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Groovy Little Hippie Pad — ZZ Top

I have profiled today’s featured property before, but the price is so outrageous, the decor so over-the-top, that it warrants another look.

337 Tall Oak Kitchen

Original Asking Price: $1,059,000

New Asking Price: $835,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $208,750

Downpayment Needed: $167,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $6,958

Purchase Price: $479,000

Purchase Date: 6/27/2003

Address: 337 Tall Oak, Irvine, CA 92603

Beds: 2
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,800
$/Sq. Ft.: $464
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Spanish
Year Built: 2003
Stories: 3+ Levels
Floor: 1
View: Canyon, City Lights, City, Hills, Mountain, Panoramic, Valley, Has View
Area: Quail Hill
County: Orange
MLS#: S544203
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 2 days

This superbly appointed single detached home was customized by a senior
exec. w/ the homebuilder. Every detail was considered w/the goal of
making this home not just a notch above the rest, but THE BEST. An
entertainer’s delight, this designer-inspired home has commanding 270
degree views from the Spectrum to L.A., and an innovative flr plan w/2
bedrm stes (one main floor master + upstairs master)w/dual walk-in
clsts+computer office fully wired + a separate room/studio w/own
private gated entryway. Every bldr & seller upgrade imaginable,
incl. custom distressed wood flring, surround sound, upgraded indoor
& outdoor liting, a 2nd fl. deck w/custom blt-in furniture,
stainless prof. Viking BBQ, fully mature garden w/fruit trees, wine
vines, rose garden, outdoor liting–the largest in the Ivy Wreath–spa,
fountain, stainless heater & fire ring, lites & custom outdoor
furniture & music! This property is unique, edgy, urban–feels like
a Manhattan or San Francisco abode w/CA attitude!

“customized by a senior
exec. w/ the homebuilder.” You mean someone who should know better…

Feels like
a Manhattan or San Francisco abode — except that this is Irvine!

337 Tall Oak Bar 337 Tall Oak Bar 2

The place looks like a Bordello to me. Don’t the pictures above look like they need some hookers and a piano man?

337 Tall Oak Bedroom 1 337 Tall Oak Bedroom 2

The master bedroom has inviting double doors and plenty of vanity mirrors so you can watch yourself doing whatever…

337 Tall Oak Bedroom 3 337 Tall Oak Bar 3

If you prefer a red bedroom in the “red light district,” it has one of those too. Don’t you love the chairs? Is that Dogs Playing Poker in the background? Perhaps not…

First, let’s get to the price. There is no way this is worth $835,000, forget the $1,059,000 he was asking last November. There is an identical floorplan (not so gaudy I hope) at 143 Tall Oak asking $550,000. That comparable is going to make financing this Groovy Little Hippie Pad next to impossible. Basically, someone will need to come up with about $400,000 cash to close the deal. Can anyone possibly think this property warrants a $285,000 premium due to the dubious tastes of its owner? You could buy 143 Tall Oak and spend $285,000 making your own brothel if you wanted. You could pay for some big-time designers and top-of-the-line everything and still not spend the premium. The last time I profiled this property, I challenged everyone to come up with a rationale for the price. I still can’t come up with one.

At least this guy was a conservative borrower. He only owes between $400,000 and $450,000 depending on whether or not he tapped his HELOC. If this property sells for its ridiculous asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the owner stands to make $305,900. The $225,000 he backed off of his initial asking price must feel like a huge discount to him. The recession is hurting everyone, I guess.

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I’m gonna find me a groovy little hippie pad.
I’m gonna find me a groovy little hippie pad.
I work a hundred grand scam from a border town.
Well, I’ll be feeling glad.

I’m gonna find me a blonde-haired mama,
In a jeep with a german shepherd by her side.
I’m gonna find me a blonde-haired mama,
With boots and a fourty-four on her side.
And if I ain’t too hjigh or used up,
I’ll have her take me for a groovy little hippie ride.

I’m gonna fix brown rice every day,
And drink down a bottle of midnight red.
I’m gonna fix brown rice every day,
And drink down a bottle of midnight red.
That’s all I need to get groovy,
That’s what all the little hippie said.

Groovy Little Hippie Pad — ZZ Top

Affordability Mortgage Products Make Prices Unaffordable

I Want It All — Queen

We all want affordable housing. There are numerous government programs designed to provide low-cost rental and ownership properties to people in all walks of life. Lenders, builders, realtors and buyers all benefit from affordable housing because affordability means an increase in transaction volumes and more money into the pockets of those dependant on the real estate market. The difficult problem with affordable housing is how to provide it without making it unaffordable. Finance is not the answer.

Most of those who worked in the mortgage business really believed the “financial innovation” meme. I have contended that the entire idea is a fallacy. At its core, the belief among financiers is that affordability products reach more customers and permit home ownership for a larger number of people. The statistics during the Great Housing Bubble seem to warrant this enthusiasm.

