Monthly Archives: October 2009

Ownership Cost: Income, Payments and House Prices

Today I have an in-depth look at how borrower income levels impact payments and house prices; plus, I profile an epic HELOC abuser.

32 Summerwind Irvine, CA 92614 kitchen

Irvine Home Address … 32 Summerwind Irvine, CA 92614
Resale Home Price …… $640,000

{book1}

You always keep me guessin
I never seem to know what you are thinkin
And if a fella looks at you
It’s for sure your little eye will be a-winkin
I get confused, cause I don’t know where I stand
And then you smile, and hold my hand
Love is kinda crazy with a spooky little girl like you
Spooky

If you decide someday to stop this little game that you are playin
I’m gonna tell you all what my heart’s been a-dyin to be sayin
Just like a ghost, you’ve been a-hauntin my dreams
So I’ll propose on Halloween

Spooky — Atlanta Rhythm Section

I revisited my post on Rent Versus Own where I talked about the cost of ownership. Many of the questions people have about our IHB Property Valuation Reports are related to the various cost inputs and how they impact values. Therefore, I want to take each of these costs and talk about them in more detail. In order to do this in a logical flow, I have broken this task into a series of five posts that will be debuting all this week. These posts are:

Ownership Cost: Income, Payments and House Prices

Ownership Cost: Interest Rates and Downpayment Requirements

Ownership Cost: Property Taxes and Mello Roos

Ownership Cost: Homeowners Associations

Ownership Cost: Taxes and Opportunity Costs

I haven’t finished them yet, so we will see if my performance matches my ambitions….

Four Major Variables that Determine Market Price

There are four variables that determine the purchase price of a property:

  1. borrower income,
  2. allowable debt-to-income ratios,
  3. interest rates, and
  4. downpayment requirements.

These variables are impacted by some other minor cost inputs which I will be discussing on Wednesday through Friday, but for the most part, the variables above determine market pricing. The first two variables are the focus of today’s post, and the last two are the topics for tomorrow.

Payment is a direct link to borrower gross income. The debt-to-income ratio allowed by a lender applied to the borrower’s monthly income is the maximum allowable monthly housing expense an underwriter will consider. From this amount, a lender will subtract an allowance for taxes and insurance to calculate the total amount of the available housing expense applicable to debt service. Here is where interest rates enter the calculation.

Lenders have complex formulas — which thankfully are distilled into simple spreadsheet commands — that are used to calculate loan balances, payments and other important numbers. If the payment is known (which we calculated above), and you apply an interest rate and amortization schedule, the inputs can be put into a spreadsheet or financial calculator (or it can be laboriously calculated by hand) to come up with a loan amount.

Once the largest loan amount a certain level of borrower income can support is known, adding the downpayment requirement to the loan amount equals the amount a borrower can pay for a house. At that point it is a numbers game. Are there more buyers at these income levels than properties available? If so, then prices stabilize or go up. If there are fewer buyers than available property, then prices go down. As a society are we going to allow banks to be the new housing cartel releasing product only as they get their price? That is where we are headed.

Borrower Income and Wage Inflation

Borrower gross income is the basis of all lending… or is it? With Stated Income (liar loans), income doesn’t matter… When you think about that for a moment, it isn’t a mystery why liar loans went away first; they undermine the foundation of all lending — accurately measuring borrower capacity.

Wage inflation is the slow increase in aggregate wages over time in a given area. Wage inflation is a driver of price inflation because workers will use wage increases to bid up the cost of goods and services they demand. in a housing market, wage growth pushes up prices as follows:

Assume a worker is earning $100,000 and can borrow $400,000 to bid on property in today’s market. In one year, if this worker gets a 3% raise (not this year), he will be making $103,000, and if other terms do not change, he will be able to borrow $412,000. If he has also increased his savings, the amount he can bid on real estate has also increased by 3%.

A property that might sell for $500,000 today can sell for $515,000 in one year and it is no more expensive in terms of its financial impact; debt-to-income, savings impact, time of amortization — the key variables remain the same. This is “normal” home price appreciation.

Prices should mirror incomes

In a normal real estate market, people at each income strata compete with each other for available properties in their price range. If there is a shortage of supply, shoppers learn to settle for less. Rather than a 3/2, someone settles for a 2/2 with a den. A shortage of supply does not necessarily make for higher prices; it can simply result in a lowered standard of living as people take the income they have and compete for what is available.

