Monthly Archives: September 2008

$1,000,000 REO

The Long and Winding Road — The Beatles

The course of a financial market, particularly the real estate market, is a long and winding road full of twists and turns and unexpected outcomes. It was certainly foreseeable that banks and builders might fail and the GSEs might need to be bailed out, but the how and when of these occurrences are always unpredictable and newsworthy.

We have all seen this road before. This is the third real estate bubble in California since the 1970s. Each one seems to reverberate causing the next one to be even larger and more painful than the last. The drop in prices always leads to the market entry door of affordability. It is possible that history may not repeat itself for a third time, but this seems unlikely. There was good reason for prices to retreat to this level: it doesn’t make much sense to overpay for a depreciating asset. There doesn’t seem to be any reason this will not happen again (wishful thinking by those who do not want it to happen is not a reason).

You would think that million dollar REOs would be very rare. Aren’t $1,000,000 homes the exclusive enclaves of the rich and famous. The many pretenders who paid more than $1,000,000 for tract homes in Irvine would undoubtedly like you to think so, but most of these houses were purchased by high-income (or high stated-income) individuals and families utilizing exotic financing. Irvine may have been the center of the subprime lending universe, but it was the also the center of the Alt-A borrowing universe. Very few of the loans issued in Irvine were conforming loans because during the bubble rally, the cap was far too low to be a viable financing alternative (good thing for the GSEs and taxpayers who do not have much exposure here). Also, since people in Irvine do not make the money necessary to support home prices — particularly peak prices — many, if not most, of the loans were stated-income, liar loans. In order to get the monthly cost down to manageable levels, many borrowers used Option ARM loans and have only been making the teaser-rate payment. In short, most of the loans issued in Irvine were Alt-A and jumbo loans. It is not a matter of if these loans will blow up, it is only a matter of when.

50 Winding Way Front 50 Winding Way Kitchen

Asking Price: $1,175,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $293,750

Downpayment Needed: $235,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $9,791

Purchase Price: $1,360,000

Purchase Date: 6/23/2006

Address: 50 Winding Way, Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 5
Baths: 4
Sq. Ft.: 3,500
$/Sq. Ft.: $336
Lot Size: 5,968

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Other
Year Built: 2006
Stories: 2 Levels
Area: Woodbury
County: Orange
MLS#: S547214
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 3 days

Beautiful two story home in Irvine. This home features 5 spacious
bedrooms, 4 bathrooms, a kitchen with granite counter tops and an
island, a living room with a fireplace, a formal dining room,
individual laundry room, wood flooring, an enclosed patio, and corner
location. Home has access to the wonderful association amenities. Truly
a MUST SEE!!

Here is today’s challenge. Identify the objects in the picture of the kitchen and speculate on how each of these objects ended up there…

Today’s property was purchased by the Bank of America through Wells Fargo for $1,076,882. I don’t know why both banks are involved. The original first mortgage balance was $1,000,000 but with the skipped payments added on, the balance due on the date of the auction was the amount paid. There were two HELOCs for $223,600 and $100,000 respectively. It is unclear whether or not either one of these HELOCs was used. If not, the original owners lost $360,000, so it is likely that these two HELOCs were used to extract their equity. If this property sells for its asking wishing price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss on the property will be $255,500. It looks as if the lenders will absorb most of this, and the actual loss will probably be quite a bit larger as they discount this property to sell it.

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The long and winding road
That leads to your door
Will never disappear
Ive seen that road before
It always leads me her
Lead me to you door

The wild and windy night
That the rain washed away
Has left a pool of tears
Crying for the day
Why leave me standing here
Let me know the way

Many times Ive been alone
And many times Ive cried
Any way youll never know
The many ways Ive tried

But still they lead me back
To the long winding road
You left me standing here
A long long time ago
Dont leave me waiting here
Lead me to your door

But still they lead me back
To the long winding road
You left me standing here
A long long time ago
Dont leave me waiting here
Lead me to your door
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

The Long and Winding Road — The Beatle

Open Thread 9-13-2008

I am in the final stage of the publication process. I will be receiving my proof from the publisher this week. Once I approve it, the book will be available through the publisher’s website. Shortly thereafter, it will be available on Amazon.com.

