Deodar of Destruction

Asking Price: $380,000

IrvineRenterPurchase Price: $515,000

Purchase Date: 10/12/2006

Address: 23 Deodar, Irvine, CA 92604

Beds: 2

Baths: 2

Sq. Ft.: 1,000

Lot Sq. Ft.: 2,800

Year Built: 1976

Knife Catcher Award

Stories: 1

Type: Condominium

County: Orange

Neighborhood: El Camino Real

$/Sq. Ft.: $380

MLS#: S485757

Status: Active on market

On Redfin: 40 days

From Redfin, “Single story home in a corner lot overlooking a huge greenbelt. Beautifully remodeled throughout. This is an as is short sale.”

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This short sale price will probably not be approved by the lender as it is too far outside of their loss limitation guidelines. It is probably priced this low to entice bids in order to give the bank an idea of where the market will be after they take the property back in foreclosure. The bank will lose money, but they will follow their guidelines for loss mitigation which will not permit a 30% haircut after a little over 7 months.

In my opinion the real story here is probably in the sale history:

Sales History

Date Price

10/12/2006 $515,000

10/27/2005 $465,000

08/01/2000 $218,000

It appears to me the buyer on 10/12/2006 was a straw buyer bailing out the 10/27/2005 buyer. The $515,000 sales price, after a 6% commission, would net this seller $20,000 — enough for a payment to a straw buyer and/or the person who arranged the sale. This is pure speculation on my part, and the previous seller may simply have gotten lucky, but when you see a short sale after 7 months, it is probably a first-payment default fraud. This may be a flip gone flop, or it may be fraud, either way this never should have transacted at a price over $500,000, and its next transaction (after the bank buys it at a foreclosure auction) will likely be less than the 2005 price.

The sellers who will really be displeased by this whole mess are the neighbors. The above sale won’t feed their fantasy price, but then again, they probably will ignore its significance as an aberration, drink some kool aid, and deepen their denial.

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13 DEODAR

Irvine, CA 92604

Price: $565,000

Beds: 3

Baths: 2

Sq. Ft.: 1,178

Lot Sq. Ft.: 3,035

Year Built: 1976

Stories: 1

Type: Condominium

County: Orange

Neighborhood: El Camino Real

$/Sq. Ft.: $480

MLS#: P579755

Status: Active on market

On Redfin: 7 days

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19 DEODAR

Irvine, CA 92604

Price: $585,000

Beds: 3

Baths: 1.5

Sq. Ft.: 1,517

Lot Sq. Ft.: 2,112

Year Built: 1976

Stories: 2

Type: Condominium

County: Orange

Neighborhood: Orangetree

$/Sq. Ft.: $386

MLS#: P572471

Status: Active on market

On Redfin: 49 days

The Reservoir of Schadenfreude

Why do we get so much pleasure from failed flips? I can think of no other human endeavor which has engendered so much pleasure in the misfortune of others. In my opinion, the outpouring of schadenfreude we are seeing as the housing bubble deflates is a mixture of Greek tragedy and bad karma. In short, bubble participants should have seen it coming, and they are getting what they deserve.

Schadenfreude is not a spiritually uplifting response. Most religious traditions would counsel us against it. In Buddhist teaching, people are taught to cultivate feelings of compassion for the misfortune of others — feeling empathy and sadness for the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune when they impact another. The near enemy of compassion is pity: it masquerades as compassion, but it has an element of separateness which detracts from the sense of Oneness with all things. Joy is good: Sypathetic joy, the joy in the happiness of another, is another pillar of a spiritual existence. However, joy in the misfortune of another — schadenfreude — is not a skillful behavior leading to happiness. Even knowing that, many of us feel this joy anyway. Why is that?

BuddhaI recognized financing terms were creating artificially high prices early on. By 2004, I was telling people I knew this was a problem which would cause a market crash. I can’t tell you how many people looked at me like I was crazy. “Real estate always goes up,” I was told. “The government would never allow prices to crash,” I was told. “If you don’t buy now you will be priced out forever,” I was told. You know the intoxicated language of those who imbibed the kool aid. If these statements had been offered in a defensive manner of someone who is being made to realize they made a serious mistake, I could have felt sympathy for them. I would have been able to disarm their defensiveness and helped them see the light. However, what I generally got was a smug assuredness of someone who truly believed they were right and I was wrong; not just was I wrong, I was a stupid, cowardly fool who did not have the brains or the courage to take the free money being given out.

didright_large.jpgDuring the bubble rally, those of us who chose not to participate were labeled as “bitter renters.” We were labeled as envious of the good fortune of homeowners as their property values rose, as they took on insane amounts of debt, and as they learned to finance a lifestyle well beyond their means. This was undoubtedly true for some, but in my opinion, this is not the primary reason so many derive so much pleasure from the misfortune of those now suffering from declining property values.

