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Going Flat

If you are renting rather than owning, you are “flat” real estate. Going flat can be a trading position to profit from, if the drop is deep enough.

Asking Price: $600,000

Address: 15 Iowa Irvine, CA 92606

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In ten minutes I’ll be laying out flat on the floor

Like I need to defend my own innocence
So what, I did it, I admit it, and I’m pleading the 5th
One more anthem for the know it all
I won’t be standing up for long I better learn how to crawl
Learn how to crawl

In ten minutes I’ll be laying out flat on the floor

Flat On The Floor — Nickelback

When traders takes a position in a market, they can be either “long” or “short.” If traders have no position, they are said to be “flat.” Traders who are long the market have an ownership stake, and they want to asset to go up in price. Traders who are short the market borrowed the asset, sold it, and they must repurchase the asset later to repay the debt. The short position is profitable if prices go down.

In residential real estate, it is not realistically possible to be short (you could play the futures though). Someone is not going to loan you their house and allow you to sell it to time the peak. What homeowners can do is to functions much the same: they can sell their home, go flat, and buy a different (presumably better) home later and profit from the difference. The “flat trade” is much more difficult than it sounds.

Real estate as an asset class has two significant drawbacks: (1) illiquidity and (2) high transaction costs. The problems make the flat trade challenging. When you sell a house, you will most likely pay a 6% commission. When you buy a house, you will incur closing costs and fees amount to about 4% of the transaction. When you consider the transaction costs, you must time the market to capture a 10% move, or you will actually lose money. Last year in Irvine, the Median Irvine home price is down 7.2 percent.

Nobody other than renters wants to see the flat trade be a success. Lenders know falling prices make for greater losses, the Federal Reserve knows low interest rates support higher prices, and the Government knows if they do not help the lenders and the Federal Reserve, then taxpayers are going to get the bill for the clean up; therefore, all the powers-that-be are scheming to keep prices high.

On a local level, we have tight supply and low transaction volumes sustaining prices about 30% above rental parity. Limiting supply — to the degree such a thing is possible — can theoretically keep prices at elevated levels indefinitely assuming the market remains at relatively low transaction volumes. This is certainly what property owners in Irvine want. Who can blame them?

If the REO inventory entering the system is large, and if it is sold relatively quickly, the increase in volume will cause prices to fall — probably the remaining 30% down to rental parity. If the market conditions that prevailed in 1997 recur, or if interest rates return to their historic norms, prices will fall more than 30%, and the flat trade would be very successful here.

Another variable that must be considered when contemplating the flat trade is your monthly cost versus renting. There are many people who may be able to profit from the short trade, but their current payments are less than rents because they locked in a payment many years ago. The people that have substantial equity may not want to try the short trade because it will cost them extra each month to rent. In fact, I would not recommend trying the short trade if you monthly cost of ownership is significantly below what the property would rent for.

The flat trade is getting much more difficult in many markets because the bulk of the declines have already occurred. Many nearby communities have declined below rental parity, and there are real bargains in some of these markets. There is still interest rate risk and overwhelming supply in these markets, but the subprime dominated markets are much closer to the bottom than to the top. The window of opportunity for the flat trade has closed in these markets.

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Another problem with the flat trade is timing it properly, and Timing Does Matter. It is difficult to sell into the frenzy because it is hard to predict when an irrational crowd will change. There were signs of a market top in 2004, just before the Option ARM took off and market prices went skyward. When timing the market, most people look for clear signs in the rear-view mirror.

For The Great Housing Bubble, the clear signal was the credit crunch and the onset of falling prices in August of 2007; unfortunately, the best signal is also a sign of a collapse in liquidity which makes a property much more difficult to sell. Waiting for the signal is clear may cost 5% or 10% of the sales price as a discount. Few have the savvy to identify and act on these signals; although, some of our esteemed members in the forums have done it — the flat trade is possible.

In any market decline, the most desirable properties will decline last. The mid to high end of the market has declined the least so far, but this merely means they have the furthest to fall. The flat trade is still possible here, and in the beach communities around Southern California, but this opportunity will pass quickly. Once prices get within 10% of the bottom, there isn’t enough drop left to profit from the flat trade.

