Author Archives: IrvineRenter

1997

What was the housing market like in 1997 at the bottom of the last price crash? Will history repeat itself?

199 Pineview   Irvine, CA 92620  kitchen

Asking Price: $245,000

Address: 199 Pineview Irvine, CA 92620

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This fed time outta town pie flipper
Turn cristal into a crooked I sipper
Everbody want to be fast, see the cash

Can’t Nobody Hold Me Down — Puff Daddy

Is the FED working to feed flippers? Everybody wants to get that fast money…

I have written about the bottom of the market on a number of occasions including: The Market Bottom Is Not a Price Point, The Market Bottom and Fundamentals at a Market Bottom. Today I want to take a more detailed look at the market conditions present last time and extrapolate those conditions to today.

Irvine Home Price History

What were the market conditions in 1997 at the last market bottom?

  • The market peaked in the spring of 1990 at $245,000. In early 1997, the median was $223,750. It dropped for 7 consecutive years (The data series is a bit noisy, but the lowest low was recorded at $192,750 in May of 1994).
  • There where bear rallies almost every year similar to what we are seeing now.
  • The median household income was $62,022.
  • The median home price was $223,750.
  • Mortgage interest rates were at 7.6%. Rates had been steadily falling since 1982.

If a borrower puts 20% down on a $223,750 home, they are putting $44,750 down and borrowing $179,000. The payment on $179,000 at 7.6% interest is $1,263.87. This amount represents 24.4% of the median household’s $62,022 income.

Think about that: in 1997, a family making the median household income could buy a median home with a payment that was less than 25% of their income.

One of the erroneous contentions real estate bulls have made over and over again is that the median household income could never buy a median home. That is simply nonsense.

Twenty percent down was the norm in 1997, but what about the first-time buyers who were only putting 3% down with an FHA loan? They would have put down $6,712, borrowed $217,037, and they would have had a payment of $1,532. This payment would have been 29.6% of their income. By any standard, houses were affordable in 1997.

So what would these same market conditions which prevailed in 1997 look like today?

If a family making the median household income were to put 24.4% of a $91,101 income toward a payment, they could make a payment of $1,852.39. That payment would finance $335,452. A 20% downpayment of $83,864 combined with the $335,452 loan would yeild a median home price of $419,316.

If the people in 2009 were putting the same percentage of their income toward housing as those who bought in 1997, the median home price in Irvine would be $419,316.

House prices did not go up by magic. People were utilizing crazy loan products that allowed them to borrow unbelievable sums, and they stretched beyond the limit to borrow these massive sums. The collapse of these loan products has already resulted in a huge decline in borrowing. People are still stretching to an insane degree and putting very large downpayments to keep our median at $550,000. As those with large downpayments spend themselves, and as people stop stretching to buy depreciating assets, the median will continue to fall.

Keep in mind that the $420,000 median we should be seeing is only supported by artificially low interest rates. As I described in Real Estate’s Lost Decade, if interest rates go back up to their historically stable levels of near 8%, the amounts financed drop even further.

What would happen if incomes were to remain flat and interest rates were to rise to 8% by the summer of 2011? (This probably will not happen, but it could.) Using all the same parameters and an 8% interest rate yields a median home price of $315,561.

  • If you knew the median household income went up about 50% from 1997 to 2008 ($62,000 to $91,000), wouldn’t you suspect house prices would also have gone up 50% ($223,750 to $335,625)?
  • Is it logical to think house prices can go up more than incomes?
  • How are people capable of bidding up house prices higher than their incomes would allow?
  • If lending standards retreat to 1997 standards (which they have), shouldn’t the relationship between income and price also mirror 1997 characteristics?

When I was interviewed recently at the Irvine Homes Blog (Blogger: Irvine housing market nowhere near bottom), I said that I believed the Irvine median would bottom near $375,000, particularly if interest rates rose to 7%-8%. When you look at the math, and look at the history, the crazy number that I threw out looks reasonable and even conservative.

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A year in review: 1997.

