Monthly Archives: June 2009

Open Thread 6-13-2009

If the “green shoots” meme is for real, I am not seeing it.

Since this recession began in December of 2007, we have had never-ending denial from government and the media as to how bad this situation really is. In early 2008, the Federal Government passed a stimulus package that pumped some money into the economy and bought us a little time. It wasn’t enough. By late summer of 2008, the problems had not resolved themselves, and we finally had a major economic meltdown in late 2008.

When Obama came to office, the Federal Government passed another even larger stimulus package, and the Federal Reserve lowered interest rates to zero. As a result, we have managed to put a temporary and artificial floor under house prices locally (although they continue to fall nationally), and we have inflated both the stock market and the commodities market. There is no fundamental reason for asset values anywhere to be rising, but the influx of money from the Government and the FED is pumping up values anyway.

The problem with these artificially induced price rallies is that they do not reflect underlying fundamentals. There is no need for businesses to expand right now because there is very little demand, and consumers keep losing jobs. Absent government stimuli, prices would still be falling.

I work on the front lines of the land development industry in Southern California. I watch markets for residential and commercial properties, and in particular, I closely watch the demand for new development. I can tell you right now that there is none. Private land development across California is practically non-existent. There is some public works stuff going on, and a few school and healthcare projects, but for the most part, land development is dead.

Economists who have studied the economic cycles of the past have noted a strong correlation between land development activity and the broader economy. On academic paper goes as far as to say that Housing is the Business Cycle.pdf.

The past does not always repeat itself, and it is possible that we will have an economic recover that does not coincide with the resurgence of housing and land development. I hope so because right now, housing and land development is not showing any green shoots.

2003 is Bust: Huntington, Northwood, Irvine

2003 Rollbacks are the leading edge here in Irvine, and they are becoming much more common.

123 Huntington kitchen

Asking Price: $299,900

Address: 123 Huntington, Irvine, CA 92620

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Make sure you check out this post over at Huntington Homes.

Take Me Back to Chicago — Chicago

I still dream of the lake of peacefulness
The warm summer breeze
cause my life was so much simpler then

I grew up in the Midwest. My hometown has a population of 2,000 people; the entire county has only 15,000. Needless to say, the pace of life is much slower there, and you have an overriding sense than nothing important ever happens. It is either peaceful or boring depending on your point of view. Sometimes I long for those carefree summer days spent in the woods or at the lake. Maybe after I stop stressing about the economy and the housing market, I will take a vacation.

IHB Party 6-30-2009 at JT Schmids at the District

I remember looking at properties when I first moved to Irvine in 2003. I thought the prices were absurd. Anyone who compared the cost of renting to owning in 2003 knew immediately that something was wrong.

Not being a California native, I had never tasted kool aid. Housing markets in the Midwest where I grew up are notoriously stable. The economics nearly always favors ownership there because it is almost always cheaper to own than to rent (the bubble changed that in many big cities); there is little volatility. Even in Florida where I lived before coming here, prior to the Great Housing Bubble, prices matched the cost of construction, and they were not volatile.

It is clear to anyone who comes to California from a market with little or no volatility that the beliefs of Californian’s about home price appreciation are crazy; trees cannot grow to the sky. For people that grew up here, it is taken as a normal part of life. Don’t prices go up 10% or more where you are from?

Now that we are getting back to 2003 price levels, the prices are still crazy. If interest rates fall back below 5%, this property might be at rental parity, but it is still not a bargain. This is not typically owner-occupied quality property. This is a place you rent while you are saving up to buy a home; it is transitory. It should be much less expensive.

When properties like this one represent a 20%-25% savings over renting considering the total cost of ownership, the low end will find a bottom. The artificially low interest rates have slowed the decline, but with higher interest rates on the horizon and the second wave of foreclosures on its way, it certainly looks as if lower prices are on the way.

