Monthly Archives: August 2008

I Was Wrong, It's Worse…

Y.M.C.A. — Village People

With 100% financing available in the Great Housing Bubble, it is a wonder all the Y.M.C.As didn’t close down. If you are down and out, all you needed to do was fill out a liar loan application and move into your new house. Wait a few months, and you could open a HELOC and start spending all that free money. What could be better?

Today’s featured property is representative of stress at the high end of the market. Most of the properties I have profiled to date have been at the low end because this is where the market stress is the most acute. The big push in prices occurred because many people took out 100% financing to buy starter homes. More expensive homes were generally move-up properties, and the buyers transferred the equity from the sale of their starter home. This puts many of them in a somewhat stronger financial position, so the acute stress of the credit crunch hasn’t impacted them to the same degree. Plus, many of these borrowers used Alt-A loans which are not due to reset until 2009-2011. A great many of these borrowers have taken on huge debt loads well in excess of their incomes, and many will collapse when their resets hit. This hasn’t happened yet, but it will.

5 Villager Kitchen

Asking Price: $999,888IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $249,972

Downpayment Needed: $199,977

Monthly Equity Burn: $8,332

Purchase Price: $1,150,000

Purchase Date: 3/14/2007

Address: 5 Villager, Irvine, CA 92602

Beds: 5
Baths: 4
Sq. Ft.: 3,027
$/Sq. Ft.: $330
Lot Size:
Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Mediterranean
Year Built: 2002
Stories: 2 Levels
Area: Northpark
County: Orange
MLS#: S521208
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 196 days

Unsold in 90+ days

BEAUTIFUL 5 bedroom, 3.5 bath executive home on cul de sac in
prestigious North Park Square. Gorgeous kitchen with Granite counter
tops and full backsplash. Large center island has cook top with eating
bar that overlooks the spacious Family room with stacked stone
fireplace, custom built media center and separate custom work center
with bookshelves. Enjoy music through surround speakers located on the
interior and exterior of the home. Too many upgrades and custom
features to list. Gorgeous pool with two cascading waterfalls coupled
with a separate area with a custom fireplace makes this home perfect
for entertaining or relaxing.

How did they come up with that asking price. Is the next price reduction going to be down to $888,777? It might sell there…

Did you realize they were giving out 100% financing on $1,150,000 properties in March of 2007? No wonder the median didn’t really drop until the credit crunch hit. Today’s owners (occupants who have stopped paying rent to the bank,) used 100% financing, and now they are walking away. This isn’t as common at the high end, but it still occurs. If this property sells for its asking price, Countrywide is going to lose most of the second mortgage they provided. The total loss after a 6% commission will be $210,105. I wonder if gobbling up Countrywide is giving Bank of America indigestion.

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Several people have asked about the accuracy of my post Predictions for the Irvine Housing Market.
I have the DataQuick numbers through April of 2008, so we can take a
look. First, when I first made the chart below, I did not have accurate
numbers. The base number I used of $687,000 was incorrect.

Irvine Housing Market Prediction Chart

Using the three-month moving average of prices, the real number was
$723,750. With this new, more accurate number, we can compare the
projected drop with the real figures.

Well, it is even worse than I imagined. When I first suggested that
Irvine’s median home price might decline 12% in a single year, it was a
bold prediction. Prices had never dropped that much in Irvine — ever
— much less in a single year. Given the condition of the market, I
felt the number was conservative, but to see it actually drop more than
my prediction is remarkable. I guess the bulls should be glad, it isn’t
as bad as bad can get:

Irvine Market Decline Extreme

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Young man, there’s no need to feel down.
I said, young man, pick yourself off the ground.
I said, young man, ’cause you’re in a new town
There’s no need to be unhappy.

Young man, there’s a place you can go.
I said, young man, when you’re short on your dough.
You can stay there, and I’m sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.

It’s fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
It’s fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.

They have everything for you men to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys …

It’s fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
It’s fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.

