Monthly Archives: March 2009

Won't Get Fooled Again

Do you think the lenders and investors are stupid enough to give Californians several hundred billion dollars without getting paid back? I bet they won’t get fooled again.

Today’s featured property is another HELOC abuser that hopes she has some equity left.

4292 Manzanita kitchen

Asking Price: $599,000

Address: 4292 Manzanita, Irvine, CA 92604

{book5}

Won’t Get Fooled Again — The Who

Just like yesterday
Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
We don’t get fooled again
Don’t get fooled again
No, no!

Will the lenders inflate another bubble? I have no doubt whatsoever that California homebuyers will work to inflate a bubble. The rewards of the last one were too great for too many people. Once prices start going up again, kool aid intoxication will take over. However, for prices to go up again, lenders have to provide credit; buyers blow bubbles, but lenders provide the air.

When I was studying real estate economics, it was just after the Savings and Loan disaster was unwinding. Many of the case studies in my classes revolved around what happened and why. There were two things I took away from those classes that apply to today: 1. Have cash in the aftermath of a financial catastrophe. 2. Unregulated lending that is insured by the government leads to wild risk taking and massive taxpayer losses.

After the Savings and Loan disaster, I never thought I would see reckless lender behavior again in my lifetime. But in fact, I did see the same behavior in The Great Housing Bubble. Lenders made these same mistakes in the late 1980s, and they learned nothing. The fact that lenders did this again is ominous. I can no longer say with any confidence that we will not see the lenders lose their minds again.

I have made no secret of my conversion from a free-market capitalist to a believer in regulated markets. I accepted the deregulation nonsense of the last 25 years. The Ponzi Scheme worked, or so I thought. It is apparent to everyone now that a lack of oversight and regulation lead to an unprecedented government bailout. Do you realize that we have already given more to AIG than we spent on the entire S&L fiasco?

If we put a stern regulatory framework in place within a bureaucracy
insulated from political pressure (don’t ask me how to do that), we may
be able to keep our lenders on a leash and prevent another financial
bubble. Absent regulatory reform, we will still have 20-25 years before lenders lose their minds again. Institutional memory is short, but the losses were so large that sane people will remember the perils and avoid this for a while. In either case, the typical knife catcher is betting we will re-inflate the bubble next year or perhaps the year after. I don’t know much, but I am quite certain that isn’t going to happen.

4292 Manzanita kitchen

Asking Price: $599,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $149,750

Downpayment Needed: $199,800

Monthly Equity Burn: $4,991

Purchase Price: $252,000

Purchase Date: 5/31/1996

Address: 4292 Manzanita, Irvine, CA 92604

Beds: 4
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 2,100
$/Sq. Ft.: $285
Lot Size: 5,623

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Other
Year Built: 1974
Stories: 2
Area: El Camino Real
County: Orange
MLS#: P679609
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 2 days

This lovely Greeen Tree neighborhood home has been improved by adding a
master bedroom with retreat upstairs and 4th bedroom. Close to
elementary school and quartly association dues include membership to
the swim club. Fenced yard for entertaining and eat-in kitchen, living
room and family room with two bedrooms and two bathrooms downstairs.

Greeen? quartly?

I love the clutter in this house. I bet they sit on the garbage can under the kitchen island by mistake occasionally.

  • This property was purchased on 5/31/1996 for $252,000. The owner used a $200,000 first mortgage and a $52,000 downpayment.
  • On 5/5/1999 she refinanced with a $225,000 first mortgage.
  • On 6/31/2001 she refinanced with a $255,000 first mortgage.
  • On 8/21/2002 she refinanced with a $258,000 first mortgage.
  • On 9/3/2004 she opened a HELOC for $100,000.
  • On 9/27/2006 she refinanced with an Option ARM for $495,300.
  • Total mortgage debt is $495,300 plus negative amortization.
  • Total morgage equity withdrawal is $295,300 including her downpayment.

Remember yesterday I was talking about the typical pattern: people take out spending money over time, and at the end, they want to take another pile of cash with them? This woman took out $295,300 over a 10-year period. Spare me the chronic illness crap; she spent it. Some of it might have gone into the upstairs improvements, but based on the pattern of withdrawals, that is not where most of it went.

Depending on the self-discipline of the owner, some took out a little, and some took out a lot; in any case, most took out something. This behavior explains much of the reason kool aid intoxication is so strong.

I’ll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I’ll get all my papers and smile at the sky
For I know that the hypnotized never lie

I hope you have enjoyed this week at the Irvine Housing Blog. Come back next week as we
continue chronicling ‘the seventh circle of real estate hell.’ Have a great weekend.

