Monthly Archives: May 2009

Big Balls

One advantage of a big house is entertaining guests in a fancy ballroom. When buyers wonder why the asking price is so high, owners can say, “because I have big balls.”

5 New Dawn ballroom

Asking Price: $1,998,518

Address: 5 New Dawn, Irvine, CA 92620

BTW, if you want to see some of the biggest balls in Orange County, check out the new Coto Housing Blog, and check out this HELOC abuse case in San Clemente.

Big Balls — AC/DC

Well I’m upper upper class high society
God’s gift to ballroom notoriety
And I always fill my ballroom
The event is never small
The social pages say I’ve got
The biggest balls of all

The United States has always been a society of the have and the have nots. That is how capitalism works. The disparity of wealth and income is the incentive society allows the individual to motivate hard work, innovation and contribution to societal goals. Communism was an attempt to create a classless society, but it failed, mostly due to the failure of the society to provide any tangible rewards for individual effort. Socialist societies try to strike a balance between the two extremes by allowing a measure of income disparity, but not allowing very much of it by taxing residents very heavily. For better or worse, we are about to take a big step toward Socialism here in the United States.

The schism between the haves and the have nots is notable in our current real estate market. The low end of the market is getting pummelled. Have you looked at the prices in Orangetree or The Lakes lately? Every unit in there is being offered for 30%-45% off, and the bottom is nowhere in sight. Despite the collapse in pricing at the low end, the high end seems to think they are immune. Asking prices are typically at WTF levels with many owners believing their properties have appreciated 30%-45% since the peak. Some owners ask these prices from willful ignorance, but some just have big balls.

Some balls are held for charity
And some for fancy dress
But when they’re held for pleasure
They’re the balls that I like best

We all know the party is over. Everyone had their fun during the bubble, but the time has come to pay the piper, and he is only accepting cash. People will buy up these high end properties, but the end will not be quite as high when prices stabilize. Perhaps when prices are reasonable relative to incomes, people will have money left over from their wage income to throw big parties. It will not be as much fun as the bubble years with all the HELOC funding, but as long as people want to entertain, we will still have big balls.

5 New Dawn kitchen

Asking Price: $1,998,518

Income Requirement: $499,629

Downpayment Needed: $399,703

Monthly Equity Burn: $16,654

Purchase Price: $690,000

Purchase Date: 6/22/1999

Address: 5 New Dawn, Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 4
Baths: 5
Sq. Ft.: 4,600
$/Sq. Ft.: $434
Lot Size: 8,084

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Other
Stories: 2
Year Built: 1998
Community: Northwood
County: Orange
MLS#: P665398
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 178 days

This stunning Rosegate estate features 4 Bedrooms ( one downstairs
w/full bath),4.5 Baths, 4 car garage, separate home office, hardwood
floors, designer granite kitchen, family room,upstairs bonus room or
giant 5th bedroom, custom woodwork and built-ins, custom
closets,Plantation shutters and over $180,000 in upgrades. The master
retreat has dual walk in closets as well as a quiet sitting area This
Taylor Woodrow built dramatic home is perfect for owners who love to
entertain. Great attention was paid to details in every room of this
beautiful home. Association parks, pools and tennis courts and Hicks
Canyon Hiking Trails are a short walk away. This is a private enclave
of estate homes that rarely come on the market. No need to preview, it
shows like a model. Sound system in LVRM, Family Room & Master
Bedroom. Check out award winning schools just minutes away!

The word “stunning” needs to come out of the realtor vocabulary.

over $180,000 in upgrades. So that is why this is worth $1,300,000 more than they paid. [smacks forehead]

LVRM?

This is a private enclave
of estate homes that rarely come on the market. Oh, really?

8 New Dawn, Irvine, CA 92620; Price: $1,999,000

71 New Dawn, Irvine, CA 92620; Price: $1,749,000

73 New Dawn, Irvine, CA 92620; Price:
$1,899,000

Can you pick out the “estate” in this map?

This owner has delisting dementia.