123 Huntington kitchen

Asking Price: $299,900

Income Requirement: $74,975

Downpayment Needed: $59,980

Monthly Equity Burn: $2,499

Purchase Price: $368,500

Purchase Date: 12/5/2003

Address: 123 Huntington, Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 2
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,052
$/Sq. Ft.: $285
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Cape Cod
Stories: 2
Floor: 1
View: Greenbelt
Year Built: 1987
Community: Northwood
County: Orange
MLS#: S576696
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 2 days

Gorgeous TOWNHOUSE, Dual Master Suites, 2.5 baths, 1 car detached
garage plus 1 carport. Granite kitchen countertops & baths.
Stainless steel kitchen appliances. Crown moldings and travertine style
italian tile. enclosed patio. Inside laundry. Skylight. Crown and base
moldings. Located in one of the best areas of Northwood. Close to 5
FWY, Irvine Valley College, and Orchard Park. No Mello Roos, low HOA,
and low tax rate. APPOINTMENT ONLY…..CALL FOR APPT. 9AM TO 7PM
ONLY….24 HRS NOTICE… FOR APPT.FHA approved. NO UNIT #, PLEASE LOOK
FOR ADRESS.

ADRESS?

This property was purchased on 12/5/2003 for $368,500. The owner used a $168,500 first mortgage and a $200,000 downpayment. There were no other refinances.

I feel sad for this guy. Here is a responsible buyer who put a huge amount down, he did not HELOC himself up to peak values and rip off a lender, and now he is going to lose money for it. By the time he sells this place, he is probably out $100,000 of the $200,000 he put down.

Many of us who rented during the bubble have joked about our regrets for not gaming the system and siphoning a couple of hundred thousand from some stupid lender, but few of us lost anything. Imagine how this guy must feel….

School of Hard Knocks on Scholarship, Jamboree Corridor, Irvine

The school of hard knocks is a costly way to learn about real estate markets. The owners of today’s featured property are learning a very hard lesson as their property has lost 39% of its resale value in just over two years.

5053 SCHOLARSHIP inside

Asking Price: $550,000

Address: 5053 Scholarship, Irvine, CA 92612

Schools Out For Summer — Alice Cooper

School’s out for summer
School’s out forever
School’s been blown to pieces

I have been educating people on the workings of residential real estate since I began writing for the IHB more than two years ago. Two of the concepts I focus on are the cashflow valuation of property as its fundamental value and the price appreciation due to irrational exuberance. Any readers who have absorbed these concepts have a framework for understanding the rise and fall of home prices, and they have a reasonable approximation on price levels where the market will stabilize. This is a significant financial advantage of those who speculate and randomly guess where house prices will go next.

Many people who purchased during the bubble had little or no understanding of real estate markets (despite their beliefs to the contrary). Many of the clueless masses are learning very painful lessons from the school of hard knocks. Today’s featured property is one such learning experience.

IHB Party 6-30-2009 at JT Schmids at the District

5053 SCHOLARSHIP inside

Asking Price: $550,000

Income Requirement: $137,500

Downpayment Needed: $110,600

Purchase Price: $902,000

Purchase Date: 5/15/2007

Address: 5053 Scholarship, Irvine, CA 92612

Beds: 2
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,430
$/Sq. Ft.: $385
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Hi-Rise/Mid-Rise Condominimum, Modern/Hi-Tech
Stories: 1
Floor: 5
View: Canyon, City Lights, City, Hills, Mountain
Year Built: 2007
Community: Airport Area
County: Orange
MLS#: S577049
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 1 day

lite-brite

WOW!! HIGHLY UPGRADED LUXURIOUS CONDO. EAST SOUTH SIDE, VERY LIGHT
& BRIGHT. SPACIOUS 2BED W/ VIEW & 2.5 BATH. REMOTE CONTROLLED
ALL WINDOW SHADE. UPGRADED LIGHTINING SYSTEM.GORGEOUS HARDWOOD
FLOOR.ALL GRANITE COUNTER TOPS.BUILT-IN WINE REFREGERATOR.GORGEOUS
ITALIAN CABINETS.MORE MORE!!! A PLUS PLUS.

WOW!! ALL CAPS AND MULTIPLE EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!

