Large Banks Survive on Government Largess

Major US Banks are distressed and closer to collapse than most realize.

Irvine Home Address … 3 RAINBOW Fls #53 Irvine, CA 92603

Resale Home Price …… $613,750

Look into my eyes

Now you're getting sleepy

Are you hypnotized

By secrets that you're keeping?

I know what you're keeping

I know what you're keeping

Got a secret

Can you keep it?

Swear this one you'll save

Better lock it, in your pocket

Taking this one to the grave

If I show you then I know you

Won't tell what I said

Cause two can keep a secret

If one of the m is dead…

The Pierces — Secret

The banks, the federal reserve and our government have been trying to conceal the true level of distress with our banking system. The policies being put forth in Washington only serve to extend this crisis and inhibit economic growth. First, let's take a look at how much REO the banks already have.

JPMorgan, Wells Fargo and BofA each hold more than $20 billion in foreclosures

by KERRY CURRY — Friday, October 22nd, 2010, 4:05 pm

JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo Bank and Bank of America each reported more than $20 billion in single-family mortgages currently foreclosed or in the process of foreclosure as of midyear, according to Weiss Ratings.

In addition, for each dollar these banks held of mortgages in ?foreclosure, they had additional exposure to more than $2 in mortgages that are 30 days or more past due.

"Although only some portion of the past-due loans will ultimately go into foreclosure, these figures tell us that the biggest players are not only in deep, but could sink even deeper into the mortgage mayhem," said Martin D. Weiss, chairman of Weiss Ratings.

As readers here know, part of the reason for the banks having so much REO is because Banks are being Forced to Repurchase Bad Bubble Loans.

Among all U.S. banks, JPMorgan Chase has the largest volume of mortgages in foreclosure or foreclosed with $21.7 billion. It has $43.4 billion in mortgages past due.

Bank of America has a somewhat smaller volume of foreclosures ($20.3 billion), but it has a larger pipeline of past-due mortgages — $54.6 billion. Thus, overall, including all foreclosed and delinquent categories, Bank of America has the largest volume of bad mortgages among U.S. banks, with $74.9 billion, while Wells Fargo has the second largest with $68.6 billion.

Other banks, despite their large size, are less heavily exposed. Citibank has $6.3 billion in foreclosures and $19.2 billion in past-due mortgages, or a total of $25.6 billion. The volume held by other large banks, such as U.S. Bank, PNC Bank, and SunTrust is smaller.

"In addition to the volume of bad mortgages, the vulnerability of each bank to the foreclosure crisis depends on the capital and loan-loss reserves it has set aside to cover losses and other factors such as its earnings, liquidity, reliance on less-stable deposits, and the quality of its overall loan portfolio," Weiss said.

Among banks with $1 billion or more of mortgages already foreclosed or in process of foreclosure, Wells Fargo has the greatest exposure to bad mortgages in proportion to its capital. For each dollar of Tier 1 capital, the bank has 75.4 cents in bad mortgages, or a ratio of 75.4%. The equivalent ratios for JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America and SunTrust are 66.8%, 66% and 57.6%, respectively.

The issue of bank REO is critical to the housing market because How The Lending Cartel Disposes Their REO Will Determine the Market’s Fate. What's worse is that bank REOs are not the only problem as GSE Foreclosures Shatter Record Highs, Keep Climbing.

Also, for every home in REO, there are four that are delinquent on their mortgage and tied up in shadow inventory (Shadow Inventory Signals Three Years of Falling Prices).

Triple Down: Fannie, Freddie, and the Triumph of the Corporate State

October 27, 2010 — The Institutional Risk Analyst

"JOHN BULL can stand many things but he cannot stand two per cent." That aphorism, quoted by Walter Bagehot, a 19th-century editor of The Economist, expressed savers' traditional distaste for very low interest rates. For the first three centuries of the Bank of England's existence, 2% was indeed as low as the central bank was willing to let interest rates fall. Not even the Depression, nor the long Victorian period of stable prices, induced the bank to go any further. Some minimum return on capital was deemed to be required.

Buttonwood

The Economist

September 16, 2010

… Because President Barack Obama and the leaders of both political parties are unwilling to address the housing crisis and the wasting effects on the largest banks, there will be no growth and no net job creation in the U.S. for the next several years. And because the Obama White House is content to ignore the crisis facing millions of American homeowners, who are deep underwater and will eventually default on their loans, the efforts by the Fed to reflate the U.S. economy and particularly consumer spending will be futile. As Alan Meltzer noted to Tom Keene on Bloomberg Radio earlier this year: "This is not a monetary problem."

Government Props Weakened the Housing Market and Delayed the Recovery

Indeed, the public embrace by the Federal Open Market Committee of further quantitative easing or "QE", instead of calling for the immediate restructuring of the largest zombie banks, actually threatens to push the U.S. into a deeper and far more dangerous economic path. According to the Q2 2010 Bank Stress Index survey conducted by IRA and our review of the Q3 2010 earnings results, the financial condition of smaller lenders is actually improving. While the FDIC now has over 800 banks on its troubled list, the righteous banks for which we currently have "positive" outlooks in The IRA Advisory Service are showing better earnings and less credit stress.

Part of the reason for the improvement is that the FDIC and state regulators have taken a very hard line with smaller banks, pushing many into resolutions and distressed asset sales. But for the healthy lenders that survive and investors that buy failed banks, there will be a lot of money left on the table — profits that will come back into earnings via recoveries and other windfalls and help to boost the private economy. Resolution and liquidation is how a free market economy regenerates. The trouble is, the approach taken with the large banks and the GSEs is precisely the opposite of that applied to smaller lenders. The policy of the Fed and Treasury with respect to the large banks is state socialism write large, without even the pretense of a greater public good.

Forget Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner lying about the relatively small losses at American International Group (AIG), the fraud and obfuscation now underway in Washinton to protect the TBTF banks and GSEs totals into the trillions of dollars and rises to the level of treason. And the sad part is that all of the temporizing and excuses by the Fed and the White House will be for naught. The zombie banks and GSEs alike will muddle along until the operational cost of servicing bad loans engulfs them. Then they will be bailed out — again — or restructured. …

Living in a Post Bubble World: What's Next?

Pictures of Deflation

Comments by Christopher Whalen American Enterprise Institute October 6, 2010

Is the Subprime Crisis Over?

  • No. The improvement in bank loan default rates is a mirage. The use of loan modification to make bad credits appear “current” is an economic fraud perpetrated by Washington that is already becoming apparent via foreclosure moratoria.
  • Mounting cash flow stress on all lenders is reaching crisis levels. Non-payment by borrowers and mounting foreclosure backlogs are creating the conditions for the collapse of some of the largest U.S. banks in 2011.