Property History for 5 New Dawn

Date Event Price
May 15, 2009 Relisted
May 08, 2009 Delisted
May 08, 2009 Relisted
Apr 26, 2009 Delisted
Apr 19, 2009 Relisted
Mar 05, 2009 Delisted
Mar 05, 2009 Relisted
Mar 04, 2009 Delisted
Feb 26, 2009 Relisted
Feb 25, 2009 Delisted
Feb 11, 2009 Relisted
Feb 10, 2009 Delisted
Feb 01, 2009 Relisted
Jan 20, 2009 Delisted
Nov 18, 2008 Listed $1,998,518
Jun 22, 1999 Sold $690,000

This owner has no grip on reality, but at least there is no HELOC abuse. The property was purchased on 6/22/1999 for $690,000, and the owner used a first mortgage of $350,000 and a downpayment of $340,000. The first mortgage has been refinance twice, and the final balance is $301,000. This owner actually paid down a mortgage! If this property sells for its current asking price, the owner stands to make a fortune.

Of course, we all know this property is not going to sell for its asking price, but it takes courage to ask that much. With all the foreclosures in the pipeline, anyone who buys this place must be brave as well. I guess it takes big money to have big balls…

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Well I’m upper upper class high society
God’s gift to ballroom notoriety
And I always fill my ballroom
The event is never small
The social pages say I’ve got
The biggest balls of all

I’ve got big balls
I’ve got big balls
They’re such big balls
And they’re dirty big balls
And he’s got big balls
And she’s got big balls
(But we’ve got the biggest balls of them all)

Big Balls — AC/DC

Irvine's Future REO Inventory

Right now there are more houses in some stage of foreclosure than there are current listings of properties for sale. The lifting of foreclosure moratoria is causing a spike in default notices. The second wave is building.

The owner of today’s featured property recently cut the price $100,000 in an effort to move it before the wave hits.

26 Longshore kitchen

Asking Price: $499,999

Address: 26 Longshore #31, Irvine, CA 92614

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See my profile of Oak Creek at Irvine Homes blog.

We’re Ready — Boston

We’re ready now
Catchin’ a wave to ride on
Steady now
headin’ where we decide on
And I know that there’s something that’s just out of sight

It is conventional wisdom in the housing blog community (and the OC Register) that a giant wave of foreclosures is coming later this year, but what facts do we have that support this thesis? Today, we take a look at the available data and show this wave in its formative stage.

Foreclosure is a four step process: (1) the borrower quits making payments, (2) the lender issues of Notice of Default, (3) the lender issues a notice of Trustee Sale, and (4) the foreclosure auction occurs on the courthouse steps. Steps 1, 2 and 3 are separated by 90 days each. At any time during this period, either the borrower can get current with their payments, or the borrower and lender can agree to a loan modification. If either contingency occurs, the foreclosure process is aborted.

California passed SB1137 to force lenders to try harder to reach borrowers in default and work out a loan modification plan. Also, the GSEs and many large banks were on voluntary or mandated foreclosure moratoria. This caused a dramatic decline in Notices of Default (step 2). Unfortunately, as I noted Moritorium on Defaults Announced, stopping lenders from issuing notices does nothing to prevent borrowers from actually defaulting (step 1). Borrowers everywhere stopped making payments, and lenders merely stopped issuing notices about it.

The hope of foreclosure moratoria is that additional time will allow lenders to work out the bad loans and avoid the foreclosure process. Unfortunately, it did not work. First, very few borrowers even try to work out the loan with the lenders, and many who try fail to reach an agreement. Second, most who have agreed to a loan modification end up defaulting again; the redefault rate is running at about 50%. And third, financially it is in a borrower’s best interest to give up the house in foreclosure, so the only thing keeping them in the loan and in the home is their sense of morality concerning the payment and their attachment to their properties.

By far the best writing on this subject is coming from Mark Hanson, aka Mr. Mortgage. He has access to all the mortgage and foreclosure data, and he does a great job analyzing it.

His graphs and charts show exactly what we would expect to find; a temporary decline in defaults while loan modifications are attempted followed by a dramatic increase once the moratoria are lifted. This is statewide data in California, but it doesn’t tell us much about Irvine.

We all know what has happened to pricing in less desirable communities dominated by subprime lending. The initial wave of foreclosures wiped these areas out. Prices in many areas are down 50% to 70%. The decline in these areas did not occur because they were less desirable (a conceit common among high-end property owners); the decline occurred there first because their loans reset first.