Asking Price: $600,000

Income Requirement: $150,000

Downpayment Needed: $120,000

Purchase Price: $860,000

Purchase Date: 6/29/2006

Address: 15 Iowa Irvine, CA 92606

Beds: 4
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 2,200
$/Sq. Ft.: $273
Lot Size: 4,840

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Mediterranean
Stories: 2
Year Built: 1999
Community: Walnut
County: Orange
MLS#: P697358
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 1 day

HIGHLY UPGRADED HARVARD SQUARE HOME. LOCATED IN A BEAUTIFUL GATED
COMMUNITY ON A QUITE CUL DE SAC.THIS HOME FEATURES PLANTATION SHUTTERS,
TILED FLOORS, MAPLE CABINETS, CUSTOMBUILT-INS, EXTRA LARGE
PROFESSIONALLY LANDSCAPED TROPICAL YARD WITH BUILT IN BARBEQUE. GREAT
PLACE TO ENTERTAIN AND RELAX. THIS HOME SHOWS VERY WELL. COLLEGE PARK
ELEMENTARY AWARD WINNING SCHOOL.

HIGHLY UPGRADED?

ALL CAPS

This property was purchased on 6/29/2006 for $860,000. The owners put some money down, but not enough to warrant hanging around.

Date Event Price Appreciation
Jul 30, 2009 Listed $600,000
Jun 29, 2006 Sold $860,000 13.3%/yr
May 01, 2003 Sold $579,000 15.0%/yr
Aug 31, 1999 Sold $347,000

This property is on a fast-track from default through foreclosure and eventual sale.

Foreclosure Record
Recording Date: 05/13/2009
Document Type: Notice of Sale (aka Notice of Trustee’s Sale)
Document #: 2009000240902

Foreclosure Record
Recording Date: 02/11/2009
Document Type: Notice of Default
Document #: 2009000063919

If this property sells for its current asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss will be $296,000.

This property is nearly a 2003 rollback, and it is asking 30% off its peak purchase price.

Open Thread 8-1-2009

Today, I want to tell you about a new blog I came across recently that may be of interest to those who really want to understand real estate markets: Deal Breaker.

I wrote Land Value 101 long ago to describe how raw land parcels are valued. I found Deal Breaker which is a blog devoted to documenting the details of raw land transactions around Southern California. If you want to see what is happening in this market, it will provide you insight into what the builders and developers are doing and where they see the housing market going. We are just entering a phase of cleaning up the mess; properties are going for a small fraction of their peak valuations.

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Here are a couple of properties that were taken off the market before I could profile them this week.

95 Costa Brava   Irvine, CA 92620  kitchen

Asking Price: $439,000

Address: 95 Costa Brava Irvine, CA 92620

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Here comes the sun, here comes the sun,
and I say it’s all right

Little darling, it’s been a long cold lonely winter
Little darling, it feels like years since it’s been here
Here comes the sun, here comes the sun
and I say it’s all right

Here Comes the Sun — The Beatles

95 Costa Brava   Irvine, CA 92620  kitchen

Asking Price: $439,000

Income Requirement: $109,750

Downpayment Needed: $87,800

Purchase Price: $596,500

Purchase Date: 7/19/2006

Address: 95 Costa Brava Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 2
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,205
$/Sq. Ft.: $364
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Contemporary
Stories: 2
Floor: 1
Year Built: 2006
Community: Woodbury
County: Orange
MLS#: S582516
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 4 days

Fantastic opportunity,Bowen court plan 3 detached condo with 2
bedrooms,2 1/2 baths,2 car side by side garage, nice sized patio,all
downstairs ceramic tile flooring and all upstairs hardwood
floorings,plantation shutters,just walking distances to Woodbury
shopping center and The commons and Woodbury elementary school.