Assuming supply is sufficient — which in the long term it always is — the most desirable properties will be held by the highest wage earners, and the least desirable properties will be inhabited by the lowest wage earners. That is how markets work. Is there a better way? The median income will control the median property over time, and the median home price should represent the median income applied to conventional financing metrics.

In Irvine, the last reported median income is $91,101. I doubt it has gone up. If you take $91,101 / 12 x 0.31 = $2,353. That is the maximum amount a median wage earning household should be putting toward housing costs. Looks similar to the median rent, doesn’t it? If you calculate the largest loan amount $2,535 can service at 5.1%, you get $433,454 (real loan balances would be lower due to taxes, HOAs and insurance). If you assume this is 80% of a purchase amount (20% down), then the total purchase price would be $541,818 — a number very close to the current Irvine median.

I am not saying we are at a bottom because I do not believe the government props are stable, and there are future supply issues, but I believe payment affordability is the best it has been in years, and it may not improve even if prices fall further.

What would create demand?

Payment affordability is at an all-time high thanks to the Federal Reserve. IMO, this indicator is likely near its peak for the cycle. The Federal Reserve can make the cost of borrowing so low that any price can be made to cashflow.

Markets like Irvine have not crashed as hard as subprime markets, and since prices are still greatly elevated here, a huge increase in affordability brings the ridiculous into reach. In the beaten down subprime markets, affordability is remarkable.

Here is where it gets strange — prices will continue to fall, and interest rates will be allowed to creep upward resulting in lower payment affordability even as prices move lower. The slow erosion of payment affordability is the inflationary push the economy needs to motivate idle cash — like all of us fence sitters.

People who buy now will experience payment affordability at unprecedented levels in many markets. They will endure a slowly sinking ship that reaches low tide in three to five years. Prices will get back to their entry points in 2015 to 2020. If they wait it out or take a minor loss (amortizing loans with downpayments give them flexibility), they still have mobility, and future ARM meltdowns should be averted.

Buyers over the next three to five years will get lower prices, but it will cost them more to get it because payment affordability will decline with higher interest rates. Perhaps prices will fall fast enough to increase payment affordability, but with the shadow inventory remaining in the shadows, there is no reason to believe prices will be dropping 30% until this inventory hits the market.

Payments using conventional financing are now affordable. Will they remain that way?

Allowable Debt-to-Income Ratios

The Allowable Debt-to-Income (DTI) Ratio is a limit lenders determine is the largest percentage of your wage income you can give them before you go into default on the loan. Lenders have been steadily increasing allowable DTIs since the 1970s. They are out to squeeze every available penny out of your life.

Lenders permit these higher DTIs ostensibly to allow customers to bid on more expensive homes. The result is a higher equilibrium price for all properties in a market and a higher percentage of income that the general population is putting toward debt service. Lenders are knowingly putting their customers in a state of perpetual servitude.

Borrowers sacrifice disposable income in order to service a higher DTI — wait! — is there a way to increase disposable income and service a higher DTI? It would be a panacea…. Lenders solved this problem with the Option ARM, and they used it to inflate The Great Housing Bubble.

{book4}

The moment lenders allowed customers to pay debt with increasing debt, it became a Ponzi Scheme, and it was doomed to crash. It is amazing how large it became; hundreds of billions of dollars flowed into these Ponzi Scheme assets. The collapse of the subprime home mortgage Ponzi pyramid was a precipitating factor that lead to the financial meltdown of 2008.

The beauty of the arrangement was the sales pitch; you can get a huge pile of spending money, pay less per month on your mortgage, and whenever you needed more, the California ATM house will magically refill itself with money through home price appreciation. It was self-reinforcing delusion used to hide a Ponzi Scheme beneath.

I can see why the idea is popular with bankers and customers alike; lenders get to write larger loans which put more investor money to work, and borrowers get to borrow and spend like maniacs. Ponzi Schemes work well in the beginning.

In the end, we are left with a large number of people who greatly overborrowed. The overleveraged masses are realizing that they will have to give up the disposable income and lavish lifestyle if they are going to keep their homes. It is the inevitable result of the failure of lenders to resolve the basic dilemma of increased payments with increaseed borrowing. Many people are walking away.

