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Orange County home prices too high for incomes or rents

No matter how you look at home price data, it is simply too high to be sustained in Orange County.

Irvine Home Address … 25 TAROCCO 25 Irvine, CA 92618

Resale Home Price …… $282,500

She lives in a fairy tale

Somewhere too far for us to find

Forgotten the taste and smell

Of the world that she's left behind

Keep your feet on the ground

When your head's in the clouds

Well go get your shovel

And we'll dig a deep hole

To bury the castle

Paramore — Brick By Boring Brick

California home buyers live in a fairytale world where house prices go up forever and provide them with endless spending money. It's a seductive tale, and many people put their heads in the clouds (or is it up their a$$), live the fairytale and borrow and spend themselves into oblivion. It doesn't matter how much you pay as long as someone else has to pay the bills.

O.C. home prices still triple U.S. costs

December 1st, 2010, 1:00 am — posted by Jon Lansner

Despite horrific drops in the values of Orange County housing, a local home still practically costs what three typical American homes go for. Yes, one home here or three somewhere near Main Street U.S.A.

That’s one measure of local affordability, on a national scale. Just ponder fresh National Association of Realtors’ home price data for metropolitan areas: A typical Orange County house sold in the third quarter (median selling price: $508,400), cost 2.86 times the median-priced American home (cost: $177,900 in the third quarter!)

It’s equally troubling in a historic context: This Orange County premium remains higher now that it was in 1989 — the peak of the previous run-up in local housing prices.

Let's be clear about what is not happening here: There is not premium for a premium. There is a premium for Orange County real estate compared to the rest of the nation because Orange County residents have higher incomes. However, the premium on the premium paid by Orange County loan owners is causesd by people foolishly over-extending themselves to capture appreciation caused by people foolishly over-extending themselves. It is a self-reinforcing delusion punctuated by periods of steep declines when reality becomes unavoidable.

To be fair, this “Orange County premium” peaked at 3.42 American homes for one Orange County house in 2004. A 19% drop in local prices vs. a 3% drop nationally in the ensuing six years help narrow the local-vs.-national pricing gap.

So, the big question: Is the premium “worth it?” The math suggests that O.C.’s weather, culture and usually above-average salaries — and usually a good job market — supports pricier local housing.

Yes, local imcomes support higher prices, but only to the degree that incomes are higher than other areas. The rest is foolishness and kool aid intoxication.

And since 1982, local housing on average has costs double — eh, 2.38 times to be exact — to buy here compared to that mythical median-price American house.

Current economic weakness, no less some major challenges and the local and state level, bring the size of the premium deserved by Orange County housing into question for the future. Remember, one way to increase demand for housing is to be an attractive draw for out-of-towners seeking new employment of lifestyle.

Who is going to come to Orange County and pay these bloated prices? What high-paying business is going to expand here given the high home prices, high commercial rents, high state taxes, and dysfunctional state government that continually enacts business-unfriendly legislation? And what high wage earners are going to come here so they can pay more taxes and spend 40% or more of their income to live in a house half as nice as what they left behind?

Despite claims to the contrary put forth in the comments, house prices here are not justified by local incomes….

O.C. homes: 4th costliest vs. income

November 22nd, 2010, 9:30 am — posted by Jon Lansner

The price of entry to Orange County remains high.

Metro Price Income Ratio
Honolulu $621,000 $83,600 7.4
San Francisco $725,000 $101,000 7.2
New York-NJ $420,000 $64,700 6.5
O.C. $530,000 $83,600 6.3
Santa Cruz $502,000 $84,000 6.0
Los Angeles $353,000 $61,200 5.8
San Jose $575,000 $100,400 5.7
San Luis Obispo $380,000 $69,800 5.4
San Diego $390,000 $74,100 5.3
Oxnard $413,000 $86,300 4.8
Nation Price Income Ratio
U.S. $177,000 $62,000 2.9
Metro Price Income Ratio
Springfield, IL $116,000 $74,100 1.6
Utica-Rome, NY $90,000 $57,800 1.6
Grand Rapids, MI $91,000 $58,900 1.5
Elmira, NY $85,000 $58,600 1.5
Battle Creek, MI $81,000 $56,900 1.4
South Bend, IN $70,000 $53,600 1.3
Decatur, IL $73,000 $57,600 1.3
Saginaw, MI $61,000 $49,500 1.2
Detroit $52,000 $52,000 1.0
Monroe, MI $63,000 $63,900 1.0

Here’s another measure showing that despite steep price declines, Orange County homes are still costly compared to the rest of the nation — especially when local incomes are figured in!

FiServ’s recent home-price outlook contained intriguing stats on 212 markets and the relationship between the median selling price of homes (for second quarter 2010) in major metropolitan areas across the nation and the local household median incomes from 2009.

What did FiServ find?

  • In Orange County homes sold for 6.3 times the median family income.
  • That’s a little more than double the nationwide median of 2.9 years worth of income vs. median home prices.
  • Orange County ranks as the fourth-highest cost ratio of the 212 markets tracked.
  • California dominated the 10 costliest list with 8; only Honolulu (No. 1) and New York (No. 3) were from outside the Golden State.
  • Where’s the “cheapest” housing by this measure? Five of the 10 at the bottom are from Michigan — including Detroit at one year’s salary for a home!

Orange County residents put twice as much of their wage income toward housing than do people living in the rest of the country. Why is that? They do because they think they will get rich owning California real estate. It is foolishness on a grand scale.

Some have argued that housing is scarce, therefore, people are bidding up prices to get whatever is available. If that were true, rents would be correspondingly high. Rents do not support local pricing.

O.C. homes SoCal’s priciest vs. renting

December 2nd, 2010, 4:48 pm — posted by Jon Lansner

Orange County homes are far pricier than most of the housing in Southern California when compared to respective rents in the 7-county area.

County Ratio Year Change
O.C. 302 +6%
Santa Barbara 297 +19%
Ventura 259 -2%
San Diego 235 +3%
L.A. 210 +5%
Riverside 183 +15%
San Bernardino 141 +13%
All SoCal 212 +8%

That’s the conclusion of fresh statistics from the Real Estate Research Council of Southern California that involved the age-old buy-or-rent debate.

The council’s math compared median selling prices by county from DataQuick and average asking rents from RealFacts. For the third quarter, Orange County home-sale prices were 302 times local monthly rents — a cost ratio 42% higher than the regional average and the highest of the seven SoCal counties tracked.

Orange County has been the region’s priciest place to own a home by this math since the first quarter of 2008 when Santa Barbara County was tops. In the third quarter, Santa Barbara was second priciest by this measure, with its median sale prices 297 times typical monthly rents.

By this math, renting looked a bit better in the third quarter vs. the previosu three months as the ownehsip cost index rose 6% in Oraneg County and 8% regionwide.

Yet, clearly, tumbling home-sale prices has helped narrow the buy-to-rent gap in recent years. Since the cyclical peak for this ownership-cost ratio five years ago, the Orange County buy-to-rent ratio has fallen 34% while the regional ratio is off 41%.

So Orange County loan owners pay far more for housing as a percentage of their incomes, and they pay far more than is justified by the local rents. So what happens when reality catches up the fantasies of appreciation?

High-end homesellers cut prices sharply

December 1st, 2010, 12:36 pm — posted by Jon Lansner

Sellers of Orange County’s upper-crust properties are doing the deepest discounting.

Recent stats from HousingTracker.net — which tracks prices of homes listing for sale in brokers’ MLS system — show:

  • At the 75th percentile — the midpoint by price of the upper half of homes listed – Orange County’s asking price in November ran $694,833 – that is down 2.9% vs. the previous month and off 9.8% vs. the year earlier. This marker for Orange County’s higher-priced homes has fallen on a year-over-year basis for eight consecutive months.
  • At the 25th percentile — the midpoint of the lower half of homes listed – the asking price in November ran $299,940 – that is -2.2% vs. the previous month and 0.1% vs. the year earlier. This marker for Orange County’s cheaper homes has risen on a year-over-year basis for a year. (Arguably, an 0.1% gain isn’t much of an advance!)
  • The changing fortunes of these two niches puts the pricing gap between top and bottom at 122% — or $365,840 — the thinnest difference in listing prices between high and low ends since April 2008.
  • This gap was at its peak at 167% — or $500,000 — as recently as August 2009. Since then the “bottom” pricing — the 25th percentile — has been flat while the top’s asking prices — the 75th percentile — dropped 16%!

By the way, the actual median listing price — the 50th percentile — for November was $432,600, down 3.2% in a month and down 3.8% in a year.

The downward trend in asking prices for high-end properties is unmistakable. It will also continue for the foreseeable future because prices are way, way too high. Once the banks get around to foreclosing on the squatters in more expensive homes, inventory will swell further and prices will continue their descent.