🙂

{book6}

I’ll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I’ll get all my papers and smile at the sky
For I know that the hypnotized never lie

Do ya?

I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
We don’t get fooled again
Don’t get fooled again
No, no!

Won’t Get Fooled Again — The Who

Ain't That Just the Way

Kool aid intoxication is very strong because homeowners were so richly rewarded during the bubble. Will the crash cause mass detoxification?

Today’s featured property is a WTF award winner in Quail Hill–$444/SF is so 2006.

132 Treehouse inside

Asking Price: $1,375,000

Address: 132 Treehouse, Irvine, CA 92603

Ain’t That Just the Way — Lutricia McNeal

WTF

Ain’t that just the way that life goes
Down, down, down, down
Movin’ way too fast or much too slow
Gettin’ up, gettin’ high, gettin’ down
Gettin’ no, no, nowhere

I always find it interesting when I have a conversation about the real estate market with people who have no idea what my hobby is. I get to hear their untainted opinion about what is going on. Sometimes I get the “Joe Six-pack” version, but sometimes I hear the opinions of professionals with access to data I do not have.

I recently had a conversation with a title officer from a major title company. Title officers are the guys who handle real estate closings. There is no profession that has greater insight into the process. This gentleman told me the following:

Prices in Orange County are going to crash very hard due to the adjustable rate mortgages. Since the vast majority of properties in OC were not conforming loans, they are not going to be eligible for the government’s loan modification program. When these borrowers need to refinance when their loans recast, they will not be able to, and most will end up in foreclosure. Even if these borrowers had enough equity to qualify, very few of them have the income. People added so much to their mortgage debt that they do not have the income to support it. Also, since many ARMs were being written up until the credit crunch in August of 2007, and these ARMs have 3. 5. 7 and 10 year terms, the foreclosure problem is going to be with use until 2017. Don’t expect any meaningful appreciation until then.

As he was telling me this, I felt like I was reading from the IHB. When I asked him if he read blogs, he said he didn’t. Although, he did say he reads many closing documents.

{book1}

132 Treehouse inside

Asking Price: $1,375,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $343,750

Downpayment Needed: $275,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $11,458

Purchase Price: $901,500

Purchase Date: 11/24/2003

Address: 132 Treehouse, Irvine, CA 92603

Beds: 4
Baths: 5
Sq. Ft.: 3,100
$/Sq. Ft.: $444
Lot Size: 5,521

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Tuscan
Year Built: 2004
Stories: 2
View: City Lights
Area: Quail Hill
County: Orange
MLS#: S567348
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 2 days

This is a stunning home waiting for that picky buyer who wants it all.
Check out the photos. A dream kitchen with dark espresso cabinets and
Seafoam Green Granite Counters. Custom Beams in the liivingroom and
dining room. Travertine flooring downstairs. Walk in butlers pantry.
Main floor bedroom and bath. Loft upstairs great for an office or
childrens play area. Beautiful stair rails. Huge master suite and
oversized master bath. Large secondary bedrooms. Arched raised panel
doors throughout. Check out the landscaping. Mature olive trees
surround the property. Stone fireplace and a custom chefs BBQ. Great
private location.

When I first perused this description, I read “for that prick buyer who wants it all.” Only after I reread it did I see what was actually written.

A dream kitchen with dark espresso cabinets and
Seafoam Green Granite Counters. Are the color descriptors really necessary? dark espresso? Seafoam Green? This screams of pretentious poppycock (isn’t poppycock a cool word?)

liivingroom?

Today’s featured property interested me not only because it is
ridiculously priced but because it reveals how kool aid pickles the
brains of people in our real estate market.

  • This property was purchased on 11/24/2003 for $901,500. The owners used a $650,000 first mortgage, a $161,000 second mortgage, and a $90,500 downpayment.
  • On 1/10/2005 they opened a HELOC for $175,000.
  • On 8/29/2006 they refinanced with a $837,500 first mortgage.

These people were not major HELOC abusers, but they did take out $26,500 for whatever. They did not pay down their mortgage while occupying this house.

Now these people want the $473,500 that is their due for owning Irvine real estate for five years. WTF? At least they are waiting until they sell the property to spend that free bubble money.