The mortgage market is struggling to find an equilibrium DTI where borrowers do not default. The first round of loan mods back in 2008 tried to use 38%, and it was a dismal failure. The latest round of loan mods is using 31% (like the FHA), and although the success rates are not much better, the current defaults are strategic based on being underwater, not because they cannot afford the payment.

In short, allowable DTIs are going to retreat to stable levels between 28% and 32% before terms stabilize and we begin on the next Ponzi Scheme.

Interest Rates

Tomorrow’s post is part 2 Ownership Cost: Interest Rates and Downpayment Requirements.

32 Summerwind Irvine, CA 92614 kitchen

Irvine Home Address … 32 Summerwind Irvine, CA 92614

Resale Home Price … $640,000

Income Requirement ……. $119,139
Downpayment Needed … $128,000

Home Purchase Price … $284,000
Home Purchase Date …. 9/9/1994

Net Gain (Loss) ………. $317,600
Percent Change ………. 125.4%
Annual Appreciation … 5.2%

Monthly Mortgage Payment … $2,780
Monthly Cash Outlays ………… $3,620
Monthly Cost of Ownership … $2,720

Redfin Property Details for 32 Summerwind Irvine, CA 92614

Beds 3
Baths 2 full 1 part baths
Size 2,091 sq ft
($306 / sq ft)
Lot Size n/a
Year Built 1981
Days on Market 105
Listing Updated 10/5/2009
MLS Number S581455
Property Type Condominium, Residential
Community Woodbridge
Tract Wc

According to the listing agent, this listing may be a pre-foreclosure or short sale.

Wow,Woodbridge Beauty, Inside The Loop, Close to Lake & Swimming Lagoon. It’s Gorgeous,3 Bedrooms,2 1/2 Bath,Plus Upstairs Bonus Room/Office. 2 Car Direct Access Garage,Remodeled Kitchen and Bathroom,Granite Countertops,Custom Lighting,Beautiful Cabinets,Designer Flooring,Engineered Wood,18’x18′ Porcelain Tile Stainless Steel Fridge Microwave, Window Blinds,Separate Family Room and Living Room with Gas Fireplace With Large Mirror,Master Bedroom Retreat Area,If That Were Not Enough,Enjoy The Enclosed Gardener’s Delight Landscaped and Hardscaped Yard With Covered Patio,Enjoy All That Woodbridge Has To Offer,Lakes,Lagoons,Swimming Pools,Tennis Courts,Walking & Bike Trails,Excellent Schools,It Just Feels Like Home.

Title Case? Why Do People Write In Title Case? You Have To Remember To Press Shift At Each Word, And It Slows You Down. Plus It Is Very Difficult To Read.

TheListingAgentDoesn’tLikeSpacesEither.

  • This property was purchased on 9/9/2004 for $284,000. The owners used a $213,000 first mortgage and a $71,000 downpayment. The 2000 purchase amount was part of a divorce settlement and does not reflect the price of the property at the time. After the split, our remaining owner began sipping kool aid.
  • On 6/18/2001 he opened his first HELOC for $20,000.
  • On 10/10/2003 he refinanced the first mortgage for $341,000.
  • On 10/10/2003 he opened a HELOC for $99,000.
  • On 10/28/2005 he refinanced the first mortgage for $600,000.
  • On 11/4/2005 he opened a HELOC for $250,000.
  • Total mortgage debt is $850,000 assuming he maxed the HELOC.
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal is $637,000 including his downpayment.

This guy borrowed and spent over $600,000 in about 3 years (2003-2005). It must have been quite a party.

IHB: The Mission of the IHB

The Mission of the IHB

The mission of the IHB is to provide general real estate education, to analyze and report market conditions, and to help people buy and sell homes.

The IHB Story

The IHB story is about a community of real estate watchers and seekers who banded together to tell the Truth about housing. The community grew strong through an exchange of information and entertaining online interaction; it was fun.

Out of this community, and the bubble blog community as a whole, a consensus opinion emerged of when, how and why an epic price crash was going to occur. I became one of the community scribes documenting the disaster and ultimately writing The Great Housing Bubble. It is the entire IHB community through research and reasoned opinion that created a collective consciousness bigger than all of us.

The binding principals and wisdom of the IHB guided us in the selection of services Ideal Home Brokers provides.