Condo values and volatility

One of the more obvious signs that real estate was in a bubble was the price change and price levels of condominiums. Condo values are historically the most volatile. These are typically undesirable or semi-desirable properties, but once kool aid intoxication takes over and lenders fuel the flames with cheap debt, prices really catch fire.

All real estate is valuable in a housing bubble because appreciation rewards everyone. Since condos are relatively inexpensive, it is an easy way for the small-time specuvestor to play the game. The demand for these assets rises to the limit of lender folly during the boom, and it falls to its utilitarian value during a bust. Since people prefer larger detached properties, condos have limited utility, and prices fall precipitously.

It is truly astonishing what people were willing to pay for old, fee-laden, and cramped condos in Irvine. Today's featured property was purchased for $410,000 on 3/23/2006. It was probably a bargain at the time considering it has two bedrooms. There were some one-bedroom units that sold for over $400,000 in Irvine at the peak. The owners used a $328,000 first mortgage, a $82,000 HELOC, and a $0 down payment.

They quit paying the mortgage sometime in early 2009.

Foreclosure Record

Recording Date: 08/20/2009

Document Type: Notice of Default

Since this property is empty, the bank is in no hurry to foreclose. Instead after almost 500 days on the market, it dances to the tune of amend-extend-pretend.

Irvine Home Address … 25 TAROCCO 25 Irvine, CA 92618

Resale Home Price … $282,500

Home Purchase Price … $410,000

Home Purchase Date …. 5/23/2006

Net Gain (Loss) ………. $(144,450)

Percent Change ………. -35.2%

Annual Appreciation … -8.1%

Cost of Ownership

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$282,500 ………. Asking Price

$9,888 ………. 3.5% Down FHA Financing

4.55% …………… Mortgage Interest Rate

$272,613 ………. 30-Year Mortgage

$55,535 ………. Income Requirement

$1,389 ………. Monthly Mortgage Payment

$245 ………. Property Tax

$0 ………. Special Taxes and Levies (Mello Roos)

$47 ………. Homeowners Insurance

$370 ………. Homeowners Association Fees

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$2,051 ………. Monthly Cash Outlays

-$128 ………. Tax Savings (% of Interest and Property Tax)

-$356 ………. Equity Hidden in Payment

$17 ………. Lost Income to Down Payment (net of taxes)

$35 ………. Maintenance and Replacement Reserves

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$1,620 ………. Monthly Cost of Ownership

Cash Acquisition Demands

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$2,825 ………. Furnishing and Move In @1%

$2,825 ………. Closing Costs @1%

$2,726 ………… Interest Points @1% of Loan

$9,888 ………. Down Payment

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$18,264 ………. Total Cash Costs

$24,800 ………… Emergency Cash Reserves

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$43,064 ………. Total Savings Needed

Property Details for 25 TAROCCO 25 Irvine, CA 92618

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Beds: 2

Baths: 1 full 1 part baths

Home size: 995 sq ft

($284 / sq ft)

Lot Size: n/a

Year Built: 1983

Days on Market: 493

Listing Updated: 40455

MLS Number: P696563

Property Type: Condominium, Residential

Community: Orangetree

Tract: Othr

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According to the listing agent, this listing may be a pre-foreclosure or short sale.

SHORT SALE APPROVED FOR $295,000 BUT 2ND LIEN HOLDER IS STILL CRUNCHING NUMBERS ON WHAT THEY WILL ACCEPT TO RELEASE LIEN. MOTIVATED SELLER. Beautiful, bright and airy 2- bed / 1.5 Ba COndo, Upper-Corner unit. Great Location, walking distance to Irvine Valley Community College. SUBMIT ALL REASONABLE OFFERS. SELLER WILL GIVE EACH OFFER SERIOUS CONSIDERATION.

2ND LIEN HOLDER IS STILL CRUNCHING NUMBERS ON WHAT THEY WILL ACCEPT TO RELEASE LIEN — That is the story will all short sales. Short sales are primarily a negotiation between the delinquent borrower and the second lien holder. It's the main reason short sales take forever and rarely transact.

I hope you have enjoyed this week, and thank you for reading the Irvine Housing Blog: astutely observing the Irvine home market and combating California Kool-Aid since 2006.

Have a great weekend,

Irvine Renter

House prices resume their downward trend

The much anticipated second leg down in house prices is official. Will we hit bottom this winter?

Irvine Home Address … 8 INDIGO Irvine, CA 92618

Resale Home Price …… $1,049,000

Time is getting closer

I read it on a poster

fanatical exposers

on corners prophesized

I just come back to show you

all my words are golden

so have no gods before me

I'm the light

Alice Cooper — Second Coming

Back in July I wrote All Signs Point to Lower House Prices. Well, here we are….

2nd Leg of Home Price Declines Underway

By: Dirk van Dijk, CFA November 30, 2010

In September, home prices continued to slip, and the declines were very widespread. The Case-Schiller Composite 10 City index (C-10) fell 0.67% on a seasonally adjusted basis, and is up just 1.52% from a year ago. The broader Composite 20 City index (which includes the cities in the C-10) fell by 0.80% on the month and is up 0.55% from a year ago.

In August, the year-over-year gains were 2.50% for the C-10 and 1.61% for the C-20, so it looks like the year-over-year gains are rolling over. Of the 20 cities, only one (Washington DC, and it was only up 0.05%) posted a gain on the month, while 19 saw prices fall. Year over year, five metro areas saw gains and 15 suffered losses.

In August, there were also 19 down and just one up. It thus looks like a new downtrend in housing prices is under way.

It is difficult to argue with data. Prices are falling again — and not simply because they always drop a little bit at the end of the year — prices are falling all over the country on a seasonally adjusted basis.

Consider Seasonal Adjustments to Prices There is a seasonal pattern to home prices, and thus it is better to look at the seasonally adjusted numbers than the unadjusted numbers. Most of the press makes the mistake of focusing on the unadjusted numbers.

While the 0.55% rise in the C-20 year over year in isolation is not the end of the world, it hardly makes up for the damage that was done in the popping of the housing bubble, and it is also unlikely to last. From the April 2006 peak of the housing market, the C-10 is down 29.83%, while the C-20 is off by 29.56%.

Calculated Risk has created a great chart compiling house prices calculated by the Case-Shiller method back to the mid 1970s. It clearly illustrates the two previous bubbles largely concentrated on the coasts as well as the Great Housing Bubble.

As you can see from the chart, the Federal Reserve attempted to halt the house price decline before it reached its natural bottom. Perhaps they prevented an overshoot to the downside and saved many banks from going under. If they did, it was at an enormous cost that will ultimately be borne by taxpayers.

The Case-Schiller data is the gold standard for housing price information, but it comes with a very significant lag. This is September data we are talking about, after all, and it is actually a three-month moving average, so it still includes data from July and August.

Existing home sales have been weak since the home buyer tax credit expired (see "Used Home Sales Fall"). In the process, the inventory-to-sales ratio has been extremely high, at 10 months, although that is down from the June peak of 12.5 months. That is what we saw during the implosion of housing prices that took place in 2007 or 2008. Housing prices are going to fall again in the coming months.

I noted this in Home Price Drop Sudden and Dramatic.

Month-to-Month Data a Bitter Pill

It is hard to find much of a silver lining in the month to month data. Only Washington DC posted an increase, and that was anemic at just 0.05%. Only three other cities kept the decline to less than 0.5%: Las Vegas down 0.21%, Denver down 0.30% and L.A. down 0.43%.

On the other hand, there were five cities that posted month-to-month declines of over 1.5%. The Twin Cities were the hardest hit, plunging 2.21%, followed by Cleveland with a 2.00% decline. Portland was down 1.72%, Detroit fell 1.61% and Phoenix fell 1.55%. Those are similar in magnitude to the monthly declines we were seeing three years ago during the first wave of the housing price implosion.

I doubt the upcoming price declines will approach the depth of the previous drop, but it interesting that the decline is picking up speed and it now rivals the rate of decline from three years ago.

Results by Region

On a year-over-year basis, the strongest cities are in California, which was an early poster child for the housing bust. However, even there the year-over-year gains are starting to erode. San Francisco leads the way with a 5.43% rise, followed by San Diego, up 4.94%. LA was in fourth place with a 4.32% year-over-year increase.

DC was in third place with a 4.40% gain. Boston was the only other city with a year-over-year gain, and it was up just 0.39%. As recently as July, the year-over-year gains in California were 11.06% in SF, 9.26% in SD and 7.5% in LA.

There were nine metropolitan areas where the year over year declines were more than 2.5%. Chicago fared the worst with a 5.63% decline, followed by 4.36% in Tampa. It is not going to take global warming to put that entire city underwater — the housing market has already accomplished that.

Charlotte, which early on seemed relatively immune from the housing bust, is down 3.72% year over year. Portland is down 3.63%, and Detroit is off 3.15%. In other words, significant year-over-year declines are happening in just about every corner of the country.

