BSALTA 2005-09

Before Bear Sterns got absorbed by JP Morgan, they underwrote a large number of Alt-A loans. It was one of the many reasons for their implosion.

Today’s featured property was one of those loans. The property sold at auction for 31% off its 2005 purchase price.

804 Maplewood Kitchen

Asking Price: $404,900

Address: 804 Maplewood, Irvine, CA 92618

{book3}

Dead End Street — The Kinks

What are we living for?
Two-roomed apartment on the second floor.
No money coming in,
The rent collectors knocking, trying to get in.

What level of affordability are we waiting for? Well, something better than a 2 bedroom apartment for those making over the median income. This is the definition of a property thats value should never exceed rental parity. Why would anyone pay more than the cost of ownership for an apartment?

We all know people did this due to fantasies of appreciation. I doubt anyone would pay a premium for a property like this one for any other reason. Would you? The REO trustee is hoping someone will. Based on the nearby comps, I doubt it will happen.

804 Maplewood Kitchen

Asking Price: $404,900IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $101,225

Downpayment Needed: $80,980

Monthly Equity Burn: $3,374

Purchase Price: $549,000

Purchase Date: 8/10/2005

Address: 804 Maplewood, Irvine, CA 92618

Beds: 2
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,200
$/Sq. Ft.: $337
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Contemporary
Year Built: 2000
Stories: 2
Floor: 1
Area: Oak Creek
County: Orange
MLS#: S570032
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 1 day

New Listing (24 hours)

Beautiful Condo in Oak Park Gated Community. Very clean 2 bedroom, 2.5
bath. Beautifully upgraded master bath with granite counters. Nice
floorplan with kitchen open to dining room and living room. 2 car
tandem garage attahed. Good location within tract, near pool, shopping
and schools. Come and see this beauty in Irvine.

attahed?

Short and sweet.

This property was purchased on 8/10/2005 for $549,000. The owner used a $439,200 first mortgage, a $54,900 second mortgage, and a $54,900 downpayment. You can see more of these properties where the owner had a significant downpayment walking away now the prices have moved down so far. There is a point where people are so far underwater that they just give up. Statistics show this amount is not typically very large as the default rates increase dramatically once people go under.

If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, then the total loss on the property will be $168,394. Both loans were from Countrywide, and they ended up in BSALTA 2005-09. If you want to see why Bear Sterns went under it is here. They were loaning people half a million dollars to buy 2 bedroom apartments. Great business plan.

{book4}

Theres a crack up in the ceiling,
And the kitchen sink is leaking.
Out of work and got no money,
A sunday joint of bread and honey.

What are we living for?
Two-roomed apartment on the second floor.
No money coming in,
The rent collectors knocking, trying to get in.

We are strictly second class,
We dont understand,
(dead end!)
Why we should be on dead end street.
(dead end!)
People are living on dead end street.
(dead end!)
Gonna die on dead end street.

Dead End Street — The Kinks

Our First Bear Rally?

Prices rose in March in Orange County for the first time in nearly two years. Don’t worry, it won’t last. This is not the bottom, although several of our prominent local bottom-callers may come out and say so.

57 EAGLECREEK kitchen

Asking Price: $1,279,900

Address: 57 Eaglecreek, Irvine, CA 92618

{book2}

The Song Remains The Same — Led Zeppelin

California sunlight, sweet calcutta rain
Honolulu starbright–the song remains the same.
Here we go!

In most price declines there are false rallies. Prices become oversold and look inexpensive relative to previous pricing. These bear rallies often bring new money into the market as buyers do not want to miss the bottom, so they buy and drive prices higher. This can go on for a while, but eventually bear rallies fizzle out because prices are inflated and not supported by fundamentals, so prices fall back to where they started from.

I originally added the annotations to the chart below in early 2007 for the post, What is Past Is Prologue. We did have a spring rally in 2007, but we skipped the second year rally entirely in 2008.

Early 90’s House Prices

The price rally, if you want to call it that, is a mere uptick in the Orange County median from $375,00 to $380,000 from January to February. With all the artificial props to the housing market being engineered in Washington, it would not surprise me to see a spring rally, but given the state of our economy, it seems more likely that prices will continue to plummet.