Home Ownership Rates from 1984-2005

Unfortunately, increasing the home ownership rate also dramatically
increased prices and created an unsustainable bubble in both. Why is
that? As with all macroeconomic concepts, it emerges from the
microeconomic circumstances of individual borrowers and buyers. If you
look back to the lending practices which endured the crash of the last
housing bubble in the late 80s, you see that the financing arena was
dominated by 30-year conventionally amortizing loans with 20%
downpayments and conservative debt-to-income ratios. This is the only
loan program that has relatively low default rates even if prices
decline. So what happens when a new “affordability” product is introduced into this stable system?

Let’s look at an example. Assume our would-be buyer makes $100,000 a
year and could qualify for a $300,000 loan using conventional
financing. He has save $100,000 for a downpayment and costs. He is
looking to buy a $375,000 home. In our stable system, he would find a
home relative to his income. If he is making the median income, then he
would be able to afford a median priced home. Now let’s say that
lenders “innovate” and start offering interest-only loans with a
10-year fixed term followed by an interest rate reset and a recast to a
fully amortized loan on the remaining 20-year schedule (sound
familiar?) Our buyer is conservative and does not want to purchase on
these risky terms and take the risk on future interest rates or the
need to refinance later because he may not be able to afford the higher
payment in 10 years. However, other potential buyers will ignore
these risks and embrace the new financial innovation because it allows
them to buy a house they previously could not afford. The same payment
on an interest-only schedule now finances 15% more money, so other
potential buyers in the marketplace who are making $100,000 can now
finance around $345,000 instead of $300,000. When our conservative
buyer goes out in the open market to bid on properties, he now finds
himself being consistently outbid on properties. At this point, he has
a choice to make: either embrace the new financial innovation and bid
15% higher for the same property, accept a lower quality property, or
not buy a home. The affordability product did not make houses more
affordable, it made them less so.

Amortization Value Table

Our stable system without affordability products saw annual appreciation of around 4% because this is how much incomes and rents were rising (this was true for most national markets outside of California,)
and it reflects the amount of increased borrowing power available to
homebuyers each year. With appreciation only running at 4%, market
participants do not get excited about making millions in real estate,
nor are they worried about buying today because they may get priced out
tomorrow. Affordability products change all that. With the introduction of interest-only borrowing to the system, prices can very quickly appreciate 15% as the financing system seeks a new equilibrium dominated by the new affordability product. This sudden and dramatic rise in appreciation can be the precipitating factor that ignites a housing price bubble. Once people start drinking the appreciation kool aid, they begin to stretch their debt to income ratios to buy properties with the belief that the extra investment will be recouped by rising home values. Plus the fear of being priced out compels people to buy for fear of not being able to later. The value of real estate detaches from its fundamental value, and the perception of value is driven by appreciation alone.

Behavioral Finance Theory

The bubble of the late 80s became dominated by interest only products, and buyers began using DTIs well in excess of the normal 28% limit. However, that bubble rally was of much shorter duration and of much lower volume toward the peak, so the majority of owners still had conventional financing. Mortgage equity withdrawal was much less common, so not as many households were overextended. The result was a period of moderate foreclosure activity and slowly declining prices until affordability returned based on conventional financing products.

Debt-To-Income Ratio 1986-2006

What really sets the Great Housing Bubble apart was the “innovation” which took off in late 2003: the Option ARM. As you can see in the table above, the Option ARM, or negative amortization loan, allowed borrowers to finance twice amount a conventional mortgage would provide. Hence, prices were bid up to twice the price level sustainable with conventional mortgage financing — a price level to which the market is in the process of returning.

In short, affordability products did not make prices more affordable, they inflated a massive housing bubble.

This fact is important because if the truth of affordability products is not recognized for what it is — a series of unstable loan programs that inflate house prices — these products may return to ravage our housing market again. Affordability products do not help buyers get into homes, they prevent buyers from getting into homes under terms which are sustainable. Temporary home ownership is renting. Affordability products simply allow people to rent from a lender. Perhaps some may sustain home ownership, but unless they were one of the first to embrace affordability products, and unless they refinanced later into a conventional mortgage, they will ultimately lose their illusion of home ownership and go back to renting from a landlord rather than the lender. What good came from all of that?

