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Lowest Priced 3/2s in Irvine

Just so you know where the leading edge of the market is…

Briarwood Kitchen

Price: $425,000IrvineRenter

177 Briarwood, Irvine, CA 92604

Beds: 3

Baths: 2

Sq. Ft.: 1,150

$/Sq. Ft.: $370

Lot Size: –

Type: Condominium

Style: Other

Year Built: 1978

Stories: One Level

Area: Woodbridge

County: Orange

MLS#: S486749

Status: Active

On Redfin: 139 days

Unsold in 90+ days

From Redfin, “* * FANTASTIC BUY * * 3 BR 2 BA single level with HUGE backyard, come see the rose garden. Great Location. Everything has been upgraded, from the neutral tiled floors to the granite counters, kitchen cabinets & appliances. 3 Large bedrooms & 2 upgraded bathrooms also with granite & newer cabinets . Newer mirror closets with organizer. It is very lite and brite and definately a 10++ Newer water heater. Walk to all the fantastic amenities, pool, spa, park, tennis, basket & volleyball, schools & shopping.”

HUGE backyard. It is a freakin’ patio! Give me a break.

A 10++? Maybe on a scale from 1 to 100.

” lite and brite and definately” Three misspellings in 5 words, congratulations. I hope she is thankful for the word “and.”

How can realtors say stupid things like this?

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Oval FrontOval Kitchen

Price: $429,000IrvineRenter

133 Oval RD #2, Irvine, CA 92604

Beds: 3

Baths: 2

Sq. Ft.: 1,110

$/Sq. Ft.: $386

Lot Size: –

Type: Condominium

Style: Other

Year Built: 1972

Stories: Two Levels

Area: El Camino Real

County: Orange

MLS#: S495498

Status: Active

On Redfin: 78 days

From Redfin, “BEST PRICED & MOST REMODELLED UNIT ON THE MARKET. BRAZILIAN CHERRY WOOD FLOORS, RECESSED LIGHTING, REFURBISHED CABINETS, NEW APPLIANCES, MAYTAG STOVE, SCRAPED CEILINGS, NEW PAINT, BRAND NEW GORGEOUS DECORATIVE BATHROOM HAS TILES/BORDER ON WALLS & GRANITE SINK. SURROUND SYSTEM IN LIVING ROOM, MASTER WITH WALK IN CLOSET & CLOSET ORGANIZERS. SPACIOUS LAUNDRY ROOM. EXTRA STORAGE OUTSIDE. BEAUTIFUL SLATE FLOORS IN LARGE BACK PATIO. OPEN FLOORPLAN. SEE THE VIRTUAL TOUR!! PRICE REDUCED”

WHY THE ALL CAPS? I find all caps to be very hard on my eyes. It is painful to read that description.

Are any of you impressed by Brazilian Cherry Wood floors? Sounds rare and exotic, doesn’t it?

Irvine Sales Trends – 1998-2007

We did our first post on Irvine Sales Trends many months ago. Today’s post includes the 2007 numbers through August. Although the charts are an improvement from the past, I still have a lot to learn from twist. Keep in mind that the data used to generate these charts comes from MLS.

We’ll start with a look at # of sales by month from 1998-2007:

The 3 Month and 12 Month Moving Averages help indicate the trend. Next, we’ll compare the data by year. I’ve create separate charts for 1998-2002 and 2003-2007 because it is a little messy with 10 data sets.

It looks like although SFR sales are about the same in 2007 when compared to 2006, Condo sales are definitely slower in 2007.

Now only if I had the median sales price data for Irvine for the last 9 years. 🙂

UPDATE: Here is the data used to generate the charts above: Irvine Sales Trends.xls

David Lereah- Change of Heart?

May 2007 saw the reasonably-well publicized departure of David Lereah as “Chief Economist” of the National Association of Realtors. To understate the point, Mr. Lereah has been the object of plenty of attention in the housing blog community. Most of the attention was negative, and resulted from the frustration of repeatedly seeing and hearing him quoted in the mainstream media as something of an impartial expert regarding the condition of the housing market. Perhaps not surprisingly, Mr. Lereah tended toward the positive in his interpretation of housing sales data and future predictions, even when signs of weakness began to appear in the market. This must-see graph captures some of his better quotes, and when he offered them.

For those that didn’t explore the first link, Mr. Lereah published a book in early 2005 entitled “Are you missing the Real Estate Boom? Why home values and other real estate investments will climb through the end of the decade- and how you can profit from them.”

In 2006, this book was retitled “Why the Real Estate Boom will not bust- and how you can profit from it. How to build wealth in today’s expanding real eastate market.”

It is therefore interesting and amusing to see Mr. Lereah change the spin on his way out the door, and begin to apply some revisionist history. In this interview with Bob Brinker from early May, he even goes so far as to chastise the “speculators who strayed from fundamentals…and got us in trouble.”

David Lereah Interview

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If you want to skip ahead, his comments regarding Southern California arrive just after the 13 minute mark. Here are the highlights:

“L.A., San Diego, they are all out of whack right now. Prices got too high for the median household…there’s going to be a long period here, of recovery. Homesellers have been stubborn, they haven’t been reducing their prices as fast as their Northeast counterparts. Home sales are way down right now, and it will take price decreases- sellers lowering their prices- to bring buyers back to the marketplace. I suspect we’re not going to see any type of recovery there until at least 2008.”

While these decidedly negative comments may not sound particularly surprising to many of us, they are coming from the most prominent market cheerleader of the past several years, bar-none. The ‘soft landing’ holdouts may find this particularly sobering (and they should).