What makes a price rally in these circumstances so seductive is the residual kool aid intoxication among market participants. How much of a rally would it take before people start to worry about being priced out forever? How much do prices need to go up before greed starts buying to capture appreciation? Of course, without loose-money financing to propel prices higher, the rally will go nowhere, but not before it sucks in a new round of knife catchers.

Bear rallies bring out another phenomenon: overhead supply. When prices drop, people who may want to sell do not because they cannot get the price they want. This pool of would-be sellers do not appear in the inventory statistics, but they are out there. Once prices start to rise, these sellers come out of hiding and list their properties for sale. Most will list their properties at a breakeven price hoping to get out without a loss. Of course, the cummulative impact of all these new sellers in the market is the death of the rally.

Today’s featured property is a WTF listing in Oak Creek. Apparently it has gone up in value since late 2005. It is listed at a price that provides a little negotiating room to get out at breakeven. It might not be a bad strategy if it were not about $350,000 overpriced in today’s market.

57 EAGLECREEK kitchen

Asking Price: $1,279,900IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $319,975

Downpayment Needed: $255,980

Monthly Equity Burn: $10,665

Purchase Price: $1,160,000

Purchase Date: 10/28/2005

Address: 57 Eaglecreek, Irvine, CA 92618

Beds: 5
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 3,150
$/Sq. Ft.: $406
Lot Size: 5,800

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Mediterranean
Year Built: 1999
Stories: 2
View: Park or Green Belt
Area: Oak Creek
County: Orange
MLS#: S564030
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 46 days

Gourmet Kitchen Award

STUNNING EXECUTIVE HOME ON PRIME INSIDE LOCATION IN THE PRESITGIOUS
GATED COMMUNITY OF OAK CREEK…5 SPACIOUS BEDS..3 FULL BATHS..(ONE BED
& BATH DOWN)(DOWN BEDROOM IS OPEN AS A PLAY ROOM BUT AN EASILY BE
CONVERTED BACK TO A BEDROOM).. LG FML LIVING & DINING RM..GOURMET
KITCHEN W/STAINLESS APPLIANCES, GRANITE COUNTERS, CENTER ISLAND &
EAT IN BREAKFAST NOOK..HUGE FAMILY RM W/FIREPLACE..DOWNSTAIRS BEDROOM
IS OPEN AS A PLAY/TOY ROOM..INDOOR LAUNDRY ROOM…SOUGHTAFTER BONUS
ROOM & OFFICE AREA UPSTAIRS..EXTENSIVE STONE TILE FLOORS
DOWNSTAIRS…VAULTED CEILINGS…A/C..DESIGNER PAINT & LIGHT
FIXTURES..THIS HOME IS IMMACULATE SUNNY & BRIGHT…MODEL
PERFECT…SHOW YOUR FUSSIEST BUYERS AGENTS PLEASE CALL 2 HOURS BEFORE
SHOWING FOR APPOINTMENT. DO NOT SHOW WITH OUT APPOINTMENT…NO SHOWINGS
FROM FRIDAY 5 P.M. TO SUNDAY 9.30 A.M ABSOLUTELY NO SHOWINGS ON
SATURDAYS.

PRESITGIOUS?

ALL CAPS.

This property was purchased on 10/28/2005 for $1,160,000. The owner used a $870,000 first mortgage and a $290,000 downpayment. If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the owner stands to make $43,106. Perhaps he left himself some negotiating room to get out at break even.

I get a kick out of the Cyberhomes estimate of $612,702. Perhaps Cyberhomes does not appreciate the special qualities of this property.

{book3}

I had a dream
Oh, yeah
Crazy dream, uh-huh.
Anything I wanted to know
Any place I needed to go

Hear my song
Yeah…people dont you listen now? sing along!
Oh, you dont know what youre missing now.
Any little song that you know
Everything thats small has to grow.
And it has to grow!
Push push, yeah!

California sunlight, sweet calcutta rain
Honolulu starbright–the song remains the same.
Here we go!

