Bad to the Bone — George Thorogood
On the day I was born
The nurses all gathered ’round
And they gazed in wide wonder
At the joy they had found
The head nurse spoke up
Said “leave this one alone”
She could tell right away
That I was bad to the bone
No particular theme for this weekend’s post. Sometimes you just want a little testosterone rush…
I know some of you have been waiting for some sponsored posts. We have still been looking for the right property. Quite honestly, prices are still too high, and there are not many truly good deals in the marketplace.
In a normal real estate market (i.e. anywhere other than California), there are two types of properties: 1. Those properties desirable for owner-occupants that trade near rental parity, and 2. Those undesirable properties that trade at prices where cashflow investors can obtain a 10% – 12% return on their downpayment investment. Those are the properties we are looking for.
Right now in the market, there are many properties trading at or below rental parity. These are not hard to find. However, there are no desirable properties trading at rental parity, and the undesirable ones have not fallen far enough below rental parity to be a good rental investment. That only leaves one kind of “investment” property available: the speculative bet with positive cashflow.
One of the least intelligent investment decisions people made during the bubble was paying so much for their speculative bets that the property could not generate enough cashflow to cover the cost of ownership. An investment that consumes more cash than it generates is what Robert Kiyosaki calls an “alligator.” It is a great method for losing a lot of money. Our current crop of floplords is finding this out right now.
Prices in many markets are low enough that properties at least do not lose money each month, and some even generate a positive cashflow. The rate of return on these properties is very small, and you can probably earn as much money from a high-yield CD as you can from some of these rentals. However, if there is another bubble, you could make money on appreciation, and in the meantime, you can hold these properties indefinitely waiting for prices to go up.
Personally, I think properties that do not cashflow enough to be a valid investment without appreciation is a foolish way to invest. But then again, I have every confidence my fellow Californian’s will create another real estate bubble if given the chance. The bet an “investor” in these properties is making is that the lenders will be stupid enough to loosen credit and create another unsustainable Ponzi Scheme that will cost them a trillion dollars. I just don’t see that happening again soon.
We may put up some sponsored posts of properties in this grey area that have positive cashflow and are candidates for future appreciation. It may be a while before we see cap rates in excess of 8%, and with interest rates being very low, it may be a very long time before we see 10% to 12% cap rates in residential real estate. Despite how much prices have crashed in many areas, they are still too high.
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There are some properties that are trading at prices that are so low that they do make sense as rentals. However, they are in such undesirable neighborhoods that it may be difficult to keep them rented. We do not want to profile these properties because we do not want to suggest a property that would require the buyer to be a slumlord.
Check out some of these properties:
2521 W Sunflower Ave #R2 Santa Ana,
CA 92704: $279,000 in 2004, asking $128,000 today.
2101 S Pacific Ave #75 Santa Ana,
CA 92704: $350,000 in 2006, asking $99,900 today. That is 72% off!
717 E Chestnut Ave #9 Santa Ana,
CA 92701: $270,000 in 2005, asking $83,000 today.
223 S Juanita St Hemet,
CA 92543: $265,000 in 2005, asking $54,900 today. That is 80% off!
344 ALESSANDRO Hemet,
CA 92543: $270,000 in 2005, asking $42,000 today. That is 85% off!
And just so I am not accused of only profiling really awful properties…
35756 Trevino Beaumont,
CA 92223: $492,000 new in 2006, asking $122,850 today. That is a property just over 2 years old (December 2006 to January 2009) selling at a 75% discount.
I may add some more properties to the list this weekend. I only looked for 10 minutes on Redfin to find these. Look in any fringe market, and you will see devastation that is almost hard to imagine. Many almost-new houses are selling for less than their replacement costs
Here is some fan mail I received this morning:
“
Roberts assumes too much without any knowledge of the facts.
Like most writers, he takes facts from the garbage can of other writers and
feeds it to the ignorant masses. I am a realtor and this makes me mad. Nothing
could be farther from the truth. A realtor, unlike a writer, has to research the
market in order to place a value on a listing that sells. A home that is
overpriced gets shown with other houses in the same price range. The average
buyer looks a 10 homes before choosing one among them. An overpriced home would
not show well among the 10 other homes the buyer has examined.
A realtor can earn more money by pricing a house low. All
top agents will attest to this. A well price or home will sell twice as fast.
The real estate agent can sell twice as many homes per year by pricing his
listings at a fair price. Only a pen head writer would not have discovered this
fact if he were researching for the truth instead of hoping for a
Pulitzer.“
Does anyone else think I am factually challenged?
I must have something left in my Reservoir of Schadenfreude because winding up a realtor does not upset me. I wish I knew what this message was in response to so I could comment further.
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