Updated ARM Reset Chart 5-9-2009

The loans in Irvine are due to reset over the next 3 years as very little of it was subprime. If you put the default chart together with the reset chart, it would suggest that the new wave of defaults would be the tapering off of subprime and an increase in other ARMs–a problem being exacerbated by a bad economy and high unemployment. Is there any evidence that the new spike of defaults is due to mid-
to high-end properties starting to default? On the map of Irvine below, the green dots with a “P” on them are “preforeclosures” otherwise known as Notices of Default.

There are always more Notices of Default (“P”) than there are Notices of Trustee Sales (“A”) because some defaults are cured through payment or modification, and the foreclosure process is avoided; however, the ratio is currently quite high due to the spike in Notices of Default. There are currently 72 bank-owned properties, 196 scheduled for auction, and 416 in preforeclosure.

According to our inventory tracker, there are about 675 homes for sale in Irvine. According to Foreclosure Radar, there are 684 properties in some stage of the foreclosure process. That means there are more homes in the process than there currently are for sale in the market. Several of the distressed properties are already listed, so there is some double counting (most of these properties are not currently on the MLS), but a large number of houses in Irvine are going to be hitting the market, and they will be sold.

So which neighborhoods are showing the most stress right now? Let’s take a tour of Irvine and see…

I have already profiled many Northpark homes along the 261 corridor. Many homes here have already gone through the foreclosure process and ended up in the hands of new owners. Many of the new owners from 2007 and 2008 may default themselves as they fall further underwater. This area may see multiple waves of foreclosures. One thing I found interesting was the relative lack of foreclosures in the part of Northwood northeast of Irvine Boulevard. With the exception of the Lakes condos and the condos on Timberwood, there has been little foreclosure activity here. It doesn’t appear there is much coming soon either.

It is no surprise that Northwood II and Woodbury are getting hammered. They are new communities and most of the homeowners are underwater. There is a small group of condos near Culver and the 5 that also is seeing a great deal of foreclosure activity. The Lakes condos appear to be letting up a bit on their foreclosures. Many properties there have already gone REO, and perhaps the worst is over for this complex. The rest of Northwood, College Park and El Camino Real all show moderate foreclosure activity, mostly at the low- to mid- price range.

I was surprised at two things when looking at this map: (1) the lack of foreclosures in Culverdale and Columbus Grove, and (2) the plethora of distressed properties outside the loop in Woodbridge. We have already seem many foreclosures in Culverdale and Columbus Grove, so this is either a lull in the storm, or the worst may be behind these neighborhoods. I suspect more foreclosures are to come in Columbus Grove because all the homeowners there overpaid.

The worst area in Irvine for distressed properties is Orangetree. If you sort the listings on Redfin for either Price or $/SF, the properties in Orangetree will all be at the top of the list. The entire neighborhood is a foreclosure war zone, and it will get worse.

The area of Oak Creek adjacent to the commercial center is dominated by three-story condos. This neighborhood is showing significant distress. Expect the distress to appear next in the SFD condos on Alevera Street, the 6-pack clusters in the Cobblestone community, and the condos across from Royal Oak Park. It is working its way up the housing ladder.

Quail hill is also getting clobbered as one would expect of the new neighborhoods. It is particularly bad in the grid-like area above the commercial center, and in the nicer homes around the loop near the elementary school. I cannot explain why this neighborhood in particular is so bad. There are some of the less expensive three-story condos, but the nicer properties on Canopy are a real surprise. Also note the auctions scheduled for the high-end stuff up the hill and over into Shady Canyon. Those are $1M+ properties going to auction.

It is no surprise–at least not to me–that Turtle Ridge is seeing many times the foreclosures of Turtle Rock. Many of these are new properties purchased at WTF prices by over-leveraged pretenders.

So there you have it; the new neighborhoods and the older low-end neighborhoods are seeing the worst of the foreclosure crisis–for now. This is where the REO will be this fall and winter. This doesn’t mean the other areas in Irvine will not be impacted. The bad economy, high unemployment and recasting ARMs will take their toll in other areas, but right now, the areas outlined above are where the action will be in the near term.