2 Silveroak Irvine, CA 92620, Sold $302,500, Price: $1,039,900

3 Shadowglen Irvine, CA 92620, Sold $517,000, Price: $1,399,000

14 Crestwood Irvine, CA 92620, Sold $358,500, Price: $1,250,000

15182 Marne Cir Irvine, CA 92604, Sold $274,000, Price: $788,000

166 Oval Rd #4 Irvine, CA 92604, Sold $97,000, Price: $299,900

5 Highland Vw #8 Irvine, CA 92603, Sold $175,000, Price: $499,000

199 Pineview   Irvine, CA 92620  kitchen

Asking Price: $245,000

Income Requirement: $61,250

Downpayment Needed: $49,000

Purchase Price: $98,500

Purchase Date: 11/12/1997

Address: 199 Pineview Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 1
Baths: 1
Sq. Ft.: 932
$/Sq. Ft.: $263
Lot Size: 763

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Condominium
Style: Other
Stories: 2
Floor: 1
View: Lake, Pond
Year Built: 1977
Community: Northwood
County: Orange
MLS#: S579050
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 18 days

Affordable Resort-Style Living. Two-story townhome (no one above or
below) nestled in a tranquil environment overlooking lake, stream, and
mature trees. Premium private location, best in tract with unobstructed
views. Open floor plan with vaulted ceilings. Generous living room with
fireplace, open to cozy dining area. Large bedroom loft with full bath.
Beautiful lakeside patio. Spacious laundry/storage room with washer and
dryer hookups. Move-in condition, with brand new carpet and modern
ceramic tiles throughout. Association features pools, hot tubs, tennis
courts, and is within walking distance from shopping, parks, and
schools.

nestled and cozy… I feel all warm and tingly…

This property was purchased on 11/12/1997 for $98,500. The owner used a $95,150 first mortgage and a $3,350 downpayment. He never refinanced nor took out any HELOCs! If he gets this asking price — which doesn’t seem very likely — he will make $131,800 after a 6% commission.

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I profiled this second property recently in the post The Lenders Are The Market. It was also a 1997 purchase, so I am repeating it here today.

228 Orange Blossom

Asking Price: $130,000

Income Requirement: $32,500

Downpayment Needed: $26,000

Purchase Price: $62,500

Purchase Date: 10/29/1997

Address: 228 Orange Blossom #34, Irvine, CA 92618

Beds: 1
Baths: 1
Sq. Ft.: 471
$/Sq. Ft.: $276
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Other
Stories: 1
Floor: 1
View: Creek/Stream
Year Built: 1976
Community: Orangetree
County: Orange
MLS#: F1786080
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 275 days

Charming end unit. Lower level one bedroom with full bathroom and
kitchen. Inside laundry. Living room and patio area overlooking water
stream and soothing sounds of a waterfall. 1 car port. Association has
pool, spa, tennis courts and clubhouse. Excellent location next door to
Irvine Valley College. Near 5 and 405 Freeways, Irvine Spectrum
Entertainment Center, Business District, Shopping. Located in Building
# 12.

This property was a classic “put” to the bank. The owner paid $62,500
on 10/29/1997 using a $35,000 first mortgage and a $27,500 downpayment.
She only borrowed against the property once during the bubble taking
out a $20,000 loan in late 2003—that is until 7/23/2007 when she took
out a $212,000 first mortgage. Her timing was great because two weeks
later the credit crunch hit, and financing these properties became
significantly more difficult.

So which owner do you think was wiser? The one who did not HELOC the property stands to make a smaller profit, but he will retain good credit. Or do you think it is the owner who HELOCed every penny out of the property and walked away was wiser?

Open Thread 7-11-2009

If you want to see single-family detached homes trading below rental parity, you do not have to go far. This one in Tustin is just north of the District.

14802 Devonshire Ave   Tustin, CA 92780  pool

Asking Price: $449,900

Address: 14802 Devonshire Ave Tustin, CA 92780



But I’m a substitute for another guy
I look pretty tall but my heels are high
The simple things you see are all complicated
I look pretty young, but I’m just back-dated, yeah

Substitute — The Who

All methods of real estate valuation are based on the principal of substitution. A rational buyer — not that we have many of those — will not pay more for a property than a comparable property; instead, the buyer will “substitute” a comparable property for the one they truly desired.

For instance, this property (4592 Abbotswood Cir Irvine,
CA 92604
) being offered for $585,000, and this property (14862 RATTAN St Irvine,
CA 92604
) being offered for $580,000 are comparable in many ways to today’s featured property. Buyers looking to purchase in Irvine would probably prefer one of these two properties to today’s featured property because they are in Irvine; however, someone looking for properties of this type may substitute today’s featured property and save 25%.

Are the two Irvine properties really worth 25% more? Rental comps suggest there is a premium for the Irvine properties, but it closer to 5% than 25%.