This is typical of a pattern I see in how Irvine homeowners manage their finances. They buy a house, extract some equity for spending money as prices wildly appreciate, and then they want to take a big pile of money with them when they leave. Many of the houses I profile show this behavior in previous owners who were lucky enough to sell out in 2005 or 2006. Of course, many of those fortunate sellers “doubled down” on their next house and lost it all. Why wouldn’t they? The free money was going to keep coming in forever, right?

The people who behaved that way are not bad people. Many of the routine security measures we encounter in our daily lives are there to keep the honest person honest. If you make it ridiculously easy for people to steal, they will. The lenders made it too easy to spend too much money. Although we chastise these people for their lack of self control, the lenders do bear some responsibility for the problem. Both parties are suffering; people are losing their homes, and our banking system is insolvent.

WTF

Despite the fact that house prices are
crashing, most California residents remember how much free money came
through home ownership. Most of these people do not realize that the
rules have changed. After losing a trillion dollars, lenders are not
going to hand out HELOCs
like ecstasy at a rave. Until it becomes common knowledge that the free
money associated with home ownership is not going to be there, the
psychology of kool aid will keep an addicted population high on real
estate. We will not bottom until this kool aid is purged from our
system.

I write much about the change in psychology associated with a bust, but it has been happening slower here in Irvine than it has in other communities. As you can see from today’s post, the kool aid is very strong. I was thinking about how difficult it is to reason with the kool aid intoxicated, and the following video came to mind. Enjoy.

{book6}

Now he’s in another place and I can’t reach him
And I feel as though I’m guilty of a crime
I took all he had to give and gave him nothin’
And all it would have taken was some time

Ain’t that just the way that life goes
Down, down, down, down
Movin’ way too fast or much too slow
Gettin’ up, gettin’ high, gettin’ down
Gettin’ no, no, nowhere
But not gettin’ into someone I should know

Gettin’ up, gettin’ high, gettin’ down
Gettin’ no, no, nowhere
Gettin’ up, gettin’ high, gettin’ down
Gettin’ no, no, nowhere
Gettin’ up, gettin’ high, gettin’ down
Gettin’ no, no, nowhere
Gettin’ up, gettin’ high, gettin’ down
Gettin’ no, no, nowhere

Ain’t That Just the Way — Lutricia McNeal

Low-End Capitulation 2

Sorry for the duplicate post, but our comments crashed on the first one…

Capitulation is a fancy word for giving up. The price declines at
the low end are leaving owners hopeless, so homedebtors and
specuvestors are simply giving up.

Today’s featured property was just profiled here on the IHB back in January. We are revisiting today because recent price reductions make it the largest percentage discount I have seen to date: 48.6%.

2206 Apricot Dr Kitchen

Asking Price: $199,900

Address: 2206 Apricot Dr #206, Irvine, CA 92618

{book3}

Little Things Give You Away — Linkin Park

And now there will be no mistaking
The levees are breaking

Hope decays
Generations disappear

Washed away
As a nation simply stares

It will be interesting to see what comes from our pop music during
the later stages of this recession/depression. Will we hear sounds of
despair? Will we fully retreat into mindlessly happy denial? Hardship
inspires great art. I hope we see some.

We talk about the pointlessness of following short sales, but there is
still much to learn from them. Why are we seeing price reductions? This
property may not have received bids at higher price points, so
the lender may have asked the owner to lower the price until offers
come in. Loss mitigation procedures at the lenders are in a state of
flux similar to market pricing. The lenders
are unpredictable. Perhaps they will start accepting short sales to
avoid the foreclosure process. Who knows?

This property is probably near rental parity, even with the $310 HOA
dues. Assuming someone wants to live in this place, it may be a good
deal. For an investor, it is still too high.

Maybe this price reduction means nothing. Maybe it is a sign that
banks are getting more serious about clearing out their REO inventory.
It is the little things that give them away.

{book5}

2206 Apricot Dr Kitchen

Asking Price: $199,900IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $49,975

Downpayment Needed: $39,980

Monthly Equity Burn: $1,666

Purchase Price: $389,000

Purchase Date: 6/21/2006

Address: 2206 Apricot Dr #206, Irvine, CA 92618

Beds: 2
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 910
$/Sq. Ft.: $220
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Contemporary/Modern
Year Built: 1979
Stories: 1
Floor: 1
View: Mountain, Pool
Area: Orangetree
County: Orange
MLS#: S559747
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 61 days

Single level condo on 2nd floor with elevator access. 2 Bedroom and 2
Bath condo with Patio/Balcony out Master and Dining Area. Open floor
plan. Fireplace in Living area. Close to shopping and Freeway. Secured
building. Elevator and intercom. Handicap access. HOA provides water,
gas, trash, maintenance, pool spa, lit tennis courts, basketball court
and tot lot.

