Living on the Edge — Aerosmith
There’s somethin’ wrong with the world today
The light bulb’s gettin’ dim
There’s meltdown in the sky
Fringe markets are those regions where properties are less desirable due to proximity to large employment centers. These markets develop as people are priced-out of the more desirable markets closer to work. Eventually, employment centers also migrate to these fringe market areas, and development pushes even further into the wilds.
When Irvine was first developed, it was a fringe market. The primary employment centers were in the LA basin, and those who bought in Irvine commuted to these far-away employment centers. As Orange County continued to develop, it became a strong employment center of its own.
There are still fringe markets even in Orange County. San Clemente and Rancho Santa Margarita are examples. There is limited employment in these sub-markets, and people commute to employment centers.
Fringe markets have characteristically volatile house prices. People only live in fringe markets because they are priced-out of more desirable areas, so when prices drop in the better areas, people leave fringe markets, and prices really plummet.
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Proximity to employment is not the only defining characteristic of a fringe market. Even within primary markets like Irvine, we have fringe neighborhoods that experience greater price volatility because they are undesirable for other reasons. One such neighborhood in Irvine is Columbus Grove.
Columbus Grove was developed at the peak of the housing bubble, and it was overpriced from the beginning. The continuing activity of the builders coupled with the ubiquitous toxic financing has resulted in many home sales of the must-sell variety. This created a nasty downward spiral in prices.
Columbus Grove also suffers from its proximity to powerlines, underground toxic waste, a nearby cement factory, and other elements which make it less desirable. The combination of inflated prices, huge numbers of must-sell homes, and low desirability has caused prices to absolutely crater.
Every single homeowner there has a property worth less than the paid for it, and the vast majority are hopelessly underwater on their mortgages.
Tell me what you think about your sit-u-a-tion
Complication – aggravation
Is getting to you
Actually, conditions like these make for ideal places for vultures to be active. When we do reach the bottom, the best deals will be in neighborhoods like this one. Unfortunately for the flipper who owns today’s featured property, we are not at the bottom.
If chicken little tells you that the sky is fallin’
Even if it wasn’t would you still come crawlin’
Back again?
I bet you would my friend
Again & again & again & again & again
Income Requirement: $174,750
Downpayment Needed: $139,800
Monthly Equity Burn: $5,825
Original Purchase Price: $800,000
Original Purchase Date: 11/28/2006
Flip Purchase Price: $479,774
Flip Purchase Date: 10/30/2008
Address: 78 Fringe Tree, Irvine, CA 92606
Beds: | 4 |
Baths: | 3 |
Sq. Ft.: | 2,685 |
$/Sq. Ft.: | $260 |
Lot Size: | – |
Property Type: | Condominium |
Style: | Other |
Year Built: | 2006 |
Stories: | 3+ |
Floor: | 2 |
View: | Park or Green Belt |
Area: | Columbus Grove |
County: | Orange |
MLS#: | P665053 |
Source: | SoCalMLS |
Status: | Active |
On Redfin: | 31 days |
Exquisite Kensington Court Luxury Townhome. Built in 2006. 2-Car
Attached Direct Access Garage. Private Front Fenced Patio. Home
Features 3 Bedrooms and 2 Full Bathrooms on Third Level, Includinga 30′
x 21′ Master Bedroom with Huge Walk In Closet, Large Master Bathroom
with Roman Tub, Separate Shower and Dual Vanities. Main Floor has
Bedroom and 1.75 Bathrooms. Separate Family Room on 2nd Floor with
Beautiful Wood Floors. Washer & Dryer Hook Ups are on Bedroom
Level. Ceramic Tile Floors in Kitchen, Dining Room and Living Room.
Living Room also has Alot of Windows and a Cozy Fireplace. Upgraded
Gourmet Kitchen with Stainless Steel Appliances, Stainless Sink,
Granite Countertops and Island. Association Amenities Include Pools,
Spa, Park with Tot Lot, Outdoor BBQ and Lounge Area. This is Truly a
Remarkable Area with Lots of Amenities.
