HELOC abuse Hollywood Style

We are the Irvine Housing Blog, and during the week, I focus exclusively on Irvine properties. However, the weekends I leave open for exploration. If I am particularly inspired (and ambitious), I will do more than provide an open thread. This weekend, I was inspired.

501 S ROSSMORE Ave kitchen

Asking Price: $3,675,000

Address: 501 S Rossmore Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90020

Superstar — Toy-Box

I am a superstar with a big big house and a big big car,
I am a superstar and I don’t care who you are.
I got fortune, I got fame,
Love it when you say my name.
Love to party, I am naughty,
Prettier than everybody!
I got muscles, I’m a stud,
Jealous people kiss my butt,

On Thursday in the astute observations, someone known as “E” asked about the largest HELOC abuse case we had profiled so far. We have profiled a couple for around $1,000,000 (The Ultimate Post, Responsible Homeowners are NOT Losing Their Homes), but Irvine is not old enough or valuable enough to have truly spectacular HELOC abuse cases. In a series of emails and a long phone call, “E” told me about a property in Hollywood that makes the pretenders in Irvine look like the wannabes they really are.

The way “E” described this neighborhood, it is the home of many of the truly rich, the famous, and the “Joneses” that want to be. Many in Irvine are trying to keep up with the Joneses; the Joneses live in Hollywood, and they are trying to keep up with the rich and famous who live here. Today’s featured property belongs to the Joneses (not their real name).

The interesting part of the keeping-up-with-the-Joneses phenomenon is that the people at the top of the heap often do not care about impressing anyone or making the Joneses jealous. Many at the top are just living their lives and trying to keep a low profile. When you really are rich, you don’t care if anyone knows about it.

501 S ROSSMORE Ave kitchen

Asking Price: $3,675,000

Income Requirement: $918,750

Downpayment Needed: $735,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $30,625

Purchase Price: Approximately $150,000

Purchase Date: Early 70

Address: 501 S Rossmore Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90020

Beds: 7
Baths: 5.5
Sq. Ft.: 5,555
$/Sq. Ft.: $662
Lot Size:
Property Type: Single Family Residential
Community: Hancock Park – Wilshire
County: Los Angeles
MLS#: 09-363663
Source: TheMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 6 days

Back on market! Rare short sale in Hancock Park, accepting all offers.
Huge reduction to $3,675,000!! Property must be sold!! Harry Warner
Estate. Gorgeous Georgian Colonial. Huge corner lot of over 29,000 ft.
7 beds, 5.5 baths. Large over-sized pool, tennis court and detached
guest house. Original screening room used by Harry and many Hollywood
friends still in basement. An amazing property built for a Hollywood
legend. Please call listing agents for appointment.

Realtorspeak is alive and well in Los Angeles.

Do you like the siren song of the pretentious? “An amazing property built for a Hollywood
legend.” Wow, I wonder if it would make me cool if I lived where some Hollywood legend lived? Probably not…

So how do the Joneses really live? Well, if you are near the top
rung of the ladder, you own a house in the best neighborhood, you milk
that house for every penny it appreciates, throw opulent parties, and
try to make everyone on the next rung down the ladder jealous. It goes
something like this:

  • This property was purchased in the early 70s for around $150,000.
    My data does not go back that far, but the total assessed value is
    $346,592 which would account for the original valuation and the
    proposition 13 adjustments since it was passed.
  • I do not know what the original mortgage was, but for the sake of
    calculating MEW, lets assume it was $120,000 which is 80% of $150,000.
  • My records pick up in 1998. On 10/23/1998, there was a new first mortgage for $250,000. This point also
    marks when the property went from being owned by a couple to being
    owned by just a woman.
  • On 2/9/1999 the owner refinanced a $400,000 first mortgage.
  • On 7/2/1999 she opened a HELOC for $150,000.
  • On 3/31/2000 she opened a HELOC for $759,000.
  • On 2/16/2001 she opened a HELOC for $609,300.
  • On 3/1/2004 she opened a HELOC for $1,200,000.
  • On 10/2/2006 she refinanced with a $2,700,000 Option ARM with a 1.5% teaser rate.
  • On 10/2/2006 she opened a HELOC for $200,000.
  • On 3/12/2007 she opened a HELOC for $787,500.
  • Total property debt is $3,487,500. (which explains the current asking price).
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal is $3,367,500.