Honolulu now…
Sing out hare hare, dance the hoochie koo.
City lights are oh so bright, as we go sliding
Sliding
Sliding through.

Oh!

The Song Remains The Same — Led Zeppelin

The weekend post generated many comments and plenty of controversy. If you have an opinion on the subject go to that thread to express it. Do not pollute this thread with those comments as I will delete them.

I can understand people’s concerns, and I can take negative comments, but there is a limit to what I will put up with.

The comments were an interesting study in mob mentality (I deleted many of the worst of them). It is amazing the things people will say anonymously if they feel the collective approval of the mob. In all the posts we have done on properties, we have never used names or made it personal. Many people on that thread did make it personal. Their conduct was shameful. Many said they would never come back. I hope they keep to their word.

This experience has been a cause of reflection for me. In life you tend to attract people to you that think and behave the way you do. I would like to think the comments were provided by good people who succumbed to the lynch mob; however, if these comments are a reflection of who these people really are, and if that is a reflection of who I am, then I perhaps the IHB really does need to change. As Shakespeare said, “The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in our stars, but in ourselves…”

I want to thank all of those who left positive comments and offered their support. It is for you that I keep writing. BTW, some people do support our efforts.

Irvine Housing Brokers

There will be no open thread this weekend. Instead, I want to announce the establishment of Irvine Housing Brokers.

Irvine Housing Brokers

What? Have we lost our minds? What makes us think we could sell real estate?

People are buying right now, and many of them are doing so despite being told that prices will drop further. Jim Klinge runs the blog bubbleinfo.com, and he is the realtor behind North San Diego County Real Estate. He was recently featured in the LA Times article “The Hunter S. Thompson of real estate”. Mr. Klinge has operated much like the IHB. The LA Times noted “Klinge has skewered brokers on the blog, calling them names like
“clown” and “cherry-picking cheerleader” for not admitting that the
housing market had tumbled.” He has done this while maintaining a successful real estate practice.

Jim Klinge’s motto is “You Can Handle The Truth.” I think he is right.

Why has the IHB been successful?

There are many reasons the IHB has drawn so many regular readers, but telling the truth is the most important of them. The entire Realtor community is united in serving bullshit to buyers. Much of what realtors say to buyers during the sales process is not true, particularly with regards to current and future real estate values; some of the duplicity is intentional, and some of the deceit is offered in ignorance. Whatever the cause, realtors lie to buyers, and buyers know it.

Instructing
Home
Buyers

One of the primary focuses of the IHB has been to educate buyers. If you go to a typical realtor site, they pretend to educate buyers, but what they are really doing is attempting to indoctrinate them. At the IHB, we tell the truth, and we tell a Truth nobody else is willing to reveal. We explain to people how to correctly value houses, and we provide an impartial analysis of where market prices are heading. Right now, houses are overvalued, prices are going down, and prices will continue to drop for quite some time.

Why should buyers come to us?

We have been writing about the housing market at the IHB since September of 2006. We accurately predicted the deflation of the housing bubble. By being accurate and truthful about the direction of housing bubble, we have established credibility and trust. Many of you have been reading this blog for over 2 years; you know us. What do you make of our character?

We also add value to the buying experience. Based on the work developed for the IHB, we provide buyers profiles of the properties they want to bid on. We provide a report showing (1) recent sales comps, (2) maximum cashflow value, (3) rental parity value (with rental comps) (4) cashflow investor value, and (5) the complete cost of ownership. To our knowledge nobody else is doing this. As a buyer, wouldn’t you like to have an objective and accurate report on what the property is worth and what it will cost you to own it? I would.

I
Help
Buyers

Many people have thanked me personally for my writing at the IHB. Many more have told me that they will buy when I do. I am not ready to buy yet, and if you have patience to wait for better pricing, you shouldn’t either; however, when you are ready to buy, if you really want to thank me, come to the IHB and let us be your buyer’s broker. Someone is going to make a buy-side commission on the transaction. I would like it to be me.

🙂

Why should sellers list with us?