You can get yourself clean, you can have a good meal,
You can do what about you feel …

Young man, are you listening to me?
I said, young man, what do you want to be?
I said, young man, you can make real your dreams.
But you got to know this one thing!

No man does it all by himself.
I said, young man, put your pride on the shelf,
And just go there, to the y.m.c.a.
I’m sure they can help you today.

It’s fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
It’s fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.

They have everything for you men to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys …

It’s fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
It’s fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.

Y.M.C.A. — Village People

Open Thread 8-23-2008

Simply the Best — Tina Turner

This week in the comments, we joked about new lending programs for the next real estate bubble. MalibuRenter, the gentlemen who helped with the content editing of my upcoming book, makes a living patenting financial products (among other things). The following is an idea for a new patent (tongue in cheek).

Lending during the Great Housing Bubble was too messy. There were too many loan programs. Since real estate always goes up, and since people want immediate access to this appreciation to spend it like income, a new loan product which readily provides this money is in order. The Option ARM was a major innovation. By allowing for negative amortization, people were able to add to their loan balance and effectively “cash out” their equity. The problem with this loan program is that it didn’t go far enough — people still had to make payments, and they had to get HELOCs to extract the remainder.

The new loan program I am proposing is called the “Pay You” loan, or PU for short. The PU loan has no payment of any kind. The total amount of interest each month is added to the loan balance. Further, appreciation in excess of this monthly interest is sent to the borrower each month. Rather than pay for an updated appraisal each month to determine value, an automated reappraisal system which looks at the current pricing of comps can accurately determine the current market value. Since homes now pay cash to owners each month, home ownership would be very desirable, and home prices should rise steadily far in excess of the monthly interest cost. With automated appraisals, little additional servicing costs would be required. Also, lenders would find the monthly service fees an attractive feature, so they would readily peddle the PU loan to any borrower who wanted it, and since borrowers are actually being paid to own their home, everyone would want to enroll in the program.

These loan programs would be very attractive to investors because the interest income would be booked as profits, and since the balance is growing each month, the interest income gets compounded. The main problems investors in mortgage loans have is that borrowers often pay back these loans early, and the balanced decline over time. Therefore, they do not receive the rate of return reflective of the stated interest rate. With the PU loan, investors actually get a greater return due to the compounding effect. The early payback is not a problem because even if a borrower sells a home, they will quickly buy a new one to get back on the home appreciation gravy train. The PU loans may even allow for assumability and portability so the loan doesn’t need to be closed out when a buyer wants to move up or sells. It is a panacea.

Now we just need home prices to always go up…

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I call you,when I need you my hearts on fire
You come to me, come to me, wild and wild

You come to me, give me everything I need
Give me a lifetime of promises and a world of dreams
Speak the language of love like you know what it means
And it cant be wrong, take my heart and make it strong, baby

Chorus:
Youre simply the best, better than all the rest, better than anyone, anyone
Ive ever met!
Im stuck on your heart, I hang on every word you say
Tear us apart, baby I would rather be dead

In your heart I see the start of every night and every day
In your eyes, I get lost, I gte washed away
Just as long as Im here in your arms I could be in no better place…

Simply the Best — Tina Turner

Infatuation

Infatuation — Rod Stewart

Remember during the bubble rally when everyone was in love with real estate? Turns out it was an infatuation. The fickle homeowners who sought to possess real estate at any price are now dumping their lovelorn properties en masse. Of course, it is easy to become infatuated when something or someone is making your dreams come true. All people had to do was buy a property and begin extracting and spending all the free money it provided. Now that the market has reversed, and people are saddled with crushing debts, and the property is no longer providing free money, it is easy to see why the object of their infatuation has lost its luster.