26 Longshore kitchen

Asking Price: $499,999

Income Requirement: $125,000

Downpayment Needed: $100,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $4,166

Purchase Price: $304,000

Purchase Date: 3/31/2000

Address: 26 Longshore #31, Irvine, CA 92614

Beds: 2
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 1,947
$/Sq. Ft.: $257
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Townhouse
Stories: 3+
Floor: 1
Year Built: 1983
Community: Woodbridge
County: Orange
MLS#: S566368
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 69 days

Fabulous luxury townhome has a FULL DEN that could be a third bedroom
and a FULL RETREAT off the master suite – it’s almost like four
bedrooms! Located in one of Irvine’s most sought-after neighborhoods,
this outstanding tri-level floorplan features soaring vaulted ceilings
+ modern design lines. Upgrades include wall treatments, plantation
shutters, recessed lighting & more! Open & bright chefs’
kitchen offers wrap-around countertops, built-in range and breakfast
nook. HUGE master suite boasts vaulted ceilings, romantic fireplace,
private bath and walk-in closet + 3rd level laundry – very convenient!
Comfortable entertainers’ patio + garden area. Association amenities
include pool & spa + dazzling grounds encompassing pond with water
feature as well as surrounding parks and greenbelts. Short walk to
award-winning schools. Easy access to fabulous shopping, entertainment
& restaurants. WOW!

it’s almost like four
bedrooms! If it were 4 bedrooms, nearly 2000 SF, on the water feature and under $500,000, I would be offering on it.

I am so excited over this new trend toward “chef’s kitchens.” Do you think the IHB had anything to do with losing the “gourmet kitchen” label?

This seller is showing true motivation. It appears they want to get out while there is still some bubble equity left. Soon it will be gone. If this place sells for its current asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the owners stand to make $166,000; although they did HELOC a little out, so they will net about $120,000.

IMO, this is a smart move. The wave is coming.

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We’re ready now
Catchin’ a wave to ride on
Steady now
headin’ where we decide on
And I know that there’s something that’s just out of sight
And I feel like we’re trying to do something right
Come on make it if we hold on tight
Hold on tight
We’re Ready! C’mon We’re ready
We’re ready

We’re Ready — Boston

HELOC Abuse Huntington Beach Style

Our popular tour to surrounding communities in search of HELOC abuse continues in Huntington Beach. So far we have seen $3,367,500 HELOC Abuse from Hollywood, $5,000,000 HELOC abuse from Laguna Beach and $7,000,000 HELOC abuse in Newport Coast. This week instead of going for one big abuser, I want to give you a more complete picture of how common this problem is. The following post contains a partial list of homes for sale over $1,000,000 where the owners owe more than they paid.

1120 Main St kitchen

Asking Price: $2,595,000

Address: 1120 Main Street, Huntington Beach, CA 92648

BTW, I have been quoted over at Huntington Homes concerning HELOC availability.

Ordinary Guys — Joe Walsh

And every Saturday we work in the yardJoe Walsh
Pick up the dog do
Hope that it’s hard (whaf whaf)
Take out the garbage and clean out the garage
My friend’s got a Chrysler
I’ve got a Dodge
We’re just ordinary average guys
Ordinary average guys

HELOC abuse is not an extraordinary behavior limited to a few rogues; ordinary people were doing it. HELOC abuse has become the personal financial management technique of the masses (see Our HELOC Economy and California Personal Finance: Ponzi Style). A tiny condo in Irvine extracted $100,000, and one home in Newport Coast managed to extract $7,000,000. I have documented hundreds of cases in Irvine alone. It is so common that even our current president, Barack Obama, is a HELOC abuser:

In April 1999, they purchased a Chicago condo and obtained a mortgage for $159,250. In May 1999, they took out
a line of credit for $20,750. Then, in 2002, they refinanced the condo
with a $210,000 mortgage, which means they took out about $50,000 in
equity. Finally, in 2004, they took out another line of credit for
$100,000 on top of the mortgage.

Tax returns for 2004 reveal $14,395 in mortgage deductions. If we
assume an effective interest rate of 6%, then they owed about $240,000
on a home they purchased for about $159,250.

This means they spent perhaps $80,000 beyond their income from 1999 to 2004.