We must be joking, right? With as many sellers and realtors as we have lampooned, it doesn’t seem likely that anyone would list with us, does it? Well, consider this analogy:

Why do night clubs run a happy hour and serve women free drinks? It isn’t because they are generous. If a night club can fill the bar with women, men will show up. The readers of the IHB are overwhelmingly potential buyers, and if there are lots of potential buyers around, sellers will want to show up.

Not all of the women who show up to a night club for happy hour are available, and many want to be left alone, but there are enough available women in the crowd for men to be interested. It is better for men to go where women are if they want a chance to meet one. Similarly, not all of the readers of the IHB are currently in the market to buy (at least the ones who have been paying attention to what we are writing), but there are enough buyers in the crowd for sellers to be interested. It is better for sellers to go where the buyers are if they want a chance to sell their house.

So how many potential buyers are we talking about?

Most of the readers of the IHB are from Irvine or the surrounding areas (although I did get an email from a reader in the Czech Republic this week). Most readers are interested in Irvine real estate, or they would not be at the Irvine Housing Blog. Here are some interesting statistics for you:

  • 4,500 average daily visitors
  • 3,300 unique IP addresses (these are often shared)
  • 2,300 bookmarked visitors (daily readers)
  • 1,800 readers via daily email

What other medium has the promise to deliver your listing to more potential buyers than the IHB?

Do a Google search for Irvine Real Estate; that is what your buyers would be looking for. You will find the IHB (and the article on me in the OC Register) near the top of the list. Do any Google search you can think of concerning Irvine housing, and we will be on the first page.

Other reasons to list with the IHB

We reach more buyers than anyone else. That is reason enough to list with us, but there are other factors to consider as well.

When you read these property descriptions each day here at the IHB, doesn’t it make you cringe? Do you want your property represented like that? By now, we have probably embarrassed most of the realtors in town. You would think that after a while, the writing would improve. Wouldn’t you be ashamed if your property were presented this poorly? At a recent IHB gathering, a former homeowner told us the realtor he was using wouldn’t change his ALL CAPS description despite being asked to. He had written descriptions that way for 20 years, so he thought it was the proper way to do it. Yikes!

Let us present your property in the best possible way. Every property has positives.

We will also show you what your property is worth based on current comps to help you price it to sell. If you do not agree, or if you want to list at a fantasy price, there are plenty of realtors in town who will take your listing; however, if you really want to sell your home, and if you are willing to price it accordingly, we want to help you.

Who is the IHB?Lawrence Roberts

Lawrence Roberts

Most of you already know who I am; my name is Lawrence Roberts. I made the OC Register last November in case you missed it. I am the Director of Planning for a local engineering firm, Mayers and Associates. That is what I still do.

I have a Masters degree in Land Development from Texas A&M University, and I have been working in the real estate field for over 15 years. For a complete bio, check out The Great Housing Bubble. Suffice it to say, I have an understanding of real estate.

My function in this venture is to keep writing for the IHB and keep our traffic counts high. I am also responsible for all other marketing efforts like setting up a newsletter and email program similar to the one I created for the book.

The Irvine Housing Blog is my hobby, and it will continue to be just a hobby. I did not realize the marketing potential of this hobby until I met the young man who is taking on the responsibility of making sales happen, Shevy Akason.

Shevy Akason

I first met Shevy several months ago. I was immediately impressed with his understanding of real estate, and his complete lack of kool aid intoxication. He understood exactly what was going on in the market and why it was all happening. He shared with me an email exchange he had with representatives of the National Association of Realtors. He is not impressed with the conduct of his industry, and he is idealistic enough to think he might be able to change things. I hope he is right.Shevy Akason

Part of what got me interested in starting this venture now is the properties Shevy has been showing me in other areas around Southern California. The price crash hasn’t made the valuations attractive for Irvine real estate, but it certainly has made for good deals in other areas. When Shevy and I talk about good deals, we are talking about good cashflow deals. We will not sell fantasies of endless appreciation.

Seeing good deals in the rental cashflow investment market, I knew that I could honestly endorse a deal in today’s market. This is the first time in seven or eight years I have seen prices on property in California that have true investment value. Once prices drop to price levels where ownership makes sense, I turn bullish. I am still bearish on most Irvine real estate, but I am bullish on select properties in other markets. As the price crash grinds on, I will become even more bullish, and so will Shevy.