I would give you a teaser of the content, but you have already seen most of it. It is scattered throughout this website in the various analysis posts. The readers and commenters on the IHB were instrumental in making this book possible. The daily feedback on the ideas and the presentation of opposing views has forged this work into an exhaustive review of the housing bubble. Thank you, thank you all.

If the sun refused to shine, I would still be loving you.
When mountains crumble to the sea, there will still be you and me.

Kind woman, I give you my all, Kind woman, nothing more.

Little drops of rain whisper of the pain, tears of loves lost in the days gone by.
My love is strong, with you there is no wrong,
together we shall go until we die. My, my, my.
An inspiration is what you are to me, inspiration, look… see.

And so today, my world it smiles, your hand in mine, we walk the miles,
Thanks to you it will be done, for you to me are the only one.
Happiness, no more be sad, happiness….I’m glad.
If the sun refused to shine, I would still be loving you.
When mountains crumble to the sea, there will still be you and me.

Thank You — Led Zeppelin

So who is going to go under first, WAMU or Lehman? Will either one of them survive the week?

What do you think is going to happen now that the government owns Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae?

You must admit, we live in interesting times. Major financial institutions are imploding or being bailed out by the government. It isn’t something you see every day…

Big Wedge

Big Wedge — Fish

Are we selling out tomorrow for today? The takeover of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae has opened the door for a massive government bailout. Since we are already running a large budget deficit, any bailout would be debt financed. As such, we are borrowing from future tax receipts to pay today for the sins of lenders, speculators and others who foolishly bought more house than they could afford.

The whole mortgage market bailout is yet another false hope for troubled homeowners. The bulls are somehow convinced that the problem of insolvency can be rectified through even more borrowing. People have too much debt already. That is the problem. Giving them more is not the answer. I believe you are going to see two things happen with the government in control: 1. There will be more workouts and refinancing of existing debt. 2. Credit standards will continue to tighten and interest rates and fees will continue to rise for new mortgages. There is not much the government can do with the existing toxic loans it must now make good on. It will do what workouts it can, and it will foreclose on the rest. It has a great deal of control over the new mortgages it writes going forward. It seems unlikely to me that the government would suddenly embrace all the practices that proved so disastrous during the bubble in order to prop up prices. It is one thing to minimize the losses you have, it is quite another to create new losses through foolish lending practices.

The cynics (and the bulls) believe the government will lower credit standards and write a plethora of new bad loans simply to support current price levels. This would amount to a huge, direct government subsidy to homeowners. The Government is stupid, and they do have political pressures to deal with, but they are not that stupid. Right now the focus is on limiting the damage and letting the bubble unwind without losing the secondary mortgage market causing a complete seizure of our credit markets. The government is not concerned with resale house values in Irvine, California. Everyone knows prices must come down, the only issue is how can this occur with the least amount of disruption to our financial system. Prices will stabilize, they will just do so at a much lower price level — A price level supportable by incomes where the borrowers are solvent and not prone to default on their loans.

Today’s featured property is a short sale that has been garnering a lot of attention in Northwood. Apparently there are multiple offers. After 47 days on the market, I guess everyone just discovered it… Or perhaps the realtors are lying…

10 Wedgewood Kitchen

Asking Price: $525,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $131,250

Downpayment Needed: $105,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $4,375

Purchase Price: $720,000

Purchase Date: 6/17/2004

Address: 10 Wedgewood, Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 3
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,561
$/Sq. Ft.: $336
Lot Size: 4,096

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Contemporary
Year Built: 1997
Stories: 2 Levels
Area: Northwood
County: Orange
MLS#: S541612
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 47 days

Upgraded Wood Floor throughout, Wooden Shutters in Master Bedroom and
Living Room. Excellent Location at the End of Cul De Sac! Walking
Distance to Elementary School. Move in condition in Fabulouse Gated
Community….

Fabulouse?

This is a deep rollback of a 2004 price: 27%. We have been seeing many properties almost 30% off the peak, but nearly 30% off a 2004 price is more rare. Is it a bargain? Would it rent for $3,281? It may not be far from breakeven for an owner-occupant. I can remember seeing nearby comparable property for rent in early 2007 for $2,800 (on Bristlecone), so I don’t think we are quite down to rental parity, but this one is certainly closer to the bottom than to the top.

