Monthly Archives: February 2008

WOT 2-23-2008

There was a discussion this week over at Calculated Risk on the Bailout Plan du jour (BTW, has anyone else noticed the pattern of periodically introducing a bailout plan that fails? Denial reinforcement?) I was writing about this possibility last April in the post How Homedebtors Could Avoid Foreclosure. Below the Calculated Risk post is a repost of that April writing.

OTS Plan: Negative Equity Certificates

This is certainly innovative:

The Office of Thrift Supervision is preparing a plan to help mortgage borrowers who owe more than their homes are worth and to discourage them from abandoning those properties, agency officials said yesterday.

Under the regulatory agency’s proposal, still in its early stages, these borrowers would refinance into government-insured loans that cover the current value of their homes. The refinancing would pay part of what’s owed to the original lender. For the remainder, the lender would get what the plan’s backers call a “negative equity certificate.” The lender could redeem the certificate if the home is eventually sold at a higher price. . . .

The proposal was briefly mentioned at a regular quarterly news briefing. More details should emerge over coming weeks, Petrasic said. The plan has been extensively analyzed internally and is now being discussed with policymakers and industry officials, he said.

The plan would separate a troubled mortgage into two parts. The first would cover the current fair-market value of the home and would be refinanced by the Federal Housing Administration. The remainder would be issued to the original lender as a certificate.

If the borrower eventually sells the home, the FHA mortgage would be paid off first. Remaining cash would be applied to paying off the value of that certificate. Anything left over would go to the borrower.

If there’s not enough profit to pay off the certificate, the original lender would take a loss, which makes this proposal a gamble. However, the plan anticipates that there would be a market where these certificates are traded. That means the lenders could sell them immediately to offset some of the loss or hold them with the hope that they will appreciate, said Jaret Seiberg, an analyst at Stanford Policy Research.

The certificates would likely trade for small amounts, maybe $2 for every $100 in home value, and the amounts would increase as the housing market strengthens, Seiberg said.

But there are still many political and logistical hurdles.

This plan has not been vetted by the White House, Congress or other policymakers. The FHA declined to comment on the specifics except to say it is “regularly looking at new ideas and actively exploring ways to expand the eligible pool of creditworthy borrowers FHA can serve.”

Whether investors will embrace the idea depends on many details that aren’t resolved, Seiberg said. But it could be a way for lenders to cut their losses. “It beats foreclosure,” Seiberg said. “These certificates enable [investors] to share in the upside if the housing market recovers.”

For borrowers, avoiding foreclosure means they get to keep their homes and reduce damage to their credit.

“What we tried to do is figure out the best way to create market incentives for all the parties involved,” Petrasic said.

That’s a real twist on the idea of taking back a lien on a property to recapture any future equity. Apparently, only the FHA mortgage would be a lien against the property, with the certificate being an obligation of FHA? It certainly surprises me that the OTS feels confident it can work out the legal kinks with that quickly enough to make a difference.

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How Homedebtors Could Avoid Foreclosure

There was a recent article posted on MSN about mortgage companies working with FB’s to save their homes from foreclosure. This particular article is most likely part of a public relations campaign from the lending industry to show they are working on the problem. They are bracing themselves for the inevitable congressional hearings which will happen next year. There is nothing quite like an election year crisis to bring out congressional grandstanding by our leading politicians. But I digress… the MSN article got me thinking about what really could be done about the foreclosure problem.

I have written in several posts about the serious foreclosure problem looming as several trillion dollars of mortgages reset to higher payments over the next 5 years. There is no way to effectively restructure payments when a borrower cannot even afford to pay the interest on the debt. Lenders cannot lower interest rates to near zero because then they will lose money on the loan. Any borrower who thinks the lender is actually going to forgive the debt and allow them to keep their home is really living in a fantasy world (I would wager many FBs believe this). Lenders will not take a loss on a property loan and allow borrowers to keep the home: it’s as simple as that.

As much as it pains me to write this, there is a short to medium term solution to the foreclosure problem: convert part of the mortgage to a zero coupon bond. For those of you not steeped in finance, a zero coupon bond is a bond which does not make periodic interest payments. Think of it a zero amortization loan. You don’t pay either the interest or the principal, and both accumulate for the life of the loan. The loan would be due upon the sale of the house.

