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A Review of the Esplanade Tract (Plan 4) at Woodbury

Hello readers, I'm Nilam and was one of the first original fans of IHB (might have something to do with the fact that I'm married to zovall/Omkar). I've lived in Irvine since 2003 and am very happy to call the city home to our family of three, which includes our one year old daughter. While I have no formal real estate training, I love to write and learn about our community, and do so from the perspective of a mother and wife. I'm a stay at home mom these days but in my former life, I was a web marketing executive at an insurance company and hold an MBA from the University of Arizona and a BA from UCLA (go Bruins!).

Recently I took a tour of Plan 4 in the Esplanade tract in Woodbury. I really wasn't interested in the smaller units so I spent my time in the Wisteria model.

For some, it might seem strange that a home of this size would be attached. I felt that way too, until I moved to Irvine and drank TIC's Kool-Aid became familiar with the more recent home offerings. Land squeezing in Irvine has been discussed to death on this blog so I won’t belabor the point. Honestly, I was just happy to see this square footage at this price (go ahead – judge away – but I haven't seen too much in Irvine with this kind of pricing on a new home of this size in a while so I was curious). Here’s a link to the homes and here are the facts:

Village: Woodbury

Tract: Esplanade

Model: 4: Wisteria

Square Feet: 2074

Bedrooms: 3

Bathrooms: 3

Price: Release 5 span from $535,575 (may have builder incentives available)

Base Property Tax: 1.05% of sales price

Mello Roos: $4623 per year

Association fees: $105 for Woodbury community, $193 for Esplanade tract

Builder: Taylor Morrison

While I normally find something off about model homes and their décor, I must say, this one was impeccably furnished/finished. So much so that when I first walked in I was enamored. Let’s start downstairs.

Upon entry, you come into a short corridor. To your right are the stairs to the second floor (Please excuse the stroller).

To the left, an entry to the first bedroom and ¾ bathroom (no tub but very nicely finished shower). The bedroom is a decent size and faces the front of the house.

Past the bedroom and stairs is a great room that I really liked. It includes a kitchen with a large island spilling over into a family room with a dining area off to the side. The family room and dining area are lined with windows and since there are no walls separating these areas, they really add light to the space. The kitchen didn’t have a walk-in pantry but the cabinet space and counter space seemed ample and I likes me some space in the kitchen.

Whoever decorated this model did an outstanding job. I walked into that room and thought, “Wow. This is a space I’d love to live in.” It felt big and I liked it! But then I kept looking…

On the other side of the great room is the home management (?) center (fancy term for a couple desks along the wall) in a skinny corridor followed by a utility room. The utility room is also long and skinny; the washer and dryer are lined up along one wall and had a sink on one side and a counter on the other. Beyond that is the door to a side by side two car garage.

The garage had additional space for storage. Did I mention it was a side by side garage? Sorry, that really appeals to me because our current garage is tandem and I am amazed at the ways my body has contorted to get in and out of our car. But back to this model.

Off to the side of the living space is a small (and I do mean small) courtyard. I found this disappointing. For 2074 square feet; it would be nice to see more outdoor space and in the description I had read before visiting, it seemed like there would be some space for a little one to play around in. Well, at least the little one could stand around out there.

Despite the airiness of the great room, the layout of the home gives a slightly awkward feel upon entry because it is obvious that the home is long and thin, which reminds you that the layout is a condo. It’s clear that the design was meant to fit this condo mold, rather than a home that was designed in an ideal way. The more I thought about it, the more I realized that the decor was what I liked, not the home. It's actually kind of like a submarine, long and skinny.

On to the second floor! At the top of the stairs, there is another awkward view of the long skinny floor plan. When I saw the plan on paper, the space seemed more awkward than it did in reality but it's still strange.

The master bedroom was a decent size with a nicely upgraded bathroom attached. The shower stall is large and the model had attractive earthen tiles next to a full sized tub. Beyond the bathroom is a nice square walk-in closet. The master also has a Juliet’s balcony that didn’t really add to the bedroom in my opinion. Maybe if there was a view, or an area to sit, it would make more sense. Or maybe if we were in Verona, and there was a gentleman calling, it would make more sense. In this place, it didn’t. All in all the master was nice but not particularly outstanding.

The loft wasn’t huge – the designer had placed a flat screen on the wall but the space seemed small for that. It might serve well as a playroom or hobby studio.

Off of the loft is a linen closet and the third bedroom. The third bedroom was larger than I expected. This full bath was also nicely furnished and the space itself is pretty good and didn’t feel cramped.