I am speechless…

When I first saw this chain of refinances, I was utterly amazed.

Getting out of my Irvine bubble has made me even more bearish about
the high end. Armageddon does not begin to describe what is going to
happen. BTW, this house will not sell for its current asking price. A
nearly identical comp at 501 S. Lucerne Ave–two blocks away–just sold for 2,050,000.

I wrote about Southern California’s Cultural Pathology over
two years ago. I did not fully grasp how pathetic and sick the culture
in much of California has become. Something about seeing this property
and a few others around the neighborhood made be realize how deeply
embeded kool aid intoxication really is here.

The more you stretched to buy a house, the more rewarded you were with appreciation and HELOC money.

Think about that; buyers have been strongly rewarded for decades for
doing something very, very stupid. The reward came though a massive
binge with Ponzi Scheme financing. Nothing in our real estate market is
real. Valuations in every neighborhood in California are being set by
buyers so pickled with kool aid that they do not even realize the
poison they have ingested.

This price crash will be epic; it really will be the great unwinding.

Californians cannot afford their homes. Too many people have
borrowed too much money, and no amount of loan modifications are going
to provide terms that will keep them in their homes. Even if they could
get modified down to managable payment levels, most will walk away
anyway. These people stretched to get the HELOC money that is not going
to be coming. Once this is realized, once homedebtors realize the ATM
machine will not be turned on, they house they found so rewarding will
suddenly be seen for the crushing financial burden it really is.

Easy-money refinances and Home Equity Lines of Credit are the great
poison. They have created a pathology that will take years to cure.
Most buyers active in today’s market do not fully grasp what the end of
a Ponzi Scheme really means. Most assume lenders will re-inflate this
bubble again soon and they will be able to go back to living their
Ponzi Scheme lives. According to the IMF: Global Credit Losses Could Top $4 Trillion. Lenders are not going to lose $4 Trillion dollars and go right back to
the practices that lost them all that money. Even the moral hazard of
our government bailouts will not encourage lenders to be that stupid
again soon.

It’s over.

The lifestyle of excess financed by dumb money is over. All that is
left is for us to watch this slow motion train wreck and document the
excesses here. We may not experience the Great Depression II, but for
those people who became accustomed to the HELOC lifestyle, it will feel
like a depression.

{book6}

I am a superstar with a big big house and a big big car,
I am a superstar and I don’t care who you are,
I am a superstar with a big big house and a big big car,
I am a superstar and I don’t care who you are.
I got fortune, I got fame,
Love it when you say my name.
Love to party, I am naughty,
Prettier than everybody!
I got muscles, I’m a stud,
Jealous people kiss my butt,
I’m so fly I’ll make you cry,
Cross my heart and hope to die.

Superstar — Toy-Box

Apricot Crush

The decline at the low end of the market is truly remarkable. Even in Irvine, there are properties 43% off the peak.

Also, check out the newest blog in town: Irvine Homes.

7215 Apricot Dr kitchen

Asking Price: $199,000

Address: 7215 Apricot Drive #7215, Irvine, CA 92618

{book6}

Crush — David Archuleta

‘Cause I’m trying and trying to walk away
But I know this crush ain’t goin’ away-ay-ay-ay-ayy
Goin’ away-ay-ay-ay-ayy

The low end in Irvine is starting to catch up to the low-end declines in other markets. There is no end in sight to this carnage. In many other markets, the low-end condos have already fallen to cashflow investor levels, and there is even overshoot in some bad areas (which some may argue isn’t overshoot). In Irvine’s market, many of these condos are just starting to reach rental parity. They will fall much further.

