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code
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from ’06
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from ’06
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92602
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$709,000
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-12.7%
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15
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-40.0%
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92603
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$1,620,000
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94.7%
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12
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-50.0%
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92604
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$550,000
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-16.3%
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14
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-56.3%
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92606
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$566,000
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24.2%
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11
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-50.0%
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92612
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$500,000
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-5.7%
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22
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120.0%
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92614
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$685,000
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10.2%
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18
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-18.2%
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92618
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$610,000
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17.3%
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11
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-15.4%
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92620
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$670,000
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-8.8%
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30
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-34.8%
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Category Archives: News
The Supply Side- Postponements and Pent Up Supply
As the busted 2007 summer selling (listing?) season has transitioned to a paralyzed fall market with persistently high new and resale inventory, the fact that Orange County real estate can decline in price is no longer deniable. The precipitous drop in sales creates a serious conundrum for most homebuilders: they have to balance the need for cash flow with the desire to maximize profits (or at least minimize losses) on their investments in land purchases and in-process construction. The homebuilders working with TIC have the significant added wrinkle of not fully controlling their own pricing.
Since the fear of being ‘priced out forever‘ has convincingly departed prospective homebuyers, many have accepted the proposition that remaining in a current home or renting might not be such a bad thing after all, at least until some more of the price excess is eliminated. The term “wait and see” is showing up in more and more mainstream media (MSM) real estate stories referring to the position of buyers in this standoff. Interestingly, I’ve heard with increasing frequency anecdotal suggestions that since transaction numbers are so low, perhaps so many buyers are now on the sidelines that once prices show any sign of stabilizing, everyone at once will come rushing in to purchase and it will be off to the races with happy days and increasing medians all over again. This is the “pent up demand” theory. Although it shouldn’t be a big surprise to hear realtors make this comment, some relatively rational colleagues and friends of mine have also wondered this out loud.
Well, my analysis of news in and around Irvine developments shows that this is almost certainly not going to happen. I would argue that any pent up demand is being countered with similar, or probably more, pent up supply. Many of these have been discussed on the forums, but here is my working summary of projects that are imminent and/or postponed. All will contribute to pent up supply in the months and years ahead:
Woodbury East– John Laing’s Celadon bravely opened on schedule this summer, but the originally-scheduled (late summer 2008) debut of California Pacific’s Sienna came and went, and William Lyon’s Ivy models look complete but are standing by, currently promised as January 2008.
Above- William Lyon’s Ivy: “bold” attached product. Are the salespeople keeping themselves occupied watching satellite TV?
Above- California Pacific’s Sienna detached condos, models still under construction…laid out like Decada and its predecessors. Is it my imagination, or did they manage to place these even closer together?
In Woodbury, CalPac’s Andalucia single family homes appear delayed (“early 2008” the letter says), but I’m not sure of what their original opening date might have been.
Orchard Hills- This entire development, originally slated to begin sales in late 2007, is officially postponed more than a year to 2009. Don’t be surprised if the opening is not early 2009 or the delay goes even longer. The Orchard Hills Apartments opened this summer, and do not appear to have incentives, so they may be leasing better than I predicted. The retail shops also opened on schedule, but how long will they be willing to pay TIC lease rates without progress building the community that was (presumably) supposed to be their primary market?
You can see more discussion on Orchard Hills here in the forum or here in a previous blog posting.
The Great Park (former El Toro MCAS)- Lennar has become rather quiet regarding progress and planning at the Great Park; apparently enough so to cause questions on behalf of the City of Irvine as to whether they are still committed to the original proposals. Keep in mind that Lennar won the bid for this property at the apparent peak of the market, in mid-2005.
“In Irvine, Lennar’s plans to build thousands of homes around the planned Orange County Great Park have been pushed back, and the city has not received an updated timeline from the developer since 2005.City officials said Lennar had projected that it would have 781 homes for sale by next year, though the developer said it vowed only to have that number of home sites ready for construction.A plan unveiled by Lennar last summer to nearly triple the number of homes from 3,625 to 9,500, while cutting back on commercial space and adding 400 acres to the park, hasn’t even been discussed with city officials.”
The Orange County Business Journal(registration required) quoted company officials as saying “I don’t think anyone has seen the bottom yet…[but] Lennar will be ready when the rebound comes” in reference to the housing market and their Orange County plans.
The new Village of Stonegate, north of Woodbury, has two signs from CalPac: Palmeras and Mirasol. I couldn’t find any details about either. One or both could even be apartments.
The grading and laying of utilities at Stonegate appears not too far behind similar work at Orchard Hills.
In the Villages of Columbus, William Lyon’s Mirabella luxury townhomes and Ainsley Park paired homes are “Coming soon.” From the brief description on the VOC website, it appears Mirabella is the Columbus Square successor to Kensington Court. Interestingly, they list a higher starting price point than Kensington Court (Columbus Grove, Irvine), which seems implausible given the change in the market and Tustin address.
For a good recap of Irvine project planning, see Zovall’s zoning map post.
A few interesting nuggets of industry rumor: Lennar is reportedly contemplating an end-of-year auction for at least some of their properties at the Villages of Columbus. Their end of fiscal is November, so this would likely occur in the next 30 days if true. Also, The Irvine Company is floating proposals for some kind of post-sale price guarantee to try to coax buyers off the fence. Details are very sketchy, and even if true, timing is unknown.
So the bottom line question should be: Will the buyers waiting for the market to get worse outlast the sellers waiting for the market to get better? For the sellers to win that battle, it assumes plausible the argument that the market is capable of postponing itself back to prosperity. Don’t bet on it.