Here are some of the pros and cons to this model as I see ‘em:

Pros:

• Large rooms

• Great room is open and airy

• Side-by-side garage

• Pricing is decent compared to other homes of this size

• Corner unit (only share one wall)

• None of the living space is above or below anyone else’s unit

Cons:

• Long, skinny plan is awkward

• Very small outdoor space

• Bedroom downstairs is not ideal for families with multiple young children (although if your in-laws are visiting, this might be a pro!)

• No powder room for guests

While there were some really nice things about this home, it wouldn't be a fit for our family. Have you visitied Esplanade? What do you see as the pros and cons?

The Village of Woodbridge

Wendy Larson has lived in Irvine for over twelve years. She graduated from Woodbridge High School, took some courses at Irvine Valley College and eventually graduated from Penn State University as the Student Marshal with Highest Distinction. After graduation, Wendy was awarded a teaching assistantship in the South of France. After a year of working abroad Wendy moved back to Irvine. She is currently a Senior Operational Trainer at a health care company in Costa Mesa. Wendy spends her free time writing, public speaking and mentoring individuals looking to improve their speaking skills.

Located in one of the most picturesque areas of Irvine, Woodbridge Village offers distinct housing communities, charming views and an atmosphere that appeals to families, couples and singles alike. Nestled between the major streets of Jeffrey and Culver, and intersected by Barranca Parkway (North Lake) and Alton (South Lake), Woodbridge Village is situated around two gorgeous lakes and is convenient to all community amenities.

The residential communities consist of a mixture between single family residences, condos and apartments. Take a drive on East Yale Loop and West Yale Loop to get a scope of the residential neighborhoods within Woodbridge Village. This area is intrinsically unique in look and feel from the rest of Irvine. Much of the community is maintained by the Woodbridge Village Association, to which residents must pay homeowner’s association dues. The Association owns and operates 41 recreational facilities and does a great job ensuring these facilities are clean and well landscaped for all to enjoy.

The area has a close proximity to dining, shopping, parks, and athletic fields. Dotted along Barranca Parkway are major shopping centers, including the Woodbridge Village shopping center, The Crossroads, Woodbridge Square and the District at Tustin Legacy. If you’re looking for entertainment, dining and shopping in one spot, Woodbridge Village is just a hop, skip and a jump away from the nearby Irvine Spectrum. If education is your top priority, Woodbridge Village is within walking distance to Eastshore Elementary, Stone Creek Elementary, South Lake Elementary, Meadow Park Elementary, Lakeside Middle School, Woodbridge High School and Irvine Valley College. The Woodbridge Village shopping center also offers extracurricular educational facilities including Kumon Math and Reading Center, Mission: Renaissance Fine Arts Classes, and Aloha Mind Math.

The most popular attractions of this region are the North and South lakes. Two bridges, one spanning across Alton and the other crossing Barranca Parkway, link together the pedestrian access to both lakes. Enjoy the mountain backdrop as you relax in the gazebo on the lake, and watch the children feed the ducks. Or, grab a window booth in Ruby’s Aqua Diner and enjoy a meal while gazing over the water.

If fitness is on your agenda, you’ll appreciate how the layout of the community encourages exercise by providing bike trails where cyclists and joggers can enjoy a pleasant and safe route through the neighborhoods. CorePower Yoga offers day, night and weekend classes for beginners to advanced yoga enthusiasts. And of course, nearly all major gyms are within fifteen minutes driving distance.

With its convenient location, stunning views, and alluring housing, it’s worth giving Woodbridge Village some consideration if you want to buy in the city of Irvine. If you’re thinking it seems too good to be true, you may want to scope out the area to see if it’s right for you. Let me point out a few things you may want to consider should you decide to take a deeper dive into the community.

The oldest parts of Woodbridge date back to the 1970s, and it is obvious the housing is more dated than the rest of Irvine. The majority of Woodbridge Village was designed to reflect the New England Cape Cod style, which is visually prominent in the housing tracks bordering the lakes. But let’s be honest here folks. This is not Cape Cod, nor does it feel like Cape Cod! You can only pull off the Cape Cod style on the East Coast. It doesn’t belong in Orange County. California has its own coastal flair. We are deeply rooted in a contemporary look and feel, which the newer communities celebrate. The early architects of Irvine may not have fathomed the growth and development of the planned communities that currently populate the city. The California stucco and neutral color palette that characterize the newer housing and retail developments make Woodbridge Village stick out like a sore thumb. Because of the change in aesthetics, Woodbridge Village seems old.

