Monthly Archives: February 2013

Attached or Detached?

Inventory as of February 2nd, 2013: 223.

As Irvinites take the Christmas lights off, and drag their tree away for recycling, they couldn't help but notice that the property prices are on the rise. Now that the house was getting professionally cleaned post-holidays, many thought why not, lets test the market – if WTF listing price works, might as well make some money and trade up!

As I scanned through the twenty listed properties in North Park/ West Irvine area, I noticed a familiar address. 10 Mineral King. I had covered this blog in my previous blog “Kings of their domain“. The property was listed at $699,800 then, and delisted, and now it's listed at $719,000.

Listing Price: $719,000

Beds: 4

Baths: 2.5

Sq. Ft.: 2,477

Price/Sq. Ft.: $328

Property Type: Residential, Single Family

Style: Two Level, Other

Year Built: 2000

Community: North Park

Builders Tract Name: Evergreen

Builders Tract Code: EVRG

Builders Model Code: 4

Monthly Mortgage: $2,563

HOA Dues: $328/month ($183+$145)

Property Tax ( 1.0593%): $7616 Annually

Mello Roos: $1,401 Annually

Monthly Property Tax+ Mello Roos: $751

Fixed Monthly Expenses: $3,642

Here is a brief sales history for 2012:

12 Millbrae $292/SF

7 Three Rivers $300/SF

17 Crescent City $276/SF

16 Crescent City $278/SF

16 Apple Vly $289/SF

14 Apple Vly $278/SF

Why do these Single Family Residences sell for much lower than the trending $350/SF+ in North Park?

Partly because all these are listed as “attached” Single Family Residences.

What are attached Single Family Residences?

They share a wall with their neighbor, just like Condominiums, but you own the land below your building. Also, this particular property has two HOA dues just like a condominium, adding up to $328 per month.

Floor Plan:

At 2477 SF, the house is spacious, but all the bedrooms, and retreats and full size bathrooms are upstairs. There is no guest bedroom, or home office downstairs. Also, the for the house this size, the kitchen looks cramped. There is no significant yard either. Most of the condominiums have bigger yards. Also, two and a half bathrooms are too little for a four bedroom house.

For the same price, what else is on the market close-by?

12 Proclamation Way. Comparing a property from West Irvine to North Park isn't a fair comparison, but unless you are hung up on a particular builder, these do fall under the same zip code and share the same sales statistics.

Listing Price: $799,000

Monthly mortgage: $2864

Mello Roos: $1129

Property taxes: $8463

Taxes + Mello Roos Monthly: $799

Fixed Monthly Expenses: $3663

What would you do?

Would you buy an attached property in a guard gated community with all bells and whistles, or a detached property? Would the builder's name change your decision? Do you check pending litigations, and past records of the builder before buying?

Share your thoughts at Talk Irvine.

Closed Sales from 1/24/2013 to 1/30/2013

Date Sold Address Zip Tract Sold Price Beds SqFt
Airport Area
1/25/2013 2251 Watermarke 92612 Watermarke (WATR) $480,000 2 1450
Columbus Grove
1/24/2013 33 Water Lily 92606 Lantana $898,500 4 2803
El Camino Real
1/28/2013 31 Oval 92604 Walnut Square $321,000 2 1044
1/28/2013 15191 Touraine 92604 Ranch $920,000 4 2550
Northpark
1/24/2013 5 Grapevine 92602 Manchester $1,075,000 4 3250
1/30/2013 20 Spyrock 92602 Campanile $815,000 3 1995
Northwood
1/24/2013 5 Lakepines 92620 Lakes, The $351,400 2 1369
1/24/2013 26 Bamboo 92620 Camellia $1,018,000 5 3100
1/24/2013 33 Trailing Vine 92602 Tamarisk $390,000 2 1186
1/24/2013 55 Essex 92620 Carlyle at Lanes End $730,000 3 1990
1/25/2013 153 Trellis 92620 Glenneyre at Lanes End $472,000 2 1039
1/25/2013 209 Springview 92620 0 $180,100 1 639
1/30/2013 178 Streamwood 92620 $161,000 1 639
Orangetree
1/25/2013 245 Tangelo 92618 unknown $240,000 2 1000
1/28/2013 7313 Apricot 92618 * $336,500 2 975
Portola Springs
1/25/2013 41 Distant Star 92618 Ironwood $704,990 4 2423
1/28/2013 15 Sacred Path 92618 Sevilla $590,000 3 1800
Quail Hill
1/24/2013 31 Vermillion 92603 Casalon $600,000 4 1825
1/24/2013 35 Tall Oak 92603 Ivy Wreath (IVWR) $635,000 3 1800
1/30/2013 159 Stepping Stone 92603 Casalon (CASA) $490,000 3 1590
Turtle Ridge
1/30/2013 57 Arborside 92603 Arborel $755,000 3 1548
1/30/2013 118 Jadestone 92603 Ashton Green $495,000 3 1347
Turtle Rock
1/24/2013 16 San Ramon 92612 Pointe – Turtle Rock $835,000 3 2178
1/29/2013 5031 Paseo Segovia 92603 Campus View $802,000 4 2202
University Park
1/30/2013 29 Willow Tree 92612 Garden Homes (Village Park) $599,000 3 1708
Walnut
1/24/2013 3732 Blackthorn 92606 College Park $649,000 4 2535
1/25/2013 5151 Walnut 92604 Wildflower $370,000 2 1142
West Irvine
1/26/2013 95 Ardmore 92602 Sheridan Place $525,000 3 1638
Westpark
1/28/2013 5 Salina 92614 Vista West Park $772,000 4 2138
1/28/2013 8 Salerno 92614 Other $768,000 3 2187
Woodbridge
1/25/2013 23 Whitecloud 92614 Seaport $525,000 2 1355
1/28/2013 1 Bitterwood 92604 Patio Homes (WB) $636,000 3 1538
Woodbury
1/24/2013 103 Hallmark 92620 Four Quartets $525,000 2 1745
1/25/2013 98 Marblehead 92620 Montecito $875,000 4 2336
1/28/2013 123 Regal 92620 Garland Park $460,000 3 1735

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