Today’s featured property is another casualty of the low end of the market. There is much less denial at the low end, and much more carnage — for now. The married woman who bought this as her sole and separate property has some of her own money in the game, so she showed more resilience than those who bought with 100% financing. You see, with any market price collapse, it starts with the weakest hands — those that paid way too much and have little incentive to hold on. When these people sell, it drives prices lower and distresses a whole new group of market participants — people like today’s owner that have some money in the game, but not very much. The people who put 5%-10% down who are currently underwater will be the next group to give up. Of course, this will distress those who put more money down or purchased even earlier. Eventually, all of those who are overextended or deeply underwater will give up and capitulate to market forces.

Asking Price: $354,720IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $88,680

Downpayment Needed: $70,944

Monthly Equity Burn: $2,956

Purchase Price: $525,000

Purchase Date: 10/11/2006

Address: 22 Claret #42, Irvine, CA 92614

Beds: 2
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 1,145
$/Sq. Ft.: $310
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Cottage, Craftsman
Year Built: 1980
Stories: 1 Level
Floor: 1
Area: Woodbridge
County: Orange
MLS#: S544801
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 1 day

New Listing (24 hours)

Chateaux Condo in desirable Village of Woodbridge. Private atrium off
kitchen, detached 2 car garage! Eat in kithcen, inside laundry. 2nd
bedroom is a den and currently being used as a 2nd bedroom.

Chateaux Condo? What kind of pretentious bull$hit is that?

The fact that the garage is detached is something to get excited about?

kithcen?

2nd
bedroom is a den? So this isn’t even a true 2 bedroom…

If this property sells for its asking price minus a 6% commission, the total loss on the property will be $191,563. The seller will be losing her $105,000 downpayment (or $55,000 if she maxed her HELOC,) and IndyMac (now us taxpayers) will be losing the rest.

I posted the chart below on Monday, but it is worth a more careful look. If you really want to understand the housing bubble psychology demonstrated by today’s losing speculator, it is encapsulated in the figure below.

Behavioral Finance Theory

The whole point of boiling down posts to laughable ideas like infatuation is to underscore the psychological aspects that inflated the bubble. There is no rational justification for paying $525,000 for this property other than you believe it will continue to appreciate in price. Collectively, the more people that believe in perpetual appreciation and act on those beliefs, the more prices will rise. This does require enabling on the part of lenders, and with the virtual elimination of standards during the bubble, there were no barriers to market entry, and no limits to how high people could bid up prices. It was incomprehensible to people in 2006 that prices could drop 50%. Surely if prices had detached from fundamentals, they couldn’t have detached that much. Well, they can, and they did.

I hope you have enjoyed this week at the Irvine Housing Blog. Come back next week as we
continue chronicling ‘the seventh circle of real estate hell.’ Have a great weekend.

🙂

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Early in the morning I cant sleep
I cant work and I cant eat
Ive been drunk all day, cant concentrate
Maybe Im making a big mistake

Caught me down like a killer shark
Its like a railroad running right through my heart
Jekyll and hyde the way I behave
Feel like Im running on an empty gauge

Oh no not again
It hurts so good
I dont understand
Infatuation
Infatuation
Infatuation
Infatuation

Infatuation — Rod Stewart

Weeping

While My Guitar Gently Weeps — The Beatles

The carnage in the real estate industry has been truly remarkable. I know many people who work in design, development and homebuilding who are out of work. Statistics have more meaning when you know the people it represents. I have had my own stresses and worries which are ongoing. Right now, I am one of the lucky ones who still has a job. The weeping in the real estate industry is a side effect of the larger problem with declining home prices. That problem has people weeping from all walks of life, and for most of them, it will get much worse before it gets any better. The crash of housing prices is a catastrophe for everyone who is overextended on their mortgages, and that is a great many people. Many are still in denial, but at some point, the denial will give way to acceptance with periodic bouts of weeping along the way.

It must be easier for those who used 100% financing to reach acceptance. They are not losing any of their own money, only their credit score. When subprime rebounds in a few years to service these people, those that saved money while they rented may become homeowners again. Today’s featured property owners are a typical profile of bubble buyers. They bought toward the end of the rally with 100% financing, and now that values have declined, they are walking away and letting someone else absorb the losses.

