The current rally is being supported by buyers (often foreign) with large downpayments. Both the rally and the foreign investment were foreseen by Rich Toscano at Piggington.com and Voice of San Diego.
Asking Price: $515,000
Address: 8 Orangetip Irvine, CA 92604
Maybe someday (denial and hope)
Saved by zero (0% interest at the FED)
I’ll be more together (not in default)
Stretched by fewer (debt service payments)
Thoughts that leave me (where did the money go?)
Chasing after (bubble after bubble)
My dreams disown me (unlimited wealth and spending)
Loaded with danger (foreclosure and bankruptcy)
Maybe I’ll win (real estate always goes up)
Saved by Zero (the FED created a bottom)
Holding onto (kool aid intoxication)
Words that teach me (read the IHB)
I will conquer (knowledge is power)
Space around me (property in Irvine)
Maybe I’ll win (real estate always goes up)
Saved by Zero (the FED created a bottom)
Maybe I’ll win (real estate always goes up)
Saved by Zero (the FED created a bottom)
Saved by Zero — The FIXX
I have the greatest respect for Rich Toscano at Piggington.com and Voice of San Diego. When I wrote my first post, I am IrvineRenter (Inventory Cholesterol), I posted links to the foundational work he did in laying out the case for a housing bubble: Evidence of a California Housing Bubble, and Risks of a Serious Home Price Decline. These are great primer’s on the bubble written back in November of 2005.
I have been noticing a great deal of bullishness during this spring rally, and I was planning a post to put things in perspective, but Rich beat me to it. His analysis was so well done, that I want to acknowledge it here and add my own comments.
Perspective on the Home Price Rally
I noted earlier in the week (and incessantly before that) that home
prices have a seasonal tendency to rise in the spring and summer even
during the midst of a multi-year price decline.
That sounds like a good enough excuse to make a chart.
Below
you will find a look at San Diego home prices, as measured by the
Case-Shiller index, from 1990 through 1996. These years encompassed the
entirety of the five-or-so year home price decline visited upon San
Diego after the late-1980s housing bubble.
As you can see, the Case-Shiller index measured a rise in aggregate San
Diego home prices for every single year of the long price decline.
(Although 1993 just squeaked in there with a one-month, .1 percent
increase).
I’ll bet that during each of those spring rallies, a
lot of people became filled with hope the housing bust was finally
over. But through five of these head-fakes, it wasn’t.
Here for comparison is a look at the current housing downturn:
After an anemic spring bounce in 2006, the Case-Shiller index fell
unceasingly through 2007 and 2008, only to finally register an uptick
again earlier this year. The lack of spring-summer rallies is a
testament to the brutality of this housing crash.
The next graph overlays the two housing crashes in order to compared duration and magnitude:
The price decline this time around has been substantially larger — an outcome that was unsurprising based on the comparatively vast overvaluation of homes coming into the 2005 bubble peak. But while it may feel to
some like this price decline has gone on forever, it has not yet
endured nearly as long as the 1990s version.
Whether it
eventually does so remains to be seen. Either way, the first graph
should make it clear that a spring-summer home price rally should not
be taken as evidence that the housing bust has come to an end.
— RICH TOSCANO
If there is one thing you need to take away from the analysis, it is this: housing prices often move against the prevailing downtrend for spring rallies. It doesn’t mean the trend has reversed direction.
You can make the argument that the early 90s was different or that San Diego is not Irvine, but there are more similarities than there are differences. It is very unlikely that we are at a bottom. It is more likely that we will continue to see declines for another two or three years followed by tepid appreciation. For a durable bottom, we need rising employment, an expanding economy, stability at the low end of the market, stable financing, and a host of other conditions we do not currently enjoy. This isn’t over yet.
While we are talking about Rich Toscano, I want to call attention to an old article of his that addresses our other buying phenomenon here in Irvine: foreign cash buyers. Rich wrote a piece called Dumb Money, to describe how foreign buyers end up being the knife catchers.
One argument I hear a lot is that foreign demand for local real
estate has grown substantially in recent years, and that such foreign
demand will be supportive of prices in the future.
Unfortunately, this argument puts the cart squarely in front of the
horse. Investors from other countries are well known to be the very
last participants to arrive at the scene of a financial bubble. They
are the last to hear about all the riches to be made, the last to buy
in, and the last to realize that the party is over.
The
chart to the right provides an example from the history of bubbles
past. The blue line represents the price of the Nasdaq Composite Index
during its late-1990s flight to the heavens, along with the very
beginning of its eventual journey back to earth. The red line denotes
the dollar amount of U.S. stock purchases made by foreign investors.