The Woodbridge Village shopping center is drab. It’s one of the few timber constructed centers in all of Irvine. The wooden shingle exteriors and deeper paint colors make the center seem dark with too much shade. Other than Ruby’s, Stein Mart and Barnes & Noble, there aren’t any big name retail draws. Sometimes I wonder how these businesses keep their doors open. Ten years ago it used to be full of boutique style shops, but newer strip malls attract more crowds and the center is now home to more medical offices rather than stores. While the Woodbridge Village shopping center contains a movie theatre, the movies are several months old and have already cycled through the regular circuit. By the time the movies reach the Woodbridge Village theatre you’ll have read the reviews online or have gotten the Cliff’s Notes version from your kids. There is a sandbox area with over-sized concrete frogs that the kiddies can climb on, but let’s face it, with awesome lakes flanking both sides of the center the frogs seem a little lame. I don’t want to paint the wrong picture of the center. It’s a nice center to walk through and relax in. I just think the whole center, much like Woodbridge Village, needs an overhaul or at least a facelift.

There are additional areas that need some love. The scars of failed businesses and empty buildings give the area a depressive feel. For example, the Waters Restaurant is now an empty shell sitting on the lake. With its premium location, the restaurant was once an impressive dining experience. Currently it’s boarded up. A razed gas station surrounded by a chain link fence in the parking lot of the Woodbridge Village shopping center, is an eyesore. The timber constructed Bank of America has packed up shop and the space is now inhabited by a less well-known credit union. Then there’s the dark wooden shingle Wachovia building. It looks like it’s sagging. Maybe it’s because Wells Fargo bought them out. Other areas look downright deserted. Some people might call the neighborhoods quiet. Others would describe it as a reminder of tough times. I think that if retail traffic increased and if the buildings could be updated, Woodbridge might have a fighting chance. The truth is however, that Woodbridge Village has been overrun with medical offices that cater to the nearby retirement community. It would be hard to restore it.

Woodbridge Village is still a wonderful community to live in. Just because it’s an older community doesn’t mean it lacks charm. My advice: look at the big picture and decide if Woodbridge Village matches your preferences.

Closed Sales from 1/12/2012 to 1/18/2012

Here are the closed sales in Irvine over the last week (1/12/2012 – 1/18/2012). See anything interesting? Did you visit any of these homes?

Date Sold Address Zip Tract Sold Price Beds SqFt
Airport Area
1/17/12 2410 Watermarke Pl 92612 Watermarke $210,000 1 635
El Camino Real
1/17/12 14841 Doheny Cir 92604 Willows $371,000 3 1112
Northwood
1/12/12 41 Appomattox 92620 Fieldstone Classics $517,500 3 1504
1/13/12 84 Remington 92620 Horizon $326,000 3 1224
1/13/12 7 Bellezza 92620 Woodside $895,000 4 2951
1/18/12 174 Pineview 92620 Lakes, The $289,900 2 1202
Orangetree
1/12/12 273 Tarocco 92618 Unknown $249,000 2 995
1/13/12 267 Orange Blossom 92618 Lake Condos $205,000 2 880
1/13/12 146 Orange Blossom 92618 Lake Condos $160,000 1 739
Quail Hill
1/12/12 22 Nightshade 92603 Casalon $430,000 3 1600
1/12/12 37 Nightshade 92603 Casalon $475,000 3 1553
1/17/12 31 Windchime 92603 Sage $510,000 3 1500
Rancho San Joaquin
1/14/12 2 Solana 92612 RSJ Townhomes $345,000 2 1404
Turtle Ridge
1/12/12 109 Danbrook 92603 Ashton Green $445,000 2 1398
1/12/12 203 Danbrook 92603 Ashton Green $515,000 3 1324
1/17/12 116 Roadrunner 92603 Whispering Glen $548,000 3 1610
Turtle Rock
1/12/12 43 Copper Crk 92603 Shady Canyon Custom $2,670,000 5 7500
1/13/12 5971 Sierra Bravo Rd 92603 Broadmoor $730,000 3 1580
1/13/12 27 Vernal Spring 92603 Shady Canyon Sycamore $2,575,000 4 4820
Walnut
1/12/12 3972 Capri Ave 92606 Colony $580,000 4 1868
Westpark
1/13/12 2202 Ladrillo Aisle 92606 Brio $377,500 2 1219
Woodbridge
1/18/12 71 Goldenrod 92614 Stonegate $422,000 3 1370

43 Copper Creek and 27 Vernal Springs are actually in Shady Canyon. For such a difference in size, it is interesting that the price is so similar. Any ideas why that may be the case?

