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Tips for leasing an IAC apartment

The IHB Forums are a great resource and there are many solid contributions being made there every day. Some of you have been hanging out there for well over a year and a half. 😉 If you haven’t stopped by, check it out. Recently, we had a new member, Cuatro, join the forums. He created a topic on Tips for leasing an IAC apartment. There is some great advice there so I thought I’d put it up on the blog for the weekend post:

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Tips for leasing an IAC apartment:

Leasing Consultants (LCs) are NOT the enemy. Rather than viewing them
like other sales people, consider the following. The typical IAC
Leasing Consultant has zero interest in the amount of rent you pay for
your apartment. They are paid on a tier system that rewards the number
of leases they get signed per month…period. They will usually do
anything in their power to get you the best deal, because at the end of
the day, your signature on a $1200 studio pays the same as your
signature on a $3000 3×2. Their first and foremost priority is to fill
their property. (As an interesting aside, IAC LCs make between $32k
and roughly $85k per year…the primary difference is volume).

Visit the property when you are ready to make your decision. Never
give the impression that you won’t reserve an apartment on that first
visit. The sooner you tell them you are ready to move, the more likely
you are to get the best deal. NEVER say you are looking to move 45+
days from now. As a general rule, the best deals are on vacant
apartments. Vacant apartments must be moved into within 2 weeks. If
you are looking to move more than 2 weeks out, you are automatically
going to be offered apartments that are “on notice” with other
residents currently living in them. Discounts on these apartments are
rare and always significantly worse than vacant apartment specials.

Leasing teams are evaluated on a weekly and monthly basis. Many
times the best deals are found at the end of a week or month as they
try to wedge in those last minute deals.

IAC Considers the high season from March – August. But specials
tend to be directly based on the property’s availability and occupancy
for the particular week.

Know your market rent:

There are a few ways to go about this. You can check a property’s
rental-living.com website which lists market prices on available
apartments. But the easiest way is to just ask the leasing
consultant. Think of the market rent as the suggested retail price.
It’s your starting point and any discount you receive will be a
percentage of that original market price.

Know your discounts and specials:

IAC does not tend to lower market rents…ever. But they DO tend to
offer deeper and deeper discounts from those market prices to find the
sweet spot that their apartments rent at. Once a property reaches and
maintains occupancy/availability goals, discounts can evaporate
entirely.

Rent Discounts(Dependent on occupancy and availability): 3, 5, 7, even 10% discounts off market rents.

Concessions (Dependent on occupancy and availability): $250, $500,
$1000, half month, first month free, etc. Rent credits toward move in
costs. Often these are listed on a property’s rental-living website.
But always ask the LC if there is anything better. Some properties may
offer $500 off on 1 beds, but $1000 off on two beds. It is not unheard
of to be able to negotiate that $1000 on your 1 bed if you are willing
to hold the apartment on that visit.

First Visit Special (Always available): Save $100 off standard
security deposit when you hold an apartment on your first visit to the
property. Note that this will only be offered if your credit qualifies
you for the standard security deposit (standard deposits as follows:
$600 for studios and 1 beds, $700 for 2 beds, $800 for 3 beds, etc…).

Auto Debit Special (Always available): Sign up for the auto debit
program allowing them to take rent from your bank account at the
beginning of each month and save $200 off your security deposit
(regardless of the amount of deposit required from you).

Resident/Agent Referrals (Always available): These are “source of
business referrals” which typically cannot be stacked with other source
of business referrals and are not paid to you but someone else. You
must list on your guest card and on your applications how you heard
about the property. If it’s a current resident of the property you are
moving in to that referred you, that person can receive anywhere from
$300-$500 depending on the property. RE Agents can usually receive
$300. Listing the IAC info center as the referral source or using a
website coupon will often negate all other “source of business”
referral fees. I discourage you from trying to find someone on
Craigslist offering to be your referral. More often than not those
people have already been fished out by management and, even if they
don’t know it, are no longer eligible to receive referral fees.

Creative Specials (commonly offered at lease up properties but very
rarely advertised): Some communities have common rooms that can be
rented. Ask your LC for 6 hours use of the club room or maybe an
additional parking space. Perhaps there is additional storage on site
for rent that you can have thrown in.

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Techniques for “Negotiation”

As mentioned above, you’re never really in heated negotiation with
an IAC LC. Their goals and yours tend to be in alignment. The one
thing they don’t want to see is you walking out the door.

Develop a friendly rapport with the LC. If you walk in the door with
the idea that you’re going to walk all over them and impose your will
during “negotiations” your LC will be far less motivated to help you
get the incredible deal you want. Smile, laugh, ask them about their
job, how they like it, what they want to do down the road, how they
chose to become an LC. Invest a little time getting to know them and
make them WANT to help you get the best deal.