Despite this apparent dose of rationality, David still makes some bizarre remarks that are worth listening for:

  1. If speculators wouldn’t have come in to Vegas…
  2. Commissions are Commissions
  3. The baseball team the could save D.C. real estate
  4. Fingers and toes crossed, X2

Bob didn’t exactly give him a tough interview, but having David on the hook for more than a glib, obfuscated single quote was worth it to me.

It will be interesting to see how David’s heir apparent, Lawrence Yun, does carrying the torch as the market continues to correct, unwind, fall apart, or whatever you want to call it. Donning the skirt and waving the pom poms will require even more gumption in the months ahead.

Jungle Love

We are the Irvine Housing Blog. I know we have all been enjoying the failed flips and ridiculous asking prices, but there is much more to see in our housing market. I came across this property in my perusing the market, and I thought you might find it interesting.

As you may have noticed, music and video tends to pop into my head while writing these posts…

Jungle love its drivin me mad

Its makin me crazy

Steve Miller – Jungle Love

Fixer Upper

Price: $659,900

14871 LARKSPUR CIR

Irvine, CA 92604

Beds: 4

Baths: 2

Sq. Ft.: 1,400

Lot Sq. Ft.: 5,500

Year Built: 1971

Stories: 1

Type: Single Family Residence

County: Orange

Neighborhood: El Camino Real

$/Sq. Ft.: $471

MLS#: S484245

Status: Active on market

On Redfin: 49 days

Fixer-upper

“SECLUDED, very PRIVATE location at end of cul-de-sac on single-loaded street. New carpet. One bedroom being used as den. Needs some TLC, but great deal with no HOA and no Mello-Roos. Family room was an add-on”

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  • I would start with a weed whacker.
  • I suspect it hasn’t been painted recently.
  • Secluded? Yep. Private? Yep. Jungle? Yep.
  • No HOA. No kidding!
  • Is that the house or a shed?

What is your reaction?

The Supply Side – Orchard Hills

There has been plenty of discussion on the issue of the fundamentals of why housing prices in Orange County are indeed, not rational. One of the most common metrics cited by those with or without a basic economics background is the rent versus buy ‘price’ (monthly payment). These prices are the net output of a large number of variables, including (very importantly) what amount can be mortgaged, as IrvineRenter has explained in previous posts. I would like to take an opportunity to focus on the supply side of the equation, to help frame the discussions. Some of this is for statistical consideration, and some is simply to discuss the housing product and this blog community’s view of the current and future marketplace offerings.

One of the commonly-recited phrases heard in defense of high housing prices, especially in Orange County, is “they aren’t making any more land.” There are a number of technical arguments to refute the idea that (even if true) this justifies high levels of appreciation, which is not the point of this post. While Irvine is extremely desirable, it is far from built out, and it appears to this blogger that there is significant rental and new home inventory available and coming available even as sales continue their sluggish pace.

One area of particular interest is Orchard Hills in Irvine. As has been discussed on the forums, this area has attracted plenty of interest for those hoping for something less remote than Portola Springs and more scenic than Woodbury or the Villages of Columbus. Any hopes for something reasonably affordable in a nice location have been dashed by the recent market survey postcard showing prices starting at $1.25 million and going up from there. It would appear that The Irvine Company is attempting to take the Turtle Rock experience and move things even further upmarket.

Fewer than 4,400 homes are planned – reduced from the 5,903 in the existing General Plan for the city of Irvine, and dramatically fewer than the 11,800 units in Irvine’s original General Plan. This will allow for 3 units per acre – fewer homes per acre than Irvine’s original hillside village, Turtle Rock.

While these lower densities sound desirable, this is obviously coming at a price.

The area is large, and I have a preview of construction that has begun at the southwest corner near Jamboree and the 261. Some pictures from Sunday walks show the state of progress.

Retail overview

The new retail center, scheduled to open this summer.

Retail detail

Closeup of the Orchard Hills brickwork style at the retail center. This same rustic-looking brick is seen on the grand entrance walls in the residential areas.

Culver and Settlers

Culver and Settlers, from the hill, looking west.

Gated Entrance

Settler’s multiple lanes of gated entrance off of Culver, with the Irvine/Costa Mesa skyline in the distance.

Settlers trees

Trees ready for planting along Settlers, looking east

Apartments 1

IAC apartments on Whispering Trail, looking west from near the retail center

Apartments 2

View of the apartments looking east, near the 261 toll road, with the privacy wall in progess for the homes up the hill. There is approximately 30 feet of elevation change down to the street level of the apartments.

Is the market ready for Orchard Hills?

Frankly, I’m a bit skeptical that more premium apartments and premium homes are what this market is looking for right now, and I foresee a bit of a miscalculation (or at least mis-timing) on the part of The Irvine Company. But TIC is well known for savvy market research and planning, so it will be interesting to watch unfold.

Regarding the apartments, we know that certain specific apartments at Woodbury Lane have yet to see their first rental, despite being available for over 10 months. If one checks the inventory at the newly-opened Portola Place, unit after unit has multiple available “now,” status which indicates plenty of supply. I don’t yet know the exact number of units they are building at Orchard Hills, but to my eye the number appears large compared to nearby communities such as Estancia, Anacapa, and Somerset.

Regarding the homes, we keep hearing reports about how the upper end of Orange County’s housing market is holding up well, perhaps because the folks with all the millions are not subprime borrowers. But the housing food chain cannot be deprived of its plankton forever without impacting the big tuna. Given the challenges the homebuilders are having at the Villages of Columbus and Portola Springs, the continuing trend of increasing inventory and decreasing sales in the resale market could make for a rocky ride ahead.