The house on Doheny seems to be a low price for a detached SFR (that what it seems to be to me). The listing shows that it definitely needed some work. It is on a 6,000 square foot lot though.

Buy or rent at Monticello in Northpark Square

28 Taquitz is a 3bd/3ba 1,826 sq. ft. attached condo in the Monticello tract in Northpark Square. Monticello is located across from Beckman High and is bounded by Bryan, Rubicon, Rosenblum, and Montellena. The streets inside Monticello are: Taquitz, Leucadia, Cosentino, Cabazon, and Idyllwild.

Monticella has 4 main floorplans:

Plan 1 – 2 Bed / 2 Bath 1211-1289 square feet

Plan 2 – 2 Bed / 2 Bath 1398 square feet

Plan 3 – 2 Bed / 2 Bath 1471-1663 square feet

Plan 4 – 3 Bed / 3 Bath 1826 square feet

28 Taquitz is a Plan 4 and is listed at $499,000

There is one other Plan 4 that is active and that is 27 Leucadia which is listed at $509,900.

And there is one Plan 4 that is Pending Sale: 9 Cabazon which is a short sale listed at $425,000.

A quick search revealed 3 Plan 4's sold in the last year:

10/20/2011 9 Leucadia $430,000
9/16/2011 10 Taquitz $470,000
6/27/2011 28 Taquitz $481,000

Yes, 28 Taquitz was purchased just about 6 or so months ago. It looks like it was bought for cash and the agent is the owner – not sure why they are selling now.

Seems like the sales prices have a pretty wide range. I'll use an average of the closed and pending sales for the analysis – $451,500

Here's what the numbers might look like if purchased by someone with excellent credit and 20% down:

Purchase Price $451,500
Closing costs $13,545 3%
Total price $465,045
Down payment $103,845 20%
Loan Amount / Percentage Of Price $361,200 80%
Interest Rate / Period (months) 4.00% 360
Monthly Yearly
Mortgage Payment $1,724 $20,693
Interest Component $1,204 $14,448
Property Tax $399 $4,784 1.06%
Special Assessments $107 $1,285 0.28%
Effective Tax rate 1.34%
Insurance $50 $600
HOA 1 $227 $2,724
HOA 2 $74 $888
Cash Out $2,581 $30,973

There are some possible adjustments that may apply to your situation. Be sure to also consider how long you may own the property (average is around 6 years), what kind of financing you actually qualify for, how much you put down, the effect of giving up the standard deduction, potential price declines, costs to sell the property, etc. The NY Times Buy or Rent calculator is a great tool that helps with some of these.

Possible Adjustments
Interest paid $14,448
Property tax $4,784
Total deductible $19,232
Tax benefit $401 $4,808 25%
Opportunity cost of down payment -$173 -$2,077 2%
Principal paid in mortgage payment $520 -$6,245

So, what do these Plan 4s rent for? I didn't find much in terms of closed leases but 43 Leucadia is listed at $2550/month.

Based on this info, would you buy 28 Taquitz for $451k or rent it for $2550/month? If you wouldn't buy it fo $451k, what price would you pay for it?

Open House – 18711 Paseo Picasso in Turtle Rock

It’s difficult to critique a pre-owned house, because for so many years it wasn’t just a house, it was a home to a family. It’s almost like shell-shock reviewing an older house since up until now I’ve been focused on new developments. I often think well-loved properties have more charm and individuality and I’d say that I’m personally inclined to purchase an older residence, rather than a cookie cutter home. 18711 Paseo Picasso was an eye opener for me.

Here’s the 411 on 18711 Paseo Picasso:

Purchase price: $675,000

Bedrooms: 3

Bathrooms: 1.75

Square footage: 1710 Sq. Ft.

$/Sq. Ft.: $395

Property Type: SFR

Year built: 1973

Community: Turtle Rock

The HOA dues are $150 per month and there are no Mello Roos.