Here is how it would work for our typical homedebtor: Assume our financial genius utilized 100% financing and took out a $500,000 interest-only mortgage with a 2% teaser rate that is due to adjust to 6%. Let’s further assume his real income (not what he reported on his liar loan) could support a $1,500 payment on a $250,000 conventional 30-year mortgage at 6%. The bank could convert $250,000 to a conventional mortgage, and convert the other $250,000 to a zero coupon bond at 6% due on sale. The homedebtor can now make their payment, and they get to keep their house. But here is the catch: when they sell their house, they will owe the bank a lot of money. If they sell the house in 20 years, they will owe $800,000 on the zero coupon bond note. In other words, all the equity gain on the value of the home will go to the bank.

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This would solve a multitude of problems: First, it would provide a mechanism whereby people who were victims of predatory lending could keep their homes. This would make the homedebtor happy, and it would get government regulators out of the bank’s business. Second, it would make the banks more money in the long run because they are still making their interest profit even if they don’t see it until the homedebtor sells the home (many may not be aware of it, but lenders book income on the increase in principal on a negative amortization loan). Third, since foreclosures would be the primary mechanism facilitating the crash, it would keep home prices from crashing by reducing the number of foreclosures.

Sounds like a panacea, doesn’t it? There are some problems.Its a Wonderful Life

The first problem will become apparent when people start selling their houses. People are greedy. They won’t want to give the bank all their equity when they sell. They will conveniently forget the debt relief and avoiding foreclosure and all the problems they had earlier. All they will see is that they sold the house for a lot more than they paid for it, and they did not make any money. And what happens when the appreciation does not match the term of the note? Do they do a short-sale 20 years down the line? This will cause a huge uproar and more calls for congressional intervention. In other words, for everyone involved the day of reckoning is merely delayed, not avoided.

Second, it does nothing for the affordability problem. If prices do not crash, a great many people really will be priced out forever. To solve this problem, banks will make zero coupon bonds available to everyone, and eventually everyone will have them. Think about where we will be then: we will be a society of homedebtors who have collectively agreed to give all our equity to the bank for the pride of ownership. Starts to sound a bit like Pottersville from It’s a Wonderful Life. Is that the way we all want to live?

Sub Prime Move Up Chain

Third, The zero coupon bond solution would effectively eliminate the move-up market because you won’t have any equity to take with you from house to house. Unless you save money or get a big raise so you can afford a larger payment, you can’t buy a more expensive home. This would result in a dramatic flattening of prices. In other words, the low end would be supported at inflated levels while the high end would stagnate or decline.

Fourth, Based on the problems above, it will be difficult to find a new equilibrium in prices. How would people figure out how much anything is worth? How would all price ranges be supported equally? Small changes in the interest rate on the zero coupon bond can make the difference between hundreds of thousands of dollars at the time of sale, particularly on a long-term hold. Does anyone think this will turn out in favor of the borrower? I suspect we would see a lot of short-sales as the banks graciously agree to take all the gains and forgive the rest of the debt. This takes us back to our first problem with angry, greedy sellers.

Finally, I think this is only a short to medium term solution to the foreclosure problem. For as much as we are addicted to credit in this country, there is a point where people will say “enough is enough.” When a house fails to have any investment value, people will not be so excited about home ownership. People can blather on about pride of ownership all they want, but people want to make money on selling their houses. Inflated valuations are only supported by greed. If home ownership becomes less desirable, prices will end up falling back to their rental equivalent value because the demand will not be there. In the long run, we would end up with prices where they should be anyway, it would just be a much more prolonged and painful journey. Does anyone want to experience what the Japanese went through?Japanese Bubble

When faced with the prospect of more than a million foreclosures, some Wall Street genius (I am being facetious) is going to come up with a solution very similar to what I just presented. To be honest, zero coupon bond structures and other exotic financing terms are quite common in complex real estate deals like the ones I see on a daily basis in my line of work. Exotic loan terms are the exclusive purview of sophisticated investors who understand what they are doing. They are not intended for consumption by the general public. Given the profusion of interest-only, and negative amortization loans in the market today, is it any surprise we have such a big mess now?