This property was purchased at the peak on 6/21/2006. The owner used a $311,200 first mortgage, a $77,800 second
mortgage, and a $0 downpayment. If this property sells for its asking
price, the lender stands to lose $201,094 after a 6% commission.

We are on the cusp of seeing properties transact at 50% off peak pricing here in Irvine. Armageddon is upon us.

Here is a video for those who want to discuss decorating.

{book4}

Water grey
Through the windows, up the stairs

Chilling rain
Like an ocean everywhere

Don’t want to reach for me do you
I mean nothing to you
The little things give you away

And now there will be no mistaking
The levees are breaking

All you’ve ever wanted
Was someone to truly look up to you

And six feet under water
I
Do

Hope decays
Generations disappear

Washed away
As a nation simply stares

Little Things Give You Away — Linkin Park

Low-End Capitulation

Capitulation is a fancy word for giving up. The price declines at the low end are leaving owners hopeless, so homedebtors and specuvestors are simply giving up.

Today’s featured property was just profiled here on the IHB back in January. We are revisiting today because recent price reductions make it the largest percentage discount I have seen to date: 48.6%.

2206 Apricot Dr Kitchen

Asking Price: $199,900

Address: 2206 Apricot Dr #206, Irvine, CA 92618

{book3}

Little Things Give You Away — Linkin Park

And now there will be no mistaking
The levees are breaking

Hope decays
Generations disappear

Washed away
As a nation simply stares

It will be interesting to see what comes from our pop music during the later stages of this recession/depression. Will we hear sounds of despair? Will we fully retreat into mindlessly happy denial? Hardship inspires great art. I hope we see some.

We talk about the pointlessness of following short sales, but there is
still much to learn from them. Why are we seeing price reductions? This
property may not have received bids at higher price points, so
the lender may have asked the owner to lower the price until offers
come in. Loss mitigation procedures at the lenders are in a state of
flux similar to market pricing. The lenders
are unpredictable. Perhaps they will start accepting short sales to
avoid the foreclosure process. Who knows?

This property is probably near rental parity, even with the $310 HOA dues. Assuming someone wants to live in this place, it may be a good deal. For an investor, it is still too high.

Maybe this price reduction means nothing. Maybe it is a sign that banks are getting more serious about clearing out their REO inventory. It is the little things that give them away.

{book5}

2206 Apricot Dr Kitchen

Asking Price: $199,900IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $49,975

Downpayment Needed: $39,980

Monthly Equity Burn: $1,666

Purchase Price: $389,000

Purchase Date: 6/21/2006

Address: 2206 Apricot Dr #206, Irvine, CA 92618

Beds: 2
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 910
$/Sq. Ft.: $220
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Contemporary/Modern
Year Built: 1979
Stories: 1
Floor: 1
View: Mountain, Pool
Area: Orangetree
County: Orange
MLS#: S559747
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 61 days

Single level condo on 2nd floor with elevator access. 2 Bedroom and 2
Bath condo with Patio/Balcony out Master and Dining Area. Open floor
plan. Fireplace in Living area. Close to shopping and Freeway. Secured
building. Elevator and intercom. Handicap access. HOA provides water,
gas, trash, maintenance, pool spa, lit tennis courts, basketball court
and tot lot.

This property was purchased at the peak on 6/21/2006. The owner used a $311,200 first mortgage, a $77,800 second
mortgage, and a $0 downpayment. If this property sells for its asking
price, the lender stands to lose $201,094 after a 6% commission.

We are on the cusp of seeing properties transact at 50% off peak pricing here in Irvine. Armageddon is upon us.

Here is a video for those who want to discuss decorating.

{book4}

Water grey
Through the windows, up the stairs

Chilling rain
Like an ocean everywhere

Don’t want to reach for me do you
I mean nothing to you
The little things give you away

And now there will be no mistaking
The levees are breaking

All you’ve ever wanted
Was someone to truly look up to you

And six feet under water
I
Do

Hope decays
Generations disappear

Washed away
As a nation simply stares

Little Things Give You Away — Linkin Park

What a Bargain

The schadenfruede we feel for knife catchers is different than the feelings we have toward rally buyers. These are the people keeping prices elevated and unaffordable, so compassion for their losses is in short supply.

As you might have guessed, today’s property is a failed knife catcher. I first profiled this property in 2007.