Our real estate market is currently being supported by knife catchers with cash; the downpayments are large by historic standards. There is a finite number of people with large cash downpayments, and this number is dwindling with each purchase and continued asset price deflation.

A healthy real estate market cannot be supported by cash buyers; there simply is not enough to them to buoy a market. Eventually, the low end of the market must stabilize and these properties must appreciate. It is only once there is appreciation at the low end will buyers have a source of additional cash to ignite the chain of move-ups necessary for a self-supporting housing market. Unless there are move-up buyers with significant equity, there can be no sustained market rally.

The low end of the market has not stabilized, and pricing would suggest it is not near stabilizing levels. First, prices must stabilize, then there must be appreciation over time, only then will there be move-up appreciation equity available to sustain the market. It is one of the many reasons that real estate markets do not form “V” bottoms but instead slowly change directions in an elongated “U” shape.

7215 Apricot Dr kitchen

Asking Price: $199,000

Income Requirement: $49,750

Downpayment Needed: $39,980

Monthly Equity Burn: $1,658

Purchase Price: $340,000

Purchase Date: 7/13/2005

Address: 7215 Apricot Drive #7215, Irvine, CA 92618

Beds: 1
Baths: 1
Sq. Ft.: 900
$/Sq. Ft.: $221
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Contemporary
Year Built: 1980
Stories: 1
Floor: 1
View: Courtyard, Greenbelt, Park or Green Belt, Treetop
County: Orange
MLS#: S563551
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 65 days

One of the lowest priced 1 bedroom 1 bath condos in Irvine. Single
level condo No Stairs, Safe, Secure and Great Private Quiet Corner
Unit. Beautiful Mantle on Fireplace in Spacious Living Room, Formal
Dining Room. Crown Moulding Throughout. Sliders to Large Balcony from
Master Bedroom and from Living Room. Kitchen Breakfast Bar overlooks
Living Room and Fireplace. Master Suite with Two(2) Sink Vanity. View
of Tree Tops and City Lights at Night. Inside Laundry Room off Kitchen.
Security Bldg with Intercom, Elevator and Underground Garage Parking.
Handicap Access. HOA Provides Water(heating),Gas, Trash, Maintenance,
Pool, Spa, Lighted Tennis, Basketball Courts, Work Out Room and Tot
Lot. There are 3 High Rise Bldg-This Is The Third One-Closest to IVC.

If It Were Not For The Title Case, I Would Say It Was A Good Description.

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  • This property was purchased on 7/13/2005 for $340,000. The owner used a $271,920 first mortgage, a $67,980 second mortgage, and a $100 downpayment. Well, she does have some skin in the game. It is much less than my security deposit, but she is invested…
  • On 2/1/2007 she refinanced with a $320,000 Option ARM with a 1% teaser rate and a $40,000 stand-alone second. Thankfully, she pulled out an extra $20,000. She might have lost her $100 downpayment otherwise.
  • Total property debt is $360,000.
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal is $20,000.

If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss to the lender will be $172,940. That is a substantial loss on a 900 SF 1/1.

BTW, I would like to call your attention to the newest blog in town: Irvine Homes. Erika Chavez of the OC Register is now writing a daily blog on Irvine real estate. We welcome the additional attention to Irvine this blog will bring, and I would like to wish Erika the best of luck with the new venture. I found it interesting that despite the talk of increasing sales rates, Irvine is still showing less sales this year than last. I look forward to more posts from Erika.

Go check out Irvine Homes.

I hope you have enjoyed this week at the Irvine Housing Blog. Come back next week as we
continue chronicling ‘the seventh circle of real estate hell.’ Have a great weekend.

🙂

{book2}

I hung up the phone tonight
Something happened for the first time deep inside
It was a rush, what a rush

‘Cause the possibility
That you would ever feel the same way about me
It’s just too much, just too much

Why do I keep running from the truth?
All I ever think about is you
You got me hypnotized, so mesmerized
And I’ve just got to know

Do you ever think when you’re all alone
All that we can be, where this thing can go?
Am I crazy or falling in love?
Is it real or just another crush?