This substitution effect is very real; in fact, it was a reader of this blog that contacted me to analyze today’s featured property. I was quite surprised to find it was trading 10% below rental parity.

The substitution effect is what causes people to commute from Corona or Rancho Santa Margarita or simply cross the city boundary into Tustin. It is the substitution effect that is going to drag down prices in Irvine.

There will always be a premium to live in Irvine. This premium is reflected in the high local rents (which someone will remind me are falling). This rental premium translates into a home price premium. The problem now is that this home price premium is still way too high relative to rents. That will change.

14802 Devonshire Ave   Tustin, CA 92780  pool

Asking Price: $449,900

Income Requirement: $112,475

Downpayment Needed: $89,980

Purchase Price: about $50,000

Purchase Date: A long time ago

Address: 14802 Devonshire Ave Tustin, CA 92780

Beds: 4
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 1,684
$/Sq. Ft.: $267
Lot Size: 6,000

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Other
Stories: 1
Year Built: 1968
Community: Tustin
County: Orange
MLS#: P693447
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 9 days

Tustin Meadows: Diamond In The Rough! This is the 4 bedroom, 2 bath,
2-car garage with built-in pool that needs your touch for remodeling
and best of all it is Priced To Sell. It has 1,684 square feet to make
your own. Brief walk to Centennial Park and the new Clubhouse being
built.

For a detailed analysis of this property including sales comps and rental comps to establish rental parity, please click on this PDF file

(IHB_Brokers Opinion_of_Value_14802_Devonshire_Ave_Tustin,_CA_92780.pdf)

Pass the Knife

Some of the knife catchers from 2007 and 2008 are changing their minds about their great investments. This former REO buyer from last year is looking to get out at even.

14911 Sumac Ave   Irvine, CA 92606  kitchen

Asking Price: $650,000

Address: 14911 Sumac Ave, Irvine, CA 92606

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Yesterday,
All my troubles seemed so far away,
Now it looks as though they’re here to stay,
Oh, I believe in yesterday.

Suddenly,
I’m not half the man I used to be,
There’s a shadow hanging over me,
Oh, yesterday came suddenly.


Yesterday
— The Beatles

Knives can be very dangerous, but they also can be a useful tool in the hands of the right person. It can be used to trim away the excess and leave a lean and useful core; however, it can also cause serious harm.

The foreclosure and bankruptcy process works like a knife cutting away at excessive debt. We still have a large amount of unsustainable debt held by many homeowners in the mid- to high-end of the housing market. There are only two realistic scenarios where these debts are cut down to size: (1) property sale, and (2) loan modification.

Current incomes do not support current debt loads under stable loan terms. Many people are trying to blame the foreclosure crisis on the bad economy and unemployment, but we would have had a huge foreclosure crisis even if the economy had remained sound. The implosion of subprime had nothing to do with the bad economy, nor was it the borrower class that created the default problems; it was the loan terms. The ARM reset and recast problem we are now facing is just like subprime. Remember, It’s not the Borrowers; It’s the Loans.

Many people would like to sell to cut loose of the mortgage payments they cannot maintain. As long as the market has owners in this situation, there will be pressure to sell and excessive home inventory. We are not seeing this inventory yet for reasons discussed on many occasions (most recently in The Lenders Are the Market), but this inventory is on its way. (see also this article in the LA Times: Another wave of foreclosures is poised to strike)

Loan modifications have failed to make a significant dent in the problem, nor is it likely that it will in the future. These programs help a few on the fringe, but they don’t do much for the hopelessly underwater and those who simply cannot afford their debt service under any loan conditions. There will be No Forgiveness of principal.

Even if loan modification programs were to work, it may be good for the lenders, but it will do little for borrowers or the economy. The payments under loan modification programs are still onerous, so people will not have much money left over to enjoy their lives. It isn’t likely that lenders will be giving out HELOCs to those people with loan modifications any time soon.


Much of the homebuying population seems to think that the free money from HELOCs will be available in a year two. Once prices go back up, won’t lenders be giving out this free money again? It doesn’t seem very likely that lenders or investors would put their money into loans that defaulted and cost them a trillion dollars. Would you?

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I first featured this property back in July of 2007 in the post Sumac Attac. It has been two years since this house began its quest for a stable homeowner. So far it has managed to find a knife catcher. Will the next owner be stable?