These same people who chided us for being envious actually wanted us to be envious: they wanted us to know they were the winners in our competitive society; they wanted us to view them as superior. This need to feel superior is undoubtedly a manifestation of Southern California’s Cultural Pathology, but it more than that. This act of putting themselves above us created a separation which prevented us from feeling sympathetic joy for their good fortune, and it will prevent us from feeling compassion for them when they fall.

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In our collective unconscious which manifests in our dreams and our mythology, water is often symbolic of our emotions or our emotional state. Have you noticed people are often categorized as deep or shallow? If you are in debt you often feel “underwater,” etc.

Anger is much like water: if not given an outlet, it will fill a reservoir until it reaches a breaking point and is expressed in a flood of emotional rage. Each encounter with a pathologic, kool-aid drinking housing bull over the last few years has added to this reservoir, and reveling in failed flips is an outlet for this pool of toxic emotional waste.

Waterdrop

There is an element of tragedy in every disaster, but financial bubbles are some of the most interesting because they are completely man made. They are created by the individual decisions of buyers who are motivated by greed, foolish pride, and a false sense of security. Each of these people should have known better. Many of them were warned of their impending doom and chose to go down the path to the Dark Side.

Darth VaderNewton’s Third Law states, “For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.” The Law of Karma states, “For every event that occurs, there will follow another event whose existence was caused by the first, and this second event will be pleasant or unpleasant according as its cause was skillful or unskillful.” Do you believe the behavior of buyers over the last 4 years has been skillful?

Whether it is Newton’s Third Law, Karma, or a Calvinist form of retributive justice, as this bubble deflates, all the participants in this bubble are about to experience a great deal of hardship. Like many of you, I will enjoy their suffering until my reservoir of schadenfreude is emptied. For the sake of my own personal spiritual well being, I hope this happens soon so I can get back to feeling compassion for my fellow man.

Jungle Love

We are the Irvine Housing Blog. I know we have all been enjoying the failed flips and ridiculous asking prices, but there is much more to see in our housing market. I came across this property in my perusing the market, and I thought you might find it interesting.

As you may have noticed, music and video tends to pop into my head while writing these posts…

Jungle love its drivin me mad

Its makin me crazy

Steve Miller – Jungle Love

Fixer Upper

Price: $659,900

14871 LARKSPUR CIR

Irvine, CA 92604

Beds: 4

Baths: 2

Sq. Ft.: 1,400

Lot Sq. Ft.: 5,500

Year Built: 1971

Stories: 1

Type: Single Family Residence

County: Orange

Neighborhood: El Camino Real

$/Sq. Ft.: $471

MLS#: S484245

Status: Active on market

On Redfin: 49 days

Fixer-upper

“SECLUDED, very PRIVATE location at end of cul-de-sac on single-loaded street. New carpet. One bedroom being used as den. Needs some TLC, but great deal with no HOA and no Mello-Roos. Family room was an add-on”

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  • I would start with a weed whacker.
  • I suspect it hasn’t been painted recently.
  • Secluded? Yep. Private? Yep. Jungle? Yep.
  • No HOA. No kidding!
  • Is that the house or a shed?

What is your reaction?

Irvine's Windwood

Irvine is full of neighborhoods both big and small. One of the relatively unknown small neighborhoods of Irvine is Windwood.

Windwood Map

The neighborhood of Windwood is bounded by Culver Drive, Irvine Center Drive, Harvard Avenue and the railroad tracks. It is really a transitional neighborhood buffering what was the Tustin air base from the residential core of Irvine. It is too small to have a wide variety or products, and its proximity to the railroad tracks and the large Culver Plaza commercial center made it an ideal location for high-density condos and apartments.

Windwood Apartments

One of the apartment complexes is Windwood Glen. This complex has 1, 2 and 3 bedroom flats. There are no garages or in-unit laundry facilities.

Windwood Park 1

Another complex is Windwood Knoll. This complex has 1, 2 and 3 bedroom flats and townhomes larger than Windwood Glen. There are no garages or in-unit laundry facilities.

Windwood Townhomes

An ownership community called Windwood Townhomes.

Windwood House 1

There is also a neighborhood of single-family detached condos.

Windwood House 2

This one is attractive and well kept.

Windwood Park 2

The park facilities are very good. There were plenty of children at the park, probably due to its proximity to the apartment complexes.

Windwood Park 3

Windwood even has its own tennis center.

Windwood Park 4

There is one of those multi-stop exercise pathways weaving through the community.

Windwood Park 5

The real hidden gem in Windwood is Flagstone Park. It is a large green, open space behind the housing against the railroad tracks.