Declines in the areas which did not rally during the bubble are most likely the result of deteriorating employment in the local economies in those areas. Without the bubble rally to facilitate over-borrowing and to create distressed loan owners, other factors must be driving the declines.

The graph below tracks the cumulative declines for each city over time. If the red bar is shorter to the downside than the yellow bar for a city, it indicates that prices in that city have risen since the start of this year.

In every city prices are below where they were in April 2006, but there is a huge variation. Las Vegas is the hardest hit, with prices down 57.57% from the peak, followed by Phoenix down 53.65%. Three more cities are down more than 40%, Miami (down 47.92%), Detroit (off 45.19%) and Tampa (with a 43.53% decline).

At the other end of the spectrum are Dallas (down only 6.26%), Charlotte (off 8.13%) and Denver (down 10.25%). (Note: the percentage declines I am quoting are from when the national peak was hit, the numbers in the graph are relative to that city’s individual peak, so there is a little bit of difference.)

No Support for Home Prices

The homebuyer tax credit was propping up home prices, but now with that support gone, prices are resuming their downtrend. People had until June 30 to close on their houses, and they had to agree to the transaction by April 30. That pulled sales into those months that might otherwise have happened in July or August. The credit was up to $8,000, so almost nobody would want to close their deal in early July and simply leave that money on the table.

The tax credit is a textbook example of a third party subsidizing a transaction. When that happens, both the buyer and the seller will get some of the benefit. The buyer gets his when he files his tax return next year, the seller gets hers in the form of a higher price for the house.

Since the tax credit is now over, that artificial prop to housing prices has been taken away. Sales of existing houses simply collapsed in July, after the credit expired, and have remained depressed ever since. The extremely high ratio of homes for sale to the current selling pace is sure to put significant downward pressure on prices.

There is still quite a bit of “shadow inventory” out there, as well. That is, homes where the owner is extremely delinquent in his mortgage payments and unlikely ever to make up the difference, but that the bank has not yet foreclosed on or foreclosed houses that have not yet been listed for sale.

Take a good hard look at the second graph (also from this source) and tell me what you think is going to happen to housing prices over the next few months. A normal market has about six months of supply available. During the bubble, the months of supply generally ran closer to four months, and prices were soaring. It was not until inventories climbed above the six month mark that prices started to fall.

The really collapsed as the months of supply moved into the double digits. The extensive government support for the housing market — including the tax credit, but also the Fed buying up $1.25 Trillion in mortgage paper to artificially depress mortgage rates — helped boost sales and bring the months of supply back down. Now that support is over, and the months of supply far exceed the worst we saw during the heart of the bust (Note: the graph is not updated to include the September data).

Calculated Risk created another interesting chart showing the relationship between months of supply and the monthly price change in the Case-Shiller. He inverted the price change data so the correlation is more obvious.

As you can see, when months of inventory goes up, prices go down. The only way prices hold up is if sales rates remain very low. If banks continue to hold out for top dollar, the inventory will never clear out.

The tax credit was not a very effective means of stimulus, but it did help prop up prices, and that is a pretty important accomplishment, even if it proves to be ephemeral.

Was it really? Why was it so important to temporarily prop up prices? Let's recap what was really accomplished:

  • create false hope among debtors,
  • prevent prices from bottoming,
  • delay the recovery of prices and the economy,
  • keep homebuilding in the doldrums,
  • keep a few zombie banks in business,
  • keep prices artificially high to price out would-be buyers,
  • and add billions to the bill for taxpayers.

What about that list is positive?

The credit cost the government about $30 billion. A large part of that money went to people who would have bought anyway, but perhaps would have done so in July or August rather than May or June. To the extent it rewarded people for doing what they would have done anyway, it did nothing to stimulate the economy.

Also, turnover of existing houses really does not do a lot to improve the economy. It is the building of new houses that generates economic activity. And it is not just about the profits of D.R. Horton. A used house being sold does not generate more sales of lumber by International Paper or any of the building products produced by Berkshire Hathaway or Masco. It does not put carpenters and roofers to work. New homes do.

While housing prices are important to the economy, the level of turnover in used houses is not. Home equity is, or at least was, the most important store of wealth for the vast majority of families. Houses are generally a very leveraged asset, much more so than stocks. Using your full margin in the stock market still means you are putting 50% down. In housing, putting 20% down is considered conservative, and during the bubble was considered hopelessly old fashioned.

As a result, as housing prices declined, wealth declined by a lot more. For the most part, we are not talking vast fortunes here, but rather the sort of wealth that was going to finance kids' college educations and a comfortable retirement. With that wealth gone, people have to put away more of their income to rebuild their savings if they still want to be able to send the kids to college or to retire.

The decline in housing wealth is a very big reason why retail sales have been so weak. With everyone trying to save, aggregate demand from the private sector is way down. If customers are not going to spend and buy products, employers have no reason to invest to expand capacity. They have no reason to hire more workers.

The cycle of deflation is difficult to stop once it gets started. Bernanke is right to be concerned. However, he is foolishly optimistic in his belief that he can do something about it. He can print a lot of money — which he is doing right now — but he will have to print a lot more to get consumers to change their behavior.

Underwater Mortgages Lead to Foreclosures

Also, as housing prices fell, millions of homeowners found themselves owing more on their houses than the houses were worth. That greatly increases the risk of foreclosure. If the house is worth more than the mortgage, the rate of foreclosure should be zero. Regardless of how bad your cash flow situation is — due to job loss, divorce or health problems for example — you would always be better off selling the house and getting something, even if it is less than you paid for the house, then letting the bank take it and get nothing.

By propping up the price of houses, the tax credit did help slow the increase in the rate of foreclosures.

No it didn't. The rate of foreclosure is completely artificial as the banks are doing the amend-extend-pretend dance. Right now, it takes 492 days to process a foreclosure.

Still, 23% of all houses with mortgages are worth less than the value of the mortgage today. Another five percent or so are worth less than five percent more than the value of the mortgage. If prices start to fall again, those folks well be pushed underwater as well.

On the other hand, it is not obvious that propping up the prices of an asset class is really something that the government should be doing. After all, it is hurting those who don’t have homes and would like to buy one.

It pisses me off every day to see my government working against my best interest with my tax dollars, particularly in a blatant giveaway to greedy and stupid bankers and greedy and stupid loan owners.

Support for housing goes far beyond just the tax credit. The biggest single support is the deductibility of mortgage interest from taxes. Since homeowners are generally wealthier and have higher incomes than those that rent, this is a case of the lower middle class subsidizing the upper middle class. Also, even if they are homeowners, people with lower incomes are more likely to take the standard deduction rather than itemize their taxes. The mortgage interest deduction only applies if you itemize.

It is also worth keeping in mind in the current debate over extending the Bush tax cuts for just 97% of the population as Obama has proposed, or for 100% of the population as the GOP insists on, that the $250,000 per couple threshold is for adjusted gross income, not the top-line income. Thus, a couple with income of $274,000 (in wages) but who pay $2000 a month in mortgage interest, would not see an increase in their taxes at all.

Housing Prices to Find a Lower Floor

The real problem though is that, now that the tax credit is over, prices will find their more natural level. Fortunately, relative to the level of incomes and to the level of rents, housing prices are now in line with their long-term historical averages, not way above them as they were last year.

In other words, houses are fairly priced — not exactly cheap by historical standards, but not way overvalued, either. That will probably limit how much price fall over the next six months to a year to the 5 to 10% range, rather than the 30% decline we saw from the top of the bubble. That, however, is more than enough of a decline to do some serious damage.

This authors assessment is a good one. I concur with what he wrote above.

The Case-Schiller report was weaker than the consensus expected. The second leg down in housing prices is underway, but fortunately will probably be a much shorter leg than the first one.

Still, that is bad news for the economy. Used homes make very good substitutes for new homes, and with a massive glut of used homes on the market, there is little or no reason to build any new ones.

Residential investment is normally the main locomotive that pulls the economy out of recessions. It is derailed this time around, and there seems to be little the government can do to get it back on track.

There is nothing the government can do to increase residential investment, and they shouldn't try. If they simply let the market work without continuing manipulation, the problem will fix itself, and the economy will improve.

Unfortunately for California, what our economy needs is a huge home price rally and lenders stupid enough to give out HELOCs like drugs at a rave. The California Economy Is Dependent Upon Ponzi Borrowers like the one I am featuring today. How will we make up for the loss of hundreds of thousands of dollars in consumer spending per household?

High end Ponzi borrowing

HELOC abuse is not restricted to social class or income level. It is a common misconception that only the poor and subprime borrowers don't know how to manage their money. High wage earners are equally likely to go Ponzi, particularly if they are trying to keep up with the other Ponzis in the neighborhood or in their social circles. Since high end homes are more expensive, the Ponzi borrowing was more extreme there. No matter how much people make, if they are offered free money, they will take all they are given — even if it costs them their house.