Don’t bring up the 1st visit special, the auto debit deal, or the
referral fees until you and the LC have established the discount and
possible stacked concession. Focus on finding out what the current
discount is and if the property is stacking a concession with it.
Sometimes they have stacking incentives, a lot of times they don’t.
But the Auto Debit,1st visit specials, and referral fees can almost
always be tacked on to a deal at the end.

To be sure you’ve gotten the best deal, let the LC know you really like
the place and you’re soooo close to signing papers RIGHT NOW. Ask them
if there’s ANYTHING else they can offer. Encourage them to ask their
supervisor if they can do anything more. Give them the impression that
if they cannot find a way to sweeten the deal any further, you’re going
to check out another property and get back to them. Mention The
Village, Villa Siena, The Enclave, or the most recent IAC lease up to
make the LC uncomfortable. These properties are either the richest in
amenities or are lease ups offering decent incentives. At this point
if there is anything else they can offer, they will. If they’ve
already offered “the kitchen sink,” they will reluctantly let you walk
away and you’ve found the bottom line best deal at the moment. A great
IAC deal would look something like this:

7% rent discount

$1000 off 1st month

$400 friend referral

$200 auto debit

$100 first visit

(you may also be able to get all this on a shorter lease term when normally they only offer it on a full 12 month agrement)

Some Other Final Thoughts

Everyone loves finding the best deal. But always be wary of that
market rent. The deeper your discount is below the market rent the
more likely you are to see a triple digit rent increase when your lease
is up.

I’ve used a lot of words like, “usually”, “tend to”, “almost always”
to stress to the point that none of this can be viewed as absolute.
Different properties/managers behave differently. Some are more
liberal with discounts and exceptions than others. But in general you
should be able to gather some useful information here. Even if IAC has
an established practice that managers are not to deviate
from…sometimes they do and unless you’re willing to go to war over
that additional $200 incentive, sometimes you just have to accept it.

Recently IAC changed its qualification practice. For most leases they
no longer require proof of income or verification of employment.
Instead they decided to increase security deposits $100 across the
board and as far as I know they no longer waive application fees. They
still require you to qualify on the monthly income minimum of 2.7x the
rental amount…but as long as credit isn’t a huge problem, it looks
like they just “take your word for it” when it comes to the income and
employer you write on your application.

It’s never a bad idea to write glowing letters of appreciation about
staff you’ve had good encounters with. Usually hand deliver them to
the office or even ask management whom you can email at the corporate
level to share your praise. The more you can be remembered as “that
friendly resident who says nice things about us” the more likely you
are to have your maintenance requests handled quickly, your renewal
negotiations to go smoothly, and receive all the other pleasant
intangibles.

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Thank you Cuatro for the great post! Please continue further discussion by following the link below:

GSEs and Interest Rates

Joy to the World — Three Dog Night

If I were the king of the world; Tell you what I’d do… I’d throw away the loans and the moans and the unknowns; Make home sweet home for you…

When I started writing for this blog, part of my drive was emptying my Reservoir of Schadenfruede. It has grown beyond that, and I appreciate all the people who thank me for convincing them to wait and saving them a great deal of money. I am not a pessimistic or bearish person by nature, and I would rather everyone experience the joy of living rather than the pain and stress of the collapse of an epic financial bubble. However, I am a realist who is willing to face the truth come what may. The truth is prices have fallen, and they will continue to do so. The government may be able to ease the transition to lower prices and borrower solvency by keeping interest rates low for a time. However, sub-6% mortgage interest rates will not be available forever, and after a big push to restructure and refinance existing borrowers out of their bad loans (that may be mandated,) market pressures will cause a gradual rise in long-term rates.

Mortgage interest rates are a combination of the risk-free rate, the inflation premium, and the risk premium. Risk premiums during the bubble were artificially low. If they weren’t, our banking system would not be in trouble, and the bailout of the GSEs would not have been necessary. When the government took over the GSEs, they knowingly took on the investment risk in order to control the risk premium in the open market. This allows them to keep rates artificially low during the upcoming restructure period (I am of the opinion that the government took control of the GSEs to rid the market of toxic paper through a combination of low interest rate refinancing and foreclosure). Government ownership of the GSEs is not going to be a permanent condition, unless of course the government wants to be the defacto subsidized mortgage insurer of the country forever. At some point, the government will want to get out of the mortgage insurance business, particularly since it will not be profitable. Risk premiums will rise to market when the government moves to get out of the business. Three to five years from now, I would look for the government to spin off the GSEs once again (they did this first in the early 70s). I doubt it will take that long for mortgage interest rates to rise again, so if you ever thought about refinancing, now is the time.