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This week the IHB was mentioned in Huntington Homes: Surf City home-equity ‘abuse’: ‘So many you can’t believe it’. Since I represented in that story the number of HELOC abuse cases is unbelievable, I thought I would show you what I found. The following list are homes currently for sale in Huntington Beach with listing prices over $1,000,000. Each of these properties has debt in excess of its purchase price. That means that the owners have taken out any downpayment they made plus some extra:

16711 Edgewater Ln Huntington Beach,
CA
92649: Paid $1,100,000, Debt $1,700,000

1111 Pine St Huntington Beach,
CA
92648: Paid $275,000, Debt
$1,450,000 Option ARM

19616 Cloverwood Cir Huntington Beach,
CA
92648: Paid $1,006,500, Debt $2,000,000

17045 Edgewater Ln Huntington Beach,
CA
92649: Paid $1,000,000, Debt
$1,259,000

19452 Beckonridge Ln Huntington Beach,
CA
92648: Paid $859,000, Debt $1,455,000

6601 Silent Harbor Dr Huntington Beach,
CA
92648: Paid $1,056,000, Debt $
1,511,000

6576 Silent Harbor Dr Huntington Beach,
CA
92648: Paid $1,590,000, Debt $1,919,370

220 8th St Huntington Beach,
CA
92648: Paid
$230,000, Debt $1,409,000

19622 Larchmont Cir Huntington Beach,
CA
92648: Paid
$633,500, Debt $1,000,000

16915 Edgewater Ln Huntington Beach,
CA
92649: Paid
$749,000, Debt $1,820,000

6431 Morningside Dr Huntington Beach,
CA
92648: Paid $875,000, Debt $1,260,000

19144 Redford Ln Huntington Beach,
CA
92648: Paid
$777,500, Debt $1,150,000

6571 Beachview Dr Huntington Beach,
CA
92648: Paid
$1,259,000, Debt $1,391,000

416 11th St Huntington Beach,
CA
92648: Paid $430,000, Debt $700,000

16361 Ardsley Cir Huntington Beach,
CA
92649: Paid $635,000, Debt $1,000,000

6592 Morning Tide Dr Huntington Beach,
CA
92648: Paid
$530,000, Debt $804,000

5252 Chadwick Dr Huntington Beach,
CA
92649: Paid
$720,000, Debt $931,500

205 20th St Huntington Beach,
CA
92648: Paid
$415,000, Debt $750,000

3611 Rebel Cir Huntington Beach,
CA
92649: Paid
$659,000, Debt $840,000

Check out this short sale at 43% off:

4751 Los Patos Ave Huntington Beach,
CA
92649: Paid $1,750,000, Asking $1,000,000

Remember, this list does not contain those people who bought late and are now short selling–and there are many of those. To be on this list, each owner must owe more than they paid, they must have shown a pattern of withdrawals and refinances, and the debt must be significant compared to the value of the house. It is apparent that the people living in houses asking over $1,000,000 in Huntington Beach were hitting the housing ATM quite often.

I am not the only one who noticed this phenomenon. A recent study from economists at the University of Chicago (via Calculated Risk), estimates “that the average homeowner extracts 25 to 30 cents for every dollar increase in home equity.” They go on, “Homeowners in high house price appreciation areas experience a relative decline in default rates from 2002 to 2006 as they borrow heavily against their home equity, but experience very high default rates from 2006 to 2008.” If you want emperical evidence of what these guys are saying, just take a look at the list above.

1120 Main St kitchen

Asking Price: $2,595,000

Income Requirement: $648,750

Downpayment Needed: $519,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $21,625

Purchase Price: $950,000

Purchase Date: 12/17/2004

Address: 1120 Main Street, Huntington Beach, CA 92648

Beds: 4
Baths: 7
Sq. Ft.: 6,400
$/Sq. Ft.: $405
Lot Size: 8,900

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Mediterranean
Stories: 2
Year Built: 2007
Community: West Huntington Beach
County: Orange
MLS#: U7002273
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 714 days

Tuscany custom estate approx 6400 sq ft. No expense spared in one of
the most exquisite homes you will or have seen. Open floorplan through
out. 4 bedrooms, 5.5 baths, wine room, dry sauna, elevator,2 laundry
rooms, separate walnut paneled office, huge game room w/bar and wrap
around balcony. Gorgeous master suite w/dbl sided his/her 10′ shower
with multiple shower heads and body sprays, circular jetted tub that
fills from the ceiling and a huge walk-in closet that is every woman’s
dream. Other features inclute smart house technology and remote
descending chandelier. Intricately handcarved solid walnut cabinetry
t/o. 17′ island in kitchen/family room w/10′ glass doors that slide
into the walls for ultimate indoor/outdoor beach living. You will Not
find another home built like this with the quality of construction and
materials. This home is for your most discriminating buyer.

through
out? inclute?