A PLUS PLUS MINUS MINUS MINUS MINUS MINUS MINUS MINUS MINUS MINUS MINUS MINUS MINUS MINUS

This property was purchased on 5/15/2007 for $902,000. The owners used a $725,000 first mortgage and a $177,000 downpayment. The owners opened a HELOC for $87,700 a few months later. For their sake, I hope they maxed it out.

In the two years that have passed since they made this investment, they have lost every penney they put into the deal and their credit is trashed. All this in only two years; that is a hard knock.

You can just imagine the sale back in 2007, the buyers thought they were savvy real estate investors poised to make a fortune in the new OC high rise. It hasn’t exactly turned out as planned.

Some may look at this and think, “it was the market,” as if there were no indications that this investment might not turn out well. Many people foolishly buy into the narrative without doing the math. They buy a load of bullshit about real estate always goes up, or buying into these new towers where all the foreign investors will buy them later at inflated prices, or any of the fantasies of speculation on appreciation. Narrative does not measure value, it measures gullibility.

Buy the math, not the mythology.

Reservoir of Value? Bayberry Way, University Park, Irvine

Can real estate serve as a long-term reservoir of value? For the most part, the answer is no.

18 Bayberry Way kitchen

Asking Price: $690,000

Address: 18 Bayberry Way, Irvine, CA 92612

IHB Party 6-30-2009 at JT Schmids at the District

Agenda Suicide — The Faint

All we want is just pretty little homes,
Our work makes pretty little homes,
Agenda Suicide. The drones work hard before they die
And give up on pretty little homes.

Has anyone paused to think of the ramifications of what happens if prices never become affordable again? What happens if all future generations are priced out forever?

Lately, houses have been purchased by people with large downpayments. With the limited availability of financing–meaning lending based on real incomes and sustainable terms–people are only being allowed to borrow so much money. This new borrowing limit plus the cash reserves people have been putting forward have been sustaining our housing market for the last several months. How long can that go on? Forever?

Can houses become a reservoir of value? Will houses be passed on from generation to generation with each one assuming a massive debt and a mountain of equity? That seems pretty unlikely, particularly given the spendthrift ways of our HELOC abusing populace. As a reservoir of value, houses have proven to be quite leaky.

Someone, somewhere will be financing a home purchase. First time buyers without an inheritance will have an empty reservoir. Therefore, any neighborhoods populated by first-time buyers cannot by their nature be reservoirs of value. Also, area incomes are by far the biggest determinant of long-term property values. Take a look at what is happening in Detroit’s real estate market. Prices are far below replacement costs and in many areas are worth only their salvage value. House prices in these areas depreciate like cars because jobs are leaving the area and incomes are declining. There is no reservoir value in real estate under those conditions.

Even under the influence of irrational exuberance, there comes a point
when house prices reach the absolute limit of prices supportable by
wages. Once this point is reached, prices cannot and will not rise any
faster than the rate of income growth (unless the finance industry
“innovates” again). If appreciation is limited by wage growth, houses
cease to have significant investment value and only serve as an
inflation hedge. Once the illusory investment value disappears, people
will not receive a great rate if return on their investment, and they will not be motivated to overpay for it (owning for $5,000 per month when you can rent for $3,000). The loss of investment incentive over the long term would cause prices to stabilize at rental parity.

Houses in neighborhoods dominated by the working-class will be dominated by local wages. Entry level housing in these neighborhoods cannot be reservoirs of value because first-time buyers do not have sufficient savings to sustain inflated prices. Unique properties in high-end neighborhoods may store some value, but even these properties are subject to the wealth accumulated by would-be homeowners.

Real estate is a cashflow investment and an inflation hedge. Despite claims to the contrary, it is not the road to unlimited wealth and spending power.