Notice how much more detailed and cared about the description is when people think they are going to make money on the deal.
What Is With Title Case?
This is Truly a
Remarkable Area. Yes, the price drops have been truly remarkable here…
If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the flipper stands to make $177,286. It certainly looks like there is some room to negotiate…
What is interesting about this property is the impact it is having on the neighbors. Imagine you were a buyer in this neighborhood in 2006. Then you see an REO go for 40% less than you paid 2 years ago. It must be very disheartening.
But wait! the new owner is asking a more reasonable market price. Perhaps you didn’t lose $320,000 after all, perhaps you are only down $100,000. Can you see how this little property has taken the neighborhood from despair to delight? Oh, but there is more…
What is it Worth?
Those high HOA fees are a killer
P.S. I notified the forum of my writing of this post yesterday. I received the following email:
“I see that you are planning to try to attack me personally again, by means of showing a distressed sale in my neighborhood. I would expect nothing less of you. I really don’t know where you get off, with your bottomless pit of arrogance and general spitefulness. You explained to me privately two years ago that it is your “persona” who is the one being so obnoxious, and that you personally don’t have any/all answers. I never revealed that conversation, even though I could have, and respected you enough to let it be. I never once attacked you after that, despite any accusations of the same. I am happy that it gives you so much pleasure to see me hurt financially. Congratulations, you have got your fondest wish. Both my husband and I, and everyone else we (and you) know (both homeowners and not) are suffering. You clearly have your opinions on the cause, as do I, but only you are allowed the freedom to express them, apparently.”
No, I will allow you to express your opinion too…
“It is too late for me to participate in any general forums, due to the unending belligerence I have had to suffer through, and any comments on 78 Fringe Tree will bring nothing but personal attacks, as is your intention. For every person you feel you have helped, I feel you have harmed another…I genuinely do. I think you have convinced yourself that everyone who owns a home has intentionally harmed you, and I find that (thinking) a fate worse than being wiped-out. Come what may, I will carry on with my life. I am proud beyond measure with who I am and what I stand for. I am only interested in lifting others up.“
I know I feel very uplifted…
As for the statement, “I never once attacked you after that,” how about this little gem, “I don’t think Irvine Renter is really capable of an honest discussion.
In fact, I firmly believe he exhibits some of the characteristics of a
sociopath. This issue has certainly brought out the vilest aspects in
all of us. That may be the saddest part of all.” Or perhaps this one, “This is no first-time homebuyer crying out for fairness. This is a
self-serving greedy bastard, who doesn’t care how much damage happens
to others, or the economy in general. What they care about is lining
their own pockets, period.”
Do you feel the love?
Due to our policy at the Irvine Housing Blog, I will not share the name or email address of the correspondent.
The astute observations should be interesting today…
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There’s somethin’ wrong with the world today
I don’t know what it is
Something’s wrong with our eyes
We’re seeing things in a different way
And God knows it ain’t His
It sure ain’t no surprise
We’re livin’ on the edge
We’re livin’ on the edge
We’re livin’ on the edge
We’re livin’ on the edge
There’s somethin’ wrong with the world today
The light bulb’s gettin’ dim
There’s meltdown in the sky
If you can judge a wise man
By the color of his skin
Then mister you’re a better man that I
We’re livin’ on the edge
You can’t help yourself from fallin’
Livin’ on the edge
You can’t help yourself at all
Livin’ on the edge
You can’t stop yourself from fallin’
Livin’ on the edge
Tell me what you think about your sit-u-a-tion
Complication – aggravation
Is getting to you
If chicken little tells you that the sky is fallin’
Even if it wasn’t would you still come crawlin’
Back again?
I bet you would my friend
Again & again & again & again & again
Living on the Edge — Aerosmith