Housing Valuations
You must remember this
A kiss is still a kiss
A sigh is just a sigh
The fundamental things apply
As time goes by
As Time Goes By — Frank Sinatra
Frank had it right, didn’t he? Fundamental things apply.
(Click on either image below to enlarge)
From Goldman Sachs…
From IrvineRenter…
It is one thing when some crackpot bubble blogger says the market is overvalued and due for a fall. It is quite another when Goldman Sachs, one of world’s largest investment banking and securities firms, says the same thing.
Anyone think Goldman Sachs is full of it?
Goldman Sachs report on California House price valuations — PDF File
Home Sales Data thru 10-15-2007
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from ’06
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from ’06
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92602
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$630,000
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-25.0%
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19
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-29.6%
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92603
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$1,179,000
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29.6%
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18
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-45.5%
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92604
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$555,000
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-14.9%
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19
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-40.6%
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92606
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$610,000
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-15.6%
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14
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16.7%
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92612
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$485,000
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-27.5%
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17
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6.3%
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92614
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$610,000
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10.9%
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23
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-14.8%
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92618
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$525,000
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-12.5%
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20
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300.0%
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92620
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$745,000
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-14.5%
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23
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-60.3%
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Four data points between -12.5% and -14.9% with two above and two below. Looks like we are down between 12.5% and 15% YOY, although with such low volume figures, who knows where we really are?
Market Sales Updates
Closed sfrs last 30 days: 42
address area tgn sale prc bd/bt sqft
29 Marsala Irvine/ Westpark 860C3 $540,000 3 2 1100
WTF Winner — $100K off asking
12 Woodland Drive Irvine/ Woodbridge 860D4 $550,000 3 2.5 1655
4 Terracima Irvine/ Northwood 830H7 $614,500 3 2.5 1549
30 Le Vanto Irvine/ Westpark 860C3 $590,000 3 3 1300
30 Appomattox Irvine/ Northwood 860H2 $613,600 3 2.5 1504
14871 Larkspur Circle Irvine/ El Camino Real 860G3 $580,000 4 2 1400
9 South Cherry Irvine/ University Park 860E7 $655,000 3 2 1550
14592 Sweetan Street Irvine/ El Camino Real 860H3 $640,000 3 2 1482
4052 Williwaw Drive Irvine/ Northwood 830G7 $687,000 4 2 1640
19 Sweet Rain Irvine/ Woodbridge 860D5 $685,000 3 2.5 1571
40 Finisterra Irvine/ Westpark 860B5 $685,000 3 2 1353
1 Wintersweet Way Irvine/ University Park 860B7 $680,000 4 2.5 2500
46 Willow Tree Lane Irvine/ University Park 860C7 $720,000 3 2.5 1708
14 Flaxwood Irvine/ Woodbridge 860E6 $705,000 3 2.5 1786
78 Summerstone Irvine/ Woodbridge 860c6 $745,900 4 2.5 1887
16 Wakefield Irvine/ Northwood 860G1 $738,000 4 2.5 2148
61 Finisterra Irvine/ Westpark 860B5 $747,000 3 2.5 1600
3 Recinto Irvine/ Northwood 830J6 $760,000 4 2 2000
11 Solstice Irvine/ Northpark 830G6 $775,000 3 2.5 2013
Sold for $75,000 off asking and $175,000 off peak.
104 Monticello Irvine/ Northwood 830H7 $830,000 4 2.75 2718
8 Champlain Irvine/ Northwood 830H7 $855,900 4 3 2718
7 Tory Corner Irvine/ Northwood 860H1 $870,000 4 2.5 2279
16 Glen Ellen Irvine/ Northpark 830H5 $855,000 4 2.75 2250
21 Valente Irvine/ West Irvine 830G4 $895,000 5 4 3200
23 Decente Irvine/ Westpark 860C5 $900,000 4 2.5 2446
22 Bamboo Irvine/ Northwood 860J2 $950,000 3 2.5 2460
14 Carnelian Irvine/ Woodbridge 860E6 $975,000 4 3 2600
48 Whitford Irvine/ Northpark 830F6 $1,050,000 3 3 2765
31 FLORA SPGS Irvine/ Northpark 830G6 $1,100,000 3 2 2850 28 Vacaville Irvine/ Northpark 830J4 $1,150,000 3 2.5 2468
6 Figaro Irvine/ Westpark 860D3 $1,265,000 5 4 3115
21 Breezes Irvine/ Woodbury 861A3 $1,312,384 5 4 3531
19151 Beckwith Terrace Irvine/ Turtle Rock 890C4 $1,320,000 5 3 3000
24 Bayporte Irvine/ Woodbridge 860E6 $1,675,000 5 3 3472
12 Dreamlight Irvine/ Quail Hill 890H3 $1,660,000 5 4.5 3700
50 Cezanne Irvine/ Turtle Ridge 890C6 $1,600,000 5 4.5 3660
WTF award winner. Sold for $300K off asking.
37 View Terrace Irvine/ Turtle Ridge 890C6 $1,949,000 4 4.5 3700
23 New Dawn Irvine/ Northwood 831A6 $1,875,000 5 5.5 5045
WTF award winner. Sold for $125K off asking. Lucky, IMO.
51 Hidden Trail Irvine/ Turtle Ridge 890C6 $2,250,000 4 4.5 3690
3 KENT Irvine/ Turtle Rock 890D2 $2,420,000 5 4.5 4894
17 Taggert Irvine/ Turtle Rock 890D2 $2,350,000 6 5.5 4515
22 Cactus Irvine/ Turtle Rock 890F4 $0 5 6 6250