IHB Services

We perform the following services: (1) provide real estate instruction and evaluation; (2) foster a community of like-minded educators, professionals and everyday people in the IHB forums; (3) supply unique property valuation reports to our clients; and (4) assist buyers and sellers without pressure, manipulation, or emotional appeals.

The IHB began as the Irvine Housing Blog in September of 2006. The scope of the IHB was expanded in May of 2009 when the Ideal Home Brokers was added to its acronym. In the summer of 2009, the IHB: Ideal Home Buying process was unveiled.

Educate People about Residential Real Estate

The IHB started as a hobby to vent frustration, evolved into a source of real estate education, and now serves as a source for many to communicate and learn about local real estate. When the IHB entered the scene, the misinformation in the popular culture was astonishing, and it culminated in a massive real estate price bubble. We at the IHB want to make sure this disaster of The Great Housing Bubble never happens again.

The education from the IHB is free to all. Everything written for the IHB—over 200,000 words in over 1,000 posts and numerous PDF white papers—is available in multiple formats on our websites, www.irvinehousingblog.com and www.irvinehousingbrokers.com. There are many topics under the broad heading of residential real estate that can be found at our two sites. Your education continues there.

Part of this service is our commitment to nourish a community of educators, professionals and everyday people who come together to share their knowledge and real estate experience in the Irvine Housing Blog community forums. We have attracted parties from many disciplines and all walks of life. The forums are quite active and visited by over 1,500 people a day. If you have a specific question not answered by this book or the writings on our educational websites, you are encouraged to visit the forums and pose your questions there or email an IHB professional directly. At the IHB, we are here to serve.

Provide Honest and Fact-Based Assessment of Property Valuations

The Ideal Home Brokers exists to serve the needs of buyers and sellers. We provide a unique value-added service with our proprietary pre-bid and pre-listing report. We provide an unbiased opinion of value and a conceptual framework to help people understand the negotiation they will be undertaking. We make this same report available to both buyers and sellers.

With our accurate valuation reports we help sellers better understand the market conditions, price their homes properly, and maximize resale value. When we represent buyers we use these same reports to educate them on current and potential future market values. We help them to analyze the cost of buying as compared to renting to make sure the buying decision is the right one. Moreover, we believe in honest information based negotiation. We strongly believe that our client’s success is dependent upon creating a win-win transaction in which both the buyer and the seller are happy. Both parties know that they have participated in a fair and honest transaction free of deceptive sales tactics and manipulative negotiation.

Only the Truth

The sale of real estate sales is marred by the deplorable sales methods of many of its practitioners. The education and training of many agents is marked by high-pressure sales tactics, outright manipulation of both parties through emotional appeals, and a lack of clarity and honesty in communication. Much of the writing of the IHB emanated from a deep personal disgust with these practices and recognition of the role they played in the inflation of The Great Housing Bubble. No sales representative of the IHB will use these tactics; we have a zero-tolerance policy for violations.

There are many honest and ethical Realtors in the profession who are as dismayed about these sales tactics as we are. We hope our presence and practices serves as a call to action to good Realtors everywhere. We make our methods known to all in the hope that these methods and practices become adopted by others in the industry.

The IHB treats all customers with respect and provides integrity and honesty (and even bluntness) that our clients find refreshing. We provide free education, value-added services, and service with integrity and honesty. We are here to serve you.

Thank you again for allowing us the opportunity to present ourselves to you in this manner. We look forward to working with you.

Sincerely,

Larry Roberts

When you are ready to buy or sell a home, we are here to serve you.

sales@idealhomebrokers.com

IHB News 10-24-2009

Quiet week at the IHB. The housing market is facing supply shortages, low volumes and high prices. When will this change?

7 Heritage Irvine, CA 92604 kitchen

Irvine Home Address … 7 Heritage Irvine, CA 92604
Resale Home Price …… $359,000

{book1}

You may be an ambassador to England or France
You may like to gamble, you might like to dance
You may be the heavyweight champion of the world
You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls.

But you’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You’re gonna have to serve somebody,
It may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody.

Gotta Serve Somebody — Bob Dylan

Irvine Company News

ICDC New Home Collection Press Release — Irvine Company — Fall 2009.pdf

New Home Neighborhood Fact Sheet — Irvine Company — Fall 2009.pdf

New Home Builder Profile Fact Sheet — Irvine Company — Fall 2009.pdf

Housing Bubble News

Since this is a weekend, and you may have more time, I want to call your attention to a 45-minute presentation by John Burns on the real estate market. He is probably the best and most knowledgeable financial forecaster working today.