  • Today's featured property was purchased on 4/29/1999 for $528,000. The owners used a $422,000 first mortgage, a $52,750 second mortgage, and a $53,250 down payment.
  • On 5/15/2000, after about 1 year of ownership, these owners refinanced with a $540,000 first mortgage, withdrew their $53,250 down payment, and got an extra $12,000 in spending money.
  • On 3/2/2001 they got a private-party loan for $35,000.
  • On 3/18/2003 they refinanced with a $650,000 first mortgage and obtained a $32,000 HELOC.
  • On 8/31/2003 they refinanced with a $738,750 first mortgage.
  • On 3/19/2004 they obtained a $150,000 HELOC.
  • On 5/31/2005 they refinanced with a $847,000 Option ARM with a 1% teaser rate.
  • On 5/31/2005 they obtained a $121,000 HELOC.
  • On 10/25/2006 they got their final HELOC for $250,000.
  • Total property debt is $1,097,000 plus negative amortization assuming they maxed out the HELOC.
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal is $622,250.

They spent the house, and now they are likely to be a short sale.

Irvine Home Address … 8 INDIGO Irvine, CA 92618

Resale Home Price … $1,049,000

Home Purchase Price … $528,000

Home Purchase Date …. 4/29/1999

Net Gain (Loss) ………. $458,060

Percent Change ………. 86.8%

Annual Appreciation … 5.9%

Cost of Ownership

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$1,049,000 ………. Asking Price

$209,800 ………. 20% Down Conventional

4.55% …………… Mortgage Interest Rate

$839,200 ………. 30-Year Mortgage

$206,216 ………. Income Requirement

$4,277 ………. Monthly Mortgage Payment

$909 ………. Property Tax

$250 ………. Special Taxes and Levies (Mello Roos)

$175 ………. Homeowners Insurance

$139 ………. Homeowners Association Fees

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$5,750 ………. Monthly Cash Outlays

-$1023 ………. Tax Savings (% of Interest and Property Tax)

-$1095 ………. Equity Hidden in Payment

$355 ………. Lost Income to Down Payment (net of taxes)

$131 ………. Maintenance and Replacement Reserves

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$4,119 ………. Monthly Cost of Ownership

Cash Acquisition Demands

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$10,490 ………. Furnishing and Move In @1%

$10,490 ………. Closing Costs @1%

$8,392 ………… Interest Points @1% of Loan

$209,800 ………. Down Payment

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$239,172 ………. Total Cash Costs

$63,100 ………… Emergency Cash Reserves

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$302,272 ………. Total Savings Needed

Property Details for 8 INDIGO Irvine, CA 92618

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Beds: 4

Baths: 3 baths

Home size: 3,600 sq ft

($291 / sq ft)

Lot Size: 6,175 sq ft

Year Built: 1999

Days on Market: 104

Listing Updated: 40490

MLS Number: S629131

Property Type: Single Family, Residential

Community: Oak Creek

Tract: Kenw

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According to the listing agent, this listing may be a pre-foreclosure or short sale.

Gorgeous open concept luxury home nestled on quiet cul de sac in highly sought-after gated community. Huge kitchen opens to family room. Spacious master suite. Upstairs bonus/loft area. WOW!

The New Age of the Tiny House

The era of sprawling McMansions is over. The beast is extinct. Austerity is the newest fashion in real estate. Welcome to the dawning of the age of the tiny house.

Irvine Home Address … 187 BRIARWOOD Irvine, CA 92604

Resale Home Price …… $249,900

When the moon is in the Seventh House

And Jupiter aligns with Mars

Then peace will guide the planets

And love will steer the stars

This is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius

The Age of Aquarius

Aquarius! Aquarius!

Harmony and understanding

Sympathy and trust abounding

No more falsehoods or derisions

Golden living dreams of visions

Mystic crystal revelation

And the mind's true liberation

Aquarius! Aquarius!

5th Dimension — Aquarius / Let The Sunshine In

There is a simple truth that underlies our overly complex existence. The clutter of our daily lives weighs on us like layers of heavy emotion and pressing attachments.

There is a purity to living simply: daily exercise and meditation and surroundings free from clutter and distraction. Monastics have known this for centuries.

Now, with the collapse of the housing bubble and the upheaval to families caused by foreclosure, many are seeking an alternate way of life. A life with a much cozier house….

Tiny house movement thrives amid real estate bust

Associated Press — 11/29/2010

GRATON, Calif. (AP) — As Americans downsize in the aftermath of a colossal real estate bust, at least one tiny corner of the housing market appears to be thriving.

To save money or simplify their lives, a small but growing number of Americans are buying or building homes that could fit inside many people's living rooms, according to entrepreneurs in the small house industry.

Some put these wheeled homes in their backyards to use as offices, studios or extra bedrooms. Others use them as mobile vacation homes they can park in the woods. But the most intrepid of the tiny house owners live in them full-time, paring down their possessions and often living off the grid.

"It's very un-American in the sense that living small means consuming less," said Jay Shafer, 46, co-founder of the Small House Society, sitting on the porch of his wooden cabin in California wine country. "Living in a small house like this really entails knowing what you need to be happy and getting rid of everything else."

Why Do Buddhists Avoid Attachment? "In nonattachment, on the other hand, there’s unity. There’s unity because there’s nothing to attach to. If you have unified with the whole universe, there’s nothing outside of you, so the notion of attachment becomes absurd. Who will attach to what?"

Because we think we have intrinsic existence within our skin, and what's outside our skin is "everything else," that we go through life grabbing for one thing after another to make us feel safe, or to make us happy."

Shafer, author of "The Small House Book," built the 89-square-foot house himself a decade ago and lived in it full-time until his son was born last year. Inside a space the size of an ice cream truck, he has a kitchen with gas stove and sink, bathroom with shower, two-seater porch, bedroom loft and a "great room" where he can work and entertain — as long as he doesn't invite more than a couple guests.

He and his family now live in relatively sprawling 500-square foot home next to the tiny one.

Shafer, co-owner of the Tumbleweed Tiny House Company, designs and builds miniature homes with a minimalist style that prizes quality over quantity and makes sure no cubic inch goes to waste. Most can be hooked up to public utilities. The houses, which pack a range of amenities in spaces smaller than some people's closets, are sold for $40,000 to $50,000 ready-made, but cost half as much if you build it yourself.

It sounds like a cross between a mobile home, a motor home, and a log cabin.

Tumbleweed's business has grown significantly since the housing crisis began, Shafer said. He now sells about 50 blueprints, which cost $400 to $1,000 each, a year, up from 10 five years ago. The eight workshops he teaches around the country each year attract 40 participants on average, he said.

"People's reasons for living small vary a lot, but there seems to be a common thread of sustainability," Shafer said. "A lot of people don't want to use many more resources or put out more emissions than they have to."

Compared to trailers, these little houses are built with higher-quality materials, better insulation and eye-catching design. But they still have wheels that make them portable — and allow owners to get around housing regulations for stationary homes.

Since the housing crisis and recession began, interest in tiny homes has grown dramatically among young people and retiring Baby Boomers, said Kent Griswold, who runs the Tiny House Blog, which attracts 5,000 to 7,000 visitors a day.

"In the last couple years, the idea's really taken off," Griswold said. "There's been a huge interest in people downsizing and there are a lot of young people who don't want to be tied down with a huge mortgage and want to build their own space."

Everyone here in Irvine still wants to be tied down to a huge mortgage.

Gregory Johnson, who co-founded the Small House Society with Shafer, said the online community now has about 1,800 subscribers, up from about 300 five years ago. Most of them live in their small houses full-time and swap tips on living simple and small.

Johnson, 46, who works as a computer consultant at the University of Iowa, said dozens of companies specializing small houses have popped up around the country over the past few years.

Before he got married, Johnson lived for six years in a small cabin he built himself and he wrote a book called "Put Your Life on a Diet: Lessons Learned from Living in 140 Square Feet."

Austerity is one thing, but I think these people take it a bit too far.

"You start to peel away the things that are unnecessary," said Johnson, who now lives in a studio apartment with his wife. "It helps you define your priorities with regard to your material things."

Northern California's Sonoma County has become a mini-mecca for the tiny house industry, with an assortment of new businesses launching over the last few years.

Stephen Marshall, 63, worked as a building contractor for three decades before the real estate market tanked three years ago. That's when he jumped into the tiny house business, starting Petaluma-based Little House On The Trailer.

I enjoy reading about entrepreneurs who found a way to make a new living in real estate. Kudos to Mr. Marshall.

His company builds and sells small houses that can serve as stand-alone homes equipped with bathrooms and kitchens, and others he calls "A Room of One's Own" that can be used as a home office or extra bedroom. Many of his customers are looking for extra space to accommodate an aging parent or adult children who are returning home, he said.

