Monthly Archives: October 2007

WTF Open House

Not so, no there’s no sellout
You ain’t got enough ducats to shell out
Well I’m in front, and yo I feel great
Check out the story to the glory of the real estate

[Sen Dog]
Yeah, roaches come in but they don’t come out G
Don’t come on the Hill
That’s right
Get off the Real Estate
Get off the Real Estate
Get off the Real Estate
Get off the Real Estate

Real Estate — Cypress Hill

Link to Music Video

If you don’t like rap or lyrics with numerous 4 letter words, don’t click on the links above.

I wonder if the sheriff becomes too busy to forcibly evict people if they will contract with gangsta rappers? Get off the Real Estate!!!

53 Bridgeport Front53 Bridgeport Kitchen

Asking Price: $610,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $152,500

Downpayment Needed: $122,000

Purchase Price: $500,000

Purchase Date: 6/7/2005

Address: 53 Bridgeport, Irvine, CA 92620

1st Loan $350,000
2nd Mtg. $50,000
Downpayment $100,000

Kool Aid Man

Beds: 2
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 967
$/Sq. Ft.: $631
Lot Size: 3,500 sq. ft.
Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Other
Year Built: 1984
Stories: One Level
Area: Northwood
County: Orange
MLS#: R711202
Status: Active
On Redfin: 14 daysWTF

From Redfin, “2 BR, 2 FULL BA, 2 CAR GARAGE WITH OPENER & 2 REMOTE CONTROLS. LOTS OF UPGRADES INSIDE & OUT. SEE FOR YOURSELF. SELLER MOTIVATED. LIVINGROOM, MASTER BEDROOM HAVE CATHEDRAL CEILING, TILED KITCHEN FLOOR & EATING AREA. JUST A FEW MINUTES FROM THE FWY & EASY ACCES TO THE 5,405 & 55 FWY. CLOSE TO SHOPPING CENTER & SMALL STORES. * * * * * * * * * * OPEN HOUSE!!! THIS SAT & SUN, OCTOBER 27 & 28 FROM 12-4:00 PM. * * * * * * * * * * “

CAPS LOCK

Wow, the garage comes with two remote controls. That must be handy.

Is that R2/D2 in the kitchen or did they go out of their way to stage present their garbage can?

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IHB Tshirt

Here is your chance IHBers. Let’s all put on our IHB shirts and go see this open house. If we don’t go there, nobody else will because this property doesn’t have a chance of attracting any lookyloos with this asking price. $631/SF? WTF? This property would be lucky to sell for $425,000 in this market. $610,000 is a ridiculous fantasy. Maybe when this doesn’t sell, we will see it pop on on Craigslist with a $3,800 a month rental rate. That is what they would need to get to justify this asking price.

You have to wonder why this seller or this realtor even bothers…

Greed: it will consume you.

Circle of Hell

So ends another week at the Irvine Housing Blog. I hope you have had a good time with us. We will bring you more next week as we continue chronicling ‘the seventh circle of real estate hell.’ Have a great weekend.

🙂

Prairie Fire

Watch out
You might get what you’re after
Cool babies
Strange but not a stranger
Im an ordinary guy
Burning down the house

Hold tight wait till the party’s over
Hold tight were in for nasty weather
There has got to be a way
Burning down the house

Burning Down The House — Talking Heads

Link to Music Video

I was reading Mathew Padilla’s Mortgage Insider Blog yesterday when I came across a comment from one of the market bulls who stated “If the tragic SoCal wild fires destroy many homes, there will be a huge housing shortage. Inventory will be falling rapidly… it is a fact. Sales inventory will be absorbed by many looking for shelter. It is fortunate there are homes for sale, but I don’t think there are enough. Hopefully, the available supply does not run out before all get a new residence.”

Hundreds of homes have been damaged, and someone has died due to these fires, and someone actually looks at this event as a positive event that will help out the value of their home. I guess if bulls get desperate enough, they can solve the excess inventory problem by burning down the houses.