Chart 1: Efficiency

  • First stage of the banking crisis involved stress on liquidity due to market contagion. TARP, the Fed, FDIC responded with liquidity and debt guarantees.
  • The second stage involved stress on capital via charge- offs and loan loss reserves, both of which drove banks into record levels of loss.
  • The third stage of the banking crisis involves degradation of bank operating efficiency as restructuring accelerates, expenses rise and lenders involuntarily become non-operating REITs.

Lenders are becoming non-operating REITs. In the first story, we documented that the banks now own billions in non-performing real estate. At some point, banks no longer operate by making loans and collecting interest, they operate by buying property at foreclosure and collecting rent just like a REIT. When you buy bank stocks, are you really buying a disguised REIT? I think you are, except that REITs are generally well managed, and bank portfolios are not.

Chart 2: Net Interest Income

  • Many on Wall Street believe that net interest margin or NIM among U.S. banks is at record levels. They are right, but not in the way that many investors and analysts expect.
  • Unfortunately, measured in dollars, the NIM of the banking industry has been cut by a third over the past three years due to the Fed’s zero interest rate policy. Banks are literally dying from lack of yield on assets due to the Fed’s ZIRP.

The long-term problem with lowering interest rates to boost bank profits is that the yield curve flattens and the banks margins get squeezed. When banks could borrow at 0% and loan money for mortgages at 6%, the margins were helpful, and the banks had opportunity to recover; however, over time, competition drives down long term rates and flattens the yield curve. Banks are still borrowing at 0%, but now they can only loan at about 4.25%, a significant decline in margin.

Chart 3: Non-Interest Income

  • In 2005-2007 period when the subprime frenzy peaked, non-interest revenue for U.S. banks reached a record $80 billion. Expenses, conversely, were muted as defaults disappeared, but are now growing rapidly.
  • Since 2007, the non-interest revenue of all U.S. banks has fallen by over $10 billion. Non-interest expenses at U.S. banks will continue to increase due to residential and commercial foreclosures.

If bank portfolios weren't so poor operated, the non-interest income would be rising and non-performing loans would be converted to performing rentals.

For example, right now in Las Vegas, I can buy properties and obtain a 9% return based on rental cashflow, so I know the banks can too. If they began renting out their REO, they can obtain income superior to the loan interest they would obtain on a 4.25% note. In fact, I think they are rather foolish for not renting out more of their REO in beaten down markets like Las Vegas.

Chart 4: Exposure at Default (EAD)

  • U.S. banks continue to shrink their unused credit lines to limit exposure to default. The shrinkage in EAD is also a function of slack demand for credit in a deflating economy.
  • The combinations of still-record default rates and rising servicing costs related to foreclosures is making banks hyper-cautious about credit. The muddle along policy of Obama and Geithner = no net credit growth.
  • Chart on the following page shows unused credit lines for BAC, C. JPM and the large-bank peer group created by The IRA Bank Monitor. Note all have greatly reduced EAD.

Conclusions

  • The U.S. banking industry is entering a new period of crisis where operating costs are rising dramatically due to foreclosures and defaults. We are less than 1⁄4 of the way through the foreclosure process. Laurie Goodman of Amherst Securities predicts that 1 in 5 mortgages could go into foreclosure without radical action.
  • Rising operating costs in banks will be more significant than in past recessions and could force the U.S. government to restructure some large lenders as expenses overwhelm revenue. BAC, JPM, GMAC foreclosure moratoriums only the start of the crisis that threatens the financial foundations of the entire U.S. political economy.
  • The largest U.S. banks remain insolvent and must continue to shrink. Failure by the Obama Administration to restructure the largest banks during 2007-2009 period only means that this process is going to occur over next three to five years – whether we like it or not. The issue is recognizing existing losses — not if a loss occurred.
  • Impending operational collapse of some of the largest U.S. banks will serve as the catalyst for re-creation of RFC-type liquidation vehicle(s) to handle the operational task of finally deflating the subprime bubble. End of the liquidation cycle of the deflating bubble will arrive in another four to five years.

I guess that means I will have plenty of properties to recycle over the next several years.

Live the Irvine HELOC abuse lifestyle

Let's be real honest about Californian's love affair with real estate: everyone here wants to spend the free money that comes out of the walls. People here believe house prices go up by magic, so all they have to do is buy and they get rich. Of course, if that believe is widely held, it is self-fulfilling — to a point. Trees cannot grow to the sky.

The owner of today's featured property regularly went to the housing ATM to spend the deposits left by the appreciation gods. in the process, he borrowed himself into oblivion, and now he is selling short after 14 years of loan ownership. He is probably pissed because no greater fool was willing to step forward and overpay for his run down property.

  • This property was purchased on 5/3/1996 for $360,000. The owner used a $207,000 first mortgage and a $153,000 down payment.
  • On 4/4/2002 he refinanced the first mortgage for $202,000. For the first six years of ownership, he had the mortgage going in the right direction.
  • On 10/7/2003 he obtained a new first mortgage for $251,000. That $49,000 was his first taste of kool aid, and it changed his financial life.
  • On 6/24/2005 he refinanced with a $338,000 first mortgage.
  • On 4/25/2006 he got a $432,000 first mortgage.
  • On 6/14/2007 he refinanced with an Option ARM for $595,000.
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal is $388,000 plus negative amortization.
  • Total squatting time is about a year so far.

Foreclosure Record

Recording Date: 02/01/2010

Document Type: Notice of Default

Realistically, they will put off foreclosing on this guy as long as they can. The banks are praying prices will come back with sufficient volume to clear out guys like this. That isn't happening, and it isn't going to happen.