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BTW, what do you think of this flyer that was sent to me?

Real Estate Flyer

This is a sign of things to come…

Should I Stay or Should I Go?

Darling you gotta let me know

Should I stay or should I go?

If you say that you are mine

I’ll be here ’til the end of time

So you got to let me know

Should I stay or should I go?

Always tease tease tease

Should I Stay or Should I Go? — The Clash

This is the question every underwater, subprime borrower is asking right now. Most of these people just wanted a home, and if they could afford the payments, they would probably stay in them ’til the end of time. They were enticed with the teaser rate on their Option ARM, and if they can’t serial refinance (tease tease tease,) then they would like this teaser rate made permanent. Unfortunately, it is not going to happen.

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Remember the Adjustable Rate Mortgage Reset Schedule?

The gray lines making up the majority of these loans reseting in 2007 and 2008 are subprime. This is what is causing prices in areas like Santa Ana or the Inland Empire where subprime was concentrated to fall precipitously. The big price drop caused by the collapse of subprime will put many homeowners in a weakened position where they may be underwater or have a very high loan-to-value ratio. When the next wave of resets hits the market (the Alt-A and Prime crowd that makes up most of Irvine) prices will be lower because of all the subprime defaults. The Alt-A and prime borrowers in Irvine may face difficulty with refinancing because they will not have enough equity to fall within the tighter lending standards necessitated by the subprime collapse. The subprime fiasco may not hit Irvine directly, but it has created the conditions that will poison Irvine’s market when its toxic loans ripen in 2009 and 2010.

They say all real estate is local, but this isn’t true. All real estate markets within driving distance are linked together by commuters. If prices in Corona drop to the low $100,000s, prices in Irvine will certainly fall. There is a price differential that will entice people to fringe markets. This creates price drag on the primary markets as some potential buyers are siphoned off by the fringe markets. Eventually this effect will work its way to the most desirable markets on the coast. The collapse of the real estate market is like a land tsunami: it starts inland and makes it way overland to the coast leveling everything in its path. The markets in Coastal California will not be spared, particularly with as extremely overvalued as they currently are. If GRMs fall to 160 in Irvine, they will not stay at 400 in Corona Del Mar.

Today’s sellers have earned my admiration. Once they decided it was time to go, they stopped messing around and priced their home to move.

56 Calavera Front 56 Calavera Kitchen

Asking Price: $869,453IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $217,363

Downpayment Needed: $173,890

Monthly Equity Burn: $7,245

Purchase Price: $970,000

Purchase Date: 10/4/2004

Address: 56 Calavera, Irvine, CA 92606Rollback

Beds: 5
Baths: 3.5
Sq. Ft.: 2,400
$/Sq. Ft.: $362
Lot Size: 6,000 Sq. Ft.
Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Contemporary
Year Built: 1996
Stories: Two Levels
Area: Westpark
County: Orange
MLS#: S510396
Status: Active
On Redfin: 117 days

Unsold in 90+ days

Highly & professionally upgraded. Most desirable home in Westpark2. Granite counter tops, High grade wood flooring through out the house, Italian pavers in kitchen, Crown molding & 5inch base boards, Custom Paint, Tumbled Travertine back splash in kitchen, Built in cabinets & high grade flooring in garage, Stainless steel appliances w/ Refrigerator, Automatic fireplace remote igniter, rolling garage door, Home media center with speakers throughout house5th BR does not have closet (Den/Office).

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This house was orginally listed for the WTF price of $1,150,000 on Oct 24, 2007. It is not a big surprise it did not sell. What is surprising (and admirable) is the $300,000 price drop they made a few weeks ago. As was discussed in Selling for Less, a property needs to be listed for some period of time at a sales price which would result in sufficient funds to pay off the loan before a short sale would be approved. Do you think they arrived at an asking price of $869,453 by randomly picking numbers? It is probably the exact payoff figure for the loan on their property after commissions. In today’s market, this house is a good deal, but with no room to negotiate on price, it may not be good enough until it is eligible to become a short sale.

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That concludes another week at the Irvine Housing Blog. Come back next week as we continue chronicling ‘the seventh circle of real estate hell.’ Have a great weekend.