Back to our collapsing housing market…

Just in case anyone still thinks the high end is immune, today’s property is another Shady Canyon rollback.

32 Prairie Grass Front32 Prairie Grass Kitchen

Asking Price: $3,199,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $799,750

Downpayment Needed: $639,800

Purchase Price: $3,680,000

Purchase Date: 7/28/2006

Address: 32 Prairie Grass, Irvine, CA 92603

1st Loan $2,628,000
2nd Mtg. $500,000
Downpayment $552,000

Beds: 6
Baths: 6.5Rollback
Sq. Ft.: 5,227
$/Sq. Ft.: $612
Lot Size: 0.38 acres
Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Spanish
Year Built: 2004
Stories: Two Levels
View(s): Pool
Area: Turtle Rock
County: Orange
MLS#: S508234
Status: Active
On Redfin: 16 days

From Redfin, “If there was anything else that could have been done to this property it would have been done. Rich Granite, Distressed Hardwood, Stainless Steel, Wrought Iron, Imported Fabrics, flat screen technologies, and peaceful fountains have been meticulously woven together to complete this turnkey masterpiece. Perfectly located on one of the largest lots in the Sycamores this home is a must have for an entertaining lifestyle. 6 bedroom suites means no one has to go home. Come See”

If there was anything else that could have been done to this property it would have been done. WTF?

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If the seller gets their asking price minus a 6% commission, they stand to lose their entire $552,000 downpayment, and the bank stands to lose $120,940 for a total loss of $672,940.

I wonder if it would turn out better for them if they burned it down?

Wonder Walls

Today is gonna be the day
That they’re gonna throw it back to you
By now you should’ve somehow
Realized what you gotta do
I don’t believe that anybody
Feels the way I do about you now

Wonderwall — Oasis

Link to Music Video

Do the lyrics of that song speak about going through short sales and foreclosures? One thing is certain about housing right now: nobody feels the same way they did about it 2 years ago…

43 Ardmore Front 43 Ardmore Kitchen

Asking Price: $550,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $137,500

Downpayment Needed: $110,000

Purchase Price: $665,000

Purchase Date: 9/12/2005

Address: 43 Ardmore, Irvine, CA 92620

1st Loan $532,000
2nd Mtg. $66,500
Downpayment $66,500

Beds: 3
Baths: 3Rollback
Sq. Ft.: –
Lot Size: –
Property Type: Condo/Co-op
Area: Out of Area
County: Orange
MLS#: 07-229191
Status: Active
On Redfin: 2 days

From Redfin, “Short Sale! Seller must sell. Bring all offers. High ceiling. Olympic size community swimming pool. Close to shopping mall. “

High ceiling? Is this the only positive feature the realtor could mention? Does it make you suspect it is a complete dump?

This is perhaps the smallest kitchen I have ever seen.

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Yet another deep, deep rollback. If the property sells for its asking price assuming a 6% commission, the total loss is $148,000: the seller stands to lose their $66,500 downpayment, and the 2nd mortgage holder stands to lose their $66,500, and the primary mortgage holder stands to lose $15,000. Ordinarily, the primary mortgage holder would foreclose rather than take a loss, but for $15,000, they should take the deal and count their blessings. It will be more expensive for them if they foreclose. Alas, since the system is broken, the loan servicer will foreclose and collect their fee, and the mortgage holder will absorb an even greater loss.

Hmmm… Maybe there were reasons we had banks hold their own mortgages in the past…

Home Sales Data thru 10-15-2007

Median sale price

Sales volume

ZIP

code

Prev. 4 weeks

change

from ’06

Prev. 4 weeks

% change

from ’06

92602

$630,000

-25.0%

19

-29.6%

92603

$1,179,000

29.6%

18

-45.5%

92604

$555,000

-14.9%

19

-40.6%

92606

$610,000

-15.6%

14

16.7%

92612

$485,000

-27.5%

17

6.3%

92614

$610,000

10.9%

23

-14.8%

92618

$525,000

-12.5%

20

300.0%

92620

$745,000

-14.5%

23

-60.3%

Four data points between -12.5% and -14.9% with two above and two below. Looks like we are down between 12.5% and 15% YOY, although with such low volume figures, who knows where we really are?