Irvine Home Address … 3 RAINBOW Fls #53 Irvine, CA 92603

Resale Home Price … $613,750

Home Purchase Price … $360,000

Home Purchase Date …. 5/3/1996

Net Gain (Loss) ………. $216,925

Percent Change ………. 60.3%

Annual Appreciation … 3.6%

Cost of Ownership

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$613,750 ………. Asking Price

$122,750 ………. 20% Down Conventional

4.23% …………… Mortgage Interest Rate

$491,000 ………. 30-Year Mortgage

$116,181 ………. Income Requirement

$2,410 ………. Monthly Mortgage Payment

$532 ………. Property Tax

$0 ………. Special Taxes and Levies (Mello Roos)

$51 ………. Homeowners Insurance

$490 ………. Homeowners Association Fees

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$3,483 ………. Monthly Cash Outlays

-$396 ………. Tax Savings (% of Interest and Property Tax)

-$679 ………. Equity Hidden in Payment

$186 ………. Lost Income to Down Payment (net of taxes)

$77 ………. Maintenance and Replacement Reserves

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$2,671 ………. Monthly Cost of Ownership

Cash Acquisition Demands

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$6,138 ………. Furnishing and Move In @1%

$6,138 ………. Closing Costs @1%

$4,910 ………… Interest Points @1% of Loan

$122,750 ………. Down Payment

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$139,935 ………. Total Cash Costs

$40,900 ………… Emergency Cash Reserves

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$180,835 ………. Total Savings Needed

Property Details for 3 RAINBOW Fls #53 Irvine, CA 92603

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Beds: 3

Baths: 2 full 1 part baths

Home size: 2,246 sq ft

($273 / sq ft)

Lot Size: n/a

Year Built: 1976

Days on Market: 96

Listing Updated: 40459

MLS Number: S625787

Property Type: Condominium, Residential

Community: Turtle Rock

Tract: Gh

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Based on our analysis of the description, this listing may be a short sale or in a stage of pre-foreclosure.

Rare Below Market Opportunity in Prestigious Turtle Rock / Irvine This is a pre-approved short sale that can close quickly. The approval includes a significant credit repairs, new paint, flooring and fixtures. A great opportunity for the buyer looking for a home in the prestigious Turtle Rock community of Irvine. The home has 2,246 Sq Ft of living space, plenty of closet space and storage, crown molding throughout and need only misc. repairs, new paint, flooring and court yard landscaping. Make an offer now and select the paint colors, new flooring and fixture styles. Enjoy the walking paths, great schools and excellent location while buying a home with immediate equity.

The approval includes a significant credit repairs? I would think a short sale would include significant credit destruction….

Kool Aid Intoxicated Lender Apologizes for Bubble Lies

Some of the biggest participants in the housing bubble are now apologizing for the wanton destruction their actions inflicted on ordinary families.

Irvine Home Address … 4 TONADA Dr Irvine, CA 92620

Resale Home Price …… $519,900

Two vibrant hearts could change.

Nothing tears the being more than deception,

unmasked fear.

"I'll be here waiting" tested and secure.

Nothing hurts my world,

just affects the ones around me.

When sin's deep in my blood,

you'll be the one to fall.

Avenged Sevenfold — Unholy Confessions

Confession is good for a troubled conscience. Many people made huge fortunes duping ordinary families into transactions that ultimately cost them their good credit and their family homes. Last week I noted that Countrywide’s Mozilo Should Go to Jail. Now, a former Freddie Mac employee has come forward to confess that ruining lives was his job, and he was better at it than he would have liked to be.

Housing Guy Apologizes For Housing Bubble

by Chana Joffe-Walt and Adam Davidson — October 22, 2010

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have worked for decades to help more Americans become homeowners. Now one former Freddie Mac employee has asked us for the opportunity to apologize for doing such a good job of fulfilling that mission.

Jacob Kosoff used to work as an economist for Freddie Mac's "Mission Department." His job was to look at the loan data each month and promote homeownership. He says his team was full of true believers who called themselves "housers."

This guy was a missionary for the cult of kool aid.

"I thought subprime was the best thing in the world," he says.

It was not until the spring of 2008, just months before Freddie would be bailed out by the federal government, that Kosoff began to question his fundamental belief that owning a home was better than renting.

He mentioned his concerns in the office.

"It was a bit like announcing there was no God — like the idea that housing was like God," he says. "Buying is always better. Listen to your mom, listen to your minister, listen to the government, listen to politicians. Everyone says it's better."

This shows how deeply embedded kool aid has become in our society.

There's one thing in particular that Kosoff would like to apologize for.

While at Freddie Mac, Kosoff managed an online calculator designed to help people determine whether to rent or buy a house. In fact, it's still online — you can see it here.

You plug in the cost of rent, cost of renters insurance, and the price of an equivalent home. Then it asks you to punch in an estimated appreciation rate for the home — how much you think the home's price will change over time. But if you plug in a negative number — if you estimate that the home will lose value — the calculator gives you an error message:

Rent Buy Calculator

Freddie Mac

"I'm sorry that I didn't send an e-mail or work a little harder to get that fixed so the calculator can allow for the possibility of reality," Kosoff says — the reality that housing prices sometimes decline.

Kosoff wonders if some people used the calculator to come to a very bad decision: to buy an overpriced house with a subprime mortgage when they should have rented instead.

Or course people bought based on the results of this calculator. That was the whole point. All the online rent versus buy calculators — with the exception of ours — are designed to ignore costs and exaggerate benefits in order to induce people to buy. These calculators are generally sponsored by some person or entity whose livelihood depends on coercing people to buy.

Freddie Mac says it plans to fix the calculator to allow for the possibility that housing prices do not always go up — a reality we are all living through right now.

Many people have asked me why I don't put in the ability to project forward for inflation of costs and appreciation. There are several related reasons, but the primary among them is that any projection of the future will invariably exaggerate the benefit of ownership. Nearly all prospective buyers and existing homeowners think house prices go up faster than they do. House prices usually track wage growth (about 3%), but most people believe house prices go up two or three times that fast. Many accept that California house prices go up 6% to 10% a year as a truism. It's not.

Steady side income

Orange County is a hotbed for entrepreneurs. Many people either make their living or supplement their living from entrepreneurial activities. Nearly every homeowner in California — or at least all the ones who have been selling their homes over the last 4 years — have been living like entrepreneurs with a steady side income. When people make $80,000 a year and their house provides $40,000 a year, they get to live the OC lifestyle. People from the outside don't get out house prices until they see how paying those prices enables Californian's to live.

  • Today's featured property was purchased on 5/29/1998 for $199,500 according to my records. I think this number is in error because there is a $202,950 first mortgage on the property. In all likelihood, that was an FHA loan, and the real purchase price was $210,000.
  • On 4/21/1999 they obtained a stand-alone second for $11,631.
  • On 9/17/2001 they refinanced the first mortgage for $229,800.
  • On 12/3/2001 they got a $45,000 HELOC.
  • On 7/9/2003 they refinanced the first mortgage for $271,000
  • On 12/9/2003 they refinanced with a $305,000 first mortgage.
  • On 6/18/2004 they opened a HELOC for $122,000.
  • On 7/20/2006 they opened a HELOC for $100,000.
  • On 9/28/2006 they opened a HELOC for $52,882.
  • On 9/28/2006 they opened a HELOC for $47,118. Notice the simultaneous HELOCs. That is mortgage fraud.
  • On 2/20/2008 they refinanced the first mortgage for $400,000.
  • On 7/3/2008 they refinanced again for $399,400.
  • On 12/5/2008 they refinanced with a $398,500 first mortgage. I have to wonder if someone in the family is a mortgage broker.
  • On 4/23/2009 they refinanced with a $410,000 first mortgage.
  • That is 13 refinances or HELOCs in a 10 year period.
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal is $207,050.