The adult children coming home to a 150 SF detached house ought to motivate them to get a job and rent a nicer place. It must be quite a fall from entitlement to downsize that much.

He said his small houses, which sell for $20,000 to $50,000, are much cheaper than building a home addition and can be resold when the extra space is no longer needed. His company has sold 16 houses this year and aims to sell 20 next year.

"The business is growing as the public becomes aware of this possibility," Marshall said. "A lot of families are moving in with one another. A lot of young people can't afford to move out. There's just a lot of economic pressure to find an alternative way to provide for people's housing needs."

Tiny House Movement Thrives

by Kent Griswold on November 30th, 2010

A couple of months ago Terence Chea from the Associated Press contacted me wanting to do a story about the tiny house movement. Terence wanted some local examples of tiny house builders so I put him in contact with Jay Shafer and Stephen Marshall. I also gave him Gregory Johnson of Small House Society contact information. Terence than arranged to come out and interview and video tape us at different locations.

Yesterday the Associated Press published the story with Jay Shafer and Tumbleweed as the top story. He than went on to quote Gregory and myself and closed with Stephen Marshall and Little House on the Trailer. The article went live yesterday and than spread almost virally across the web. Below you will see the story highlighted on Yahoo.com.

The good news is that there has been a huge spike in interest and traffic to our websites and blogs. I had triple the traffic yesterday and if you tried to get to the blog you found it extremely slow. Many more people have discovered the idea of tiny houses. I have been asked to be interviewed on two radio broadcasts and more requests are coming in. You can read the Associated Press article here.

Congratulations, Kent, on your 15 minutes of fame. If you write well about something people find compelling, the word gets out. Nice job.

Demand for McMansions is eternal

Despite the high hopes of tree huggers everywhere, there will always be a demand for McMansions. If they become scarce, demand will be more intense and prices will be higher as the highest wage earners bid up prices with available financing terms.

The simple truth is that people want to live in big detached homes. I want to live in a big detached home. I will settle for whatever I can afford, but I will always prefer a big detached home to a small condo at a transit stop. And so does everyone else. The green movement can't change human nature.

For those who are looking for the simple life in Irvine, today's featured property is about as close as you can get.

Zero down equity surfer

Once the housing market became a blatant and obvious Ponzi Scheme, many posers bought properties with no money down and extracted and spent appreciation as it appeared. Why not? Banks were giving out free money — actually they were more than giving it away, they pushing money on people. All the neighbors were taking it — as illustrated here daily — so it shouldn't be surprising that taking free money became a component of their lifestyle spending. Today we have one such equity surfer. He got as much equity as he could, and now he is discarding the empty shell.

  • This property was purchased on 5/15/2003 for $240,000. The owner used a $192,000 first mortgage, a $48,000 second mortgage, and a $0 down payment.
  • On 3/15/2004 he obtained a $25,000 HELOC.
  • On 4/1/2004 he refinanced with a $243,500 first mortgage.
  • On 4/29/2005 he obtained a $40,000 HELOC.
  • On 7/12/2005 he refinanced with a $285,639 first mortgage.
  • On 8/6/2006 he obtained a $122,000 HELOC.
  • Total property debt (assuming maxed out HELOC) is $407,639.
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal was $167,639.

The return on investment is infinite when there is no investment.

Irvine Home Address … 187 BRIARWOOD Irvine, CA 92604

Resale Home Price … $249,900

Home Purchase Price … $240,000

Home Purchase Date …. 5/15/2003

Net Gain (Loss) ………. $(5,094)

Percent Change ………. -2.1%

Annual Appreciation … 0.5%

Cost of Ownership

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$249,900 ………. Asking Price

$8,747 ………. 3.5% Down FHA Financing

4.55% …………… Mortgage Interest Rate

$241,154 ………. 30-Year Mortgage

$49,126 ………. Income Requirement

$1,229 ………. Monthly Mortgage Payment

$217 ………. Property Tax

$0 ………. Special Taxes and Levies (Mello Roos)

$42 ………. Homeowners Insurance

$385 ………. Homeowners Association Fees

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$1,872 ………. Monthly Cash Outlays

-$113 ………. Tax Savings (% of Interest and Property Tax)

-$315 ………. Equity Hidden in Payment

$15 ………. Lost Income to Down Payment (net of taxes)

$31 ………. Maintenance and Replacement Reserves

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$1,491 ………. Monthly Cost of Ownership

Cash Acquisition Demands

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$2,499 ………. Furnishing and Move In @1%

$2,499 ………. Closing Costs @1%

$2,412 ………… Interest Points @1% of Loan

$8,747 ………. Down Payment

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$16,156 ………. Total Cash Costs

$22,800 ………… Emergency Cash Reserves

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$38,956 ………. Total Savings Needed

Property Details for 187 BRIARWOOD Irvine, CA 92604

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Beds: 2

Baths: 1 bath

Home size: 921 sq ft

($271 / sq ft)

Lot Size: n/a

Year Built: 1978

Days on Market: 93

Listing Updated: 40499

MLS Number: K10096853

Property Type: Condominium, Residential

Community: West Irvine

Tract: Cc

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According to the listing agent, this listing may be a pre-foreclosure or short sale.

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Foreclosures are essential to the economic recovery

Some housing advocates claime that foreclosures are a problem. In reality, they are essential to the economic recovery.

Irvine Home Address … 13 SPRING BUCK Irvine, CA 92614

Resale Home Price …… $749,000

I ain't got a fever got a permanent disease

It'll take more than a doctor to prescribe a remedy

I got lots of money but it isn't what I need

Gonna take more than a shot to get this poison out of me

Bon Jovi — Bad Medicine

Well meaning people are often wrong. The foreclosure process — essential to the cleansing of consumer debt and the recovery of the housing market — is very painful for the families that must endure it. Many on the left of the political spectrum are pandering to the masses facing foreclosure and proposing policies that would remove the negative consequence of foreclosure for those who over borrowed. Unfortunately, removing these consequences is the essence of moral hazard: if people don't experience consequences of their foolish actions, they tend to repeat the mistake.

John Taylor: Foreclosures Are the Mortal Enemy to Economic Recovery

Lori Ann LaRocco — Monday, 29 Nov 2010 — (edited for brevity)

The foreclosure crisis still divides us into two camps. There are those who believe that foreclosing rapidly on homes subject to defaulted mortgages is vital to clearing the market. Others believe we should do everything we can to keep people in their homes, urging loan modifications to forestall foreclosures.

Obviously, I am in the group that favors rapidly clearing the market. As long as the debt on real estate is excessive and capital is tied up in non-performing assets, the economy will suffer. It's really that simple. The solution is equally simple: foreclose on delinquent borrowers wiping out the debt and extract the remaining capital value. With the excess debt removed, borrowers can use their wage income to buy goods and services rather than giving it to the bank. When the mis-allocated capital is returned to the market, new investment will be spurred in areas where capital is most needed. Right now, we don't need more real estate.

John Taylor, President and CEO of the National Community Reinvestment Coalition, falls solidly in the latter camp. Taylor would like to see widespread mortgage modifications that would allow homeowners in danger of defaulting to keep their homes. Taylor is on the board of directors of the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition and the Leadership Conference for Civil Rights. He has also served on the Consumer Advisory Council of the Federal Reserve Bank Board, The Fannie Mae Housing Impact Division as well as The Freddie Mac Housing Advisory Board. He is extremely passionate on why his idea is the right choice to help turn around the real estate market.

Despite the repeated failure of every loan modification program, people continue to advocate them. These programs are a complete failure. Even the worst government programs are usually touted as a qualified success among its advocates. Nobody thinks loan modification programs have been a success, yet we still have people clamoring for them. I suppose if it is the only solution available that suits an agenda, people will support it even when it is a proven failure.

LL: There has been so much overleveraging in the real estate industry and lower interest rates can only help so much, what needs to get done with this new Congress looking at Financial Reform with Fannie and Freddie because they have not been address yet.

JT: You are absolutely right. It's kind of like pumping plasma into a patient while the patient is still bleeding. We need to stanch the foreclosure crisis first.

How is the government supposed to solve the foreclosure crisis without injecting more money?

So the government has to get serious about this problem. The Administration’s voluntary approach to foreclosure prevention has probably done as much as it can possibly do, and even by their standards has not done enough.

They have to step up the pressure now to achieve better results. The Federal Housing Administration (FHA) and Fannie and Freddie are the only securitizers in town now until the private market comes back; , they ought to be able to get banks and servicers willing to cooperate and modify these loans heading to foreclosure.

It must be done. Because it is absolutely going to slow down any type of economic recovery if we have the eleven million more foreclosures projected by Wall Street analysts; if they go through, it’s going to triple the number of foreclosures we’ve experienced. How is that going to help the economy?