Webcast: US Housing – Recovery on Government Life Support?

Why the Housing Bubble Was Local, Not National

New York Times‎Oct 20, 2009‎

An economist says look not to
national policy but local regulation: “restrictive growth management
was a necessary condition for the housing bubble.

Home prices fall 0.3% in August, FHFA says

MarketWatchRex Nutting‎Oct 22, 2009‎

The biggest price gains in August came in the Pacific region (up 1.2%) and Mountain region (up 0.8%), where the housing bubble was the most intense.

Haven’t We Learned Anything From The Meltdown? istockAnalyst.com (press release)

Housing prices forecast to fall in 2010 — and could keep falling for years

Daily Finance (blog)‎Oct 21, 2009‎

All of these data points suggest some pernicious drivers of the bubble haven’t changed in the three years since the housing bubble popped.

Guess What: The Housing Bubble Is Already Back

The Business Insider‎Oct 20, 2009‎

But we were wrong — the housing bubble is back. Sure, prices aren’t at their old levels, but everything else is in place. Generous government involvement

A new housing bubble

Economy NewsWill Peters‎Oct 21, 2009‎

These are gains that could suggest the emergence of a new bubble. However if we are to start talking about housing bubbles and of a return to an inflated

Our Subprime Federal Goverment

City JournalNicole Gelinas‎Oct 20, 2009‎

Indeed, such write-downs should be a healthy part of the economy’s readjustment to a post-bubble world. They would help address the housing bubble’s legacy:

{book2}

Today I want to feature a couple of Irvine condos with designs based on a prison cell-block.

2105 Apricot Dr #2105 Irvine, CA 92618

2105 Apricot Dr #2105 Irvine, CA 92618

7 Heritage Irvine, CA 92604 kitchen

Irvine Home Address … 7 Heritage Irvine, CA 92604

Resale Home Price … $359,000

Income Requirement ……. $66,075
Downpayment Needed … $71,800

Home Purchase Price … $207,000
Home Purchase Date …. 8/2/2001

Net Gain (Loss) ………. $130,460
Percent Change ………. 73.4%
Annual Appreciation … 7.1%

Monthly Mortgage Payment … $1,542
Monthly Cash Outlays ………… $2,230
Monthly Cost of Ownership … $1,720

Redfin Property Details for 7 Heritage Irvine, CA 92604

Beds 3
Baths 1 full 1 part baths
Size 1,200 sq ft
($299 / sq ft)
Lot Size n/a
Year Built 1977
Days on Market 5
Listing Updated 10/13/2009
MLS Number S592421
Property Type Condominium, Townhouse, Residential
Community El Camino Real
Tract Hv

What a showplace! Beautifully remodeled kitchen featuring hardwood cabinets, granite counters, and brand new stainless steel appliances. Luxurious, high quality and stunning hardwood and travertine floors topped off with custom baseboards. Classically elegant 2-tone paint decor with crown molding. All three bedrooms are upstairs and quite large. Downstairs is a huge living room, a remodeled 1/2 bathroom, and a versatile country kitchen that leads to your private patio. Association facilities include a pool area and a large park. Next door is the Heritage Park complex with a world class aquatic center, acres and acres of parks, lagoons, tennis courts, library, recreation clubhouse, and a fine arts center. Unlimited places to shop are just seconds away from Trader Joes to sushi and everything else in between.

Can this ugly condo credibly be called a “showplace?”

Mariposa

Today we will take a closer look at the community of Deerfield.

13 Mariposa Irvine, CA 92604 inside

Irvine Home Address … 13 Mariposa Irvine, CA 92604

Resale Home Price …… $709,000

{book3}

{book1}

Reincarnation, is a dead refrain

So this what it's like to be a butterfly

Reborn

Dead.

Is this the gift of fire?

Or the making of a perfect diamond

Digital climber plummets

In a canceled dive.

Reincarnation — Discordance Axis

Much of Irvine has been around since the 1970s. The older neighborhoods have seen three real estate cycles including The Great Housing Bubble. Each one becomes more volatile than the last. House prices skyrocket, then they fall to earth with a thud. The neighborhood values values begin to come back in time (it will be a very long time in this cycle), and the God's of Kool-Aid reincarnate. The cycle repeats anew.