Balcony View ** Update 1 **

19 Fresco has found some motivation to sell. The asking price just dropped $300,000.

Meeting you, with a view to a kill
Face to face in secret places, feel the chill.

But can we dance into the fire
That fatal kiss is all we need
Dance into the fire
To fatal sounds of broken dreams
Dance into the fire
That fatal kiss is all we need
Dance into the fire
When all we see.. is the view to a kill

A View to a Kill — Duran Duran

Link to Music Video

The properties on the top of Quail Hill offer tremendous views. All week we have been documenting the sounds of broken dreams. The properties we are featuring today all have great views of the carnage on display below.

Is the high end of the market immune? Not likely, but they aren’t showing the stress to the degree the lower priced units are. Today we have a distressed property hoping to get out at breakeven, a wishing price, and a true WTF candidate. Enjoy.

19 Fresco Front 19 Fresco Kitchen

IrvineRenter

New Asking Price: $1,950,000

Old Asking Price: $2,249,000

Purchase Price: $2,206,500

Purchase Date: 6/15/2006

Address: 19 Fresco, Irvine, CA 92603

1st Loan $1,544,232
2nd Mtg. $220,600
Downpayment $441,668

Beds: 4
Baths: 3.5
Sq. Ft.: 4,150
$/Sq. Ft.: $542
Lot Size: 7,500 sq. ft.
Year Built: 2006
Stories: 2
Type: Single Family Residence
View: City Lights, Mountain, Panoramic, Other
County: Orange
Neighborhood: Quail Hill
MLS#: S489248
Status: Active
On Redfin: 68 days

From Redfin, “TOP SINGLE-LOAD ST W/ PANORAMIC VWS OF CITY LITES, SUNSTS & MNTAINS! EVERY BLDER UPGRADE IMAGINABLE!GATED ENTRYW/ SEC. SYS; HARDWD & SLATE FLRING; CUSTM STAIRWY W/ WROUGHT IRON; FORMAL LR+GR8 RW/ CUSTOM F. P. & BLT INS; FORMAL DR W/ BLT-INS + WINE HUTCH; WD BEAMED CEILINGS; SURROUND SND; CROWN MOLDING; MANY FR DRS; 3 BALCONIES!SUPER GR8 RM!CHEF’S KITCH W/ SUB-ZERO FRIDGE, WINE COOLER, CUSTM CABINETS; GRANITE ISLND/B-FAST BAR; WOLFE RANGE; OPULENT MBR W/ RETREAT, EXERCISE RM, JACUZZI TUB+WALK-IN SHOWER; 3 WALK-IN CLSTS+MORE!”

Somebody turn off the CAPS LOCK.

This realtor must have an issue with vowels. Why remove them? You don’t save that much space.

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First, I would like to say all three of these properties are beautiful. There are some outstanding Irvine tract homes. Second, I would like to say that anyone who pays over $2,000,000 for an Irvine tract home is crazy.

It looks as if our seller is trying to get out somewhere near breakeven from the price they paid about a year ago. As we all know, last June when this seller made their purchase was the peak of the market. What chance do you see of them getting out at breakeven? At 68 days on the market, their chances don’t look promising. If they do manage to get their asking price, they stand to lose $92,440 after a 6% commission. I bet they could have rented the place for less than the $7,703 per month they will lose, and that isn’t counting the payments they made. Ouch!