It
can easily be seen that foreign buyers chased the U.S. tech stock
bubble all the way to the tippy top, and that they lagged prices the
entire way. The final onslaught of foreign cash did not even hit our
shores until after the Nasdaq had begun to decline from its final peak.
Far
from being a positive fundamental, a sudden excess of foreign
participation in an asset market is indicative of ill-informed
speculative money at work. When the foreigners really start piling on,
it’s always a good sign that the end of the bubble is nigh.
— RICH TOSCANO
The activity of foreign buyers with cash is not new or surprising. Rich wrote about what we are seeing today back in December of 2006. This activity will go on until the cash is spent, then prices will resume their decline.
Asking Price: $515,000
Income Requirement: $128,750
Downpayment Needed: $103,000
Purchase Price: $699,000
Purchase Date: 4/25/2006
Address: 8 Orangetip Irvine, CA 92604
Beds: | 3 |
Baths: | 3 |
Sq. Ft.: | 1,815 |
$/Sq. Ft.: | $284 |
Lot Size: | 2,525
Sq. Ft. |
Property Type: | Single Family Residence |
Style: | Other |
Stories: | 2 |
Year Built: | 2005 |
Community: | El Camino Real |
County: | Orange |
MLS#: | P698434 |
Source: | SoCalMLS |
Status: | Active |
On Redfin: | 1 day |

SCHOOL***NOT A SHORT SALE OR REO***NO MELLO ROOS***LOW TAX RATE***LOW
MONTHLY HOA OF $185.00 INCLUDES 2 POOLS, 2 TENNIS COURTS AND CLUB
HOUSE. BEAUTIFULLY UPGRADED WITH GRANITE COUNTER TOPS, WOOD FLOORS,
STAINLESS STEEL APPLIANCES AND RAISED PANEL CUSTOM CABINETRY…MASTER
SUITE HAS DOUBLE SINKS, JACUZZI TUP AND WALK IN CLOSET…FORMAL AND
CASUAL DINING AND CHECK OUT THE BONUST LOFT / OFFICE!!! VACANT READY TO
MOVE IN…BRING YOUR FUSSIEST BUYER…
- All CAPS
- *** multiple asterisks ***
- multiple exclamation points!!!
- Pergraniteel
This property was purchased on 4/25/2006 for $699,000. The owner used a $572,587 first mortgage, a $143,147 HELOC and a -$16,734 downpayment. Apparently, he was approved for cash-out at the closing (he probably was not immediately funded). With no skin in the game, he decided to give up:
Foreclosure Record
Recording Date: 05/26/2009
Document Type: Notice of Sale (aka Notice of Trustee’s Sale)
Document #: 2009000263486
Foreclosure Record
Recording Date: 02/20/2009
Document Type: Notice of Default
Document #: 2009000076573
If this property sells for its current asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss will be $214,900.
Asking Price: $525,000
Income Requirement: $131,250
Downpayment Needed: $105,000
Purchase Price: $470,000
Purchase Date: 4/16/2004
Address: 11 Butterfly Irvine, CA 92604
Beds: | 3 |
Baths: | 3 |
Sq. Ft.: | 1,707 |
$/Sq. Ft.: | $308 |
Lot Size: | 2,720
Sq. Ft. |
Property Type: | Single Family Residence |
Style: | Other |
Stories: | 2 |
View: | Park or Green Belt |
Year Built: | 1977 |
Community: | El Camino Real |
County: | Orange |
MLS#: | P697906 |
Source: | SoCalMLS |
Status: | Active |
On Redfin: | 3 days |
location of Irvine Groves. Romantic patio & atrium (very private).
Great for entertaining. Granite counter top in kitchen. Ceiling fans
throughout + A/C. Tile floors downstairs, carpet upstairs. Built-in
closet organizers. Recessed lights. Custom interior paint. This model
has one of the most private courtyards in the development. Walking
distance to shopping & restaurants.
The realtor did not write “light and bright,” but she can ditch the exclamation points, and perhaps some of the sentence fragments.
This property was a pure speculative venture.
- The owner paid $470,000 on 4/16/2004 and used a $376,000 first mortgage, a $94,000 second mortgage, and a $0 downpayment.
- On 6/16/2005 he refinanced with a $496,000 first mortgage, a $27,000 second, and a $27,000 HELOC.
- On 12/22/2005 he increased the HELOC to $57,000.
- Total property debt is $580,000.
- Total mortgage equity withdrawal is $110,000.
If this sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the property will turn a profit, but the lender will be out $86,500. I bet they wish they didn’t give this speculator that $110,000 they are about to lose….