Deerfield

I have said it before, but I really like Deerfield. From the community profile:

Deerfield Sign

In the heart of Irvine there are a number of small neighborhoods that are less well known than Woodbridge or Turtle Rock or some of the other larger or newer communities. These neighborhoods are no less interesting or well planned than their more famous brethren. One of these hidden gems is the community of Deerfield.

Deerfield Map

Deerfield is north of Woodbridge bounded by Irvine Center Drive, Culver Drive, Yale Avenue and the rail line which bisects Irvine. Deerfield Avenue is the main collector street moving traffic throughout the community. There is an apartment complex at the corner of Irvine Center and Culver, and there is other high-density housing north of Deerfield Avenue near the railroad tracks. The remaining housing is a mixture of one and two story dwellings. Deerfield was one of the earlier communities developed. It's buildout was complete in 1976.

(Mariposa is butterfly)

Deerfield Map 2

Life in Deerfield revolves around the large community park. This park together with an elementary and middle school comprise a large central greenspace. There are a series of pathways linking three satellite parks to the community park. This is a great master plan which allows children to walk or bike to school or the park without crossing busy streets.

This is one of those abstract land planning ideas that comes together really well on the ground. The planners envisioned this community would be as livable and as charming as it is. It is a far superior land plan to the grids of nearby El Camino Real or the Ranch. FWIW, I would buy in this neighborhood.

Some weekend afternoon if you are looking for something to do, go to the Deerfield community park at the entrance off Irvine Center Drive. According to the city of Irvine website:

Deerfield Community Park

55 Deerwood West

Deerfield Park 1

Located between Culver and Yale along Irvine Center Drive.

Click here to get directions.

Park Hours:

Monday-Friday 9:00am-9:00pm

Saturday 9:00am to 10:00 pm

Sunday 12:00pm-6:00pm

Phone: 949-724-6725

Facility Reservations: 949-724-6620

Reservation Information:

Deerfield Park 2

Deerfield Community Park has a multi-purpose room,

craft room & picnic area available for reservation.

For a list of rate categories, capacities and hourly

fees click here.

*Note: Additional fees may apply. Review the

complete policy for additional fees.

*Bounce houses allowed with reservation only.

Approximately 10.1 acres in size.

Park amenities:

Deerfield Park 3

  • 1 multi-use building
  • 1 restroom
  • 5 drinking fountains
  • 2 child play areas
  • 1 open play area
  • 1 concession stand
  • 4 lighted tennis courts
  • 2 lighted volleyball Courts
  • 2 racquetball courts
  • 1 disc golf course
  • 1 fitness par course
  • bicycle trail access
  • 4 barbecues
  • 1 outdoor sink
  • 1 group picnic area
  • 11 picnic tables
  • electrical outlets

{book2}

13 Mariposa Irvine, CA 92604 inside

Irvine Home Address … 13 Mariposa Irvine, CA 92604

Resale Home Price … $709,000

Income Requirement ……. $130,494

Downpayment Needed … $141,800

Home Purchase Price … $140,000

Home Purchase Date …. 1/1/1980

Net Gain (Loss) ………. $526,460

Percent Change ………. 406.4%

Annual Appreciation … 5.6%

Monthly Mortgage Payment … $3,045

Monthly Cash Outlays ………… $3,970

Monthly Cost of Ownership … $2,970

Redfin Property Details for 13 Mariposa Irvine, CA 92604

Beds 4

Baths 3 baths

Size 2,700 sq ft

($263 / sq ft)

Lot Size 5,400 sq ft

Year Built 1975

Days on Market 14

Listing Updated 10/9/2009

MLS Number S591308

Property Type Single Family, Residential

Community El Camino Real

Tract Dc

Will be painting soon…choose your colors… RARE 4 BEDROOMS + OFFICE/DEN!!! – MASTER BEDROOM + ONE BEDROOM + OFICE/DEN + 2 BATHROOMS DOWN – 2 BEDROOMS + BATHROOM UP – EXPANDED,UPGRADED,UPDATED – BEST LOCATION, On a quiet,inside street, away from traffic-Steps to pool,spa and park-KIDS CAN WALK TO SCHOOL WITHOUT CROSSING A SINGLE STREET -Faces the morning sun-GREAT CURB APPEAL,Brick and Stucco, Manicured Landscaping–Vaulted ceilings-Wood Floors in Entry, Hall, Dining Room, Family Room-Plantation shutters throughout-Custom recessed lighting,Updated Kitchen, warm-tone Oak Cabinets,Ceramic tile, Smooth-top range, Double oven – BATHROOMS have beed updated-HUGE Family Room features…Dramatic,used brick fireplace- Inside Laundry Room-Very private back yard-Newer concrete shake roof- SELLERS SAY SELL…Will work with offers.