This was a conservative speculation by recent blog standards. The woman who bought this as her sole and separate property paid $720,000 on 6/27/2004. She used a $576,000 first mortgage, a $72,000 second and a $72,000 downpayment. There were no refinances. If this property sells for its asking price, the total loss will be $226,500. The seller will lose her $72,000 downpayment, and the lender will lose the remaining $154,500.

I hope you have enjoyed this week at the Irvine Housing Blog. Come back next week as we
continue chronicling ‘the seventh circle of real estate hell.’ Have a great weekend.

🙂

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I found a new religion yesterday, I’d just cleared immigration jfk
A priest got in a cadillac, the shoe shine boy sang gospel
As God and his accountants drove away.
You’ll see him coast to coast on live tv, in a stadium
Rocked by satan just the night before
The collection from the faithful is tax free
It’ll pay for his presidential campaign and his yacht

And we all bow down, we bow down to the big wedge
And we’ll buy ourselves some heaven on earth
We sell our souls, sell our souls for big wedge
Are we selling out tomorrow for today?

A surgeon checks your plastic on the telephone
A casio concerto entertains you while you hold
Your credit rating’s good for a madonna or a bardot
A dali or a picasso for his wall.

You’re looking good, looking good with big wedge
Are you holding back tomorrow for today?
They’re driving in, driving in with big wedge
Are we selling out tomorrow for today?


Big Wedge
— Fish

Mandrake

Mandrake Root — Deep Purple

You have the power. It is A Buyer’s Market. Did you ever think you would see properties under $200/SF again? How about $162/SF? Today’s featured property caused one commenter yesterday to opine, “This must be bottom.” Is it? The price drops have been so dramatic and come so fast on many properties that people can’t get their mind around the valuations. A property selling for 26% off its peak purchase price of just two years ago seems cheap. When viewed through the lens of 2006 prices, it is. However, when viewed through from the perspective of fundamental valuations, a property like today’s featured property is still overpriced. People did not put much effort into understanding prices when they were rising, after all, prices always go up — not. People assume that market prices are fair value and any discount from that price a bargain. When viewed from a broader perspective of valuations based on rents and incomes, the degree of price inflation becomes clear, and the amount prices have yet to fall also becomes apparent. Today’s featured property is probably closer to the bottom than to the top, but at $559,900, it still requires a rental rate of $3,500 a month to reach a breakeven threshold for an owner-occupant. Does this look like a $3,500 a month property to you?

3 Mandrake Kitchen

Asking Price: $559,900IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $139,975

Downpayment Needed: $111,980

Monthly Equity Burn: $4,665

Purchase Price: $760,000

Purchase Date: 2/9/2006

Address: 3 Mandrake, Irvine, CA 92612

Beds: 4
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 3,448
$/Sq. Ft.: $162
Lot Size: 3,200

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Traditional
Year Built: 1967
Stories: Split-Level
View: Park or Green Belt
Area: University Park
County: Orange
MLS#: S546847
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 1 day

New Listing (24 hours)

One of the largest 4 bedroom homes in University Park with some great
features……..includes a fancy spiral staircase, large livingroom
separate family room, formal dining and added den. If you like to
entertain you have to see this house………separate but open and
flowing rooms. Don’t forget to take a look at the kitchen……and the
view!!! This home is in a great location surrounded by greenbelts and
overlooks a park. Walking distance to the association pools, spa,
tennis courts, basketball courts, volley ball courts and racquet ball
courts.

Fancy spiral staircase? It looks like it was recycled off a naval ship.

Apparently, they really like their pool table… and their dog…

Why is there a giant flat screen in the corner of the dining room?

I think they bought out the local Persian Rug store.

The stool prominently displayed in the kitchen is a nice touch as well. Why would you put a stool there?