65 Weepingwood Kitchen

Asking Price: $419,900IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $104,975

Downpayment Needed: $83,980

Monthly Equity Burn: $3,499

Purchase Price: $546,000

Purchase Date: 10/28/2005

Address: 65 Weepingwood #97, Irvine, CA 92614

Beds: 3
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,399
$/Sq. Ft.: $300
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Traditional
Year Built: 1981
Stories: 2 Levels
Floor: 1
Area: Woodbridge
County: Orange
MLS#: P652185
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 2 days

*** SOLD FOR $546000 in 2005! 3 BED / 2.5 BATHS WITH 2 CAR ATTACHED
GARAGE!! FEATURES: Great spacious floor plan, tile flooring and
carpeting through out, cozy brick fireplace in living room, large
family kitchen with tile flooring, granite counter tops and wood
cabinets, lots of closet space, large rooms, bright and airy, ceiling
fans, too much!!

Now it is a selling point that some idiot paid bubble prices in 2005? This statement is actually quite revealing of people’s perception of value in the housing market. The reality is that prices were inflated far above fundamental values by loose credit and unsustainable financing terms. The perception is that peak bubble prices were fair value and today’s discounted properties must be undervalued; therefore, if you buy now, you will be far ahead when prices quickly rebound back to fair value. In fact, there was a recent post at the OC Register where a supposed expert claimed prices are undervalued. Realtors should be pleased when I show a house with a huge loss because that means it is really undervalued 😉

ALL CAPS. Check…

Asterisks. Check…

Multiple exclamation points. Check…

Cozy brick. Check…

too much. Yes, this is still too much money…

This house was purchased in October of 2005 which was about 9 months before the absolute peak. The buyer utilized 100% financing, but was either unwilling or unable to pull out any more. One interesting note on this particular REO: the lender only bid this property up to 85% of the first mortgage. They completely wiped out the second mortgage, and they were willing to take a 15% hit on the first mortgage at the courthouse steps if a knife catcher would have offered it. As it happened, they did take back the property, and now they are trying to get a few bucks more than they paid. If this sells for its current asking price, and if they pay a 6% commission, the owner of this mortgage (JP Morgan Chase Bank; Ownit Mortgage Asset Backed Certificate — probably some CDO somewhere,) the total loss on the loans will be $151,294.

I bet they are weeping…

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I look at you all see the love there that’s sleeping

While my guitar gently weeps

I look at the floor and I see it need sweeping

Still my guitar gently weeps

I don’t know why nobody told you

how to unfold you love

I don’t know how someone controlled you

they bought and sold you

I look at the world and I notice it’s turning

While my guitar gently weeps

With every mistake we must surely be learning

Still my guitar gently weeps

I don’t know how you were diverted

you were perverted too

I don’t know how you were inverted

no one alerted you

I look at you all see the love there that’s sleeping

While my guitar gently weeps

I look at you all

Still my guitar gently weeps

While My Guitar Gently Weeps — The Beatles

3/2 in Woodbury for $400K

Mysterious Ways – U2

The movements of financial markets are very mysterious and notoriously difficult to predict. Where will the stock market be today? Up or down? Your guess is as good as mine. Of the various types of financial markets, residential real estate markets are probably the easiest to predict because they trend for long periods of time. Of course, the difficult part is predicting when they will reverse. I thought our local real estate market would reverse in 2004, but the widespread sale of the Option ARM delayed the crash for two full years.

The top of the market is relatively easy to identify after the fact. When sales fall off a cliff, prices will soon follow. The bottom is a bit trickier. Sales volumes will pick up at the bottom, but it will also pick up in the false rallies leading to the bottom. Upticks in prices are not telling either because bear rallies have that feature as well. The relationship between price and rent is a good indicator. It predicted the last two bottoms, but if the price-to-rent (GRM) is at historic lows, we may not necessarily be at the bottom because inventories and foreclosures may be very high. In fact, I am of the opinion (and I am not alone) that we will have an overshoot of fundamentals based purely on supply and demand problems due to the REO inventory. Too many people borrowed too much money, and these owners will need to be flushed from the system before it is over.