What amazes me about this behavior is that banks continued to support it as late as April of 2009. Isn't it obvious that this borrower has gone Ponzi? I suppose lenders love customers like this as they generate huge fees, but this behavior is exactly what caused banks to loan out too much money to the wrong people during the housing bubble. Apparently, lenders haven't learned anything from that experience.

Irvine Home Address … 4 TONADA Dr Irvine, CA 92620

Resale Home Price … $519,900

Home Purchase Price … $192,000

Home Purchase Date …. 6/17/1988

Net Gain (Loss) ………. $296,706

Percent Change ………. 154.5%

Annual Appreciation … 4.4%

Cost of Ownership

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$519,900 ………. Asking Price

$103,980 ………. 20% Down Conventional

4.23% …………… Mortgage Interest Rate

$415,920 ………. 30-Year Mortgage

$98,415 ………. Income Requirement

$2,041 ………. Monthly Mortgage Payment

$451 ………. Property Tax

$0 ………. Special Taxes and Levies (Mello Roos)

$43 ………. Homeowners Insurance

$285 ………. Homeowners Association Fees

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$2,820 ………. Monthly Cash Outlays

-$335 ………. Tax Savings (% of Interest and Property Tax)

-$575 ………. Equity Hidden in Payment

$158 ………. Lost Income to Down Payment (net of taxes)

$65 ………. Maintenance and Replacement Reserves

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$2,132 ………. Monthly Cost of Ownership

Cash Acquisition Demands

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$5,199 ………. Furnishing and Move In @1%

$5,199 ………. Closing Costs @1%

$4,159 ………… Interest Points @1% of Loan

$103,980 ………. Down Payment

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$118,537 ………. Total Cash Costs

$32,600 ………… Emergency Cash Reserves

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$151,137 ………. Total Savings Needed

Property Details for 4 TONADA Dr Irvine, CA 92620

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Beds: 3

Baths: 2 full 1 part baths

Home size: 1,800 sq ft

($289 / sq ft)

Lot Size: 1,891 sq ft

Year Built: 1977

Days on Market: 93

Listing Updated: 40459

MLS Number: S626236

Property Type: Single Family, Residential

Community: Northwood

Tract: Sd

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** REDUCED $20,000 ** you are looking to live in Northwood, this is a must see! Large living room with fireplace, Huge dining area, Family room, Wood flooring, New carpeting, Open kitchen, Large secondary bedrooms, Fireplace in master bedroom, Newer double paned windows & Oversized two car garage.

Home Price Drop Sudden and Dramatic

Home prices are rolling over as expected. Look for the declines to pick up speed over the next four to five months.

Irvine Home Address … 10 FUCHSIA Irvine, CA 92604

Resale Home Price …… $429,900

You know I wouldn’t want to make you feel worse then you should

But if you were me you’d do the same (you know you would, you know you would)

It’s not that hard to say your wrong admit it oh go on, go on

It mean everything, just to hear you say to me

That I was right, and you were wrong

It’s not that hard go on, go on

New Years Day — I Was Right

Last week I profiled a neighborhood in Irvine that inexplicably dropped about 20% in value since the tax credit expired. As it turns out, widespread price declines are beginning to show up in the aggregate statistics. The leg down we have been expecting this fall and winter is happening now.

Clear Capital: Home price drop sudden and dramatic

by KERRY CURRY — Friday, October 22nd, 2010, 12:25 pm

Clear Capital said a 6%, two-month decline in home prices represents a magnitude and speed not seen since March 2009.

“Clear Capital’s latest data through Oct. 22 shows even more pronounced price declines than our most recent (Home Data Index) market report released two weeks ago,” said Alex Villacorta, senior statistician with data analytics firm. “At the national level, home prices are clearly experiencing a dramatic drop from the tax credit-induced highs, effectively wiping out all of the gains obtained during the flurry of activity just preceding the tax credit expiration.”

In other words, the billions the government spent trying to prop up the housing market was a complete waste of taxpayer dollars. We are right back were we started. Since I have consistently maintained that would be the result, I won't pretend to be surprised.

Prices are now at the same level as in mid-April, two weeks prior to the expiration of the federal homebuyer tax credit. The drop, in advance of typical winter housing market slowdowns, paints an ominous picture that will likely show up in other housing indices in the coming months.

If previous correlations between the Clear Capital and S&P/Case-Shiller indices continue as expected, the next two months will show a similar downward trend in S&P/Case-Shiller numbers.

I have also consistently stated we will see the Case-Shiller roll over this fall and winter. We will likely take out the false bottom formed in April of 2009. The bear rally is officially over.

Clear Capital uses rolling quarter intervals that compare the most recent four months to the previous three months. The rolling quarters have no fixed start date and can be used to generate indices as data flows in, the multi-month lag time experienced with other indices.

See chart below:

So where does this leave us? If home prices take another steep drop, the resulting strategic defaults will end the bank's denial and may lead to another TARP bailout, only this time, some believe the bailout will benefit loan owners instead.

Shilling Thinks Housing Will Fall Another 20%, But Many Homeowners Will Get Bailed Out

Matt Schifrin — Oct. 18 2010 – 2:55 pm

I just got off the telephone with economist, Forbes magazine columnist and newsletter editor Gary Shilling. As you probably know by now, Gary has been spot-on in his predictions on the economy, global markets and housing.

I asked him what was new and he told me that he had revised his forecast for housing. Here are some of his comments :

If I am right and we see another 20% decline in housing prices, then we figure that the number of mortgages underwater will go from 23% to 40%. That is a huge amount and at some point the dam breaks,” says Shilling.

Why does the dam have to break? Nobody thought we would get this many underwater loan owners. Why didn't it break at 10% or 20%?

What would really cause problems is loan owner capitulation. If and when loan owners give up hope and accelerate their defaults, banks will have to deal with several million more delinquent squatters. So far they have been dealing with it through a combination of denial and government assistance. Why would a few million more delinquent squatters make any difference?

That’s bad news for the economy and bad news for homeowners and real estate brokers. It’s also bad news for banks and the stock market.

Shilling went on to say that if there is a bright spot in all this gloom it probably will benefit the profligate spending homeowners, who were lured by men like Angelo Mozilo into homes and mortgages they couldn’t afford.