Just in case you needed a reminder of what caused this problem, today’s featured property was purchased with an Option ARM with a 1.5% teaser rate. Restructuring this borrower into a mortgage they could afford would require a very low interest rate and likely some significant principal reduction. Since this is well outside of the parameters for a reasonable restructuring, and since this wasn’t a GSE insured loan, it is another foreclosure-in-waiting.

53 Del Cambria Front 53 Del Cambria Kitchen

Asking Price: $549,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $137,250

Downpayment Needed: $109,800

Monthly Equity Burn: $4,575

Purchase Price: $660,000

Purchase Date: 7/19/2004

Address: 53 Del Cambria, Irvine, CA 92606

Beds: 3
Baths: 2.5
Sq. Ft.: 1,777
$/Sq. Ft.: $309
Lot Size:
Property Type Detached, Single Family Residence
Year Built: 1994
Stories: 2 Level
County: Orange
MLS#: I08045684
Source: MRMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 174 days

Unsold in 90+ days

BACK ON THE MARKET. .. .COUNTRYWIDE SAID BRING THEM THE BEST OFFER. ..
.. SHORT SALE PACKAGE ALREADY SUBITTED TO LENDERS. LENDER ORDERED BPO
ALREADY. .SHORT ESCROW. .. .. SHORT SALE. .. SUBJECT TO LENDER
APPROVAL. .. .BEAUTIFUL HOME IN THE PRESTIGIOUS IRVINE. .. ..
CONVENIENTLY LOCATED NEAR FRWY, SCHOOL AND SHOPPING CENTER. .. .CUSTOM
TITLE FLOOR, GRANITE COUNTER TOP. .. .. THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN
UP-GRADES. .. .. .MUST SEE TO APPRECIATE

For any of you wondering why I chose Three Dog Night today…

ALL CAPS

An ellipsis is three consecutive periods. I have no idea what form of punctuation is displayed above.

This property was purchased on 7/19/2004 for $660,000. The owner utilized a $500,000 loan and a $160,000 downpayment. On 3/24/2006 he took out a $220,000 second mortgage and withdrew his equity downpayment plus an additional $60,000. On 7/14/2006, he refinanced with a $640,000 Option ARM with a 1.5% teaser rate, and opened a HELOC for $80,000. The total debt on the property is $720,000 plus any accumulated negative amortization, and the total mortgage equity withdrawal is $220,000 including his downpayment.

Is it fair to include his downpayment in the mortgage equity withdrawal? Well, unless he is going to give it back to the lender, he got his money without selling the property, so IMO it should count. If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss on the property will be $203,940. PMC Bancorp’s loan (now being administered by Countrywide) will see a significant loss. Perhaps that 100% cash-out refinancing was not such a good idea.

I hope you have enjoyed this week at the Irvine Housing Blog. Come back next week as we
continue chronicling ‘the seventh circle of real estate hell.’ Have a great and joyous weekend.

🙂

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Jeremiah was a bullfrog
Was a good friend of mine
I never understood a single word he said
But I helped him a-drink his wine
And he always had some mighty fine wine
Singin’…

Joy to the world
All the boys and girls now
Joy to the fishes in the deep blue sea
Joy to you and me

If I were the king of the world
Tell you what I’d do
I’d throw away the cars and the bars and the war
Make sweet love to you
Sing it now…

Joy to the world
All the boys and girls
Joy to the fishes in the deep blue sea
Joy to you and me

[electric piano]

You know I love the ladies
Love to have my fun
I’m a high life flyer and a rainbow rider
A straight shootin’ son-of-a-gun
I said a straight shootin’ son-of-a-gun

Joy to the world
All the boys and girls
Joy to the fishes in the deep blue sea
Joy to you and me

Joy to the World — Three Dog Night

Lipstick on Leatherwood

Lipstick and Leather — Y&T

Today’s featured property demonstrates the living-off-your-house mindset in action. Apparently, all you had to do was buy a house, any house, and start extracting money from it. It didn’t require any money of your own to invest, and if things go bad, well… it’s not your problem. This house was purchased on 2/10/2006 for $705,000. The owner used a $564,000 first mortgage, a $141,000 second mortgage, and a $0 downpayment. On 9/29/2006, a mere 7 months later, the property was refinanced using a $632,000 first mortgage and a $158,000 second. This netted the owners $85,000 in mortgage equity withdrawal. That is the median income in Irvine, and these people got it simply for owning a house for 7 months! Actually, it is better than that because if you earned $85,000, you would have to pay taxes and have withholdings. To net $85,000, you would need to be making more like $120,000. Further, to get this in 7 months, you would need to be making $205,000 per year. That is one hard working house!