146 Briarwood 45   Irvine, CA 92604  front 146 Briarwood 45   Irvine, CA 92604  kitchen

Asking Price: $500,000

Income Requirement: $125,000

Downpayment Needed: $100,000

Purchase Price: $575,000

Purchase Date: 5/8/2007

Address: 146 Briarwood #45 Irvine, CA 92604

Beds: 3
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,400
$/Sq. Ft.: $357
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Townhouse
Stories: 2
Floor: 1
Year Built: 1978
Community: Woodbridge
County: Orange
MLS#: P695630
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 7 days

Travertine entry begins your journey into a beautiful Bradford townhome
with pride of ownership. Remodeled kitchen w/granite countertops,newer
white appliances with travertine flooring. Scraped ceilings accent the
recessed lighting. Remodeled guest bath.Masterbath has travertine
countertop, master closet is walkin closet.Guest bath off kitchen with
granite countertops. Central air and newer furnace with newer ducting.
Steps to East Shore school. Driveway leads to 2 car garage with direct
access. Backyard has cement patio. Traverinte fireplace.Owning a home
in woodbridge gives you access to all pools,spas, tennis courts,
volleyball courts and parks as well as the Beaches and Lagoons in North
and South lake.

Not a bad description, although it overdoes the travertine (including one misspelling).

Back in February I profiled the holdings of the Emporer of Woodbridge in Everybody Wants to Own the World.
The owner of that empire traded today’s featured property. Back
on 7/25/2000, the Emporer bought this property for $243,000. He sold it
on 3/8/2007 for $575,000. While he owned it, he took out an Option ARM
for $357,000, probably to finance his ongoing operations.

The couple he sold the property to on 3/8/2007 have not done quite
so well. If they get their asking price, it will not be a short sale,
but their equity will be gone.

Never Never Land

Tight inventory and increased sales still has not stablized low-end pricing. Today’s featured property is a 2003 rollback.

2243 Martin 111   Irvine, CA 92612  inside

Asking Price: $275,000

Address: 2243 Martin #111 Irvine, CA 92612

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Somethings wrong, shut the light
Heavy thoughts tonight
And they arent of snow white

Dreams of war, dreams of liars
Dreams of dragons fire
And of things that will bite

Sleep with one eye open
Gripping your pillow tight

Exit light
Enter night
Take my hand
Off to never never land

Enter Sandman — Metallica

When one-bedroom condos start going for over $400,000, doesn’t that just feel wrong? Isn’t there an intuition that says, “this property is just not worth that much?”

One thing I like about Dr. Housing Bubble’s Real Homes of Genius is that you just knew something was wrong. When you look at a decrepit old shack selling for $500,000, something isn’t right.

Even at $275,000, this price for this property makes no sense. Twelve years ago, that was the median home price, and $274,000 would have bought you a nice house (15182 Marne Cir Irvine, CA 92604). Instead we enter the Never Never Land of the Great Housing Bubble, and condos like today’s featured property suddenly sell for more.

So where do we go from here? Many people are getting caught up in our current bear rally and are becoming convinced we are at the bottom. It isn’t very likely that we are at the bottom.

We are entering a strange place in our housing market where many properties trade at or below rental parity — outside of Irvine — and yet prices will likely fall further. Despite the continuing slow decline, there are opportunities to save money buying versus renting. For those who know they are going to stay in a property for ten years or more, they can ride out the remaining decline and still fare well financially because they are saving money each month over renting.

The lack of appreciation in the market distorts the buy versus rent decision just as rapid appreciation does. It creates this unique circumstance where long-term homeowners can still benefit financially even in the face of declining prices. In areas outside of Irvine, we have reached the point where selling and “going short” is probably not going to yield significant savings, particularly for those who will pay more in rent after the sale. In Irvine, our prices are still inflated enough that cashing in that bubble equity lottery ticket may still have value.

2243 Martin 111   Irvine, CA 92612  inside

Asking Price: $275,000

Income Requirement: $68,750

Downpayment Needed: $55,000

Purchase Price: $280,000

Purchase Date: 6/30/2003

Address: 2243 Martin #111 Irvine, CA 92612

Beds: 1
Baths: 1
Sq. Ft.: 934
$/Sq. Ft.: $294
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Contemporary/Modern
Stories: 1
Floor: 1
View: Greenbelt
Year Built: 1992
Community: Airport Area
County: Orange
MLS#: S583303
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 4 days