Bailing out HELOC abusers is a bright spot? Perhaps for the HELOC abusers, but not for anyone else.

“Home ownership still has a lot of political clout in this country,” said Shilling. ” By hook or by crook, the politicians will come up with some kind of bailout for a lot of people underwater on their mortgages.”

In other words it doesn’t help anyone to have millions of homeowners foreclosed on and thrown into the street. Gary estimates that houses that are foreclosed on and vacant lose an average of $1,000 per month in value as long as they remain unsold. He adds that all the scrutiny that banks are under fire over concerning foreclosure procedures is creating the perfect environment for a massive bail-out of deadbeat homeowners.

If we bail out HELOC abusers, we will have made the final transition to "banana republic" status. You see the borrowers I profile here every day. Do you want your tax money to go toward paying off their debts? While you were being frugal and playing by the rules, they were out spending like kool aid intoxicated owners and having a good time. Now they are looking to you to pick up the tab.

Perhaps I am too cynical, but I also wonder if this story isn't a plant to convince underwater homeowners to stay on a bit longer and make a few more payments. If there is a false or feeble hope of principal forgiveness, many considering accelerated default may delay the inevitable to see what happens. This is exactly the kind of story the banks want to have circulating the web.

Gary thinks we need a Resolution Trust Corp (RTC) type solution for the housing market. You may remember that the RTC was set up by the Office of Thrift Supervision in the 1980s to deal with hundreds of insolvent thrifts who, like homeowners, got in way over their heads. Some of them invested in Mike Milken junk bonds, others invested in real estate and other highly leveraged loans.

The RTC entered into a number of equity partnerships to help liquidate real estate and other assets it had inherited from insolvent thrift institutions. Gary says the key to the RTC’s success was that it acted relatively quickly and that is what is needed for the housing market in order to lift the giant overhang caused by our zombie homeowner situation.

We don't need an RTC-type institution to clear out the housing inventory. What we need is for the banks to foreclose on the squatters and put the houses back on the market. The sooner we get this done, the sooner the housing market bottoms and the sooner we can get back to a healthy real estate market. Amend-extend-pretend creates an overhand of supply that will hinder economic growth for a decade.

I reminded Gary that many investors got rich from buying assets of troubled savings and loans, including billionaire Leon Black. We shall see who steps up this time. Any guesses?

Me for one. There are many people stepping up to buy these troubled assets. Cash is king in the aftermath of a debt-fueled asset bubble.

They thought it would be okay

Many of the Irvine equity strippers really believed everything would work out to their advantage. The value of their property was steadily climbing, and the magic of California real estate assured them prices would rise forever. Taking out all the equity to spend it seemed like no big deal. What's the worst that could happen?

Well, if they over-borrowed based on ever-increasing home prices, and if they can't afford the debt service payments, they may be forced to sell. If prices go down, they can't sell, and they end up in short sale or foreclosure. Welcome to the reality of many of those who spent their houses.

  • Today's featured property was purchased for $335,000 on 3/19/2002. The owners used a $268,000 first mortgage, a $50,250 second mortgage, and a $16,750 down payment.
  • On 4/8/2002 they obtained a $67,000 HELOC which allowed them to consolidate the second mortgage and withdraw all of their down payment. It took them less than three weeks to get their money back out of the property.
  • On 5/23/2003 they refinanced with a $304,000 first mortgage and a $38,000 HELOC.
  • On 8/23/2003 they obtained a $76,000 HELOC.
  • On 4/20/2004 they obtained a $98,000 HELOC.
  • On 10/26/2004 they refinanced with a $448,000 first mortgage.
  • On 11/29/2004 they got a $100,000 HELOC.
  • Total property debt is $548,000.
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal is $229,750.
  • Total squatting time is about 18 months so far.

Foreclosure Record

Recording Date: 10/23/2009

Document Type: Notice of Sale

Foreclosure Record

Recording Date: 07/20/2009

Document Type: Notice of Default

Since they stopped going to the housing ATM in 2004 and prices went up thereafter, I think these borrowers knew they were getting overextended and chose not to go Ponzi. They were trying to be somewhat responsible. Unfortunately, it was too late.

Irvine Home Address … 10 FUCHSIA Irvine, CA 92604

Resale Home Price … $429,900

Home Purchase Price … $335,000

Home Purchase Date …. 3/19/2002

Net Gain (Loss) ………. $69,106

Percent Change ………. 20.6%

Annual Appreciation … 2.8%

Cost of Ownership

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$429,900 ………. Asking Price

$15,047 ………. 3.5% Down FHA Financing

4.23% …………… Mortgage Interest Rate

$414,854 ………. 30-Year Mortgage

$81,379 ………. Income Requirement

$2,036 ………. Monthly Mortgage Payment

$373 ………. Property Tax

$0 ………. Special Taxes and Levies (Mello Roos)

$36 ………. Homeowners Insurance

$280 ………. Homeowners Association Fees

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$2,724 ………. Monthly Cash Outlays

-$321 ………. Tax Savings (% of Interest and Property Tax)

-$574 ………. Equity Hidden in Payment

$23 ………. Lost Income to Down Payment (net of taxes)

$54 ………. Maintenance and Replacement Reserves

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$1,906 ………. Monthly Cost of Ownership

Cash Acquisition Demands

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$4,299 ………. Furnishing and Move In @1%

$4,299 ………. Closing Costs @1%

$4,149 ………… Interest Points @1% of Loan

$15,047 ………. Down Payment

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$27,793 ………. Total Cash Costs

$29,200 ………… Emergency Cash Reserves

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$56,993 ………. Total Savings Needed

Property Details for 10 FUCHSIA Irvine, CA 92604

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Beds: 3

Baths: 2 full 1 part baths

Home size: 1,495 sq ft

($288 / sq ft)

Lot Size: 1,495 sq ft

Year Built: 1974

Days on Market: 408

Listing Updated: 40403

MLS Number: S589143

Property Type: Condominium, Townhouse, Residential

Community: El Camino Real

Tract: Db

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According to the listing agent, this listing may be a pre-foreclosure or short sale.

This is a beautiful home with 3 bedrooms 2.5 baths, formal living room with fire place, dining room, kitchen with granite counters, extra room off kitchen that is great for eating area or many have used this area as a family room with sofas and TV area, upstairs family room and office area, this home has a nice patio that leads to a 2 car garage. Close to great schools and shopping!

Are you ready to pay to bail out the HELOC abusers?

IHB News 10-22-2010

This weekend, I have a tiny condo with a huge loss for the bank as well as another brief guest post.