Will lenders learn the right lessons from The Great Housing Bubble? I doubt it…

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Adventure seeker on an empty street
Just an alley creeper light on his feet
A young fighter screaming with no time for doubt
With the pain and anger cant see a way out
It aint much Im asking I heard him say
Gotta find me a future move out of my way
I want it all I want it all I want it all and I want it now
I want it all I want it all I want it all and I want it now

Listen all you people come gather round
I gotta get me a game plan gotta shake you to the ground
Just give me what I know is mine
People do you hear me just give me the sign
It aint much Im asking if you want the truth
Heres to the future for the dreams of youth
I want it all (give it all) I want it all I want it all and I want
It now
I want it all (yes I want it all) I want it all (hey)
I want it all and I want it now

Im a man with a one track mind
So much to do in one life time (people do you hear me)
Not a man for compromise and wheres and whys and living
Lies
So Im living it all (yes Im living it all)
And Im giving it all (and Im giving it all)

Yeah yeah
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
I want it all all all all

It aint much Im asking if you want the truth
Heres to the future
Hear the cry of youth (hear the cry hear the cry of youth)
I want it all I want it all I want it all and I want it now
I want it all (yeah yeah yeah) I want it all I want it all and i
Want it now

I Want It All — Queen

Open Thread 8-16-2008

Detailed stats on the Irvine housing market are something we are always
interested in. The Inventory number in the sidebar comes from
ZipRealty. A chart of those numbers shows some interesting trends. We also have some great resources provided by ipoplaya and IrvineRealtor.

A new resource we just learned about are the Neighborhood Analytics that Redfin launched. Irvine charts available after the jump…

Irvine: Number of Homes for Sale

Irvine Homes: $/Sq. Ft.

Irvine Homes: $/Sq. Ft.

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Irvine Condos: $/Sq. Ft.

Irvine Condos: $/Sq. Ft.

All of these charts can be found on the Irvine page at Redfin. Another cool thing about these charts is that they are also available by neighborhood (ie Northwood, Oak Creek, etc) and by zip. Take a look and let us know if you see anything interesting.

30% Off and Falling

Free Fallin’ — Tom Petty

Do you remember the days when a relatively low-priced property would bring out the knife catchers and get bids over the ask? Those days appear to be behind us. The price on today’s featured property was dropped $100,000 at the beginning of the month, and it is still there. It is discounted 30% off its 2005 purchase price which likely represents almost 35% off the peak valuation. With another $70,000 to $90,000 off, this property would be at rental parity. Prices are still free fallling, but at least a potential bottoming figure is in sight. To be honest, I did not think we would be seeing prices like this in 2008.

415 E Yale Loop #13 Inside

Asking Price: $549,900IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $137,475

Downpayment Needed: $109,980

Monthly Equity Burn: $4,582

Purchase Price: $780,000

Purchase Date: 9/22/2005

Address: 415 E Yale Loop #13, Irvine, CA 92614

Beds: 3
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 2,150
$/Sq. Ft.: $256
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Garden Home
Year Built: 1985
Stories: 2 Levels
Floor: 1
Area: Woodbridge
County: Orange
MLS#: P645606
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 38 days

POPULAR GARDEN ESTATES HOME WITH SPACIOUS, OPEN FLOOR PLAN. STEP DOWN
LIVING ROOM WITH WOOD BEAMS&COZY BRICK FIREPLACE. LARGE KITCHEN
WITH DOUBLE OVEN, PANTRY WITH NOOK AREA. FAMILY ROOM WITH WECOND BRICK
FIREPLACE & BUILT IN BOOK SHELVES. LIGHT TEAK WOOD FLOORS.
PLANTATION SHUTTERS THROUGHOUT. NEWER LIGHT, BERBER CARPET, LARGE
MASTER SUITE WITH DUAL VANITIE, LARGE TUB&SEPARATE SHOWER.
CATHEDRAL CEILINGS. NEWER HVH DIGITAL HEATING SYSTEM. BUILT IN
CEDAR&ORGANIZERS IN CLOSETS. TROPICAL BACKYARD WITH FOUNTAIN.
ROMANTIC JACUZZI AND PALM TREES!!!

COZY BRICK FIREPLACE? Is it just me or do the words “cozy” and “brick” seem incongruous when put together?

WECOND?

ALL CAPS and three exclamation points.

Today’s owners are losing some of their own money. The property was purchased on 9/22/2005 for $780,000. There is a $624,000 Option ARM first mortgage with a 1% teaser rate, and a $78,000 HELOC. If this HELOC was used for the purchase, the downpayment was $78,000. If not, the downpayment was $156,000. It seems likely this 10% was put toward the purchase. Either way, all downpayment money is gone, and the first mortgage is significantly imperiled. If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss on the property will be $263,094. The loss to Countrywide/Bank of America will be $185,094.

I hope you have enjoyed this week at the Irvine Housing Blog. Come back next week as we
continue chronicling ‘the seventh circle of real estate hell.’ Have a great weekend.