Do you catch a breath when I look at you?
Are you holding back like the way I do?
‘Cause I’m trying and trying to walk away
But I know this crush ain’t goin’ away-ay-ay-ay-ayy
Goin’ away-ay-ay-ay-ayy

Crush — David Archuleta

Our HELOC Economy

Today’s post began as an email exhange between me an OC Progressive. He has analyzed the impact of the loss of mortgage equity withdrawal on the local economy. What he found is remarkable.

21 S Caraway kitchen

Asking Price: $635,000

Address: 21 S Caraway, Irvine, CA 92604

Steal My Sunshine — Len

i know it’s up for me
if you steal my sunshine
making sure i’m not in too deep

Rather than paraphrase, below is the full text of OC Progressive’s post:

Housing Bubble Busts Every Local Budget – Get Ready for Extreme Makeovers

In trying to follow local politics here in Orange County,
I’ve been looking very closely at local government budgets, and there’
s one trend that seems to be emerging rapidly. We’re seeing a
precipitous decline in local sales tax revenue. And this is not going
to be a temporary problem, but rather one with serious long term
impacts.

I was absolutely floored by OCTA’s fiscal review that showed a
difference over three years, in the projection of revenue from sales
tax, that lowered the 2009-2010 projection of sales tax countywide by
19% over their previous projections. (This was a difference between
projections, not between actuals, but both current and previous
projections were based on solid actual numbers and best case
projections).

The decline in sales tax has two components, and one will not recover. What nobody seems to be picking up is the relationship between the mortgage bubble and the collapse in California sales tax.

Calculated Risk has consistently posted graphs and reports that show Mortgage Equity Withdrawal (people taking money out of their
houses) as a percentage of disposable income. If you read the Irvine Housing Blog,
you’ll see example after example of folks who used their house as an
additional income from 2000 to 2007, turning debt into tax-free income,
frequently in the range of 50,000 a year. The phenomenon peaked in Q4
2006 when MEW was nine (9)% of disposable income nationwide, and 6% of
consumer spending. A year later, it had only dropped by around 20%.
Now it’s essentially cut off because no one will fund the loans
anymore, and no one will even fund the credit card debt that was
routinely paid off with visits to the house ATM machine.

Because Orange County in particular, and California, in
general, have housing prices so much higher than the national average,
and because we were at ground zero for the origination of the new
mortgage products, my guess is that mortgage equity extraction in the
OC may have been as much as twice the national average as a percent of
disposable income, meaning that up to 18% of the county’s disposable
income, and 12% of the taxable sales, were coming from MEW.

So
sales tax revenue money fell off a cliff in fiscal 08-09, although the
lag in reporting and balancing reports is making that truly apparent
only now. Last September the drop-off was in the six per cent range. Costa Mesa is now reporting a 12% year over year decline in sales tax for 08-09.
John Chiang just reported that “sales taxes continue to be hammered by
diminished retail spending across the state”, with an 11.8% year to
year drop-off in March. (And March sales might have borrowed some high
ticket sales in advance of the April 1st sales tax increase!) If you
dig down into the details of this Rockefeller Institute report,
you’ll see that a national decrease in retail sales tax reported by the
Wall Street Journal is actually a phenomenon driven by the real estate
bubble states of CA, FL, and AR. Double digit sales tax losses in those
states pull the national “average” loss of 6.2% down to 3.2%.

It’s hard to figure out how much of the decrease is a result of a
general economic slowdown, and the huge job losses, and how much is
based on the end of MEW, but my observation is that nobody is even
factoring in the disappeared MEW as a part of the problem, and local
and state electeds seem to think that normal cyclical patterns will
reassert themselves so that retail sales will revert to the mean,
Therefore, current assumptions and 2009-2010 budgets at every level
may be underestimating both the current and future drop-off in sales
tax revenue.