Meadowgrass Kitchen

Asking Price: $600,000

Address: 28 Meadowgrass, Irvine, CA 92604

The Great Housing Bubble was recently reviewed by Inman News, a major online real estate news outlet. The PDF is here (InmanNewsGreatHousingBubbleBookReview.pdf)

I want to thank Patrick Duffy of The Housing Chronicles Blog for the review.

Boo Hoo — KT Tunstall

If I was a second too late
Or a moment too soon
Or an hour too long
Tell me baby would you wait a bit longer?
I wonder if you would
Or would you be long gone?

That could be the knife catcher song…

Schadenfreude comes in two flavors: there are the people who bought while prices were rallying because prices were rallying, and then there are the knife catchers who bought while prices were falling because they were getting a bargain. Today’s featured property is of the latter variety.

Why is there schadenfreude in watching knife catchers? There are a number of reasons:

  1. Knife catchers drank the kool-aid. They bought because they worried about being priced out forever, and they believed prices will rise again after they purchased.
  2. There were voices telling them not to buy (like the IHB). The sages forecasting a crash were dispensing data and analysis while prophets foreseeing a rally were reading rune stones. Divination based on data is more dependable.
  3. Knife catchers believed they could pick a bottom, yet they know nothing about what determines real estate prices.
  4. Knife catchers invested their own capital in their ignorance. Lenders were not giving out 100% financing to knife catchers.

For these reasons and others you might think of, schadenfreude has a different flavor after the market peak. You can expect to get a bigger taste as prices keep falling.

{book6}

Meadowgrass Kitchen

Asking Price: $600,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $150,000

Downpayment Needed: $120,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $5,000

Purchase Price: $710,000

Purchase Date: 8/17/2007

Address: 28 Meadowgrass, Irvine, CA 92604

Beds: 3
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 1,545
$/Sq. Ft.: $388
Lot Size: 4,512

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Cape Cod
Year Built: 1977
Stories: 1
Area: Woodbridge
County: Orange
MLS#: S567115
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 2 days

3 Bedroom/2 Bathroom, 1545 Sqft in a 4512 Lot Size Detached Single
Family Residence in a Nice Nighborhood in Woodbridge in Irvine.

With so few words, you would think they would all be spelled correctly. Nope… Nighborhood.

The photos in this profile are from the listing back in 2007. They are bright and lively and present the property well. Compare those to the current photographs.

28 Meadowgrass 1 28 Meadowgrass 2

Do you think this change in photography tells you something about the state-of-mind of the knife catcher or the realtor. I do.

What is particularly sad (or embarrassing depending on you
point-of-view) is how overpriced this property still is. Even with the
discount, at $388/SF, this property has a long way to fall.

Sales price history:

Date Event Price
Mar 13, 2009 Listed $600,000
Jul 17, 2007 Sold $710,000
Apr 29, 2005 Sold $730,000
Apr 25, 1991 Sold $269,000

This property was purchased from a long-term owner by our first bubble crash loser on 4/29/2005 for $730,000. The property was purchased by today’s knife catcher for $710,000 on 7/17/2007 for $710,000. What a bargain. They got 3% discount on a property that is going to fall over 40%.

The current owners used a $568,000 first mortgage, a $71,000 HELOC, and a $71,000 downpayment. Fortunately for them, they must know a friendly appraiser because a month later on 8/17/2007, they were able to obtain a HELOC for $179,000. This got back their downpayment, paid off the first HELOC, and allowed them to cash out $37,000. Does that smell fishy to you?

If this appraisal represents the peak value of $747,000, this property has declined $147,000 in value over the last 21 months. That is an monthly equity burn of $7,000. The lender is going to absorb that loss, plus they are not getting paid by the underwater borrowers, so the lender is going to lose plenty.

If this property sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss to the lender will be $183,000.

{book7}

If I was a second too late
Or a moment too soon
Or an hour too long
Tell me baby would you wait a bit longer?
I wonder if you would
Or would you be long gone?
Would you be alone?
Would you be alone?

Oh and in the light of day it feels right
Comfortable to the bone, from head to toe
But come the evening when the shadows fall
Well I call your name, but it’s not the same
As having you here
As having you here
As knowing you’re near
As feeling you there
As knowing you care
As whispering in your ear
As my hand through your hair
As knowing you’re there

Oh and in the light of day it feels right
Comfortable to the bone, from head to toe
But come the evening when the shadows fall
Well I call your name, but it’s not the same
As having you here

Mmm…
It’s not the same
Mmm…

Boo Hoo — KT Tunstall