So how did our featured property owners do it?

  • The property was purchased for $950,000 on 12/17/2004. The owners used a $617,500 first mortgage and a $332,500 downpayment.
  • On 2/4/2006 they got a construction loan for $1,935,000.
  • On 5/14/2007 they refinanced with a $2,562,000 first mortgage.
  • On 5/29/2007 they obtained a second mortgage for $350,000.
  • Total property debt is $2,912,000.
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal $977,000 (final refinances minus the construction loan).

If this property sells for its current asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss to the lender will be $472,700.

You have to figure that you and I as US taxpayers are going to eat that one. I imagine these owners enjoyed partying in their newly built house near the beach on your dime.

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And every Saturday we work in the yardJoe Walsh
Pick up the dog do
Hope that it’s hard (whaf whaf)
Take out the garbage and clean out the garage
My friend’s got a Chrysler
I’ve got a Dodge
We’re just ordinary average guys
Ordinary average guys

Ordinary Guys — Joe Walsh

I Gotta Wear Shades

Turtle Ridge is the only place in America where people actually believe their properties have appreciated 60% since late 2004. The sun is shining on Shady Lane.

Asking Price: $2,200,000

Address: 27 Shady Lane, Irvine, CA 92603

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My guest blogging at Irvine Homes continues with Irvine neighborhood profile: University Park.

The Future’s So Bright — Timbuk3

Well I’m heavenly blessed and worldly wise
I’m a peeping-tom techie with x-ray eyes
Things are going great, and they’re only getting better
I’m doing all right, getting good grades
The future’s so bright, I gotta wear shades

Years ago, the brightest minds of a generation were attracted to math, science and engineering. John F. Kennedy challenged the country to send a man to the moon and safely return him. More recently, a generation of the best and brightest was attracted to business and finance with the hope of sending asset prices to the moon and the stars. They succeeded. We had two astronomical financial bubbles one after the other.

Finance lost its way. The purpose of finance is to distribute investment capital among its competing ends to ensure the efficient use of scarce resources. Somewhere over the last 20 years, the financial elites convinced themselves they could actually create value as if finance were a manufacturing process. I remember reading an article written by that thoroughly discredited Wall Street talking head, Lawrence Kudlow, where he opined that the financial innovations in home mortgage finance created great societal value. This is nonsense.

When a builder constructs a house, he takes raw materials, assembles them in a manufacturing process, and the final product is worth more than the sum of its parts. That is adding value. If you take that finished house and inflate its value through some innovative loan program, the house is not changed. Where is the value added? The cheerleaders of financial innovation overlooked this obvious fact. Moving money around never adds value. It may enable manufacturers and service providers to add value, but finance by itself is incapable of adding value to anything.

Today’s featured property had plenty of “value” added to it by financial innovation before it was purchased in 2004. If this owner were fortunate, he could still sell at breakeven before pricing in Turtle Ridge completely collapses, but instead, he is trying to sell for about 60% more than he paid. WTF?

The kool aid in this neighborhood is truly astonishing. These people actually believe their neighborhood is immune, and they are entitled to these tremendous profits from appreciation just because they bought there. Amazing!

Asking Price: $2,200,000

Income Requirement: $550,000

Downpayment Needed: $440,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $18,333

Purchase Price: $1,325,500

Purchase Date: 9/24/2004

Address: 27 Shady Lane, Irvine, CA 92603

Beds: 4
Baths: 4.5
Sq. Ft.: 2,875
$/Sq. Ft.: $765
Lot Size: 5,557

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Detached, Single Family Residence
Style: Mediterranean
Stories: 2
View: City Lights
Year Built: 2004
Community: Turtle Ridge
County: Orange
MLS#: H09049542
Source: MRMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 5 days