It will help the recovery because it will eliminate the excessive property debt of millions of over-extended borrowers. When borrowers have excessive home debt, the excess comes directly out of disposable income. Since consumer spending is such an important component of the economy, the excess interest payments are a direct financial drain.

This is the key point advocates of loan modifications fail to recognize. The banks don't want to see it because purging debt costs them money. Advocates on the left don't want to see it because purging debt requires foreclosure.

So you have to put on the table the idea of taking as many of these troubled loans as possible and putting the homeowners in sustainable, modified loans, that are based on their ability to pay. Banks should have made these kinds of loans, which the homeowner could actually pay back, in the first place.

Yes, banks shouldn't have made stupid loans to begin with. Foreclosure and its associated losses are essential to provide consequences to the banks for their foolishness to ensure this doesn't happen again.

LL: But what about the millions of people who purchased homes they could afford? Why should people be allowed to stay in homes they had no business buying in the first place, because they were way out of their price tag?

JT: Was it a massive, malfeasant, greedy, lending industry that caused the problem or was it stupid consumers who should have known better? I think the evidence overwhelmingly supports the former conclusion.

Yes, Lenders Are More Culpable than Borrowers, but so what? Both parties need to endure the consequences of their decisions. Just because one party is more to blame than another doesn't mean the less blameworthy participant gets a pass.

But that doesn't matter anymore; we don’t have time for that debate.

WFT? We have plenty of time for a debate. It isn't a debate this fool wants to have because he knows his position is weak and he doesn't want to face the stronger arguments on the other side. Interesting debating technique; win by claiming there is not time for debate.

The question now is what do we do to stop the foreclosures that are killing our economy by a thousand cuts, a hundred fold, every month.

Foreclosures are the mortal enemy to economic recovery. We can keep on pumping money into the system to create liquidity for banks and in the market, but it’s simply not going to succeed until they plug the hole at the bottom of the well!

Each word above is complete nonsense. First, foreclosures are not killing our economy, they are curing it. Second, foreclosures are not a hole at the bottom of the well. We are not leaking liquidity. Money is flowing in to the housing market at very low interest rates in an attempt to limit losses on the oversized loans of the bubble.

So what has the Administration done to stem foreclosures? They have put in place a voluntary program, which has done roughly half a million permanent modifications since the program began, but there's been three and a half million foreclosures during the same time period and seven million foreclosure filings.

That kind of performance earns merits a failing grade by any one's standards.

Since the program had no chance of success when it was initiated, and since its real purpose was to create a false hope among borrowers to induce them into making a few more payments, many banking and government interests consider this program a success.

So what do federal officials need to do? They need to stop carrying their hat in hand when dealing with Wall Street; The government can pound these guys, and they have all the leverage they need by merit of the fact that the banks can't do business without them. I hear people critical about the government’s role in the private lending sector; but without the government we don't have a housing market right now. Without the government there is no Fed window and bond issuance and the liquidity they create. Without the government there is no securitization. Wall Street isn't doing these things; there is almost no private label securitization happening.

You know, all these banks are sitting on loans heading into foreclosure because the banks that hold the second liens are refusing to modify; the banks that hold the second liens are expecting the first lien holders will take the entire hit, and they’ll get paid out at 100%. Well these banks holding the second liens need to be taken to task, because they are holding up a lot of modifications.

Despite the exaggeration about the 100% payout, his observation is correct; second mortgage holders are holding up both loan modifications and short sales. The second has no value. The only strength they have in the negotiation for short sale or loan modification is the ability to say no. Therefore, they say no quite often. The cramdown of second mortgages this gentleman advocates is why we have foreclosure. Second mortgages are converted from debt secured by real estate to unsecured debt similar to a credit card in a foreclosure.

Also, what are Fannie and Freddie waiting for? The government holds tremendous regulatory authority over them; but government officials says they can’t tell them what to do, even though the government says no not really, Fannie and Freddie that they are just in conservatorship. and we can’t tell them what to do. That's just not true. The government is in the position to tell Fannie and Freddie to refinance hundreds of thousands of loans tomorrow, but Fannie and Freddie and the administration are looking at their bottom line so they are charging extra fees above the private market on anything that has any type of risk in it. Fannie and Freddie have not reduced the principal on one single mortgage.

Halleluia! Not one penny of my tax dollars should go toward paying down the mortgage of a HELOC abuser.

They have done half of what the banks are doing. We said from the beginning, to Secretary Paulson and then Geithner, that the foreclosure crisis can’t be resolved by the voluntary participation of the banks.

You can't keep on sweetening the pie and expect them to do the right thing. The truth of the matter is that when push comes to shove the banks have no choice because the government has the ability to say to banks that if they want to do business with the government, including the Federal Reserve, FHA and the GSEs, they must cooperate and restructure these loans. If that had been done, some investors would have had to take some losses; but they are losing now at a very slow rate, prolonging the problem.

Yes, we should have nationalized the banks back in 2008, wiped out the shareholders, given haircuts to the bondholders, and started over. If we had done that, we would be past this crisis today.

The government should use the money they earned from TARP and purchase hundreds of thousands of loans at a discount—at a discount because they are not worth what they once were—and then recycle them into good, permanent, sustainable loans. Where people lost their jobs and can't afford their homes, other solutions are necessary. And abandoned properties should be foreclosed on and the properties should be put back on the market.

But we’re not seeing practical solutions to the foreclosure crisis pursued. It seems to me people are just throwing up their arms, letting everything go down and saying if we don't get through all these foreclosures we will never see a bottom. I think its a terrible way to get through all this, and it will undermine our economy for years to come.

Wrong! The people he characterizes as "throwing up their arms" are really sitting on their hands and doing the right thing. Fix the Housing Market: Let Home Prices Fall

LL: What you are proposing is extremely unpopular. How do you convince Americans this is the way to go to help the industry heal?

JT: People have a right to be mad, but they shouldn’t be mad at 17 million plus homeowners that have either gone into foreclosure or are heading there. Seventeen million homeowners can’t all be stupid and greedy and wrong.

No, they can't all be stupid and greedy, but as I have pointed out day after day, many of them were stupid and greedy, and you can't bail out anyone without significant moral hazards. Why is it necessary for 100% of the people facing foreclosure to be stupid and greedy in order to resist loan modifications and principal reduction? If 50% were stupid and greedy, do we want to reward that 50%?

The behavior of the industry is what changed; the financial services sector tricked and trapped these people, without the proper oversight to rein in their irresponsible lending practices.

The old predatory lending justification: people were tricked and trapped. If they were, they were tricked and trapped by their greed and stupidity.

Should people have known better? Yes. But the industry was rigged to push through these loans and convince people they could afford to do it. But again, it’s too late to rehash these tired debates.

No, it is not too late to rehash a debate in which the author is clearly wrong. The reason we have those debates is because policy advocates like this guy push for the wrong solutions. People should have known better than to take out Option ARMs, and they bear some responsibility for their actions.

If we do not respond to the foreclosure crisis now, we can guarantee the pain that will be felt by most of the people in this country. Families facing foreclosure don’t want a handout, they just want reasonable help.

Bullshit, they want a handout. They want principal reduction to get through the crisis, and when house prices start going back up, they want the free money of mortgage equity withdrawal.

In fact, most of the people that got bad loans, perhaps 90 percent of them, are still paying on that sub-prime loan. Some of them have just simply fallen behind.

If we don't do restructure their loans and keep people in their homes, property values will drop and everyone will be impacted who owns a home. We need to share the pain now, because otherwise it will affect us more broadly.

Why do homeowner losses need to be shared with the rest of us? As a renter who chose not to participate in the madness, I don't want to share in paying the bills of HELOC abusing Ponzis.

Many people might think well, gee, if these homeowners had been smart they should have gotten the loan I got.

Yes, Responsible Homeowners are NOT Losing Their Homes.

Well that loan was not available to them because the system was rigged to push people into higher cost loans. Why? Because brokers and lenders got their fees and earnings that were connected to convincing people to take out more expensive mortgages with predatory terms and conditions. That's what was wrong.

You can sit there and say the people should have known better, and call that the moral hazard. Or, you can recognize the real moral hazard here was allowing an industry to prepay upon a substantial portion of the home-owning public, to give them loans with terms and conditions the lenders knew were not sustainable.

Why does it have to be either one position or the other? People should have known better, and if we bail them out, it does create moral hazard. This is the same for the individual or for the lending industry as a whole. Both parties need to feel the pain of their collective bad decisions.

The moral dilemma then is do you put the burden on the people affected, while the banks are allowed to continue with their business? With the exception of investment products, when other other consumer product goes bad, the burden is put on the manufacturer, not the consumer.

Giving borrowers a pass is not the answer. No matter how you cloak it, any bailout that does not have the borrower endure the consequences of their mistakes is going to result in moral hazard and continued bad behavior among borrowers and bankers.