Instead, it’s more likely that a significant chunk of our
retail sales (let’s say 10% when compared to FY 2006-07) are gone
forever because of the collapse of MEW, and the jobs in local retail,
restaurants and services are following the jobs in finance, real
estate, and all the affiliated jobs that supported the refinance
industry. There are always lags, especially with small business owners
who are reluctant to throw in the towel, but we already have far more
retail than we need, and much of it is unprofitable.

Because of the budget preparation cycle, and the lagging
revenue information, local budgets for 08-09 were based on retail
sales for Q1-Q4 2007, so cities are drawing down reserve general fund
balances at a rapid rate, leaving very little flexibility for ensuing
years. Mid-year revisions didn’t cut expenses fast enough, so as
budgets are finalized and the retail sales numbers for FY 08-09 receive
real visibility, you’re going to see a series of bad choices.

This will hit transit first and hardest, where local transit
funds come from a 1/4 cent tax, and we’re looking at devastating
impacts in bus and transit systems in Orange County and across the
state.

Effects of sales tax collapse varies dramatically from city to
city and agency to agency based on the share of property tax that local
governments get, which is a bizarre calculation made when prop 13 went
into effect, but the overall effects are dire. Property taxes, whose
gross receipts had been going up around 6% a year, based on the 2%
increase for existing properties, and huge gains for resales. My guess,
more pessimistic than most, is that property tax revenue will now be
decreasing in the 2% per year range as property values drop by 50% and
reappraisals slowly move through the assessors’ systems, with some
additional problems with non-payment. Hotel taxes, which are a big
income source for many cities, are plummeting with the general economy.
Even stable sources like business license fees, franchise frees, and
utility taxes are dropping, so there are no positives to balance out
the drop in sales tax.

Given the way that local politics work, and the incredible
power of public safety unions, my gut feel is that very few California
cities will react quickly enough taking the steps they need to balance
their budgets, and that the Vallejo bankruptcy is a precursor to a wave
of municipal failures. It’s going to hit hardest, first in the places
where we’re already at depression level unemployment numbers, with no
new jobs in sight. Look at a city like Merced that has a 10 million plus gap in a 40 million dollar budget for next
year, after budgeting to dip 4 million into reserves to balance the
08-09 budget, and you’ll get a feel for how deep the cuts are going to
be. Merced anticipated a 7% drop in sales tax, and saw close to 19% in
the the fourth quarter of annual 2008. And there are fine points that
people don’t get. Merced will not only burn through the reserves that
they thought could carry them for five years, but they’ll also lose the
$800,000 or so of revenue that they used to make in interest on the
reserves.

Merced’s an extreme case, but it’s just a little earlier than
a city like Huntington Beach, which is now looking at a shortfall of at
least 6 million in revenue for the 2008-2009 fiscal year.

Every local government is going to be facing double-digit cut
backs in budgets for 2009-2010, and even worse cutbacks in 2010-11 if
their projections are too optimistic, and they get hit with substantial increases in PERS contributions that year.

Obama’s stimulus funds are patching a huge hole in the state
budget, but aren’t going to fill the problems with local funding
shortfalls.

All of the cities are applying for a part of the ONE BILLION
DOLLARS (cue Dr. Evil) that Obama has pledged to maintain local law
enforcement, but that’s divided over three years, and may pay for
5,000 cops nationwide, maybe 500 in California or an average of one
for every one of California’s 458 cities and 58 counties. Innumeracy
reigns at the council dais sometimes when elected officials are
grasping at straws.

We’re going to see an extreme makeover of local government.
Some revenues will recover very slowly. Other revenue, like the phony
money that was coming from the housing ATM, are just not coming back.

Local governments have grown used to steadily increasing
revenues, and have planned accordingly. Now they have to hit the reset
button.

Extreme makeover time!

{book2}

There you have a detailed and data-based analysis from someone who pays careful attention to these issues.

So what do you think our local governments are going to do? I suspect we will see a large number of municipal bankruptcies. A recent court decision concerning the Vallejo, California, bankruptcy allows the City to void its union contracts. When local tax revenues went up dramatically during the bubble, much of this money went to union wage and pension agreements. Now that this revenue is gone, probably permanently, cities will have difficulties meeting these obligations. I expect we will see more bankruptcies and union contract cram downs.