I profile these day after day. Are you starting to get a sense how common this was? Look at how much money these people got to spend for doing absolutely nothing. Is it any wonder houses were such a popular investment? Was it logical to think this could go on forever?

As a society during the real estate bubble, we put enormous sums of money into assets that produce nothing. This isn’t like investing in a factory or machinery or infrastructure of some other sort of productive use. These are houses. They only have consumptive value. There is no production here. Is this where society’s resources should be diverted?

How can a society thrive when it ties up all its resources in non-productive assets? I joke about hard-working houses because the whole idea is so absurd. Imagine if we took every resource in our economy and put it into house production. For a time, everything would be OK because everyone would be working in construction, they would be making money, and we would all have houses, but what happens once we were done? Houses can’t produce anything else. Once the boom was over, the entire economy would collapse because there are no productive assets.

This is basically what we did since the collapse of the NASDAQ stock market bubble. Our manufacturing base never did recover from the recession of 2001. When liquidity was added to the financial system, this money poured into mortgage loans rather than business infrastructure. It is a misappropriation of resources that will likely haunt us for quite some time.

7 Leatherwood Front 7 Leatherwood Inside

Asking Price: $570,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $142,500

Downpayment Needed: $114,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $4,750

Purchase Price: $705,000

Purchase Date: 2/10/2006

Address: 7 Leatherwood, Irvine, CA 92612

Beds: 4
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 2,000
$/Sq. Ft.: $285
Lot Size: 3,256

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Townhouse
Year Built: 1968
Stories: 2 Levels
Area: University Park
County: Orange
MLS#: P656242
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 2 days

This bank owned property offers nice cherry wood floors through out
bottom level.All 4 bedrooms upstairs with 2 balconys.Located in a nice
neighborhood with desirable schools near by. This property is being
sold as is with no warranties expressed or implied.

Look at that picture of the stairway. Does it look like an optical illusion to you? It plays tricks on my eyes.

Do you think the cherry wood floors are real?

Is putting expensive flooring in a 40 year old condo putting lipstick on a pig?

If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss to whoever purchased Wholesale Capital’s toxic loans will be $254,200.

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I’ve been kicked
I’ve been hit
I’ve been scratched
I’ve been bit
I’ve been pushed around
Shoved around
Had it rough
But it ain’t enough

‘Cause I never knew an angel could be so wild
I never felt love ’till I tried your style

Lipstick and Leather
Black and red, oh yeah!
Lipstick and Leather
Rock and roll baby made a mess of my head

I’ve been slapped
I’ve been blamed
I’ve been attacked
And I’ve been chained
Yeah you put me down
Slapped me round
Long enough
But love is tough

‘Cause you’re ready, willing, able to please
Somebody tell me why I’m down on my knees, I said
This must be love or I’m goin’ insane
There’s such a thin, thin line between pleasure and pain

Lipstick and Leather
Black and red, oh yeah!
Lipstick and Leather
Black and red…

Lipstick and Leather — Y&T

Clueless

Clueless — Sevendust

Sometimes I come across a property where the circumstances around the speculative purchase lead to one of two possible conclusions: fraud or cluelessness. I am giving the benefit of the doubt to call this one clueless. This property was purchased in April of 2007. The news of the subprime implosion were on the front page. News of weakness in the housing market was everywhere as sales volumes were already declining and prices were dropping in many markets. And, of course, outlets like the IHB were screaming from the rooftops that prices were going to crash. It was in this environment that our flipper purchased today’s featured property.

The purchase allowed the previous owner who purchased in 2004 to sell at a small profit. It is the kind of circumstances that also has potential for fraud, particularly since the property went into foreclosure in just over a year after its purchase.

But was it really clueless? The flipper didn’t have any money in the transaction. This was a 100% financing deal, so Affiliated Funding provided the money, and the loan was packaged and sold in the secondary market. Some faceless investor is eating the loss. If prices had rebounded, this flipper would have made money. If it went down (which it did in a big way) then only their credit score was at risk. In those circumstances perhaps those of us who did not participate were the clueless ones…

What really caught my attention with this property was the discount. The asking price is 34% off its 2007 purchase price. That is a substantial drop. Perhaps they are hoping for multiple bids over asking. Perhaps there are enough knife catchers out there that they will succeed. In the comments recently, we were reminded about all the bullish commenters in the early days of the bubble blogs who were certain that if prices dropped 10% that investors would swoop in and buy up the entire inventory. This one is 34% off. Where are they now?