29 Balcony Front 29 Balcony Kitchen

Asking Price: $2,249,000IrvineRenter

Purchase Price: $1,814,000

Purchase Date: 3/28/2006

Address: 29 Balcony, Irvine, CA 92603

1st Mtg $1,451,013
Downpayment $362,987

Beds: 4
Baths: 3.5
Sq. Ft.: 4,150
$/Sq. Ft.: $539
Lot Size: –
Year Built: 2006
Stories: 2
Type: Single Family Residence
View: City Lights, Hills, Mountain, Panoramic, Other
County: Orange
Neighborhood: Quail Hill
MLS#: S493331
Status: Active
On Redfin: 39 days

From Redfin, “A TRUE MASTERPIECE Highly Upgraded Inside & Out with extensive use of Natural Flagstone Hardscape, Blt-In BBQ, Outdoor Fireplace & 3 Water Features! The Interior features Stone & Distressed Hardwood Flooring * Two Grand Fireplaces * Beamed Ceilings * Multiple Custom Blt-Ins * Wine Storage * Wrought Iron Stair Railings & Much More! A Truly Gourmet Kitchen w/ SS Appliances * Large Center Island * Dual Convection Ovens * Six Burner Cooktop & Designer Backsplash! Large Mst. Suite w/ Exercise Rm. & Panoramic Views!”

Is there something wrong with periods? I always thought a period ended a sentence and not an asterisk or an exclamation point. Perhaps realtors have their own grammar?

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This is a classic “wishing price.” This seller also bought at the peak, but somehow this property has appreciated 20% over the last year. Go figure. If someone where going to spend this kind of money, they would be better off going up the hill to 19 Fresco and paying less money.

15 Balcony Front 15 Balcony Kitchen

Asking Price: $2,999,000IrvineRenter

Purchase Price: $2,698,500

Purchase Date: 10/18/2006

Address: 15 Balcony, Irvine, CA 92603

1st Loan $1,888,880
2nd Mtg. $269,840
Downpayment $539,780Knife Catcher Award

Beds: 4
Baths: 3.5
Sq. Ft.: 4,800
$/Sq. Ft.: $625
Lot Size: 10,000 sq. ft.
Year Built: 2006
Stories: 2
Type: Single Family Residence
View: City Lights, Panoramic, Park or Green BeltWTF
County: Orange
Neighborhood: Quail Hill
MLS#: P576305
Status: Active
On Redfin: 83 days

From Redfin, “BEST IN QUAIL HILL * FORMER MODEL HM * BREATHTAKING VIEWS * LUXURY FUR NISHED ESTATE * X’LNT SINGLE LOADED ST * THE UTMOST ATTENTION TO DETAIL, UNIQUE MATERIAL & FINEST WORKMANSHIP * 4 BR 3.5 BA + LIBRARY + WINE RM + UPSTAIR BONUS RM * DBL STAIRCASE * PRIVATE WROUGHT IRON GATE LEAD TO COURT YARD * CROWN MOLDING, CUSTOME BUILT-IN’S * STONE WALL & WROUGHT IRON DBL DOORS * GRANITE, HIGHLY UPGRADED BATH RMS * EXQYUSUTEKY LANDSCAPING * . .. TOO MANY ITEMS TO LIST * GREAT VALUE * DON’T MISS THIS OUT *”

This CAPS LOCK think is really annoying…

What is EXQYUSUTEKY? After 83 days do you think the realtor might have caught that misspelling?

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Kool Aid Man

And for our weekly denouement we have this knife-catching, kool-aid-drinking dreamer. When this seller paid almost $2.7 million for this property at the end of last year, I have to wonder what they were thinking. Could this property possibly be that much better than these two neighboring properties we just featured? This is the most expensive property listed in Quail Hill, and there are others which are bigger, nicer, and farther up the hill selling for less money. To be quite honest, even some of these other properties have silly asking prices. WTF?

37 FRESCO, Irvine, CA 92603

38 W SILHOUETTE CMN, Irvine, CA 92603

51 MOMENTO, Irvine, CA 92603WTF

I can’t figure out how this seller thinks they can get this price. I can’t figure out how they justify what they even paid for it. And with my confusion comes confirmation that this is indeed a WTF award winner.

I hope you all have enjoyed Quail Hill Week at the Irvine Housing Blog. Come back next week as we continue to document the slow motion train wreck that is our housing market. Have a great weekend!