At some point, the reality of the permanent loss of MEW is going to set in on both homebuyers and government officials. When homebuyers realize it, there will be serious withdrawal pains from kool aid intoxication. When government officials realize it, there will be ugly political battles that will likely end up in court battles.

The fallout from the loss of mortgage equity withdrawal has yet to be fully felt and realized. It will be another shock to Californians.

21 S Caraway kitchen

Asking Price: $635,000

Income Requirement: $158,750

Downpayment Needed: $127,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $5,291

Purchase Price: $460,000

Purchase Date: 2/26/2003

Address: 21 S Caraway, Irvine, CA 92604

Beds: 4
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 1,808
$/Sq. Ft.: $351
Lot Size: 4,950

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Other
Year Built: 1977
Stories: 1
County: Orange
MLS#: P684218
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 1 day

Beautiful Home in Quiet & Prime Location of Woodbridge(near
Woodbridge North Lake). Fabulous floor plan with spacious bedrooms,
Fantastic Up grade Wood Floor. Located at the End of a Cul-De-Sac
street. Perfect for Kids!! 4-Bedroom-Single-Level In Woodbridge.

Random capital Letters?

Two exclamation points.

  • This property was purchased on 2/26/2003 for $460,000. There was an inter-family transfer on 6/14/2007, but this did not impact the financing on the property. When the property was purchased, the owner used a $413,540 first mortgage and a $46,460 downpayment.
  • On 2/25/2004 she opened a HELOC for $58,800.
  • On 4/12/2004 she refinanced the first mortgage for $426,300.
  • On 3/24/2005 she opened a HELOC for $230,000.
  • On 8/16/2005 she refinanced the first mortgage for $650,000 with an Option ARM with a 1% teaser rate and got a HELOC for $55,500.
  • Total property debt is $705,000.
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal is $291,460 including her downpayment.

If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss to the lender will be $108,100.

From now on, when you see these $300,000 mortgage equity withdrawal numbers on typical Irvine properties, you will have a good idea of the impact that had on our economy, and you will also see the impact the loss of this money will have moving forward.

{book7}

i was lying on the grass on sunday morning of last week
indulging in my self defeats
my mind was thugged, all laced and bugged, all twisted round and beat
uncomfortable three feet deep
now the fuzzy stare from not being there on a confusing morning week
impaired my tribal lunar-speak
and of course you can’t become if you only say what you would have done
so i missed a million miles of fun

i know it’s up for me
if you steal my sunshine
making sure i’m not in too deep
if you steal my sunshine
keeping versed and on my feet
if you steal my sunshine

Steal My Sunshine — Len

Turtle Rock is Not Immune

Turtle Rock is the one neighborhood I least expect to see dramatic price declines; however, this does not mean it is not immune to the pressures of the market.

2 Sarena kitchen

Asking Price: $949,000

Address: 2 Sarena, Irvine, CA 92612

{book6}

Secret O’ Life — James Taylor

I have been battling with recession stress lately. Unemployment in
the residential real estate industry is somewhere between 50% and 80%.
It is difficult to keep your spirits up when all you hear about are
layoffs. Sometimes it is good to relax and remember…

The secret of life is enjoying the passage of time
Any fool can do it
There aint nothing to it

It is not as easy as it should be in times like these.

Nobody knows how we got to
The top of the hill
But since were on our way down
We might as well enjoy the ride

Turtle Rock is one of the original Irvine Villages, and it has a large number of long-term homeowners. There should not be as much toxic financing here as in other villages, but as we have seen on previous posts, there is plenty of HELOC abuse causing problems. Prices here will fall, but it should not be as catastrophic in Turtle Rock as it will be in Turtle Ridge.

This is a pretty home. At least the knife catcher who buys here can enjoy their gilded cage.

