The people who spent their homes are the ones selling now. Today we have two in the same neighborhood.
Asking Price: $558,880
Address: 182 Garden Gate Ln Irvine, CA 92620
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There’s a stale morning light
In the garden where you lay
All through the night
Through this poisoned nightmare
Have you set yourself free?
The Garden — The Creepshow
The theory that prices can hold up in Irvine all revolve around resident’s ability to make mortgage payments (They better not fall behind). If everyone in their overpriced homes continues to make their payments, then we will not have large numbers of REO, and prices will deflate slowly as the cash buyers spend themselves and fundamentals catch up. At least that is the theory. (There is also the theory that house prices have bottomed and that they go up by magic.)
I have profiled dozens if not hundreds of properties where the owners increased their debts and effectively spent their homes. The most distressed owners have already been foreclosed on, but there are many more spenders in distress due to the enormous debt burdens and the shaky economy. This crisis is not over until all the HELOC abusers have been flushed from their homes. Until then, we will see them bolt from the ethers like the properties today.
From The English Garden:
First, I want to say this is one of my favorite neighborhoods in
Irvine. It features architecture reminiscent of a small English village
with quaint cottages. There are few visible garages, the sidewalks are
detached from the street, and the trees make for a great street scene.
It is very close to Canyon View Elementary in Northwood. If prices were
not ridiculous, I would buy in this neighborhood.
Asking Price: $558,880
Income Requirement: $139,720
Downpayment Needed: $111,776
Purchase Price: $186,000
Purchase Date: 4/4/1998
Address: 182 Garden Gate Ln Irvine, CA 92620
Beds: | 2 |
Baths: | 3 |
Sq. Ft.: | 1,182 |
$/Sq. Ft.: | $473 |
Lot Size: | 2,132
Sq. Ft. |
Property Type: | Single Family Residence |
Style: | Cottage |
Stories: | 2 |
Year Built: | 1998 |
Community: | Northwood |
County: | Orange |
MLS#: | S585660 |
Source: | SoCalMLS |
Status: | Active |
On Redfin: | 7 days |
IS NESTLED ON A LARGE, PRIVATE INTERIOR LOT W/ A WRAP AROUND YARD.
LOWER LEVEL OFFERS AN OPEN, BRIGHT GREAT ROOM W/ MANY INTERESTING
ARCHITECTURAL TOUCHES, CUSTOM BUILT-INS, A ROMANTIC FIREPLACE AND
HARDWOOD FLOORING. CENTRALLY LOCATED KITCHEN IS IDEAL FOR ENTERTAINING
AND OFFERS A GAS COOKTOP, MICROWAVE, HUGE CUSTOM PANTRY AND RECESSED
LIGHTING. UPPER LEVEL INCLUDES A MASTER SUITE W/ SHOWER, DUAL SINKS AND
A WALK-IN CLOSET; OFFICE W/ BUILT-INS AND TRACK LIGHTING; AND A JUNIOR
SUITE W/ FULL BATH. ADDITIONAL AMENITIES INCLUDE CUSTOM PAINT, EUROPEAN
BERBER CARPET ON UPPER LEVEL, CEILING FANS, GARAGE FAN, CUSTOM STAIR
RAILS WITH COTTAGE CUTOUTS, AND HEATING/AC SYSTEM UPGRADED W/ 2ND
BUILT-IN FRESH AIR SUPPLY (BOTH LEVELS) TO ALLOW BALANCING TEMPERATURES
UP & DOWN. CHARMING DUTCH DOOR LEADS TO PATIO & WRAP AROUND
YARD W/ A BRICK PORCH, PEBBLE AGGREGATE WALKWAY W/ BRICK ACCENTS,
MALIBU LIGHTS AND AUTOMATIC SPRINKLERS.
Do the Europeans make better berber carpeting as well as better bidets?
- This property was purchased on 4/4/1998 for $186,000. The owners used a $137,000 first mortgage, and a $49,000 downpayment.
- On 6/22/1998 they opened a HELOC for $10,000.
- On 1/19/2000 they opened a HELOC for $50,000.
- On 1/31/2001 they refinanced with a $210,000 first mortgage.
- On 6/29/2004 they opened a stand-alone second for $69,500.
- On 3/9/2005 they refinanced the stand-alone second for $130,000.
- On 1/10/2006 they refinanced the first mortgage for $348,924.
- On 3/31/2008 they refinanced the first mortgage for $342,141.
- Total property debt is $342,141.
- Total mortgage equity withdrawal is $205,141 including their $49,000 downpayment.
Surprisingly, this isn’t egregious compared to many I have profiled, and their debt is low enough they will not be a short sale. Is this sophisticated financial management or crazy and lucky? If given the chance, people who have succeeded using these techniques will use them again.
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Our second property has been featured before in A Warning about HOAs.
Asking Price: $670,000
Income Requirement: $167,500
Downpayment Needed: $134,000
Monthly Equity Burn: $5,583
Purchase Price: $499,000
Purchase Date: 6/28/2002
Address: 74 Turnbury Lane, Irvine, CA 92620
Beds: | 3 |
Baths: | 4 |
Sq. Ft.: | 2,400 |
$/Sq. Ft.: | $279 |
Lot Size: | 3,562
Sq. Ft. |
Property Type: | Single Family Residence |
Style: | Other |
Stories: | 2 |
Year Built: | 1999 |
Community: | Northwood |
County: | Orange |
MLS#: | S564755 |
Source: | SoCalMLS |
Status: | Active |
On Redfin: | 179 days |
be converted into a bedroom. kitchen has large center island with
granite counter top. Laminate wood floor, Beautiful backyard with
covered patio and built-in B.B.Q. Master bathroom has tub and european
bidet.
At least I know what the bidet is for now….
- This property was purchased on 6/28/2002 for $499,000. The owners
used a $399,000 first mortgage, and a $100,000 downpayment. So far so
good. - On 5/20/2003 they opened a HELOC for $82,000.
- On 10/4/2004 they opened a HELOC for $248,000.
- On 4/18/2006 they refinanced with a $650,000 1 year ARM.
- On 6/13/2006 they opened a HELOC for $160,000.
- Total property debt is $810,000.
- Total mortgage equity withdrawal is $411,000 including their $100,000 downpayment.
If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss to the lender will be $180,200 assuming this borrower fully tapped the HELOC.
There is plenty of talk about a bottom. The market cheerleaders and denial inducers are working overtime. Do you really think this is a bottom?