WTF

Best View in Turtle Ridge! This great executive home in the Private
Gated community of Turtle Ridge is the best of Irvine living. 4 large
bedrooms all with their own PRIVATE FULL bath rooms. Upstairs is the
Master Suite w/ a balcony over looking all of Irvine, bath Jacuzzi w/
heating elements to keep your bath water HOT! (pretty cool!)The
upstairs also includes another full bedroom with a full private bath.
Laundry room is located the upstairs. Downstairs you will find a
Kitchens lovers dream! Granite counter tops, beautiful white cabinet w/
a breakfast knook area. French doors out to the patio for a relaxing
weekend breakfast outside on the patio! Formal dinning is located in
the Great room overlooking the view. Downstairs, two full bedrooms with
their own private full baths. A 1/2 bath near the Great room for dinner
guests. The Turtle Ridge community includes a private Adult pool area
& a family community area including a full workout gym, theater,
Olympic Size Pool, & community Park.

Best View in Turtle Ridge! Bullshit. There are many great views in Turtle Ridge; I doubt this is the best one.

PRIVATE FULL bath rooms. This must be very important to get the ALL CAPS emphasis.

w/ — why?

keep your bath water HOT! (pretty cool!) Perhaps, but the description is pretty lame.

Downstairs you will find a
Kitchens lovers dream! Even thought the grammar is confusing, I will give her credit for not calling it a gourmet kitchen…

  • This property was purchased on 9/24/2004 for $1,325,500. The owners used a $927,700 first mortgage and a $397,800 downpayment.
  • On 11/30/2005 they opened a HELOC for $250,000.
  • On 2/8/2006, there is a private-party loan recorded for $400,000.
  • On 10/3/2006 the took out a stand-alone second for $350,000. The previous loans were either paid off or subordinated.
  • On 2/4/2008 there is another private-party loan recorded for $171,000.
  • It is difficult to tell exactly how much they owe, but it looks like $1,448,700 ($927,700 + $350,000 + $171,000).

Are these owners distressed? I imagine they would tell you the loans and payoffs were part of their sophisticated financial management. Even with $1,448,700 in debt, they still believe they have $750,000 equity in their property based on their asking price. It is amazing how much stress than be removed with a huge does of kool aid and denial.

I hope you have enjoyed this week at the Irvine Housing Blog. Be sure
to come back tomorrow as I explore HELOC Abuse Huntington Beach Style, and
come back next week as we
continue chronicling ‘the seventh circle of real estate hell.’ Have a great weekend.

🙂

{book6}

I study nuclear science
I love my classes
I got a crazy teacher, he wears dark glasses
Things are going great, and they’re only getting better
I’m doing all right, getting good grades
The future’s so bright, I gotta wear shades,
I gotta wear shades

I’ve got a job waiting for my graduation
Fifty thou a year — buys a lot of beer
Things are going great, and they’re only getting better
I’m doing all right, getting good grades
The future’s so bright, I gotta wear shades
I gotta wear shades

Well I’m heavenly blessed and worldly wise
I’m a peeping-tom techie with x-ray eyes
Things are going great, and they’re only getting better
I’m doing all right, getting good grades
The future’s so bright, I gotta wear shades
I gotta wear shades

The Future’s So Bright — Timbuk3

They Didn't Spend It

In a competitive society like ours, there are winners and losers. The people who bought before the bubble, did not HELOC their home, and are selling in time to cash in that bubble equity are the winners. Let’s celebrate them today.

14811 Mayten Ave kitchen

Asking Price: $747,500

Address: 14811 Mayten Ave, Irvine, CA 92606

BTW, I am guest contributing to the Irvine Homes blog this week. Today’s post is a community profile on Woodbridge.

We Are The Champions — Queen

I’ve taken my bows
And my curtain calls –
You brought me fame and fortune and everything that goes with it
I thank you all –

There was a time, many years ago when success came through vision,
hard work and sacrifice. Achieving success was a slow process, and
there were no guarantees. It doesn’t work that way in California any
more.

Now, success comes through passive ownership of real
estate. It requires no vision, no work, and no sacrifice. In fact,
people are allowed to immediately enjoy the fruits of their lack of
labor through mortgage equity withdrawal. They do not need to slowly
accumulate wealth when they can quickly live off the converted income
from their brilliant asset purchase. The old measure of success was
asset accumulation, whereas the new measure of success is resource
consumption. It is important to drive the right car, carry the right
handbag, eat in the right restaurants, and of course, live in the right
neighborhood. People should be surrounded by the other people who are as brilliant and successful as they are.

