Cassandra — ABBA
Pity Cassandra that no one believed you
When I first started writing for the Irvine Housing Blog in February of 2007, I wrote a series of posts culminating in Predictions for the Irvine Housing Market. I updated that post in I Was Wrong, Its Worse... When I first suggested that prices might crash, there was a certain amount of incredulity in the very idea of a dramatic price crash. In order to float the idea with a minimum of being called crazy, I wrote a post titled, What if Prices Dropped to Fundamental Values. In that post, I presented a series of projections for the Orange County median home price. I put it out there as a hypothetical because I was afraid predicting a catastrophic crash would cost me credibility with readers. Even this hypothetical was shocking to many (read the comments and you will see).
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How crazy did people think I was?
“Let’s not get too carried away. First of all we probably should not
really make economic prediction more than one year ahead. As
IrvineRenter said, this is just an “what if” analysis. It makes an
interesting game for bubble sitters but IMO we should not read too much
into it.”
“I am not agreeing that the blow off downturn will look as drastic.”
“I have been following all your posts for quite sometime. I think your price dropping theory is way too unrealistic.” I hate to tell you who said that one…
“After tweaking your model, it seems that prices would need to fall
30-35% to return to fundemental values, not 50%. Considering the
factors above, it seems likely that once prices started falling by
significant margin that the pool of sellers would start to dry up.
Only folks that absolutely were forced to sell would consider it, which
would look more like a long, slow leak than a collapse.”
“I just don’t agree it will be as bad as you think. I *hope* you’re right … but I just don’t see it.”
“If I had to guess, I’d say 15-20% overall drop in housing values over the next 2-3 years max.”
“While I agree wait for a couple of years (may be two) is a good idea, but I just can’t image the prices will gone down so much.”
“Your long-term forecast appreciation is just pure speculation.”
Sorry Cassandra I misunderstood
Now the last day is dawning
Some of us wanted but none of us would
Listen to words of warning
{book}
So how did I do with my crystal ball? Well, DataQuick just released some updated numbers, and with the help of Jon Lansner and Lee in Irvine who has been tracking DataQuick numbers, I can provide an update:
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As you can see (consistent with the theme of I Was Wrong, Its Worse...) I was too conservative in with my dire predictions. At the time, I was predicting an unprecedented drop in prices. I did feel I was being conservative despite the conventional insanity of the day. I did not believe the median could drop so quickly. Perhaps I should have stood behind my predictions in How Bad Can Bad Get?
Today’s featured property is a short sale in Woodbury. Irvine is a bit behind the rest of OC with its price drops, but with the ARM Problem still facing us, a problem 60 minutes just discussed at length, it certainly looks as if prices will continue to fall…
Income Requirement: $124,750
Downpayment Needed: $99,800
Monthly Equity Burn: $4,158
Purchase Price: $663,000
Purchase Date: 7/27/2006
Address: 66 Chantilly, Irvine, CA 92620
Beds: | 3 |
Baths: | 3 |
Sq. Ft.: | 1,275 |
$/Sq. Ft.: | $391 |
Lot Size: | – |
Property Type: | Condominium |
Style: | Contemporary |
Year Built: | 2005 |
Stories: | 2 |
Floor: | 1 |
Area: | Woodbury |
County: | Orange |
MLS#: | S557014 |
Source: | SoCalMLS |
Status: | Active |
On Redfin: | 3 days |
wow,absolutely gorgeous,plan 3 Cortile,Detached home w/3 bedrooms, 2
1/2 bathrooms,upgraded floorings,gorgeous hardwood floorings in living
room and staircase and hall way and decorative ceramic tiles in kitchen
and dining room.Spacious gourmet kitchen,window plantation
shutters,nice sized patio excellent for entertaining,Media
built-in.This property is gorgeous.And enjoy all the ammenities of
resort like living of Woodbury.
This place must be gorgeous. It is mentioned 3 times in that brief description.
ammenities?
This property was purchased on 7/27/2006 for $663,000. The owners used a $530,400 first mortgage, a $132,600 second mortgage, and a $0 downpayment. It didn’t go up in value, so now they are dumping it as a short sale.
If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss will be $193,940.
This property is being offered for 25% off its 2006 purchase price.
What is it worth?
I remember seeing one of these units for rent at $2,500 not long ago. Assuming that is market rent, this property is worth around $400,000.
{book}
Down in the street they’re all singing and shouting
Staying alive though the city is dead
Hiding their shame behind hollow laughter
While you are crying alone on your bed
Pity Cassandra that no one believed you
But then again you were lost from the start
Now we must suffer and sell our secrets
Bargain, playing smart, aching in our hearts
Sorry Cassandra I misunderstood
Now the last day is dawning
Some of us wanted but none of us would
Listen to words of warning
But on the darkest of nights
Nobody knew how to fight
And we were caught in our sleep
Sorry Cassandra I didn’t believe
You really had the power
I only saw it as dreams you would weave
Until the final hour
Cassandra — ABBA