They definitely have some serious computing power. I can’t criticize it too much as I have a similar setup…

With the way they raved about the view, you would think the Pacific Ocean was out back…

This property was purchased on 2/9/2206 for $760,000. The owner used a $608,000 first mortgage, a $76,000 HELOC and a $76,000 downpayment. On 10/22/2006 he refinanced with a $675,000 Option ARM and opened a HELOC for $135,000 raising his total debt to $810,000. $50,000 for 8 months ownership: not bad. Of course, now that values have dropped, he is leaving the lender holding the bag. If this sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, Paul Financial LLC stands to lose $283,694. The owner will walk away with his $50,000. Perhaps the new buyer can go borrow from Peter to pay off Paul…

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I’ve got a Mandrake Root
It’s some thunder in my brain
I feed it to my babe
She thunders just the same
Food of love sets her flame
Ah, stick it up

I’ve got the Mandrake Root
Baby’s just the same
She still feels a quiver
She’s still got the flame
She slows down, slows right down
I’ve got the power

Mandrake Root — Deep Purple

29% Off and Falling

Sky Starts Falling — Doves

Is the sky really falling? I guess it depends on whether or not you associate falling real estate prices with the end of the world. Real estate prices are falling, and they will continue to do so until prices are affordable again. With all of the talk about stabilizing the housing market, people overlook the benefits of affordable housing. If people can live in a property and only spend 28% of their income on it, they have money left over for other uses. The economy will benefit from lower prices as discretionary consumer spending will increase. Of course, if you believe in perpetual Ponzi Scheme financing, we can always fuel our economy on ever-increasing debt loads justified by inflated real estate values. However, we just tried that, and so far the results haven’t been too encouraging. We grossly misappropriated resources to non-productive uses, we overbuilt home improvement shopping centers, and we employed too many people in real estate related professions. The inevitable collapse of the Ponzi Scheme has left us deeply in debt, with an insolvent banking system, and with an economic recession. It will take many years for the California economy to readjust from the housing bubble just as it did in the early and mid 90s. The allocation of resources must change, and it will not be a pleasant process. I hope the California economy that emerges is rooted in something productive rather than another unsustainable Ponzi Scheme.

Today’s featured property is another loser in our real estate game of musical chairs. When the music stopped, today’s owner had taken out all the equity and left the lender is without a chair.

10 Orangetip Kitchen

Asking Price: $499,900IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $124,975

Downpayment Needed: $99,980

Monthly Equity Burn: $4,165

Purchase Price: $699,000

Purchase Date: 4/13/2006

Address: 10 Orangetip, Irvine, CA 92604

Beds: 3
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,785
$/Sq. Ft.: $280
Lot Size: 2,568

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Contemporary
Year Built: 2006
Stories: 2 Levels
Area: El Camino Real
County: Orange
MLS#: P654243
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 7 days

SHORT SALE Model perfect home in the heart of Irvine. Highly upgraded
home with wood floors, two toned paint, custom banisters, designer
carpet, granite, stone and shutters. Upstairs masters has a retreat and
oversized dressing room, walk-in closet and nicely appointed bath.
Backyard has a great patio perfect for entertaining. Neighborhood has
no mello roos, low tax rate and close to everything. In the much sought
after Irvine High School disrtict. Close to shopping, parks, and
freeways. Association includes pools, spa, and tennis courts.

Do you like the $499,900? Why not $499,999.99 and 9/10. If you are going to price like a used car dealership or a gas station, why not go all the way?

Highly upgraded? As opposed to lightly upgraded? Or just upgraded? Or perhaps downgraded? Maybe flippers will start tearing out the good stuff and putting in the junk you see in mobile homes…

How do you like the patio “perfect for entertaining?” I thought I was looking at the grounds of Versailles.

This property was purchased on 4/13/2006 fir $699,000. The owner used a $534,171 first mortgage, a $142,445 second, and a $22,304 downpayment. He refinanced on 5/1/2007 with a $588,000 first mortgage and a $110,100 HELOC effectively pulling out all but $900 of his downpayment. He is now offering it for sale at 29% less than his purchase price. Assuming this short sale is approved, a buyer is found at this price, and a 6% commission is paid, the total loss on the property will be $229,094. Taylor Bean & Witaker Mortgage Corporation will lose on the first mortgage, and Citibank will lose their HELOC money.

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Who am I supposed to be?
I can’t be sure that the next one will see me

And if the sky starts falling on the street outside
The only thing that satisfies
If the sky starts falling on the heads outside
The only thing that keeps me alive

If you see her again, be sure to say hello
Be sure to send my love
Did she seem like before
Could you seem above it all
Be sure to send my love

Wake up, waking up to see
It’s a sign
That what will be will be

And if the sky starts falling on the street outside
The only thing that satisfies
If the sky starts falling on the heads outside
The only thing that keeps me alive

Sky Starts Falling — Dove