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Hung Upside Down

Look what’s happening to me,

I’m going blind, please help.

There I sat until three,

gettin’ further behind myself.

Bymyself.

Someday I will be free,

and there’ll be times, you just wait.

I will come to you, see,

what I’ll bring you when I get straight,

Oh it’s too late.

And I’m hung upside down.

And I’m hung upside down.

Hung upside down, said I’m

hung upside down, c’mon, c’mon.

Hung upside down.

Hung Upside Down — Buffalo Springfield

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This is the story of many homeowners now that the market has started its downward spiral — hung upside down. Trapped in a property they cannot sell and cannot afford, they count the days until their mortgage resets and they face foreclosure. It is a bit like death row when you think about it. You know your sentence, it has a feeling of dread and finality, and you know the date when judgment will be rendered. You have your false hopes for a government reprieve, but after a time you become resigned to your fate.

3 Carlina Front 3 Carlina Kitchen

Asking Price: $600,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $150,000

Downpayment Needed: $120,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $5,000

Purchase Price: $610,000

Purchase Date: 6/30/2004

Address: 3 Carlina, Irvine, CA 92620Rollback

First Mortgage $495,000 – 1.5% teaser rate

HELOC $99,000

Beds: 3
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 1,377
$/Sq. Ft.: $436
Lot Size: 4,420 Sq. Ft.
Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Cape Cod
Year Built: 1978
Stories: One Level
Area: Northwood
County: Orange
MLS#: S518479
Status: Active
On Redfin: 30 days

Seller super motivated. Make an offer, ANY offer on this Charming light and bright home located in a quite Cul-de-sac. Newer Kitchen cabinets and appliances. Large ceramic tiles in main areas. Above ground spa, Covered patio with skylight. Remodelled bathroom in master berdroom. Many nicely upgraded features thoughout this home. Interior and exterior painted a year ago. No mello roos or HOA. Low Property Taxes.

Bird Room

Make an offer, ANY offer. Do you smell blood in the water?

light and bright — This is nails on a chalkboard to me. Pet peeve, I guess.

Seller super motivated. If so, where are the obligatory three exclamation points?

berdroom? Is that like a birdroom?

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This seller (or the lender if they maxed out the HELOC) is going to lose $46,000 after a 6% commission assuming they get their asking price. As you can see, we are moving past 2004 prices and heading downward.

These are the properties that are going to drive prices lower in Irvine. This isn’t subprime, this is just an ordinary buyer who bought too late, paid too much and cannot afford the home. There are many of these people in Irvine. We have profiled many here, and we will profile many more. The ones we have seen to date are the most distressed sellers with the shortest fuses on their time bomb loans, but there are many, many more of these people hoping and praying the market will come back to save them. Unfortunately, all the people with shorter fuses on their bombs are going to explode first and keep prices depressed in the process. This is the nature of “overhead supply,” and it is why a market needs capitulatory selling to clear it out before any appreciation can take place.

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Old Spice

Take or leave it or just don’t even bother.

Caught in a craze it’s just a phase

or will this be around forever.

Don’t you know it’s going too fast

Racing so hard you know it won’t last.

Don’t you know what can’t you see,

Slow it sown, read the sign so you know just where you’re going.

Stop right now, thank you very much,

Stop — Spice Girls

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Another song about the housing bubble… or is it romance… or was there a difference? Everyone got crazy about real estate thinking the rally would last forever. Prices were going up so fast people ignored the signs, and now the music has stopped. Do you have a chair?

Finding comparable properties for sale and for rent provides a good way to check neighborhood fundamental values. Today, I am featuring a for sale property a few doors down from a rental of similar size and configuration.