A bountiful harvest

Many people go to the home equity piggy bank each year. Some do this because they can't control their spending, so they must borrow more each year to pay off their credit cards. Some add to their mortgage debt because they believe it is free money they won't have to repay. A few likely knew it was a Ponzi Scheme and gamed the system because the banks were stupid enough to let them.

The owner of today's featured property went to the ATM machine periodically. I have no way of knowing what they did with the money, but it certainly appears as if this money was used to supplement their lifestyle spending. I wonder how well they are adjusting to a life without their own ATM machine?

  • The owners paid $179,000 on 4/28/1998. Their original mortgage information is not available.
  • On 6/23/1997 they refinanced with a $192,000 first mortgage. Even during the last bust these owners managed to increase their mortgage and extract some spending money.
  • On 2/25/1998 they refinanced with a $217,000 first mortgage.
  • On 7/31/2001 they refinanced with a $220,000 first mortgage.
  • On 5/15/2002 they refinanced with a $234,000 first mortgage.
  • On 11/5/2002 they refinanced with a $247,000 first mortgage.
  • On 1/31/2003 they refinanced with a $270,000 first mortgage.
  • On 6/1/2004 they obtained a $65,000 HELOC.
  • On 2/8/2006 they refinanced with a $410,000 first mortgage.
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal is at least $232,000.

Irvine Home Address … 13 SPRING BUCK Irvine, CA 92614

Resale Home Price … $749,000

Home Purchase Price … $179,000

Home Purchase Date …. 4/28/1988

Net Gain (Loss) ………. $525,060

Percent Change ………. 293.3%

Annual Appreciation … 6.4%

Cost of Ownership

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$749,000 ………. Asking Price

$149,800 ………. 20% Down Conventional

4.55% …………… Mortgage Interest Rate

$599,200 ………. 30-Year Mortgage

$147,241 ………. Income Requirement

$3,054 ………. Monthly Mortgage Payment

$649 ………. Property Tax

$0 ………. Special Taxes and Levies (Mello Roos)

$125 ………. Homeowners Insurance

$135 ………. Homeowners Association Fees

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$3,963 ………. Monthly Cash Outlays

-$730 ………. Tax Savings (% of Interest and Property Tax)

-$782 ………. Equity Hidden in Payment

$254 ………. Lost Income to Down Payment (net of taxes)

$94 ………. Maintenance and Replacement Reserves

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$2,798 ………. Monthly Cost of Ownership

Cash Acquisition Demands

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$7,490 ………. Furnishing and Move In @1%

$7,490 ………. Closing Costs @1%

$5,992 ………… Interest Points @1% of Loan

$149,800 ………. Down Payment

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$170,772 ………. Total Cash Costs

$42,800 ………… Emergency Cash Reserves

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$213,572 ………. Total Savings Needed

Property Details for 13 SPRING BUCK Irvine, CA 92614

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Beds: 4

Baths: 3 full 1 part baths

Home size: 2,451 sq ft

($306 / sq ft)

Lot Size: 3,024 sq ft

Year Built: 1980

Days on Market: 76

Listing Updated: 40455

MLS Number: S632378

Property Type: Single Family, Residential

Community: Woodbridge

Tract: Ch

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This is a One of a Kind Custom Home in Woodbridge Cottages – Totally remodeled in 1995. 2 Master Bedrooms, one upstairs and the other downstairs and very private. Chef's Kitchen with Granite Counters and Stainless Steel Appliances. Great Room set up includes Family Room, Dining Room and Kitchen all open to each other. Walk In Closet in Upstairs MBR and Recessed Lighting Throughout. Dual Zone A/C and Ceiling Fans Create a Comfortable, Energy Efficient Home. Extra Large Upstairs Laundry Room has Additional Storage. Large Patio with a Built In BBQ on One Side of Home – Storage or a Dog Run on the Other. Walking distance to Shopping, Parks & Award Winning Irvine Schools. No Mello Roos. Standard Sale. This is a Must See!

Totally remodeled in 1995? That was 15 years ago. It probably needs updating again.

Government lacks the will to further manipulate the housing market

One benefit of gridlock in Washington is that our government will be hampered in its ability to meddle in the housing market.

Irvine Home Address … 63 DARTMOUTH 62 Irvine, CA 92612

Resale Home Price …… $430,000

When you try your best, but you don't succeed

When you get what you want, but not what you need

When you feel so tired, but you can't sleep

Stuck in reverse

And the tears come streaming down your face

When you lose something you can't replace

When you love someone, but it goes to waste

Could it be worse?

Lights will guide you home

And ignite your bones

And I will try to fix you

Coldplay — Fix You

Many in Washington believe they can cure the ills in housing if they manipulate conditions enough. The government can pass some law or fail to enforce another to accomplish their ends. Unfortunately, the meddling cures nothing and the crisis drags on while the bureaucrats lament their lack of control over the housing market and push for more. If prices were allowed to crash everywhere like they have in Las Vegas, the groundwork for recovery would be in place. As it stands, we have too much overhanging debt that isn't going to get repaid draining our resources and weakening our economy. When those in Washington think they can fix a problem, their solutions are generally worse than doing nothing at all. Perhaps gridlock will be a good thing?

Morgan Stanley views political will to fix housing as scarce

by JASON PHILYAW — Tuesday, November 23rd, 2010, 4:05 pm

Housing and housing finance present the largest risk to the overall economy, according to Morgan Stanley analysts, who said they were too optimistic last year when they predicted "only a modest recovery in housing" for 2010.

Analysts said there are many options available to fix the nation's "dysfunctional housing and mortgage markets, but the political will to deploy them is scarce."

The analysts suggest additional loan modifications or refinancings, or principal writedowns may help ease the problems facing the industry.

If that is the best that "analysts" can come up with, then I am thrilled that the political will to screw our country up further does not exist.

First, loan modifications are a proven failure. No loan modification program can or will be successful. The problem is not that borrowers cannot make the payments, it is that borrowers have too much debt. Modifying the terms of that debt does not make the real problem go away.

Second, principal writedowns are part of the answer, but this must be done through a foreclosure to avoid moral hazard. Remember, Foreclosure Is a Superior Form of Principal Reduction. If we start writing down principal through debt forgiveness, then borrowers will be strongly incentivized to over-borrow next time because they know that if they get in too much trouble either the bank or the government will bail them out.

Banks have tightened lending standards and there's a shadow inventory of some 8 million units that create a vicious circle, according to Morgan Stanley. And without substantial policy reform, the imbalance won't correct itself for years and home prices may fall another 10% before reaching bottom in 2012, the analysts said.

Most of the people who wrote about the housing bubble before it became commonly accepted fact pointed out the vicious circle of tightening credit and lower prices would go unabated until prices fell below rental parity and buyers had a new reason to participate in the market. Only the amend-extend-pretend policy of the banks coupled with widespread squatting has prevented this inevitable cycle from cleansing the market of its excess debt. The Morgan Stanley analyst is raising this specter as a bogeyman, when in reality, it is exactly what the market needs to correct itself.

Morgan Stanley also said the risk of mortgage putbacks is restricting the supply of credit, as banks are only lending to borrowers with pristine credit and proper housing equity.

If banks want to make money, they should only rent to borrowers with good credit and proper reserves. To suggest otherwise shows how totally clueless our lending industry has become. They are so conditioned to passing the risk off to others that they see any barrier to origination as being an impediment to progress and profit. Our lenders are truly lost.

Still, the analysts expect loan originators to see losses of $85 billion to $165 billion from the putbacks with large-cap banks bearing the burnt of the losses.

Analysts said policymakers should first focus on repairing housing by reducing the supply and demand imbalances and restore market functioning. Then reforms can be implemented "to assure longer-term financial and economic stability."

These "analysts" are complete idiots. They are putting the cart before the horse. For the market to reduce any imbalances between supply and demand, it must be restored to its natural functioning. It doesn't work the other way around. The whole reason we have such imbalances today is because the government is manipulating the market in many ways with the primary goal being to preserve excessive debt and keep prices unnaffordable to a new generation of buyers.

Washington is making the housing crisis even worse

Bad policy and a bad economy make it a terrible time to buy. Instead of pushing cheap credit, Uncle Sam must let the market lower prices.

By Patrick Killelea — November 18, 2010

Our long national bender of house price inflation has finally ended. Now all that remains is for the government to get out of the way and let the housing market sober up completely. Unfortunately, Washington is still tempting Americans to have one more drink – "on the house."

Real value of a house

As I explain on my website, http://patrick.net, the value of a house depends entirely on what it would rent for. It doesn't depend on what you paid for it, or on how much you spent to build it. If you can save money every month by renting the same quality house in a nearby location, then it is foolish to buy at that asking price. The price is just too high.

Rents, in turn, depend on salaries. Try walking into a bank and asking for a loan to pay your rent. You know what the answer will be. So why is it that the bank will lend us vast amounts of money to take out a mortgage and take on expenses that will be much higher than rent for the same place?