Irvine Home Address … 78 LAMPLIGHTER Irvine, CA 92620

Resale Home Price …… $333,000

You gotta help me out

It's all a blur last night

We need a taxi 'cause you're hung-over and I'm broke

I lost my fake ID but you lost the motel key

Spare me your freakin' dirty looks

Now don't blame me

You want to cash out and get the hell out of town

Don't be a baby

Remember what you told me

Shut up and put your money where your mouth is

That's what you get for waking up in Vegas

Get up and shake the glitter off your clothes now

That's what you get for waking up in Vegas

Katy Perry — Waking Up In Vegas

Writer's Corner

I have been extremely busy lately. The responsibilities of being an entrepreneur are both exhilarating and exhausting. I have many great Las Vegas stories, and when I get a moment to breathe, I will start to write more about them. No drunken debauchery (I don't drink, and I am happily married), but I have been negotiating cash-for-keys, getting into title disputes with Fannie Mae, cleaning out Sanford and Son's property, and generally having a great time.

I have received several emails from investors concerning my progress. I should have the subscribers website up next weekend. I am still setting up the accounting system, and until I have detailed and accurate reports, the website will not be ready. Just so you all know, the fund currently owns 5 properties, and despite the usual headaches associated with this kind of work, I am very pleased with the margins.

Writing for the IHB is a great creative release for me, but I have been so busy, I haven't been able to devote the time to it I should. As I get my systems in place, my job should get a little easier, and I will put more time back into my writing.

Guest Post

THE REAL STORY ABOUT YOUR HOME

Roger Banowetz, Retired City Building Inspector ICBO Certified, cell (714) 401-5980

Second lesson: What about Termites and dry-rot

Here is the truth about termites; it is not like you see on T.V. or what you have been told how it affects your home; termites are in almost every home, and termites don’t just come to your home and stay there until your house is all eaten up. That’s not how it works.

Don’t be afraid. Termites come and go, and they are not monogamist to your home. It takes many years to do significant damage, and most important you do not ever have to use any poison in your home ever. The official code says (paraphrasing) if you have termite or dry-rot in or on the lumber you must remove and replace infected area with new lumber and your home is back to original. Think of it, contractors cover your home and fill the whole home with “harmless” gas, and this gas goes though drywall and beams and kills the bugs but doesn’t leave any poison on your carpet or floors for your children or your animals. Of course, it does, and down the road your animals get sick and you don’t know why.

Some termite inspectors will try to scare you by telling you your home is in danger and that is not true as long as you keep up normal maintaince, this is not magic you can see the same things inspectors can see so if you knock on your door or window frames and termite dust falls out but you don’t see any termites then they were there and are now gone. In that case just replace the infected wood, but if you see termites then there are other ways to take care of the problem. Orange oil is a way, borax is another. The point is don’t be afraid of your home. If you have questions call your local building dept. Let your city be your friend, and if have concerns about your city please call me and I will be your friend.

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Fri Oct 22 2010

Bay Area house sales continue slump; San Francisco prices decline (latimesblogs.latimes.com)

Calif. home sales drop 18 percent in Sept. (mercurynews.com)

Drop in Mortgage Applications Reflects Foreclosure Crisis, Rising Rates (dailyfinance.com)

House goes from $3.1M to $1.85M in 3 years (huntingtonhomes.ocregister.com)

Hamptons House Prices Fall as Buyers Seek Lower-Priced Retreats (bloomberg.com)

Calif. Pensions Cost Each Resident $3,000/year (cbs13.com)

If we all smoke a lot of dope, we can close California's budget gap (money.cnn.com)

Credit Card Use Bolsters Self-Worth (miller-mccune.com)

Eviction battle looms over foreclosed Simi house (vcstar.com)

Fannie, Freddie bailout could nearly double in size. No surpise there. (washingtonpost.com)

The Lawyers Who Fight Foreclosures (online.wsj.com)

Mortgage Mess: Shredding the Dream; Major Fight over Enormous Losses Yet to Come (Mish)

Banks' legal troubles mount as everyone seeks payback (miamiherald.com)

China Hides Rampant Inflation in Money Binge (bloomberg.com)

American housing still too expensive (doctorhousingbubble.com)

Patrick's Property Finder Now Includes Fair Value Estimates (patrick.net)

Actually, Obama is a pretty good president (politifact.com)

Christine O'Donnell Witch Ad (youtube.com)

Christine O'Donnell Witch Ad Parody (youtube.com)

"The Rent Is Too Damn High" Party (biggeekdad.com)


Thu Oct 21 2010

Recession Worse in SF Than Dot-Com Bust, Distress Index Shows (baycitizen.org)

SoCal housing market 'on hold' (ocregister.com)

Private islands tough sell in current market (seattletimes.nwsource.com)

Graph of balance of power between buyers and sellers (baltimoresun.com)

Where Is The Housing Recovery? (forbes.com)

Statement On The Kotok Plagiarism Used in Forbes Link Above (gonzalolira.blogspot.com)

Chicago Sheriff Says NO to Enforcing Foreclosures (4closurefraud.org)

Answers to Your Questions on the Foreclosure Crisis (economix.blogs.nytimes.com)

Most shocking discovery yet about how banks hid their toxic mortgages (slate.com)

Largest Financial Swindle in World History (georgewashington2.blogspot.com)

Now THAT Was a Gold Bubble (timiacono.com)

Officials hint Fed on the verge of more easing (finance.yahoo.com)

English mortgage lending drops to 10 year low, despite low interest rates (telegraph.co.uk)

Fed Wants Banks to Buy Back Some Bad Mortgages (nytimes.com)

PIMCO, Blackrock, Fed Seek to Force BofA to Repurchase $47 Billion in Bad Mortgages (Mish)

Bank of America Accused of Racketeering in Foreclosure Lawsuit (bloomberg.com)

US Housing Market Foreclosure-gate Doomsday Revolution Erupts (marketoracle.co.uk)

Intermission, at Best, in Battle Over Foreclosures (nytimes.com)

Foreclosure freeze could put security clearances at risk (washingtonpost.com)

How Can I Profit The Most On The Coming Legalization of Mortgage Fraud? (dvorak.org)

Rational housing valuations


Wed Oct 20 2010

10% Unemployment; Unemployed Don't Buy Houses (Mish)

Subprime Debacle Act II (seekingalpha.com)

From $1.5 million down to $630,000 in Huntington Beach, CA (doctorhousingbubble.com)

'Foreclosure Mill' Employees Got Gifts For Altering Documents (huffingtonpost.com)

Pimco, NY Fed Said to Seek BofA Repurchase of Mortgages (bloomberg.com)

A market with no mortgages (patrick.net)

How Much Will Foreclosures Weigh Down Big Banks? (dailyfinance.com)

Mortgage Buybacks May Cost Lenders $120 Billion (businessweek.com)

Why should we pay taxes if borrowers don't pay mortgages? (globalresearch.ca)

House Stealing (lewrockwell.com)

Fed Ignores Gold, Targets Higher Inflation And Plays With Fire (forbes.com)

U.S. Infrastructure Spending: No Time to Get Cheap (businessweek.com)

Arguments For Restoring Top Tax Rates (businessforsharedprosperity.org)

Thank You Julia G. ($10) for your kind donation.