2 Sarena kitchen

Asking Price: $949,000

WTF

Income Requirement: $237,250

Downpayment Needed: $189,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $7,908

Purchase Price: $1,200,000

Purchase Date: 3/15/2006

Address: 2 Sarena, Irvine, CA 92612

Beds: 3
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 2,328
$/Sq. Ft.: $408
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Contemporary
Year Built: 1987
Stories: 2
Floor: 1
View: Estuary
County: Orange
MLS#: U9001823
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 1 day

New Listing (24 hours)

The finest home for sale today in Turtlerock Pointe. See the pictures and slide show for proof.

Short and sweet–perhaps a bit too short.

I wonder if this owner reads Shakespeare, “Beware the Ides of March”

This property was purchase on 3/15/2006. The owner used a $500,000 first mortgage, and a $700,000 downpayment. He may be pissed about this loss, but this is certainly not a distressed sale. Kudos to him for recognizing it is a good time to bail.

If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss to the homeowner will be $307,940.

I know it shouldn’t make a difference, but I do feel bad for the people that lose their own money. We can speculate that it was appreciation from a prior sale, and it might be, but it is still a lot of money to lose. Bummer.

{book5}

The secret of life is enjoying the passage of time
Any fool can do it
There aint nothing to it
Nobody knows how we got to
The top of the hill
But since were on our way down
We might as well enjoy the ride

Isnt it a lovely ride
Sliding down
Gliding down
Try not to try too hard
Its just a lovely ride


Secret O’ Life
— James Taylor

It's Not the Economy, Stupid.

Many people seem to think the housing market will recover when the economy does. The economy is not the cause of problems in the housing market, and economic recovery will not save the housing market.

The rollbacks keep getting going further back in time. We are now seeing rollbacks of 2003 pricing more frequently.

143 Stanford Court inside

Asking Price: $380,000

Address: 143 Stanford Court #36, Irvine, CA 92612

The Scientist — Coldplay

I was just guessing
At numbers and figures
Pulling the puzzles apart

I want to let you in on a little secret; all market prognostication is guesswork. Many people looked at the same puzzle pieces I did and came to different conclusions. For several years, oracles like Gary Watts were right with their bullish predictions, and for a time, I was very incorrect in my bearish outlook. The bearish sentiment has been running very high on the blog lately. Most of this bearishness is justified because market conditions are pretty grim; however, we must always keep in mind the possibility that we are wrong.

OK, I considered the idea…

and rejected it…

Prices will still fall. It is pretty hard not to be bearish when you see 2003 rollbacks in 2009. I will note that economists who project overshoot of price fundamentals due to unemployment and foreclosures are guessing. Everyone can look at the same data and determine where affordability lies. The rest is guesswork. Some of these guesses will be good, and some will not. There is less science there than most prognosticators would like to admit.

{book2}

When the housing market peaked back in May of 1990, the economy was doing fine. It was not the economy that caused prices to peak; it was buyer exhaustion and financing limitations just as caused our most recent market peak.

The economy did suffer in the early 90s, but the problems did not not begin until well after the housing market peaked. In fact, scholars have argued that the Housing is the Business Cycle. The problems with the economy of the early 90s were rooted in a loss of disposable income because homeowners were overextended on their mortgages, and the money they should have been spending in the local economy was instead going to debt service somewhere else. It is a problem we will face going forward as well–unless the foreclosures wipe out the debts of most homeowners. Unfortunately, that would require wiping out most homeowners financially. There are no good solutions.

The other problems with the economy, including the defense industry layoffs, came after the market was already in trouble. These made matters a bit worse, but the layoffs of the early 90s were not the cause of the poor housing market. Prices dropped for 7 consecutive years from 1990-1997. The recession lasted less than one year.

Recessions do serve to make a bad market worse, but they are not the cause of housing market crashes, and the end of the recession does not signal the end of a housing market crash. As you can see from the chart above showing unemployment and recessions, the recession of the early 90s saw a peak in unemployment in 1993. Employment improved from 1993-1997 while house prices continued to drop.