Because banks are stupid. If banks were smart, they would never loan money under terms where the payment exceeds the potential rental income. Why is that? Because if they did that, they would have no risk of a loss of cashflow in the event of a foreclosure.

Think about it: if lenders would not have made loans were the payments greatly exceeded potential rental income, then even if 10% or more of borrowers decided to default, the bank could take the property back and rent it out for enough to cover the payment.

In fact, the whole amend-extend-pretend policy would be effective if the banks had kept their loan payment below rental parity. They would have foreclosed on the deadbeats and replaced them with renters who could make the "payments" while the bank searched for a new owner-occupant to buy the house and liberate their tied-up capital.

Because it is profitable to get people into debt. Those profits result in political pressure to pass laws encouraging mortgage debt. For everyone above the buyer on the food chain – from seller to real estate agent to bank to Congress, the White House, and the Federal Reserve – there is a strong interest in getting young and inexperienced families deeply into debt. Once in debt, new buyers, too, become part of the game – they need to find new housing victims if they want to eventually sell at a profit.

Thus we have the mortgage interest deduction, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, the Federal Housing Administration (FHA), and other harmful government programs, all of which serve primarily to increase the amount of mortgage debt. Since most people don't do math very well and will take on as much mortgage debt as they can, this government facilitation simply results in higher house prices.

Higher prices negate any benefit to the buyer – but they do benefit people higher up the food chain. Those profits at the expense of the buyer get funneled into campaign contributions that keep the system in place, or make it even more pernicious.

It sounds like a hokey conspiracy theory, but Patrick's description of the mass collusion among the participants in the housing market is essentially correct.

At some point, the cost of owning shot right past the cost of renting. Owners were losing money, month after month, on a real cash flow basis relative to renting. But they didn't care because they felt rich from the implied increase in their house's value. They could even refinance at the greater valuation implied by "comps" – appraisals or sale prices of similar properties nearby – and pull money out to cover their monthly shortfall.

That worked until it didn't, and America woke up with a dreadful hangover, still ongoing. What's worse is that many powerful financial interests are determined to make sure that we never sober up.

Special interests working against us

Older sellers depend on young families’ getting themselves into debt. Less debt for the young means lower selling prices for the old.

Real estate agents, after years of blathering about how house prices only go up, are finally faced with the incontrovertible reality that house prices also go down. Sales volumes also go down when prices are finally recognized as being too high. The lack of turnover and lower prices directly hurt their commissions.

Banks blew all their depositors’ money on bad mortgage lending, amounts way out of line with salaries. This was fine for them as long as they could get mortgage-backed bond buyers to take the risk off their hands, but the bond buyers got wise, and they don’t want any more of that bad debt. In fact, they want to make the banks buy it back.

The Federal Reserve exists to protect the banks from responsibility for their own bad decisions, at the expense of everyone else, in the name of “financial stability.” So we have the Fed printing cash to buy up those bad mortgage bonds – which weakens everyone’s wealth by inflating the currency – to get the banks off the hook.

Ways to make it better

What should we do?

First, the press should stop characterizing higher house prices as better. Higher house prices are not an "improvement" and lower prices are not a "worsening" of the housing market. Higher house prices are simply inflation, and inflation is bad for buyers.

The president should say that lower housing prices are a wonderful thing for buyers, especially young families. He should point out that lower housing prices are true affordability. Increased mortgage debt is not affordability, just a trap for the unwary.

Why does this issue have no champion? Someone in government will stand up for nearly anything — even stupid ideas have advocates. Why is a government policy that rips off an entire generation of home buyers getting no attention?

Lending regulations should eliminate comps as meaningless. All lending should be based by law on what it would cost to rent the equivalent house. Fannie, Freddie, and FHA lending programs should be stopped immediately, not gradually. It is the hope of lower prices that causes people to delay purchasing. We want to get prices back down below the cost of renting as quickly as possible for the maximum buyer benefit.

People in the Midwest and South should not be forced via their tax dollars to guarantee $729,750 jumbo Fannie and Freddie mortgages for Californians when they cannot get such a guarantee for themselves. The injustice is galling.

Why do we have an increased subsidy in areas with high prices? Isn't the subsidy actually inflating prices? Why do Nebraska taxpayers subsidize California HELOC abusers?

Banks should be heavily fined for leaving foreclosed property empty and deteriorating. Foreclosures don't ruin neighborhoods – empty houses do. If the banks won't take care of their houses quickly, the title should be auctioned off to people who will occupy and take care of them. Yes, even if the auction lowers comps or forces the bank to take a loss.

No mortgage interest deduction

There should be no mortgage interest deduction. Encouraging debt has resulted in disaster. Instead, we should promote savings, and outright ownership without any debt at all, in every generation.

Current owners usually misunderstand their own interests. If they ever want to upgrade, they will benefit more from the falling price on a bigger place than they lose from the falling price on their current place. Owners who want to upgrade should be firmly on the side of lower prices.

There is a feeling of terror that if house prices were allowed to be set by the unmanipulated free market, all consumer spending would stop and a permanent deflation would take hold. That just wouldn't happen. Consumers will always spend on things they need, and deflation will naturally stop at the point where a house is once again cheaper to own than to rent.

The nonsense and fear about lower prices is crazy. Fix the Housing Market: Let Home Prices Fall.

Another pseudo-cashflow property

If you count the appreciation as earned income, Orange County has some great cashflow properties during price rallies. Of course, you can't count appreciation as cashflow because it isn't sustainable, and it takes debt to access it, but many came to believe that appreciation converted to income through mortgage equity withdrawal was a wise way to manage their properties. That's why they are losing them now.

  • The owner of this property paid $243,000 on 12/18/1998. Their mortgage information is not available.
  • On 11/20/1999 this owner got a HELOC for $36,000 and extracted his first positive cashflow… kind of.
  • On 5/31/2001 he refinanced with a $231,000 first mortgage.
  • On 4/16/2002 he obtained a $68,000 HELOC.
  • On 1/23/2004 the got a HELOC for $100,000.
  • On 2/6/2004 he refinanced with a $235,638 first mortgage.
  • On 10/15/2004 he obtained a $150,00 HELOC.
  • On 11/1/2006 he opened a $250,000 HELOC.
  • On 3/12/2007 he refinanced with a $387,800 first mortgage.
  • On 10/10/2007 he obtained a $250,000 HELOC. If he withdrew this money, the property will be a short sale.

With the prospect of future ATM payments being slim, this owner defaulted on his first mortgage.

Foreclosure Record

Recording Date: 10/12/2010

Document Type: Notice of Sale

Foreclosure Record

Recording Date: 06/30/2010

Document Type: Notice of Default

Irvine Home Address … 63 DARTMOUTH 62 Irvine, CA 92612

Resale Home Price … $430,000

Home Purchase Price … $243,000

Home Purchase Date …. 12/18/1998

Net Gain (Loss) ………. $161,200

Percent Change ………. 66.3%

Annual Appreciation … 4.8%

Cost of Ownership

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$430,000 ………. Asking Price

$15,050 ………. 3.5% Down FHA Financing

4.55% …………… Mortgage Interest Rate

$414,950 ………. 30-Year Mortgage

$84,531 ………. Income Requirement

$2,115 ………. Monthly Mortgage Payment

$373 ………. Property Tax

$0 ………. Special Taxes and Levies (Mello Roos)

$72 ………. Homeowners Insurance

$295 ………. Homeowners Association Fees

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$2,854 ………. Monthly Cash Outlays

-$341 ………. Tax Savings (% of Interest and Property Tax)

-$541 ………. Equity Hidden in Payment

$26 ………. Lost Income to Down Payment (net of taxes)

$54 ………. Maintenance and Replacement Reserves

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$2,051 ………. Monthly Cost of Ownership

Cash Acquisition Demands

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$4,300 ………. Furnishing and Move In @1%

$4,300 ………. Closing Costs @1%

$4,150 ………… Interest Points @1% of Loan

$15,050 ………. Down Payment

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$27,800 ………. Total Cash Costs

$31,400 ………… Emergency Cash Reserves

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$59,200 ………. Total Savings Needed

Property Details for 63 DARTMOUTH 62 Irvine, CA 92612

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Beds: 3

Baths: 1 full 2 part baths

Home size: 1,524 sq ft

($282 / sq ft)

Lot Size: n/a

Year Built: 1981

Days on Market: 83

Listing Updated: 40507

MLS Number: P751647

Property Type: Condominium, Residential

Community: University Town Center

Tract: Cc

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According to the listing agent, this listing may be a pre-foreclosure or short sale.

This home is bright & cheerful and has many upgrades. The home offers 3 beds, 3 baths, vaulted ceilings, formal living room, fireplace, wooden floors, upgraded kitchen & baths and much more. Location offers the finest schools and shopping and easy access to freeways.