Rational housing valuations


Tue Oct 19 2010

Barney Frank Is Anything But On Housing (investors.com)

Government's mortgage subsidies are screwing families and houseowners (finance.yahoo.com)

The higher the price, the harder to sell the house (lansner.ocregister.com)

Shilling Thinks Housing Will Fall Another 20%, But Owners Will Get Bailed Out (forbes.com)

The Second Leg Down of America's Death Spiral (gonzalolira.blogspot.com)

Why Germany Has It So Good — and Why America Is Going Down the Drain (informationclearinghouse.info)

Our Culture of Financial Fraud and the Anger of the Honest (Charles Hugh Smith)

They're still smoking our old dope in Australia (news.com.au)

India: Manic buying before a likely panic collapse (indiainfoline.com)

Witness: signatures were faked at foreclosure firm (signonsandiego.com)

Victims of robo-signing scandal won't get their houses back (money.cnn.com)

Florida community feels ripple effects as paperwork issues stall foreclosures (washingtonpost.com)

Bank of America starts thaw in foreclosure freeze (news.yahoo.com)

Mortgage Investors Join Outcry Against Banks (propublica.org)

Wells Fargo Prepares For Tsunami Of Loan Repurchase Demands By Defrauded Investors (zerohedge.com)

Forget The Foreclosures, Here's The Simple Thing That Is Crushing The Banks (businessinsider.com)

The New Tax Man: Big Banks And Hedge Funds (huffingtonpost.com)

Rational housing valuations


Mon Oct 18 2010

Even well-off borrowers find lenders reluctant to lend (msnbc.msn.com)

32% of Houseowners Expect Prices Fall Next Year, Highest Short-Term Pessimism Ever (Mish)

House Sellers Fail To Cut Prices Enough (rismedia.com)

From a Maine House, a National Foreclosure Freeze (finance.yahoo.com)

Charting the Foreclosure Crisis's Far-Reaching Consequences (dailyfinance.com)

Winners and losers from a foreclosure holiday (washingtonpost.com)

Title company threatening to sue me! (patrick.net)

Banks Fumble Amid Flood Of Foreclosures (npr.org)

Banks were paid 100% for defaulted loans in HAMP (4closurefraud.org)

New Bank Bailouts Under Dodd-Frank Within 12 Months (dailybail.com)

Angelo Mozilo gets to keep 85% of his $470M in ill-gotten gains. What justice? (reuters.com)

Scrutinizing the Elite, Whether They Like It or Not (nytimes.com)

Dreams of the middle class deferred by the recession (csmonitor.com)

Millions of dollars in welfare goes to pay bank fees (sfgate.com)

For America's Future, See Japan (nytimes.com)

No Social Security Increase Next Year (nytimes.com)

Stocks Track Hyperinflation (businessinsider.com)

Can You Live Without Money For a Year? (motherjones.com)

Bank of America Announces Trivial Technical Problems With Small Number of Mortgages (ritholtz.com)

Rational housing valuations

38% off the peak

The bank is losing a fortune on this tiny condo.

Irvine Home Address … 78 LAMPLIGHTER Irvine, CA 92620

Resale Home Price … $333,000

Home Purchase Price … $506,000

Home Purchase Date …. 12/29/06

Net Gain (Loss) ………. $(192,980)

Percent Change ………. -38.1%

Annual Appreciation … -10.3%

Cost of Ownership

————————————————-

$333,000 ………. Asking Price

$11,655 ………. 3.5% Down FHA Financing

4.23% …………… Mortgage Interest Rate

$321,345 ………. 30-Year Mortgage

$63,036 ………. Income Requirement

$1,577 ………. Monthly Mortgage Payment

$289 ………. Property Tax

$150 ………. Special Taxes and Levies (Mello Roos)

$28 ………. Homeowners Insurance

$267 ………. Homeowners Association Fees

============================================

$2,310 ………. Monthly Cash Outlays

-$142 ………. Tax Savings (% of Interest and Property Tax)

-$444 ………. Equity Hidden in Payment

$18 ………. Lost Income to Down Payment (net of taxes)

$42 ………. Maintenance and Replacement Reserves

============================================

$1,783 ………. Monthly Cost of Ownership

Cash Acquisition Demands

——————————————————————————

$3,330 ………. Furnishing and Move In @1%

$3,330 ………. Closing Costs @1%

$3,213 ………… Interest Points @1% of Loan

$11,655 ………. Down Payment

============================================

$21,528 ………. Total Cash Costs

$27,300 ………… Emergency Cash Reserves

============================================

$48,828 ………. Total Savings Needed

Property Details for 78 LAMPLIGHTER Irvine, CA 92620

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Beds: 1

Baths: 1 full 1 part baths

Home size: 1,135 sq ft

($293 / sq ft)

Lot Size: n/a

Year Built: 2005

Days on Market: 15

Listing Updated: 40459

MLS Number: P755572

Property Type: Condominium, Residential

Community: Woodbury

Tract: Laca

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According to the listing agent, this listing is a bank owned (foreclosed) property.

OPEN FLOOR PLANE 1 BEDROOM, 1.5 BATH WITH BONUS ROOM, LIVING ROOM, INSIDE LAUNDRY ROOM, RECESSED & UNDER CABINET LIGHTING, UPGRADED FLOORING AND COUNTERS, APPROX. 1135 SQ FT, ASSOC POOL, SPA, COURTYARD, BBQ AREA, TENNIS COURTS, PLAYGROUND, FIRE PT, FITNESS CENTER, HOA DUES $266.98 MO, CLOSE TO FREEWAYS, SHOPPING, PARKS & ENTERTAINMENT

The Rich Feel They Missed Out on the Recession

Nothing serious today. Sometimes Fridays are just for fun….