Turkey Resort Luxury Living In A Gorgeous Tropical Setting At The
Metropolitan. This Open And Spacious Condo Is Perfectly Located On The
First Floor With Easy Access To The Pool, Clubhouse, Fitness Center,
And Parking. The Metropolitan Has A Guard Gated Entry For Security And
Privacy. A Spacious One (1) Bedroom Condo With A Large Balcony
Surrounded By A Greenbelt And Lush Trees. You’ll Feel Like You’re On
Vacation At A Tropical Resort. Volume Ceilings, Crown Molding, Inside
Stacked Washer/Dryer, New Carpet, And Designer Paint Make This A
Turn-Key Home. Highlights Include A Living Room, Den/Office/Dining
Room, Master Suite With Dual Sinks, Large Tub, Separate Shower, And A
Walk-In Closet. The Metropolitan Features A Resort Quality Pool, Spa,
Fitness Center, Clubhouse, And On-Site Property Management. Great
Location In The Center Of Irvine’s Financial District, With Easy Access
To John Wayne Airport, Freeways, South Coast Plaza, Fashion Island, And
The Beach.

Why Is Every Word Capitalized?

This is another 2003 rollback as the low end continues to drop.

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I would like to take this opportunity to thank Daniel Young, President of Community Development for the Irvine Company for taking the time to speak with us on Monday evening. We have a Conference Call Thread on the main blog, the complete Call Transcript in the forums, and there have been other associated threads there. I believe that the consensus is that the call was useful and contained real substantive answers.

I hope the Irvine Company will continue to communicate with us through the blog, the forums and periodic calls like the one on Monday. A medium like ours is more effective than a press release, and it is a way to speak directly to customers (us). We all benefit from having these lines of communication open.

And so concludes another week at the Irvine Housing Blog, chronicling the Irvine home market since September of 2006.

Have a great weekend.

😉

Gypsy Queen

Some people will feel trapped in their homes while some people will feel priced out living the life of a Gypsy.

36 Vintage   Irvine, CA 92620  kitchen

Asking Price: $299,900

Address: 36 Vintage Irvine, CA 92620

Running seems like the best offense
Staying just don’t make any sense
No one could ever stop it now
Show the cards of the gypsy town

Sign of the gypsy queen
Pack your things and leave
Word of a woman who knows
Take all your gold and you go

Sign of the Gypsy Queen — April Wine

Running seems like the best offense; take all your gold and go… Isn’t that the story of California real estate?

Are we going to become a split society? Is one group of people going to be encased in their debt bunkers while another group rents like Gypsies floating from one opportunity to another without roots beneath their feet? A home is supposed to be a solid foundation, a place to store wealth, and a place to live your life. Will it ever be again?

For many it has become a casket buried beneath a pile of debt entombing them, draining their monthly cash, and leaving them feeling trapped and despondent. Who wants to live that way?

For others it has become a symbol of stability and security they may never obtain. They worry they might be priced out forever, so they lose patience and overpay. Those that have the patience wait silently for the time when they too can have a place to call their own. The Gypsy life will someday end.

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I had an interesting experience yesterday related to patience. I have been waiting to buy a home for quite a while, but there is something I have been waiting for even longer: a hole-in-one playing golf. I started playing golf 33 years ago at age 9. I played much golf in junior high and high school, and I got my handicap down to 4 at one time. In all those years, I never had a hole-in-one. Yesterday, my 190 yard tee shot on the 3rd hole at Strawberry Farms was all I needed. My long wait is over.

36 Vintage   Irvine, CA 92620  kitchen

Asking Price: $299,900

Income Requirement: $74,975

Downpayment Needed: $59,980

Purchase Price: $430,000

Purchase Date: 2/14/2006

Address: 36 Vintage Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 1
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 1,050
$/Sq. Ft.: $286
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Villa
Stories: 1
Floor: 1
Year Built: 2006
Community: Woodbury
County: Orange
MLS#: S583025
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 1 day

Bank Owned Beauty! Enjoy the relaxing lifestyle that will come along
with this beautiful single level home. Property features rich wood
flooring, stunning crown moldings, upgraded kitchen that boasts a
spacious breakfast bar. Inside Laundry Room and attached garage. Large
spacious rooms. This home is perfect for the tech savvy and is wired
and ready to go! Enjoy entertaining your guests in the relaxing court
yard, take a dip in one of the many association pools, roast marsh
mellows in the fire pit and end the evening soaking in the association
spa at sunset. Close to shopping and award winning schools!! Home Sweet
Home! Near shopping and Irvine Spectrum. Wheelchair accessible from the
garage.