14911 Sumac Ave   Irvine, CA 92606  kitchen

Asking Price: $650,000

Income Requirement: $162,500

Downpayment Needed: $130,000

Purchase Price: $795,000

Purchase Date: 10/28/2005

Address: 14911 Sumac Ave, Irvine, CA 92606

Beds: 5
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 2,350
$/Sq. Ft.: $277
Lot Size: 5,000

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Mediterranean
Stories: 2
Year Built: 1972
Community: Walnut
County: Orange
MLS#: S579691
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 7 days

FAVORITE FLOORPLAN IN COLLEGE PARK WITH 5 BEDROOMS AND 2.5 BATHS ,
BONUS ROOM CONVERT TO BEDROOM WITH 2 CLOSET. REFINISHED CABINETS
,GRANITE COUNTERTOP, STAINLESS STEEL APPLIANCE ,CELLING FAN ,SECTIONAL
GARAGE DOOR , RECESSED LIGHTING , NEW PAINT IN & OUT , NEW FLORRING
, GAS STOVE ,ROSE GARDEN AND FRUIT TREES,CLOSE TO PARK , SCHOOL , FWY ,
SHOPPING .

ALL CAPS

FLORRING?

FAVORITE? Whos favorite?

This property was originally purchased on 10/28/2005 for $795,000. The owner used $636,000 first mortgage, a $159,000 second mortgage, and a $0 downpayment. He defaulted in late 2006, and the property was purchased by U S BANK NA, ; HOME EQUITY ASSET TRUST 2006-1HOME EQUIT, ; SELECT PORTFOLIO SERVICING on 05/22/2007.

Foreclosure Record
Recording Date: 04/27/2007
Document Type: Notice of Sale (aka Notice of Trustee’s Sale)
Document #: 2007000272756

Foreclosure Record
Recording Date: 01/25/2007
Document Type: Notice of Default
Document #: 2007000052690

The lender did not waste any time in the foreclosure process, but they held the property for 9 months before they sold it.

The property was purchased by the current owner knife catcher on 2/28/2008 for $600,000. He used a $417,000 first mortgage, a $128,000 second mortgage, and a $55,000 downpayment. If he gets his current asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, he stands to make $11,000. Basically, he has enough room to negotiate without losing any money. Do you think he will get out without a cut?

I'm a Believer

Can the zealots of Irvine support house prices throughout this crash? Can the belief in price crash immunity be a self-fulfilling prophecy?

43 Leucadia  Irvine, CA 92602 kitchen

Asking Price: $499,000

Address: 43 Leucadia #76 Irvine, CA 92602

Whats the use in tryin?
All you get is pain.
When I needed sunshine I got rain.

I’m a Believer — The Monkees

Kool Aid Man

Kool aid intoxication is a religious dogma, and many people are Losing Their Religion (great post from last year).

People who are buying in today’s market in Irvine are paying more to own a house than it costs to rent it. This has been the case since the turn of the millennium, and few people outside the readership of this blog think that will ever change. Why do they believe that? And why do we believe prices will get so low that renting is more more expensive than owning? It it all a matter of faith?

Historically, when prices crash, they fall until it is cheaper to own than to rent because there is no speculative investment value in an asset with a declining price; therefore, there is no real reason to buy until ownership saves you money over renting — unless you believe the market has bottomed. This fact keeps would-be buyers on the sidelines until prices are reasonable. This phenomenon has happened in the two previous busts, but without the fanfare of a blog like this one.

There are two features of this bust that are different than the last one that may have an impact on prices: (1) the strength of the kool aid, and (2) the internet providing greater access to information.

Since there were so many people that were so rewarded by owning houses during the bubble, there are still large numbers of people in the market that will pay nearly any price to own. These are the knife catchers buying homes on faith — faith that appreciation will return. If there are enough of these people, it may become a self-fulfilling prophesy. If the past is any indicator of the future, the kool aid intoxicated will be the knife catchers providing liquidity on the way to the bottom.

The other big change this time around is the presence of blogs like this one to serve as a voice of reason in a kool aid intoxicated world. By presenting history, reason, fact-based arguments and a conceptual framework for understanding how and why prices rise and fall, the readers here have guidelines that will help them establish what reasonable valuations are when when house prices are approaching that range of bottoming values. In the past, this information was not widely available.

Will either of these differences impact the market? I doubt it; the housing market is much too large. If house prices do not reach rental parity across Irvine, many will claim it is because Irvine is so desirable that houses here represent a “reservoir of value.” The reality is that this reservoir is akin to a Holy Grail; it is an ordinary cup given special significance due to the faithful.