Windwood Park 6

As you can see, you can have a large open lawn all to yourself.

Windwood Park 7

There is also a bike trail along the railroad tracks.

Windwood Park 8

The walking trail inside the community is wide and winding.

Windwood Street

There is an unusually sharp turn in the main collector street, Deerfield Drive. Sometimes it is sharper than drivers realize. The planners of Irvine have made mistakes.

Windwood Culver Plaza 1

One of the best features of Windwood is Culver Plaza.

Windwood Culver Plaza 2

The newly renovated food court has a selection of fast food outlets and a coffee shop (the recipe for a successful urban plaza).

Windwood Culver Plaza 3

The landscaping separates the eating area from the parking lot.

Windwood Culver Plaza 4

There is a definite Asian influence at this plaza with several of the business names reflecting a tie to the orient.

Windwood Culver Plaza 5

The Sam Woo Restaurant.

Windwood Sign 2

Windwood will probably not attain the notoriety of other neighborhoods in Irvine, but it has something unique to offer its residents. The preponderance of transitional housing will mean few people will identify with the community and consider it their “home,” but its vibrant commercial center and well-maintained facilities make for a comfortable existence.

Irvine’s Windwood: A great place to live.

Insulting Asking Prices

When buyers look for properties, realtors often try to intimidate them into making higher offering prices in order to avoid an “insulting offer.” How exactly making an offer on a property is insulting is beyond me, but the ruse seems to work, so realtors use it. However, isn’t the opposite also true? Isn’t it possible for an asking price to be so high, so ridiculous that it insults the intelligence of every buyer in the marketplace? I think so.

It was suggested in the comments on a previous post that perhaps our series on WTF pricing could shame sellers into setting reasonable asking prices. When an asking price is beyond ridiculous, there should be a sense of shame for the insult to potential buyers everywhere. There is a lack of respect in a WTF price: A lack which feeds the beast of schadenfreude currently dining on flips profiled by our blog. Just as realtors hope the fear of insult will cause the buyer to raise their offer, maybe the fear of insult will make a seller pause before listing an embarrassing asking price.

Today’s WTF award: Location, location, location.

Banyon Tree Map

Perfectly positioned to maximize road noise between the 405 Freeway and Michelson Drive is the small, old 3 bedroom offering for a mere $900,000:

Banyon Tree Front Banyon Tree Kitchen

Asking Price: $900,000

Purchase Price: $460,000

Purchase Date: 12/5/2002

Address: 13 Banyan Tree, Irvine, CA 92612

Beds: 3

Baths: 2

Sq. Ft.: 1,714

Lot Sq. Ft.: 6,500

Year Built: 1973

Stories: 1

Type: Single Family Residence

County: Orange

Neighborhood: University ParkWTF

$/Sq. Ft.: $525

MLS#: P566551

Status: Active on market

On Redfin: 80 days

From Redfin, “BEAUTIFUL HOME!!! EXCELLENT SCHOOLS!!! Large backyard with built in fire pit. Real distressed maple wood floors in kitchen and living room. New copper plumbing throughout. New gas range, kitchen sink and dishwasher.”

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So is this really a WTF price? The asking price per square foot of $525 is the one of two properties in all of University Park over $500 — even including the small stuff which warrants a high per SF price. The other property, 46 Sequoia Tree Lane, has been on the market for 305 days. Based on a cost per square foot metric, this price is way, way too high.

Let’s see what $900,000 will buy in University Park today:

26 Tahoe Front26 Tahoe Kitchen

26 TAHOE

Irvine, CA 92612

Price: $879,900

Beds: 4

Baths: 2.5

Sq. Ft.: 2,778

Lot Sq. Ft.: 2,880

Year Built: 1976

Stories: 2

Type: Condominium

View: Park or Green Belt, Trees/Woods

County: Orange

Neighborhood: University Park

$/Sq. Ft.: $317

MLS#: S474582

Status: Active on market

On Redfin: 115 days

This unit has an additional bedroom, 1000 SF of additional living space, and a beautiful kitchen for $20,000 less.

Or how about this one:

53 Mann Front 53 Mann Kitchen

53 MANN ST

Irvine, CA 92612

Price: $849,000

Beds: 5

Baths: 2.5

Sq. Ft.: 2,291

Lot Sq. Ft.: 5,060

Year Built: 1965

Stories: 2

Type: Single Family Residence

County: Orange

Neighborhood: University Park

$/Sq. Ft.: $371

MLS#: P568091

Status: Active on market

On Redfin: 71 days

This one has two additional bedrooms, 500 SF of additional living space, and an upgraded kitchen for $50,000 less.

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WTFFor being a greedy seller who needs to experience the shame for insulting the intelligence of buyers everywhere, the seller at 13 Banyan Tree wins our WTF award!