Personally, I will not try to time the bottom tick of the market. I will buy when I can save money versus renting. In fact, I would prefer to buy before the bottom when inventories are high because I will have the widest selection of properties to chose from. If you wait until the bottom is clearly in the rear view mirror, inventories will be low, and you may not find the property you want (don’t worry, you will not be priced out forever.) The previous bottoms gave about a 3-5 year window of opportunity before prices rose to valuations that were too high relative to rents. This time, the window of opportunity may be longer. The ARM reset problem will persist into 2012, and it will take another 2 or 3 years for all the foreclosures to work their way through the system. I may buy in 2010, but I will not expect to see any appreciation before 2015. That will not matter to me because I will be saving money each month versus renting, and I don’t plan to sell any time soon.

Today’s featured property is as mysterious as the markets. It was only listed yesterday, and there are no pictures. Perhaps they will be up by the time this post airs.

Asking Price: $400,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $100,000

Downpayment Needed: $80,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $3,333

Purchase Price: $562,500

Purchase Date: 1/31/2006

Address: 52 Vintage #106, Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 3
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 1,550
$/Sq. Ft.: $258
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Mediterranean
Year Built: 2006
Stories: 3+ Levels
Floor: 1
View: Has View
Area: Woodbury
County: Orange
MLS#: S544575
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 1 day

New Listing (24 hours)

Descriptions don’t get much shorter than that.

This guy will not accomplish much listing this property as a short sale. It is very unlikely that it will get approved. However, he does destroy the neighborhood comps for everyone in Woodbury. Remember the post Financing in a Declining Market? Lenders are now looking at the lowest sale or offered for sale comparable home in a 1 mile radius. In short, everyone with a similar property just got hosed.

This guy bought at the peak paying $562,500. He used a $449,800 first mortgage, an $84,300 second mortgage and a $28,400 downpayment. Not to worry though, he refinanced through Countrywide with a $544,000 first mortgage in April 2007, and he opened a $68,000 HELOC which one would assume he maxed out (I don’t know for sure.) If he did, the total debt on the property is $612,000, and his total mortgage equity withdrawal was $77,900 including his downpayment. If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, Countrywide stands to lose $236,000.

This borrowing behavior makes me wonder about another class of distressed homeowners we have not talked much about. How many people out there banked some of their ill-gotten gains and are making payments with borrowed money? If this guy had put $80,000 in the bank, he could have made payments for quite some time. People who have pulled out hundreds of thousands of dollars can do the same. How many Ponzi-Scheme financiers are out there? How long can they hold out? One thing I am nearly certain of is that they cannot hold out longer than the bear market lasts. Each homeowner in this circumstance has a different holding period, and as the weak hands implode, they knock prices down for the remaining holdouts. Some will survive, but the majority will not. This phenomenon is also one of the reasons banks everywhere were freezing HELOCs, even for borrowers with equity. They might have improved their short-term cashflow to keep allowing Ponzi Scheme financing, but ultimately it hurts their bottom lines when these loans get wiped out in a foreclosure.

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Johnny take a walk
With your sister the moon
Let her pale light in
To fill up your room
You’ve been living underground
Eating from a can
You’ve been running away
From what you don’t understand…
Look

She’s slipping
You’re sliding down
She’ll be there
When you
hit the ground

It’s all right, it’s all right, all right
She moves in mysterious ways
It’s all right, it’s all right, all right
She moves in mysterious ways
O-o-oh

Johnny take a dive
With your sister in the rain
Let her talk about the things
You can’t explain
To touch is to heal
To hurt is to steal
If you want to kiss the sky
Better learn how to kneel
On your knees boy

Mysterious Ways – U2