🙂

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Shes a good girl, loves her mam a
Loves jesus and america too
Shes a good girl, crazy bout elvis
Loves horses and her boyfriend too

Its a long day living in reseda
Theres a freeway runnin through the yard
And Im a bad boy cause I dont even miss her
Im a bad boy for breakin her heart

And Im free, free fallin
Yeah Im free, free fallin

All the vampires walkin through the valley
Move west down ventura boulevard
And all the bad boys are standing in the shadows
A ll the good girls are home with broken hearts

And Im free, free fallin
Yeah Im free, free fallin
Free fallin, now Im free fallin, now im
Free fallin, now Im free fallin, now im

I wanna glide down over mulholland
I wanna write her name in the sky
Gonna free fall out into nothin
Gonna leave this world for a while

And Im free, free fallin
Yeah Im free, free fallin

Free Fallin’ — Tom Petty

Indy Crack

Crack Music — Kanye West

What were the guys over at IndyMac smokin’? I recently spoke with two developers who have looked at the IndyMac portfolio of large loans. They both said it was nearly impossible to value because it was such an eclectic mix of properties with appraisals of dubious quality. There is a great post at Appraisers Forum on the nonsense over at IndyMac. In residential home lending, IndyMac had positioned itself as the leader in Alt-A loans.

Tanta at Calculated Risk has a great discussion in her post Reflections on Alt-A. Her basic premise is that Alt-A was never a good business plan. Alt-A loans were generally stated-income and low-doc loans given to people with high FICO scores. The theory was that people who could be responsible with normal debts could do just as well with enormous debts. It isn’t working out too well, particularly for IndyMac.

One of the intriguing ideas from her post is that Subprime will return, albeit in a different form. There has been much discussion about how people who have gone through foreclosure will get back into the housing market. Subprime was originally intended to take people with poor FICO scores that had good income and savings and give them bridge financing until they could repair their FICO scores and refinance into conventional loans. This business model will probably return in a few years as there will be many people in this category. However, Alt-A is likely dead, and it will not be resurrected. Stated-Income, High CLTV, and low or no-doc loans will probably not resurface no matter how good a persons FICO score is simply because people will default on these loans not matter how responsible their past history.

So where does that leave Irvine’s housing market? Without Alt-A, people will not be able to get the loans necessary to support today’s still-inflated prices. Buyers will actually need to qualify for loans based on their real income, and they don’t make that much money. And since many previously Alt-A borrowers have defaulted and are now Subprime, and since Subprime is currently defunct, the buyer pool in Irvine has gotten much, much smaller.

Today’s featured property is a simple story of speculative greed, Alt-A financing and the aftermath of years of irresponsible lending. The buyer used 100% financing and defaulted when prices didn’t go up. IndyMac foreclosed on its first mortgage and wiped out the second. They are now trying to sell the house to recover the value of their first mortgage, and they are over market. The only mystery remaining is how much of their first mortgage they stand to lose.

2 Shelby Kitchen

Asking Price: $562,250IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $140,562

Downpayment Needed: $112,250

Monthly Equity Burn: $4,685

Purchase Price: $690,000

Purchase Date: 9/26/2006

Address: 2 Shelby, Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 3
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 1,538
$/Sq. Ft.: $366
Lot Size: 5,030

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Contemporary
Year Built: 1986
Stories: 1 Level
Area: Northwood
County: Orange
MLS#: S543642
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 2 days

lite-brite Tremendous value! Clean, light and bright. Vaulted ceilings. Recessed
lighting. Scraped ceilings. Tile floor throughout. Fireplace with
mantel in living room. Tile roof. Corner lot in quiet family
neighborhood. Close to schools, parks, shopping, freeway. Low HOA. No
Mello Roos!

Isn’t the front yard beautiful? What a value!

I think the kitchen is the 1986 original, too.

The previous owner bought this property on 9/26/2006 which was the approximate peak of Irvine’s market. He used a $552,000 first mortgage a $138,000 second and a $0 downpayment. It looks like he made payments for about a year and gave up. It went back to IndyMac on 6/25/2008. If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, IndyMac stands to lose $161,485.

IndyMac may be on crack, but at least they didn’t get Merril-Lynched…

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How we stop the black panthers?
Ronald Reagan cooked up an answer
You hear that?
What Gil Scott was hearin
When our heroes and heroines got hooked on heroin.
Crack raised the murder rate in DC and Maryland
We invested in that it’s like we got Merril-Lynched
And we been hangin from the same tree ever since
Sometimes I feel the music is the only medicine
So we cook it, cut it, measure it, bag it,sell it
The fiends cop it
Nowadays they cant tell if that’s that good shit
We ain’t sure man
Put the CD on your toungue yeah, thats pure man.

From the place where the fathers gone,
The mothers is hardly home
And the…
Gonna lock us up in a…home
How the Mexicans say we just tryin to party homes
They wanna pack us all in a box like styrofoam

Crack Music — Kanye West