Shevy owns rental properties himself. He purchased several positively-cashflowing properties out-of-state before the bubble began to inflate. He understands cashflow investment, and he puts his money where his mouth is.

Shevy is the new public face of the Irvine Housing Brokers. When you want to buy or list a home with us, Shevy will be the man who takes care of you–unless you overwhelm him with work (please do) and he needs to get other agents. For now, you can reach him at:

shevy@findmylandmark.com

949.769.1599

Contact him to discuss how the IHB can serve your real estate needs.

Zovall

Zovall, or Zack Ovall as he is sometimes known, is the glue that holds the IHB together. Our mystery man is choosing to remain hidden in the shadows. If you want to meet Zovall, you will have to come to an IHB gathering.

What’s next?

Most people will not notice anything has changed. I will continue to write daily posts with market analysis and property profiles. Occasionally, you will see our listings mixed in the property profiles (You should be able to distinguish them by the higher quality pictures and written descriptions), but the blog will go on as before. We are not about to change the very thing that has made us successful.

Over the next few weeks, we will introduce enhancements to the website to integrate it with the brokerage:

  • We will be updating our logo, and we may do some other visual enhancements. We all like the simple look of the IHB, so we will not turn it in to a cheesy realtor website.
  • The “analysis” section will be replaced with a “learning” section, and I will update some of my writings on real estate valuation, and we will add more content about the buying and selling process.
  • We are going to add a second calculator that calculates the proper value for a property as a cashflow investment.
  • We will add a few new pages for buyers and sellers with much of the information contained in this post.
  • We will add a more detailed “about us” section.

Conclusion

We are excited about this new venture. It will be interesting to read the comments over the weekend and gauge the reaction of the IHB community. We are particularly interested in hearing from any potential buyers or sellers.

Would you use the IHB for you next real estate transaction? Why or why not?

Woodbury Under $300,000

When Woodbury started selling, few imagined there would ever be properties available for under $300,000. In fact most imagined that there would be no properties under a million by the time it was built out. It hasn’t worked out that way.

37 Regal Kitchen

Asking Price: $299,000

Address: 37 Regal, Irvine, CA 92620

{book6}

Over the Hills and Far Away — Led Zeppelin

Many times I’ve lied and many times I’ve listened,
many times I’ve wondered how much there is to know.

Many dreams come true and some have silver linings
I live for my dream and a pocketful of gold.

Many of us who watched the housing bubble inflate with horror knew there would be an inevitable crash. We rented; we were “short” real estate when everyone else went “long.” Most of us are still short. I will not exit my short position until it is cheaper to own than it is to rent. At that point, it no longer pays to be short. There will be a silver lining to this disaster. Those of us who wait will have an affordable home, and the economy will improve as well. California’s economy is crippled by all the debt service payments from people’s income going out-of-state. If it costs people less to own their homes, it frees up more money to be spent in our local economy, and everyone benefits.

The housing bubble has been a fascinating study in human nature. We witnessed how the perception of free money causes people to behave in irresponsible ways and take on ridiculous beliefs and attitudes. Now that the bust is upon us, we also get to witness how people adjust to the loss of this free money and all the sad fantasies it created.

There is a morbid fascination with this event. It is something between a Shakespearean Tragedy and a train wreck; it has elements of both. Whatever our reasons for paying attention, it is hard not to watch. I hope everyone has learned lessons about investment, financial management, and the virtue of living a simple life free of attachments because those themes are woven in to all these stories; although, like everyone else, I keep watching because the schadenfreude keeps me wondering, “have we seen every form of idiocy the housing bubble has to offer?” Every week there is something new.

