OC resale home prices DOWN more than 10% YOY, sales over 25% BELOW average

Sep 27th, 2011  
by IrvineRenter  in Library News

Astute Observations

Astute Observation by Gavrilo Princip
2011-09-27 06:33 AM

The decor inside is so gauche it almost defies belief.  One room is SoHo modern with safari touches, another looks like the Easter Bunny exploded in it.  Horrid.

Astute Observation by octal77
2011-09-27 11:42 AM

I have toured this house.

My theory:  The builder got a big discount from interior designer(s) on a warehouse(s) full of junk.

IMO, both the seller (price) and the designer(s) (decor) are all delusional.

BTW, this is not the only home in Shady that sports really weird decor.

Astute Observation by Laura Louzader
2011-09-27 07:31 AM

Agree, the decor is horrible, and what’s worse, they made it STRUCTURAL.

I’d want to deduct $1.5M from the original distress sale price of $3.35M just to gut the place and start over. All the paneling in the entry and most of the rooms, the screaming modern kitchen and uncomfortable “cutting edge” bath fixtures, the ugly pool deck, would all have to go and then you’d have to build it out to make it look the way you want.

Astute Observation by Alan
2011-09-27 02:30 PM

When you read “water features, and pool bathroom” and then see the photo of those water features, did anyone else immediately think oops, pool bathroom?

Astute Observation by SoOCOwner
2011-09-27 08:37 AM

I’m glad I’m not the only one who felt the decor was in bad taste.  And to think the owner paid a designer a small fortune to destroy the house. Actually, it looks like a different designer was hired to do each room without any coordination whatsoever.

Astute Observation by risedave
2011-09-27 09:00 AM

I think I know where the money from Solardyne went.  BTW this shows why weed should be illegal.

Astute Observation by just some guy
2011-09-27 09:39 AM

it looks like the family from Beetlejuice lives here.

Astute Observation by Planet Reality
2011-09-27 10:02 AM

Prices are still clearly above January 2009 in those charts.

Down payments still high in Irvine.

Price per sq ft for single family homes in Irvine is $335.

Only a few months away from 2012.

Weren’t down payments supposed to evaporate by now?

Wasn’t price per sq ft supposed to be $200-250 by now?

What about interest rates, when will they be at 7%,  year 2023?

Astute Observation by irvine_home_owner
2011-09-27 10:17 AM

I’m waiting for 2003 prices… or 1999.

Someone told me fundamental pricing should be 1995.

Astute Observation by IrvineRenter
2011-09-27 10:53 AM

“Weren’t down payments supposed to evaporate by now?

Wasn’t price per sq ft supposed to be $200-250 by now?

What about interest rates, when will they be at 7%,  year 2023?”

Making straw man arguments and attributing statements to me or readers that nobody ever made does nothing to enhance your credibility or make the value of your depreciating 2009 purchase go up.

Astute Observation by Planet Reality
2011-09-27 01:25 PM

Nobody ever said:

Prices were down year over year in 2010
Interest rates were headed up
20% Down payments would disappear in Irvine
Price per sq ft would be below $300

Surely you jest, since you said all of those things and the peanut gallery was even more exteme

Extremely wrong

Astute Observation by Planet Reality
2011-09-27 01:31 PM

Oh and I’m being nice leaving out inventory

Wow that really sky rocketed just as you foolishly predicted over and over again

Right now single family homes in Irvine: $335 per sq ft - deal with it, time enough to accept reality

Astute Observation by awgee
2011-09-27 01:52 PM

Even by your own post, you admit to misrepresenting what was said.  Do you really think that people can not see your exaggerations and lies?

You were right about interest rates.  We were wrong.  We admit it.  But, that does not make any of your other mistaken forecasts any more correct.  Including interest rates and prices in the same post or sentence does not make you any more right.  You were wrong.  You still are wrong.  And you will continue to be wrong.

You were right about interest rates.  We got it.

We also got that you are wrong about everything else.

Astute Observation by wheresthebeef
2011-09-27 12:16 PM

PR, I guess it depends where you get your info.  As was posted by gepetoh yesterday:

“That’s peculiar… according to Zillow Irvine has dipped from $566K in 1Q09 to $532K in 2Q11.”