Brochure

I’m going to come right out and say it. The price is too high for the property. The first thing the real estate agent informed me was that the price was negotiable, which tells me that I’m right. Her selling angle was the location. If I had children I’d consider this neighborhood. It’s perfect for kids. The house is literally just down the street from University High School and Turtle Rock Elementary. There is also a park and community pool around the corner. My initial impression about the neighborhood was that it was old. The houses have the 1970s and 1980s over painted exterior wooden features. I feel like I’d get splinters if I touched the wooden posts. Don’t get me wrong—they’re nice houses, but you can tell they’re forty years old. Here are some of my initial observations:

Pros:

Wood floors

Upgraded countertops in the kitchen and bathroom

Upgraded cabinetry in the kitchen

Travertine floors in the bathrooms

Fireplace

Cons:

Interior wooden posts

Under-developed backyard

Popcorn ceilings

Outdated bathrooms

Low ceilings

Small kitchen

The first thing I noticed walking in the door is how open the living room area is. The high ceiling makes the space feel comforting.

However, I felt like the ugly wooden posts on the interior upset the balance. The wood posts support an overhang that shelters the hallway from the living room, creating a rafter feel.

I didn’t like this at all. I’d expect to find wooden posts on the exterior of the house, but never the interior. I also thought the rafter was wasted space. I left myself wondering how I’d go about fixing that—and I realized that it would translate into dollar signs. There’s a wet bar in the hallway, which is an extra bonus. The countertops have been upgraded, but the cabinetry looks dated.

The homeowners have extended the dining area for extra space. Essentially they created a very tiny nook, and I’m not sure what I’d do with it. I could fit a couple of chairs in the space, but I really didn’t see the benefit. Maybe I’m not thinking outside the box, but the space wasn’t usable in my opinion. Maybe you could put an Ikea desk and chair in there for a small office feature, but I’d feel mighty cramped.

The kitchen was a lot smaller than I expected.

The homeowners spent money upgrading the backsplash, cabinetry, tile and countertops but it wasn’t my decorating style. I still felt like it had a 1980s look to it. I couldn’t get past the fact that the refrigerator had to be placed around the corner because the kitchen was too small to accommodate it. The refrigerator blocks the panty—albeit you can still access the pantry, but it destroyed the flow for me. It’s a functional kitchen, but I couldn’t see myself preparing Thanksgiving dinner in it. I did like that the kitchen featured access to the backyard, which from my understanding is an addition the owners chose to add.

The master bedroom isn’t overly large, but there’s enough space. The closet doors are double sliding mirrors. I’d probably replace the track and invest in a closet organizer. There’s access to the backyard from the master bedroom. The glass door is the only window in the space, and I once again felt caged in.

The remaining two bedrooms are great for kids or even an office. I wasn’t disappointed in the space. It’s the same size room I grew up in. The closets are definitely larger than any of the newly developed houses I’ve previously toured! Off one of the bedrooms was the atrium, which has fallen by the wayside. It’s literally a small concrete square that the homeowners have never done anything with. The real estate agent suggested that I could close off the space, put a roof over it and make it into a den. Indeed this is what the other homeowners in the area have chosen to do with this space. All I could think of was dollar signs. Plus, my little tiny voice inside me said to leave it open and put a fountain or small herb garden out there. If you want to make the investment, you could do a lot with the space and sometimes it’s nice to put the money into something you could make your own.

I wasn’t impressed with the bathrooms. They need a lot of work, and it’s the first space I’d demolish. The master bathroom has the upgraded countertop and travertine floors, but the vanity cabinets need some updating. It looks like it’s the original 1970s stain. The toilet is in a separate room, but you’ll have to rip it out and I’d say the shower and tub need replacing. I noticed that the ceilings seemed rather low, which made me feel like I was in a cave. There’s a small square skylight, but that feature reminded me of its age.

The second bathroom is very small, and the shower doors have this weird frosted pattern. It definitely has to go.

The garage only accommodates one car, but the driveway features a carport. I’m not quite sure how I feel about it. I’d rather have a two car garage. I think the exterior of the house looks more attractive when both cars are in the garage. The full size washer and dryer are located in the garage. There’s plenty of storage in the above rafters.

The backyard is a wrap around and you’ll need to put some time and money planting bushes or flowers in the planters. If you make the effort, the backyard could be a great place to have some friends over for a barbeque, but you’re a long way from getting to that point.

I don’t think this house is bad. I think it needs work, and once you invest the time and money it could turn into something very comfortable. I personally don’t care for houses that have wooden exteriors and this was a big turn off for me. I don’t like wooden terrace carport. The exterior seemed very bland, and I don’t know if there’s much I could do about making improvements. So, I’m going to take a pass on this house. If you get this house at a fair price, meaning lower than $675K, and you have a remodeling budget, you might like it. Turtle Rock is a great place to be in Irvine. From what I observed, the neighborhood seemed friendly and I could be very happy here. With this house, your budget and imagination are the determining factors.