When you look at this house in this neighborhood, you can see someone making $130,000 a year living there. The affordability as measured by payment and income qualifications is good, but look at the price; isn't that just wrong?

It is difficult to get your mind around prices at very low interest rates. If you change interest rates to 8% and kept the other numbers the same, the resale home price would drop over $200,000 due to the reduced loan size. At $509,000, the numbers all make sense for a rational world where the FED doesn't engineer interest rates. How long will the FED keep this up?

At least over the weekend….

Thank you for reading the Irvine Housing Blog: astutely observing the Irvine home market and combating California Kool-Aid since September 2006.

Irvine Housing Blog No Kool Aid

Have a great weekend,

Irvine Renter

😉

Flip This House

Today we have a flipper in Northwood II trying to make a quick $125K. Will he get it?

27 Secret Gdn Irvine, CA 92620 kitchen

Irvine Home Address … 27 Secret Gdn Irvine, CA 92620
Resale Home Price …… $949,000

{book1}

I leave you with photographs
Pictures of trickery
Stains on the carpet and
Stains on the scenery
Songs about happiness murmured in dreams
When we both us knew
How the ending would be…

Disintegration — The Cure

Isn’t there a certain inevitability to the disintegration of the market? Isn’t foreclosure really the cure? The previous owners that had this house overborrowed and overpaid. The property is being recycled, and the new owners will borrow much less and will borrow with much more stable terms. It isn’t that the process is painless; it is the ending we know is coming, and it must simply be endured.

In the meantime… we have flippers trying to make a quick buck. Today’s featured property was purchased for $764,150 at auction. The flippers are trying to make about $125,000 after commissions for providing the liquidity that is required at auction. They can turn around and sell it in the financed resale market for 10% to 20% more, so they do.

I am sick of flippers.

I would rather see a family get a property like this at auction prices, but it is difficult to learn the process and research the properties to find deals — difficult, time-consuming and intimidating, particularly for novices, and the penalty for a mistake is tens of thousands of dollars.

Wouldn’t it be great if families with cash had a seasoned trustee sale buyer to help them? I am working on that one…

27 Secret Gdn Irvine, CA 92620 kitchen

Irvine Home Address … 27 Secret Gdn Irvine, CA 92620

Resale Home Price … $949,000

Income Requirement ……. $174,666
Downpayment Needed … $189,800

Home Purchase Price … $764,150
Home Purchase Date …. 9/24/2009

Net Gain (Loss) ………. $127,910
Percent Change ………. 24.2%
Annual Appreciation … astronomical%

Monthly Mortgage Payment … $4,076
Monthly Cash Outlays ………… $5,430
Monthly Cost of Ownership … $4,090

Redfin Property Details for 27 Secret Gdn Irvine, CA 92620

Beds 4
Baths 2 full 1 part baths
Size 3,069 sq ft
($309 / sq ft)
Lot Size 4,820 sq ft
Year Built 2005
Days on Market 2
Listing Updated 10/15/2009
MLS Number S592736
Property Type Single Family, Residential
Community Northwood
Tract Came

EQUITY SELLER, Not a short sale or REO. Corporate owned, free and clear. Bring your pre-approved buyers and close FAST! Gorgeous, like new home located in the gated community of Northwood. Shows like a model home. Fabulous kitchen with granite countertops and brand new Viking appliances including a new refrigerator. Huge Master Suite with large walk-in closet. Large studio over garage with separate entry. Travertine tile, hardwood flooring and upgraded carpet. Built-in stainless steel BBQ island in backyard.

Of course it is an equity seller; it is a flipper!

I would be ready to close fast too if I stood to make $127,910.

BTW, “flippers” may become the buzzword of 2010, and it isn’t house flippers….