{book2}

37 Regal Kitchen

Asking Price: $299,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $74,750

Downpayment Needed: $59,800

Monthly Equity Burn: $2,491

Purchase Price: $443,500

Purchase Date: 3/27/2006

Address: 37 Regal, Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 1
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 1,000
$/Sq. Ft.: $299
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Mediterranean, Tuscan
Year Built: 2006
Stories: 1
Floor: 1
View: Has View
Area: Woodbury
County: Orange
MLS#: S568652
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 2 days

Enjoy the relaxing lifestyle that will come along with this beautiful
single level home. Property features rich hardwood floors, stunning
crown moldings, upgraded kitchen that boasts a spacious breakfast bar
and views of greenbelts from most of the living area, this home is
perfect for the tech savvy and is wired and ready to go! Enjoy
entertaining your guests in the relaxing court yard, take a dip in one
of the many association pool, roast marsh mellows in the fire pit and
end the evening soaking in the association spa. Close to shopping and
award winning schools!! Home Sweet Home! Wheelchair accessible! More
pictures coming soon.

I was going to comment that this is not a bad description, but then the realtor lapsed into excessive exclamation points at the end and blew it.

37 Regal bedroom

I need a photoshop expert to tell me if the window in this picture has been altered. Why is there an unusual break in the horizon line? and why does the tree on the right look flat?

At least the bed will protect you from mosquitoes. I think I saw one here in California once. I may be mistaken.

This property was purchased on 3/27/2006 for $443,500. The owner used a $354,600 Option ARM first mortgage with a 1% teaser rate, a $44,000 HELOC, and a $44,900 downpayment. I wonder if she was worried about a deteriorating housing market in August of 2007 when she took out an $83,000 second with Countrywide? She did manage to recover her downpayment with that one.

This certainly looks like a flip, and it has not worked out as planned. The option ARM payments have gone up, and it is probably near its mandatory recast at 110% of original value. I would estimate the actual debt on the property is close to $475,000 based on the negative amortization of the first mortgage, the second mortgage and the missed payments.

If this property sells for asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss will be $162,440; although, the actual lender loss will be much higher.

I hope you have enjoyed this week at the Irvine Housing Blog. Come back next week as we
continue chronicling ‘the seventh circle of real estate hell.’ Have a great weekend.

🙂

{book7}

Hey, lady, you got the love I need,
Maybe more than enough.
Oh, Darlin’, Darlin’, Darlin’, walk a while with me,
Oh, you got so much, so much, so much.

Many have I loved, and many times been bitten,
many times I’ve gazed along the open road.

Many times I’ve lied and many times I’ve listened,
many times I’ve wondered how much there is to know.

Many dreams come true and some have silver linings
I live for my dream and a pocketful of gold.

Mellow is the mind who knows what he’s been missin’,
many many men can’t see the open road.

Many is a word that only leaves you guessin’,
Guessin’ ’bout a thing you really ought to know.
You really ought to know.
I really ought to know.

Over the Hills and Far Away — Led Zeppelin

The REO Next Door

Earlier this year I profiled an REO on Lakepines that is now a 2003 rollback. The next-door neighbor is trying to sell for 30% more. Good luck with that.

16 Lakepines inside

Asking Price: $289,000

Address: 16 Lakepines, Irvine, CA 92620

17 Lakepines inside 17 Lakepines kitchen

Asking Price: $375,000

Address: 17 Lakepines, Irvine, CA 92620

Girl Next Door — Saving Jane

I’m a little bitter
Everybody loves her but I just wanna hit her

She’s Miss America and I’m just the girl next door
Oh and I’m just the girl next door

It must be very frustrating for seller when the propery right next to yours is put up for sale at a price 30% less. Those who are most reality-challenged can ignore the huge problem this creates, but buyers and lenders will not. The fact is that a neighboring comp selling at a 30% discount reduces your value 30%. You must either reduce your price or fail to sell the property. Or I suppose there is one more option…

I first profiled one of our two featured properties in by post on Housing and Tax Policy. In January, 16 Lakepines was asking $335,000. The property has been relisted for $289,000.