The real champions of conspicuous consumption and pretentious consumerism are suffering right now. Many have already lost their homes, and the rest will soon enough. This recession we are all enduring was caused by the banks lending people insane amounts of money and losing it. They lost this money to the pretenders I profile with HELOC abuse stories almost daily. It is hard to feel too sorry for the pretenders; after all, they would be the first to tell you how they are entitled to their lifestyles, and they are superior to you because of it.

Today’s featured property is different; the owners represent success
from a bygone era. They allowed their equity to accumulate, they paid
down their mortgage, and now they have an opportunity to cash out and
enjoy a well-funded retirement. These owners are among the champions of Irvine. When a knife catcher comes along and cashes them out, they will pocket about $700,000. They are winners.

Our bubble economy and culture favors speculators and gamblers. There was a time when you could invest in reliable cashflow investments at reasonable prices and make relatively secure investment returns. A bad investment might not earn you the return you hoped, but they didn’t have the potential to cause catastrophic losses like we are witnessing during the housing bubble. Once the Wall Street market mavens realized they could fleece the unsuspecting masses through asset price volatility, the days of cashflow investing were over.

Despite this change in investor psychology, there are still people who lived by the rules of yesterday. Saving money and living frugally went out of style years ago, but those who clung to their old values still have cash and equity. If they move quickly they still have time to make a few extra bucks off the adherents to the speculative mindset being summarily crushed in our post-Ponzi Scheme world.

So please, any knife catchers out there, go buy this property and let your mistake make their success complete. They deserve it.

14811 Mayten Ave kitchen

Asking Price: $747,500

Income Requirement: $186,875

Downpayment Needed: $149,500

Monthly Equity Burn: $6,229

Purchase Price: $45,000

Purchase Date: 12/19/1973

Address: 14811 Mayten Ave, Irvine, CA 92606

Beds: 5
Baths: 4
Sq. Ft.: 2,318
$/Sq. Ft.: $322
Lot Size: 5,000

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Contemporary
Stories: 2
Year Built: 1973
Community: Walnut
County: Orange
MLS#: S572958
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 7 days

WOW! LOCATION! LOCATION! LOCATION! Steps to park and school. Pride of
Ownership here! Home totally remodeled throughout – Tile Floors, Crown
Moulding, Recessed Lighting, Custom Staircase, Granite Counters and
Backsplash in Kitchen and all Bathrooms. Kitchen has also been
expanded, with custom cabinets, under-cabinet lighting and Stainless
Steel Appliances including Bosch Dishwasher and Bosch Stove. Two Master
Suites (one with a Jacuzzi Tub). All bathrooms have been remodeled, one
with Safety Handrails, one with Closet. Ceiling Fans and Plantation
Shutters in most Rooms. Dining Room with additional window, and bead
board trim. Incredible Outdoor Living Center in Backyard, with Fruit
Trees, and Beautiful Gated Front Porch Area both with extensive
brickwork. Wrought Iron Balcony Railings. Expanded Driveway. You must
see to appreciate all that this Home has to offer. Come see for
yourself!!

WOW! LOCATION! LOCATION! LOCATION! These sellers deserve better than this kind of meaningless realtorspeak.

This property was purchased for $45,000 on 12/19/1973. The owners long ago paid off their mortgage. On 3/9/2006 they did take out a $45,000 mortgage, but it is obvious from the photos that the property was completely updated. I imagine that every penny of this money went into the update. If this property sells for its current asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total profit on the sale will be $657,650. I hope they get it.

I see so few properties for sale where the owners were responsible with their debts. There are probably many more out there, but since they are not in distress and have no desire to sell, I don’t see them; however, if it is for sale today, even the organic sellers have generally doubled their mortgages and they are in distress.

To today’s featured property owners: I salute you.

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I’ve paid my dues –
Time after time –
I’ve done my sentence
But committed no crime –
And bad mistakes
I’ve made a few
I’ve had my share of sand kicked in my face –
But I’ve come through

We are the champions – my friends
And we’ll keep on fighting – till the end –
We are the champions –
We are the champions
No time for losers
‘Cause we are the champions – of the world –

I’ve taken my bows
And my curtain calls –
You brought me fame and fortuen and everything that goes with it
I thank you all –

We Are The Champions — Queen