Are we talking median, average, price/sqft, only sold homes, or just just select top tier neighborhoods?  I have a feeling prices won’t be increasing in the “slow” season for the next several months.  Time will tell…

Astute Observation by Planet Reality
2011-09-27 01:27 PM

Just look at the pretty chart Irvine Renter provides, with price, loan and down payments.

Astute Observation by zubs
2011-09-27 01:00 PM

My Chinese friends just bought a house in Portola Springs for 640,000.  A 2200 sqft townhouse.  They didn’t ask me for advice about the buy or I would have warned them about the garbage dump nearby.

But they really have too much money in China.  The people there don’t believe in their government and need to insure they can keep their money so they invest overseas in Australia, Canada and Irvine.

A lot of the FCB money from China is an insurance policy in case their government goes all communist on them and declares the money in the bank belongs to all Chinese people.

Astute Observation by zubs
2011-09-27 01:04 PM

This is also why Chinese try to get foreign visas.  If the shit hits the fan in the motherland, they will have an insurance policy to gtfo and live comfortably in a new country.

Sure they love living in China, but it’s nice to have a plan B. 

Irvine is Plan B

Astute Observation by newbie2008
2011-09-27 01:42 PM

relocating as a plan B is with all the weathy—even Americans.  Notice that many are opening shop in China and other countries and having houses in those countries?

Some also have dual citizenship (2 passports).  The USA does not recognize dual citizenship with China.

Irvine as plan B is a good reflection on the quality of Irvine.

Astute Observation by phil
2011-09-28 09:37 AM

I thought China forces you to renounce citizenship if you become an American citizen.

Astute Observation by zubs
2011-09-28 10:43 AM

Yes there are ways around that.  China needs to be actively looking for dual citizenships or green card holders because I know a few people who have it and they got it through bribery.

Astute Observation by Gemina13
2011-09-27 05:10 PM

Oh, ye gods.  This is why hipsters should not be allowed to take design courses.  It looks like someone swallowed a Copenhagen store and an IKEA warehouse, and then vomited it all back up inside a pseudo-Tuscan stucco box.

I agree with Laura, except that I’d put the discount at $2M to burn the damn thing to the ground, leave one wall standing, get a homestead loan, and rebuild as necessary.  I’m sure something could be made of that property . . . like an orphanage . . .

Astute Observation by Hooey
2011-09-27 09:34 PM

Looks like Tim Burton decorated…Irvine Neo-gothika.

Astute Observation by HenryE
2011-09-28 01:31 AM

You guys are all missing the point of the decor in that house.  It’s for the children (snark).  I would have had a blast growing up in that house.  It’s straight out of a Tim Burton movie.  However, any adult who actually lives in it for a while might need psychotherapy.  Or maybe the owner was a psychiatrist.

Astute Observation by Jen
2011-09-28 07:26 AM

Did Santa miss your house the past few years?? Why are you all so negative and catty?  I never bother looking at home photos in this blog but your descriptions got me curious. What could be so vile???
Well, nothing, I found out. That house was so fun to look at and clearly an interesting twist on existing styles. I loved it.  LOVED IT
So much fun, that house.
 
Bunnies and fruit decor aren’t all the rage anymore. It’s okay to update from your 1974 hunter green lazyboys.

Astute Observation by Steve Moyer
2011-09-28 07:45 AM

The thing poor PR can’t figure out is that these current (though still declining) values are based 100% on these historically low interest rates being projected out to infinity. 

It is only a matter of time until the final, mother of all bubbles bursts (bonds) and interest rates go to 18-20% +, without Fed control (market participants will drive the carriage).  Anyone who buys now will be looking at another 50-70% haircut. 

At that time, buyers will prosper.  You’ll need cash.

Astute Observation by irvine_home_owner
2011-09-28 09:16 AM

“interest rates go to 18-20%”

Is that a prediction? What year will this happen?

I’m still waiting for the 8%+ rates predicted back in 2008.

Astute Observation by Krystal
2011-09-28 01:26 PM

Please note, property tax should be approx. $42,240

Astute Observation by Steve Moyer
2011-09-28 01:28 PM

It’s an inevitability, and always a component of bonds bubbles.  When?  It’s a ticking time bomb.  But there is no dispute people are projecting current low interest rates forever, as The NAR continues to say “Never a better time to buy, with interest rates so low!”  It’s the potent director fallacy at work, live and in color.

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