15 Spicewood Way Front 15 Spicewood Way Dining

Asking Price: $735,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $183,750

Downpayment Needed: $147,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $6,125

Purchase Price: $177,500

Purchase Date: 7/22/1986

Address: 15 Spicewood Way, Irvine, CA 92612

Beds: 3
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 2,369
$/Sq. Ft.: $310
Lot Size: 3,040 Sq. Ft.
Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Other
Year Built: 1968
Stories: Two Levels
View(s): Park or Green Belt
Area: University Park
County: Orange
MLS#: S519808
Status: Active
On Redfin: 19 days

Spacious Julliard Model. Wow!3 Bedrooms each with its own bathroom. One bedroom and bathroom downstairs. This home boasts a sunroom, cozy fireplace, catherdral ceilings, skylight and track lights in Living Room. 2 Large private enclosed patios to entertain your guests. Newer windows in all the rooms. Recessed lighting in Kitchen. Cook to your hearts delight on the 5 plate range. Tile entry way and formal dining room. One wall fully mirrored. Near acclaimed schools, shopping, University and excellent community amenities. Very QUIET! NO MELLO ROOS! LOW TAX RATE! This home is built for entaining. A Must see! Bonus Room was converted to master bedroom

How many people would remember a model design from 1968?

entaining? catherdral?

No pictures of the kitchen, so I am suspect of its quality.

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So how much would a property like this rent for? Try $2,500.

$2500 / 3br – PRESIDENT’S WEEKEND SPECIAL- BEST VALUE IN IRVINE!

3 Spicewood Way Kitchen 3 Spicewood Way Front

RentalIMO, this rental is a very good deal. It is just over $1 / SF per month. If this is a valid market rent, then how much is the featured listing really worth?

$2,500 * 160 = $400,000. Hmmm…

Should I pay $735,000, or should I wait for the price to drop to $400,000? That is a tough one. I think I will wait…

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Walkaway

Somewhere in a roadside motel room

Alone in the silence she wakes up too soon

And reaches for his arm

But she’ll just keep reachin’ on

For the cold hard truth revealed what it had known

That boy’s just

A walkaway Joe

Born to be a leaver

Tell you from the word go, destined to deceive her

He’s a wrong kinda paradise

She’s gonna know it in a matter of time

That boy’s just a walkaway Joe

Walkaway Joe — Trisha Yearwood

Doesn’t this song describe late bubble buyers with little or no money down?

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342 Quail Ridge Inside342 Quail Ridge Toilet

Asking Price: $449,900IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $112,475

Downpayment Needed: $89,980

Monthly Equity Burn: $3,749

Purchase Price: approximately $580,000

Purchase Date: Unknown

Address: 342 Quail Ridge, Irvine, CA 92603Rollback

Beds: 2
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 1,500
$/Sq. Ft.: $300
Lot Size:
Type: Condominium
Style: Traditional
Year Built: 2005
Stories: Two Levels
View(s): Hills
Area: Quail Hill
County: Orange
MLS#: S521784
Status: Active
On Redfin: 2 days

Gourmet Kitchen Award A Stunning Home! So many upgrades!Gourmet Kitchen with VENETIAN GOLD Granite Counters and Sit-Up Bar * Stainless Appliances, * Stunning Fireplace * Extensive Dark Maple Wood Floors (see pic’s) * Dark Wood Built-ins * Master Suite w/ Spacious Walk-in Closet and Hugh Master Bath w/ Custom Tumbled Turco Stone Tile * Dual Sinks * Separate Soaking Tub /Shower * Open Spacious Floorplan. Great Living Area With Nice Formal Dinning Room * Deluxe Garage * Recessed Lights * Gorgeous Upgrades * This Home Is SPOTLESS * * * * * SHOW LIKE A BRAND NEW HOME * * * * * A MUST SEE! Tax rate 1.4% including Mello Roos!

ALL CAPS

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“SHOW LIKE A BRAND NEW HOME * * * * * A MUST SEE!”

Gourmet Kitchen

And of course…

342 Quail Ridge Pergraniteel

Pergraniteel.

This listing manages to encapsulate every cliché known to realtors.

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The carnage in Quail Hell continues. I don’t have an accurate purchase price and date, but inferring from the tax records, it appears this seller paid around $580,000. If he gets his asking price and pays a 6% commission, the loss will be around $160,000. I would imagine the lender will eat this one, but I can’t be sure. Notice the price on a per square foot basis: $300. This is a very low price for a small unit. It wasn’t long ago we were blogging about breaking the $500,000 barrier in Quail Hill, now we are about to break the $300 / SF barrier as well.

So how low will it go in Quail Hell?

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