If the bank owns it, it is a beauty…

This property was purchased on 2/14/2006 for $430,000. The owner used a $343,700 first mortgage, an $85,900 second mortgage, and a $400 downpayment. I imagine she spent more to move in than she spent on the downpayment.

If this property sells for its current asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss to the lender will be $148,094.

This property is being offered for 30% off its peak purchase price.

Blue Bayou

Overpaying for real estate is a tradition in California. It is falling out of favor now, but it will probably make a comeback.

10 E Yale Loop 1   Irvine, CA 92604  kitchen

Asking Price: $819,000

Address: 10 E Yale Loop #1 Irvine, CA 92604

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Kool Aid Man

Saving nickles saving dimes
Working til the sun don’t shine
Looking forward to happier times
On Blue Bayou

Blue Bayou — Linda Ronstadt

It is a long-standing tradition in California for people to grossly overpay for housing and spend all their time and money trying to support their homes. In the past, this foolishness was actually rewarded by all the greater fools that did the same and bid prices up to the stratosphere. Of course, this is a Ponzi Scheme that eventually collapses like we are seeing now.

How much income should people put toward housing? (see Debt-To-Income Ratios: The Forgotten Variable) Lenders traditionally limited a mortgage debt payment to 28% and a total debt service to 36% of a borrower’s gross income — at least before they lost their minds in The Great Housing Bubble. The FHA and the GSEs will allow higher ratios, but not much higher.

The only way debt-to-income ratios higher than 33% make any sense at all is when people are profiting from appreciation. If the overpayment is an “investment” that people can convert to cash through HELOCs, then the housing Ponzi Scheme can really take off.

So far, it doesn’t look like our government is going to do anything to change the system that inflated house prices; in fact, it looks like they are working to re-inflate the housing bubble to the degree they can. If nothing is done to prevent this from occurring again, it certainly will.

I think today’s featured property is very attractive and desirable — except for the price tag. I would be delighted to live here.

10 E Yale Loop 1   Irvine, CA 92604  kitchen

Asking Price: $819,000

Income Requirement: $204,750

Downpayment Needed: $163,800

Purchase Price: $167,500

Purchase Date: 8/24/1978

Address: 10 E Yale Loop #1 Irvine, CA 92604

Beds: 4
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 2,156
$/Sq. Ft.: $380
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Traditional
Stories: 2
Floor: 1
View: Lake
Year Built: 1977
Community: Woodbridge
County: Orange
MLS#: P696994
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 1 day

A rare opportunity to live ON the lake in the heart of one of America’s
most desirable cities. Everything about this 2-story, 4-bedroom home
says luxury and elegance, from the lustrous wood floors to the
beautifully remodeled kitchen with Dacor cooktop, to the view across
the 30-acre lake while you dine on the front patio. Dozens of upgrades
like crown molding, recessed lighting, newer heating and a/c systems
& patio speakers in and out make this the home you’ve dreamed of.
Take a walk around the wonderful Woodbridge community or relax with
friends in your spacious patio backyard with freestanding spa. The
owners spent thousands on the master bath remodel, with travertine
walls and floors & rich granite countertop. Best of all, enjoy
everything Woodbridge has to offer: tennis, two lakes, lagoons,
clubhouse, barbecues, fire pits and approximately 28 community pools.
This is your once in a lifetime chance, better hurry!

This is your once in a lifetime chance, better hurry! Does bullshit like this really create a sense of urgency in people?

Today’s featured property was purchased on 8/24/1978 for $167,500. I don’t know what their original financing was. After 31 years of ownership, the property should be paid off. It’s not, of course, but I doubt any of you are surprised at this point. There were a few HELOCs in the 90s, but it wasn’t until 5/31/2001 when the owners refinanced with a $468,500 first mortgage that things get interesting. There is another mortgage recorded on 5/30/2003 for $322,000. It is unclear whether or not this is a refinance of the first — which would require them to pay back almost $150,000 — or if this was a stand alone second. Even if this final mortgage was their only debt, they now owe more than double what they paid 31 years ago. If both mortgages still exist, this might be a short sale.