Our house prices are being supported by the zeal of Irvine buyers. Are there enough of them to sustain the market indefinitely? I doubt it.

43 Leucadia  Irvine, CA 92602 kitchen

Asking Price: $499,000

Income Requirement: $124,750

Downpayment Needed: $99,800

Purchase Price: $520,000

Purchase Date: 12/1/2003

Address: 43 Leucadia #76 Irvine, CA 92602

Beds: 3
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,826
$/Sq. Ft.: $273
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Other
Stories: 2
Floor: 2
View: Park or Green Belt
Year Built: 2002
Community: Northpark
County: Orange
MLS#: P692169
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 15 days

*********************NORTHPARK COMMUNITY******************** Beautiful
and spacious 3 Bedrooms, 3 Full Bath, 2 Attached Garage W/ Extra
Storage Space. Main Floor Bedroom W/ One Full Bath. Master Bedroom Has
Walk-In Closet W/ Huge Bathroom.Many Upgardes, Built -In Entertainment
Center. Just Steps To Elementry School & Beckman Highschool and
very close to freeway.

Did the realtor use enough asterisks?

  • This property was purchased on 12/1/2003 for $520,000. The owner used a $389,925 first mortgage, a $77,985 second mortgage, and a $52,090 downpayment.
  • On 11/2/2004 he opened a HELOC for $145,000.
  • On 4/15/2005 he refinanced with a $487,500 Option ARM with a 1.25% teaser rate.
  • On 6/24/2005 he opened a HELOC for $102,900.
  • Total property debt is $590,400 if he maxed the HELOC.
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal is $122,490.
  • In late 2008, he stopped paying on his mortgage.

Foreclosure Record
Recording Date: 03/16/2009
Document Type: Notice of Default
Document #: 2009000121341

If this owner did max out the HELOC, if this sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss to the lender will be $121,340.

This is another 2003 Rollback.

Time to Pay the Piper

The housing ATM is closed, and pretenders must pay their bills. They must sell their houses to do it.

8 Saintsbury   Irvine, CA 92602  kitchen

Asking Price: $1,089,000

Address: 8 Saintsbury Irvine, CA 92602

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The ice age is coming, the sun’s zooming in
Meltdown expected, the wheat is growing thin
Engines stop running, but I have no fear

London Calling — The Clash

The people with prime properties in Irvine certainly do not show any signs of fear; denial rules the day. These properties, many of which were purchased in 2002-2004, will ultimately end up underwater, but for now, they are asking double what they paid. Today’s featured properties are both large, single-story homes backing on to major arterials — asking over $1,000,000. WTF?

WTF

I have written many screeds on HELOC abuse and the lifestyle of pretending with borrowed money. This lifestyle has become so common and so widely accepted that few people even see it for the pretending it is. If everyone is pretending, doesn’t it take on a reality all its own?

First, I should define what I mean by pretending. Financial pretending is the process of borrowing from potential future earnings to spend today as if you make or have more money than you really do.

To see what I mean, imagine a scene at a local high-end restaurant. Two groups of people come in to eat dinner. One party is being treated by a very wealthy individual, and the other party is being treated by a pretender. At the end of the meal, the wealthy person pays the bill out of accumulated savings or current income; he incurs no liability for his consumption. The pretender pulls out a credit card and pays for the meal with a promise to make enough money to pay the credit card company later. The pretender cannot truly afford the fancy meal, and he is only able to obtain it because the credit card company accepts his veracity on the matter of future payment. What happens if the pretender’s promises are no longer believed?

The wealthy need to convince nobody of their ability to pay; they have cash. The pretenders need others to believe in their willingness and ability to make future payments in order to obtain the objects of their desire. It should be obvious who really has power and who is only pretending.

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When pretenders go on long term borrowing sprees and continue making their debt service payments, they eventually come to believe that someone, somewhere will always believe in their promise to pay in the future; borrowers believe creditors will always extend them new credit. California Personal Finance: Ponzi Style is born.

From the outside, pretenders look rich and powerful, but in reality, they are weak and dependent — their lifestyle cannot exist without some other party to give them money and power. In times of credit contraction like we are experiencing today, pretenders are exposed for what they are. As Warren Buffet noted, “You only find out who is swimming naked when the tide goes out.”