18 Bayberry Way kitchen

Asking Price: $690,000

Income Requirement: $172,250

Downpayment Needed: $137,800

Monthly Equity Burn: $5,742

Purchase Price: $478,000

Purchase Date: 6/26/2002

Address: 18 Bayberry Way, Irvine, CA 92612

Beds: 4
Baths: 4
Sq. Ft.: 2,700
$/Sq. Ft.: $255
Lot Size: 3,200

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Townhouse
Stories: 2
View: Greenbelt
Year Built: 1967
Community: University Park
County: Orange
MLS#: S576481
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 4 days

Upgraded 4 Bedrooms,2.5 Baths,approx. 2700 Sq.Ft. in desirable
University Park. Upgraded with Travertine throughout downstairs,granite
counters in kitchen,Customized bathrooms with custom tile in showers
and tub/shower and counter tops. Private patios in front and rear.
Upgraded dual pane sliders to patios. Tall ceiling in Living rooms with
lots of windows to ceiling in Living Room and entry way. Very Bright.
Two fireplaces, one in Master Bedroom and Living Room. Low association
fees with No Mello-Roos-Community pool,spa,and tennis
corts-Award-winning Irvine Schools and convenient to
shopping,resturants,schools,library,and frreway acess and close to
U.C.Irvine.

resturants? frreway acess?

This property was purchased on 6/26/2002 for $478,000. The owner used a $448,125 first mortgage and a $29,875 downpayment. It looks as if this owner paid down the mortgage! The current debt is only $332,840. If this sells for its current asking price, the owner stands to profit handsomely. Maybe conservative borrowing does pay off after all.

FSBO Needs Help on Camphor, University Park, Irvine

You don’t need a realtor to sell property. If you know how to market and negotiate, you can do most of the work yourself; however, if you are not skilled in these areas, perhaps a little help might be in order.

3 Camphor S back

Asking Price: $440,000

Address: 3 Camphor S, Irvine, CA 92612

Check out an interview with me at Matt Padilla’s blog, Foreclosure is the ‘cure’.

On My Own — Three Days Grace

I walk alone
Think of home
Memories of long ago

Being a listing agent is where the real money is made in real estate. It takes much less time and effort, but it does take some financial risk in property marketing–although most seem to defer to the MLS and the Internet. Good agents are obsessed with obtaining listings because they know that is where the real money is.

The relationship between cost and value is debatable, but what value there is in the work of a good listing agent can be readily identified. In our modern Internet era, there are really only two things an agent needs to do: (1) obtain good property photographs, and (2) write a good property description. Any property that has those two things will sell itself on the MLS through sites like Redfin or the many others that provide MLS search capabilities. Any agent who can not do these two things well really should not get any listings.

Today’s featured property is For Sale By Owner (FSBO). As such he has probably already been contacted by dozens of agents trying to get his listing. He probably should have taken one of them up on their offer.

This property is a complete mystery to me. There is no description, the photo of the front is so bad that I cannot tell which property is for sale, and the photo of the back yard leaves more questions than it answers. This is a perfect example of how not to market a house. The only way this sells is because the inventory in Irvine is so limited that people will do their own research to find any available deal.

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Just for a little fun, let’s see how many problems we can identify with the photos.

  • The photo of the front immediately draws your eye to a light pole. WTF?
  • It was taken with a fish-eye lens that distorts everything in the picture.
  • What s that at the base of the light pole?
  • Why is this so out of focus? Was it taken on a camera phone?
  • Are those stepping stones in the grass? They do not seem to lead anywhere.
  • Don’t the trees make this yard look tiny (it probably is).

3 Camphor S back

Asking Price: $440,000

Income Requirement: $110,000

Downpayment Needed: $88,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $3,667

Purchase Price: $488,000

Purchase Date: 11/16/2004

Address: 3 Camphor S, Irvine, CA 92612

Beds: 2
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 1,184
$/Sq. Ft.: $372
Lot Size: 2,957

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single family
Year Built: 1974
Community: Irvine
County: Orange
Listing #: 25493785
Source: Zillow
Status: Active
On Redfin: 5 days

I recogize that most descriptions are a useless waste of words, but give me something….

This property was purchased on 11/16/2004 for $488,000. The ower used a $390,000 first mortgage and a $98,000 downpayment. He refinanced in 2005 and took out most of his downayment with a $388,000 first mortgage and a $97,000 stand alone second.

If this property sells for its asking price–which doesn’t seem very likely–the lender will lose most of the second mortgage.