In short, to paraphrase Jim Carville, the campaign manager for Bill Clinton in 1992, it’s NOT the economy, stupid.

143 Stanford Court inside

Asking Price: $380,000

Income Requirement: $95,000

Downpayment Needed: $76,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $3,166

Purchase Price: $413,000

Purchase Date: 12/9/2003

Address: 143 Stanford Court #36, Irvine, CA 92612

Beds: 2
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 1,200
$/Sq. Ft.: $317
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Other
Year Built: 1986
Stories: 2
Floor: 1
View: City Lights, Treetop, Trees/Woods
County: Orange
MLS#: S570805
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 5 days

GREAT VALUE!!! HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER PRINCETON TOWNHOMES IN UNIVERSITY
TOWN CENTER WITH AWARD-WINNING SCHOOLS FOR ALL LEVELS. THIS 2-STORY,2
BR,1 1/2 BA COMES WITH A DESIRABLE FLOOR PLAN THAT IS FEATURING BRIGHT,
SUNNY, AIRY & SPACIOUS WHICH ALLOWS A NICE COOL BREEZE DURING
SUMMER TIME & A VIEW OF SKYLIGHT AT NIGHT. LOCATED NEAR
UCI,SHOPS,THEATERS, FREEWAYS,RESTAURANTS,FASHION ISLAND & APPRX.10
MIN. FROM THE BEACH. WALK OR BIKE TO NEARLY EVERYTHING.IDEAL FOR
EVERYONE:INVESTORS,COUPLES, SINGLES,KIDS AND/OR STUDENTS. THE HOUSE
OFFERS HIGH VAULTED CEILINGS;AN OPEN OVER-SIZED LIVING ROOM W/FIRE
PLACE; A FORMAL DINNING AREA; 1/2 GUEST BATH DOWNSTAIRS & AN INDOOR
LAUNDRY ROOM. A GRAND SIZE PATIO FOR ENTERTAINING OVERLOOKING A TREE
TOP & WOODLAND VIEWS. CURRENTLY A GARAGE IS BEING USED AS A
WORK-OUT STUDIO. ALL BEDROOMS ARE UPSTAIRS. MASTER HAS WALK-IN CLOSET;
2ND BEDROOM IS AWAY FROM THE MASTER WHICH OFFERS PRIVACY FOR ROOMMATE
PURPOSES. YOU GOT IT ALL!!! LOCATION, LOCATION + VALUE AND FUN!

That description is so bad, I don’t know where to start.

ALL CAPS

Three exclamation points can be found in multiple locations.

If this is so highly sought after and desirable, why is it leading the charge for lower prices?

DINNING?

…IS FEATURING BRIGHT,
SUNNY, AIRY & SPACIOUS… what? There is a list of flowery adjectives and no noun being modified.

A VIEW OF SKYLIGHT AT NIGHT. Does that mean you cannot see the skylight during the day?

IDEAL FOR
EVERYONE:INVESTORS,COUPLES, SINGLES,KIDS AND/OR STUDENTS. How can a property possibly be ideal for everyone?

LOCATION, LOCATION + VALUE AND FUN! It must be an amusement park. Yippee!

There is more in there to pick on, but I have had enough…

  • This property was purchased on 12/9/2003 for $413,000. The owner used a $330,400 first mortgage, a $82,600 second mortgage, and a $0 downpayment.
  • On 9/21/2004 he refinanced with an Option ARM with a 1.25% teaser rate for $425,000.
  • On 11/10/2004 he opened a stand-alone second for $97,000.
  • Total property debt is $522,000.
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal is $110,000.

If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss to the lender will be $164,800.

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Tell me your secrets
And nurse me your questions
Oh, let’s go back to the start

Running in circles
Coming up tails
Heads on the science apart

Nobody said it was easy
It’s such a shame for us to part
Nobody said it was easy
No one ever said it would be this hard

Oh take me back to the start

I was just guessing
At numbers and figures
Pulling the puzzles apart

The Scientist — Coldplay