Asking Price: $499,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $124,750

Downpayment Needed: $99,800

Monthly Equity Burn: $4,158

Purchase Price: $756,000

Purchase Date: 4/17/2007

Address: 33 Visalia, Irvine, CA 92602

Beds: 3
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,821
$/Sq. Ft.: $274
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Contemporary/Modern
Year Built: 2000
Stories: 3+ Levels
Floor: 1
View: Park or Green Belt
Area: Northpark
County: Orange
MLS#: P655808
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 4 days

Excellent Starter in Gate guarded community. 3 Bed Rms, 3 Baths, 2 Car Garage. Don’t miss out on this one.

Does that picture and description scream, “I don’t give a crap?”

If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss will be $286,940. Think about these losses magnified by the total number of REOs in California and the rest of the country. No wonder our financial system is in such distress.

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Scared to look ahead
Instead I fold my arms waiting
The train’s arriving with the goodies I’m entitled to
All this time I never felt I got what I deserved
Oh what a shame (why me why me)

I never take a thing for granted
I’ll never be a hypocrite
(what would you know)

Fly, watch you’re falling sunset
I can’t remember when I ever heard you say
Thank you for everything you gave I’m so grateful
(hang on) to your fallen sunset

Don’t you see I’m talking can’t you wait until I’m done
Hold on a second here’s another one you haven’t heard
You think you’re owed the world well look at me
I’m owed it too (you’re feeling sorry for yourself once again)

I never take a thing for granted
I’ll never be a hypocrite
(can’t stand to hear you)
Always taking things for granted
you’re such a hypocrite
(what would you know)

Fly, watch you’re falling sunset
I can’t remember when I ever heard you say
Thank you for everything you gave I’m so grateful
(fly) watch you’re falling sunset

Clueless — Sevendust

Renovations are not Riches

Changes – Yes

Many people during the bubble took out HELOCs and extensively renovated their properties. Historically, interior property renovations add $0.70 for every dollar spent. Exterior renovations add $0.50 per dollar. It was not uncommon to see property listings touting $200,000 in renovations to justify a $500,000 price increase. It isn’t the renovations that were adding value to property; it was the financing that was inflating it. There were several properties in Irvine that were torn down to a single wall and rebuilt from the ground up. Those that attempted this kind of extreme home makeover in 2007 did not fair to well.

We first profiled 2 Angell, Irvine, CA 92612 in February of 2008 when it first came on the market. The flippers who were trying to sell this property took a $600,000 house, rebuilt it, and asked $1,469,000 for it. I was thinking they might get lucky to get $1,000,000. Now the property is back on the market for $1,199,000.

Today’s featured property is another total redo. It is an interesting story of renovation gone awry.

Asking Price: $999,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $250,000

Downpayment Needed: $200,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $8,333

Purchase Price: $640,000

Purchase Date: 4/7/2005

Address: 1 Whitney, Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 5
Baths: 5
Sq. Ft.: 3,990
$/Sq. Ft.: $250
Lot Size: 7,020

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Mediterranean
Year Built: 2007
Stories: 2 Levels
Area: Northwood
County: Orange
MLS#: S504153
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 375 days

Unsold in 90+ days

Absolutely gorgeous Tuscany styled home. Must sell……

For someone who really must sell a property, they didn’t put much effort into the MLS listing.

This property was purchased for $640,000 on 4/7/2005. The original structure was completely replaced by a new, much larger home. On 6/9/2006, the owner opened a HELOC for $170,250. This probably did not cover the full cost of the renovation. On 1/12/2007 he refinanced the first mortgage for $1,200,000. He promptly put the house on the market for $1,789,000 and watched it sit there for a year.

Listing Price History

Date Price
Sep 06, 2007 $1,789,000
Dec 10, 2007 $1,699,900
Mar 07, 2008 $1,450,000
Apr 24, 2008 $1,200,000
Sep 11, 2008 $999,000

Every 90 days, this seller lowered the price another $200,000 and chased the market as it fell even faster. He might have got out for enough to pay off the debt if he had cut the price early, but this was supposed to be a ticket to riches, not a backbreaking labor for chump change. Of course, now, he is either going to have to write a big check at the closing table or accept a serious credit hit. If this is the man’s primary occupation, it is a very difficult choice to make…

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Im moving through some changes
Ill never be the same
Something you did touched me
Theres no one else to blame

The love we had has fallen
The love we used to share
Weve given up pretending
As if you didnt care

Change changing places
Root yourself to the ground
Capitalize on this good fortune
One word can bring you round
Changes

Changes – Yes