{book5}

16 Lakepines inside

Asking Price: $289,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $72,250

Downpayment Needed: $57,800

Monthly Equity Burn: $2,408

Purchase Price: $450,000

Purchase Date: 5/18/2006

Address: 16 Lakepines, Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 2
Baths: 2.5
Sq. Ft.: 1,204
$/Sq. Ft.: $240
Lot Size: 868

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Attached, Condominium
Style: Contemporary
Year Built: 1977
Stories: 2
County: Orange
MLS#: C09032959
Source: MRMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 8 days

ANOTHER GREAT LISTED BANK OWNED PROPERTY N THE CITY OF IRVINE. COME
SHOW YOUR CLIENTS THIS AMPLE 2 BEDROOM 2 BATH CONDO CENTRALLY LOCATED
AND SITUATED ON A WELL CARED FOR COMPLEX WITH RELAXING WALKING AREAS.
LARGE PRIVATE PATIO JUST IN TIME FOR THE COMING SUMMER DAYS AMONG THE
AMMENITIES IN THE COMPLEX LIKE POOL AND SPA. PLEASE SEE AGENT REMARKS
IN ORDER TO EXPEDITE PRESENTING YOUR OFFER AND SHOWING INSTRUCTIONS.

ANOTHER GREAT LISTED BANK OWNED PROPERTY N THE CITY OF IRVINE. I love that lead.

I wonder if this REO was listed by an agent, or if the lender thinks that using ALL CAPS is just how property descriptions are written?

The total loss on this property stands at $178,340 assuming it sells for asking and a 6% commission is paid.

Check out this price history.

Date Event Price
Jan 16, 2009 Listed $335,000
Dec 19, 2008 Listed $335,000
May 18, 2006 Sold $450,000
Sep 11, 2003 Sold $329,000
Oct 26, 1999 Sold $155,000
Jun 27, 1991 Sold $157,500
Nov 28, 1990 Sold $122,500
Feb 16, 1989 Sold $137,000

This property is now a 2003 rollback.

{book}

I wonder how short-sale prices are set. The owner of our second property is 30% higher than the neighbor, and it is short sale. As a short-sale seller, why do you care what the price is? You are not paying it; it is a short sale. Is the lender telling this seller, “Price it at $375,000. I don’t care what the comps are?” I can understand stupid pricing when it is being set by greedy and ignorant sellers, but why is the lender demanding… oops, I think I just answered my own question.

17 Lakepines inside 17 Lakepines kitchen

Asking Price: $375,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $93,750

Downpayment Needed: $75,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $3,125

Purchase Price: $457,000

Purchase Date: 1/19/2007

Address: 17 Lakepines, Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 2
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,366
$/Sq. Ft.: $275
Lot Size: 828

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Townhouse
Year Built: 1977
Stories: 2
View: Trees/Woods, Has View
Area: Northwood
County: Orange
MLS#: S563896
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 39 days

Affordable, spacious 2 story home in beautiful, convenient area of
Irvine. Recently painted exterior in modern tones. Entry foyer leads to
sunny morning breakfast nook in tiled kitchen and large formal dining
room overlooking landscaped year patio area. Many tall windows and
vaulted ceilings. Customized living room offers additional wall space!
Skylight brightens big master with vaulted ceiling and private view
balcony. Large 2 car garage w/ direct access. Association includes 2
lighted tennis courts & 2 pool & spa areas. Sold As -Is Short
Sale.

Affordable? Yes, it probably is affordable to someone who would not be willing to live there.

Fortunately, for today’s seller, lenders were still giving out 100% financing in January of 2007; the owner paid $457,000 by using a $365,600 first mortgage, a $91,400 second mortgage and a $0 downpayment. If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total lender loss will be $104,500.

That doesn’t sound so bad, does it? Some lender or investor somewhere is getting a field report saying they will lose around $100,000 on this deal. Based on the property next door, they will really lose closer to $200,000. Is it no wonder everyone is having a hard time pricing toxic assets.

{book7}

Senior class president
She must be heaven sent
She was never the last one standing
A backseat debutaunt
Everything that you want
Never to harsh or too demanding
Maybe I’ll admit it
I’m a little bitter
Everybody loves her but I just wanna hit her

She is the prom queen I’m in the marching band
She is a cheerleader I’m sitting in the stands
She gets the top bunk I’m sleeping on the floor
She’s Miss America and I’m just the girl next door
Oh and I’m just the girl next door

Girl Next Door — Saving Jane