8 Saintsbury   Irvine, CA 92602  kitchen

Asking Price: $1,089,000

Income Requirement: $272,250

Downpayment Needed: $217,800

Purchase Price: $531,500

Purchase Date: 10/24/2002

Address: 8 Saintsbury Irvine, CA 92602

Beds: 3
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 2,200
$/Sq. Ft.: $495
Lot Size: 4,826

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Contemporary
Stories: 1
Year Built: 2003
Community: Northpark
County: Orange
MLS#: S570974
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 80 days

Gourmet Kitchen Award

Gorgeous Rutherford one-story home! Beautiful maplewood floors and
berber carpet throughout. Spacious family room with granite-face
surround fireplace and built-in entertainment niche. Gourmet oversized
kitchen with a large granite countertop island, upgraded cabinetry and
top-line stainless steel appliance. Romantic master suite with Corian
countertop & walk-in closet with organizer. Custom paint, epoxy
coating on garage floor, custom draperies and french door.
Professionally designed front landscape with iron gates, private
backyard with ponds, custom fountains and tropical plants. Convenient
inside laundry with lots of cabinets. Association features pool, spa
and Gym.

A classic pergraniteel home.

  • This property was purchased on 10/24/2002 for $531,500. The owner used a $424,950 first mortgage and a $106,550 downpayment.
  • On 1/24/2004 he refinanced with a $530,000 first mortgage and took out his downpayment.
  • On 9/27/2004 he opened a HELOC for $169,000.
  • On 9/12/2005 he refinanced with a $817,000 Option ARM with a 1% teaser rate.
  • On 10/31/2006 he refinanced with a $856,000 first mortgage.
  • On 3/9/2007 he opened a HELOC for $105,000.
  • Total debt is $961,000 assuming he maxed out the HELOC.
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal is $536,050 including his downpayment.

Anyone “keeping up with the Jones’s” during the bubble had some serious HELOC competition from guys like this one.

Think about what this guy has done. First, he has created a lifestyle where he gets about $80,000 a year in untaxed income to finance his lifestyle. The housing ATM is turned off, so he has doubled his debt load without doubling his wage income (unless you think his wages matched the increase in his mortgage). Now he has to learn to live without that extra $80,000 a year in spending money, AND he has to pay back the loan with a much larger percentage of his income.

Are you surprised that he might want to sell and eliminate that debt? You shouldn’t be. He and everyone like him selling to eliminate their debts is what is going to crash high end prices.

46 Whitford   Irvine, CA 92602  front 46 Whitford   Irvine, CA 92602  kitchen

Asking Price: $1,199,000

Income Requirement: $299,750

Downpayment Needed: $239,800

Purchase Price: $612,000

Purchase Date: 10/30/2003

Address: 46 Whitford Irvine, CA 92602

Beds: 3
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 2,850
$/Sq. Ft.: $421
Lot Size: 5,662

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Contemporary/Modern
Stories: 1
Year Built: 2002
Community: Northpark
County: Orange
MLS#: U9000821
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 137 days

Exquisite single-story Triana home in the gated community of Northpark.
Stunning designer upgrades include travertine flooring, venetian
plaster, beryl wood entertainment center and built-ins. Kitchen
features bull-nosed granite counters and backsplash, thermador cook
top, kitchen-aid built-in refrigerator. All bathrooms designer
appointed to include tumbled marble, travertine and slate.
Professionally designed and landscaped to include a custom fountain and
firepit. Owner spared no expense on this designer model home.

I gotta have those bull-nosed granite counters.

  • This property was purchased on 10/30/2003 for $612,000. The owner used a $489,350 first mortgage and a $122,650 downpayment.
  • On 9/14/2004 he opened a HELOC for $200,000.
  • On 5/8/2006 he refinanced with a $791,000 first mortgage.
  • On 6/26/2006 he opened a HELOC for $100,000.
  • On 1/31/2007 he opened a HELOC for $225,000.
  • Total property debt is $1,016,000 assuming he maxed out the HELOC (sure looks that way).
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal is $526,650.

Both of these owners took out over $500,000 in mortgage equity withdrawal and spent the money.

Purging the kool aid from California is going to be painful. Financial pretending through mortgage equity withdrawal has become deeply embeded in our culture, and it contributes to the desirability of homes and the extreme kool aid intoxication of people who live here. The fact is that lenders are not going to enable another real estate bubble here in California any time soon; they lost too much money. The housing ATM is permanently broken, and people are going to have to get used to living without it.