Irvine Home Address … 208 GUINEVERE Irvine, CA 92620

Resale Home Price …… $469,000

Oh, poor twisted me

Oh, poor twisted me

I feast on sympathy

I chew on suffer

I chew on agony

Swallow whole the pain

Oh, it's too good to be

That all this misery

Is just for, oh, poor twisted me

Poor twisted me

Metallica — Poor Twisted Me

Rich Guy Feeling Left Out Of Recession

April 1, 2010

WILTON, CT—Michael Chandler looks out the windows of his sun room, past the swimming pool and guest cottage, to the wide backyard where his two children are playing with their pet dalmatian, Scotty. At a time when Americans everywhere are sharing the struggle of a once-in-a-generation recession, Chandler can't help but wonder how he and his family fell through the cracks.

"It's just not fair," said the 49-year-old real estate developer and grandson of oil baron Duncan Chandler. "Everyone is worrying about an uncertain future and coming together to express their outrage, and I don't get to be a part of it."

Staring out at the ornate garden where workers were installing a large marble fountain, Chandler sighed and added, "It's like I don't even exist."

According to the multimillionaire, the past 18 months have been incredibly difficult to endure, as he is often left feeling excluded from an American populace that includes millions who struggle every day to make ends meet. Chandler, who watched helplessly as his enormous fortune easily withstood the market freefall, has been "completely left out" of one of this nation's most significant cultural moments.

"Everybody's suffering," Chandler said. "And here I am, not scrimping and saving at all, with no demoralizing periods of financial hardship, or frantic weeks living paycheck to paycheck. What about me, you know? Where's my struggle?"

"Everyone's supposed to get a fair shake at this misery," Chandler added. "Even incredibly wealthy people of privilege like me."

Throughout the economic downturn, Chandler has tried to tap into the recession and experience some of the sorrow and widespread desperation he has so cruelly been denied. Sadly, all of his attempts have been thwarted by his seemingly insurmountable stack of riches.

According to longtime financial adviser Ben Schultz, Chandler "constantly" inquires as to whether any of his diversely invested mutual funds are losing money, but is always let down.

"Michael's portfolio is better than ever, to be honest," Schultz told reporters. "In fact, his only real connection to the recession is that he helped to cause it by artificially inflating home prices and making millions off unstable derivatives trading."

Chandler has been so devastated by his inability to feel the same anguish and hopelessness the rest of the country is enduring that he took the extraordinary step last week of speaking openly with a chauffeur about how hard the recession has been on everyone. He even went so far as to tip the driver 50 percent less than usual in an attempt to show the man that he, too, was hurting financially.

"I kept waiting for him to say, 'Well, times are tough on all of us,' or 'Who isn't feeling the pinch these days, eh?'" Chandler said. "But he just seemed really angry."

Despite his best efforts, Chandler told reporters he knows that someday the crisis uniting so many of his fellow Americans will pass, and that the far-reaching anger will give way to the worship of money that preceded it.

But until then, he admitted, it will hurt to be excluded.

"Every month they announce tens of thousands of layoffs," Chandler said, "and every time, I'm not one of them. No matter what I say or do, it'll never be me. My only memory of this historic point in time will be the prosperity I have always known."

Added Chandler, "Dear God, when's this recession going to end?"

The difference a HELOC makes

Do you remember the chart of the options the lender and the borrower have in a delinquency?

HELOCs can be either a purchase money or a non-purchase money loan. For it to be a purchase money loan, it must be originated and fully used to purchase the property. The HELOC retains its non-recourse status up until the day the borrower first uses it for any purpose other than the purchase of the property. For instance, if a borrower uses a $132,216 HELOC to purchase a property (as today's featured owner did), and he borrowed all $132,216 to buy the property (no way to know on my end), the loan is non recourse. However, as time goes by and the borrower pays down the loan, there is equity available for the borrower to extract. The moment they do, all non-recourse protections are lost.

This issue becomes very important to today's featured property owner. It determines whether or not he walks away with no further responsibility to the lender for the debt, or if he falls down to the last three options on the chart — none of which are very appealing. The property was purchased for $661,500 on 12/22/2005. The owner used a $528,864 first mortgage, a $132,216 HELOC, and a $420 down payment.

In either case, the sale of this property is going to ruin this guy's credit, but whether or not he used that HELOC determines if he only loses $420 or $132,216. That is quite a difference.

Irvine Home Address … 208 GUINEVERE Irvine, CA 92620

Resale Home Price … $469,000

Home Purchase Price … $661,500

Home Purchase Date …. 12/22/2005

Net Gain (Loss) ………. $(220,640)

Percent Change ………. -33.4%

Annual Appreciation … -6.8%

Cost of Ownership

————————————————-

$469,000 ………. Asking Price

$16,415 ………. 3.5% Down FHA Financing

4.25% …………… Mortgage Interest Rate

$452,585 ………. 30-Year Mortgage

$88,992 ………. Income Requirement

$2,226 ………. Monthly Mortgage Payment

$406 ………. Property Tax

$300 ………. Special Taxes and Levies (Mello Roos)

$39 ………. Homeowners Insurance

$300 ………. Homeowners Association Fees

============================================

$3,272 ………. Monthly Cash Outlays

-$352 ………. Tax Savings (% of Interest and Property Tax)

-$624 ………. Equity Hidden in Payment

$25 ………. Lost Income to Down Payment (net of taxes)

$59 ………. Maintenance and Replacement Reserves

============================================

$2,381 ………. Monthly Cost of Ownership

Cash Acquisition Demands

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$4,690 ………. Furnishing and Move In @1%

$4,690 ………. Closing Costs @1%

$4,526 ………… Interest Points @1% of Loan

$16,415 ………. Down Payment

============================================

$30,321 ………. Total Cash Costs

$36,400 ………… Emergency Cash Reserves

============================================

$66,721 ………. Total Savings Needed

Property Details for 208 GUINEVERE Irvine, CA 92620

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Beds: 3

Baths: 2 full 1 part baths

Home size: 1,950 sq ft

($241 / sq ft)

Lot Size: n/a

Year Built: 2006

Days on Market: 164

Listing Updated: 40449

MLS Number: S616084

Property Type: Condominium, Residential

Community: Woodbury

Tract: Wdgp

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According to the listing agent, this listing may be a pre-foreclosure or short sale.

This is a three bedroom townhome style open floorplan that is perfect for entertaining. Bring your must discerning buyer and notice all the fine detail in the finely open gourmet kitchen. could have a main floor bedroom or office. Woodbury is one of the nations finest communties with a walk to destination mall amenties to fit any five star accomodations and the finest schools. Come see this gem. Model perfect.

communties? amenties? accomodations?

I hope you have enjoyed this week, and thank you for reading the Irvine Housing Blog: astutely observing the Irvine home market and combating California Kool-Aid since 2006.

Have a great weekend,

Irvine Renter