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The best quote I’ve seen about financial innovation was from former Fed Chairman Paul Volker who said that the only true financial innovation of the last 20 years that added real value to the economy was the ATM machine. The rest of innovation was just gambling.
I don’t see the point in 30% down, I think 20% down was working just fine. It all went downhill when that started getting chopped down to 10%, then 5%, 3%, and eventually to no-down. Preserving the 20% down should keep homeowners feeling plenty vested to think extremely hard about abandoning ship. It will likely go far in keeping prices in check, which will in turn keep volatility in check and equities more intact.
Actually, I feel pretty strongly that just this requirement alone should greatly reduce the problems of the past 10 years in the credit market. We don’t even need to mess with controlling the securitized assets if the government restricts over-leverage with this single requirement. There would be no way to build an over-abundance of risky assets when only those with the cash can get a loan.
Gepotah, I agree, If there is not a bubble, 20% down should work fine. That said, I think programs that reduce the interest rate and amortization term incrementally based upon down payment are smart, many programs offer a lower rate for 25% down vs 20% down and for 20 year fixed vs 30 year fixed.
Policy and in this case loan programs can dictate behavior. Just as neg am and stated income encourages the wrong behavior and bad financial management, programs that encourage more responsible lending and good financial management should be promoted and those smart enough to take advantage should be rewarded.
Thank you for taking the time for the rewrite. I know the feeling of doing a data dump and then having to recreate it.
Oh yes, just about forgot to mention that I close escrow today! We moved here from St. Croix to Irvine to Rancho 20 months ago and have found our home here in Ranch Santa Margarita. I’ve enjoyed your blogging and the information provided helped me to make, IMHO, an intelligent long-term decision. So I guess I’m no longer MovingBack and shall now call myself BackHomeAgain.
Thank You.
You’re welcome. I am delighted you find value in the writing here, and congratulations on your new purchase. You made my day.
100% down should be the requirement.
Would you still feel that way if you were selling a house?
I don’t understand the issue with 20% down. It allows the lender to get complete, or almost complete recovery in the vast number of cases.
Add to 20% down a decent credit score and verification of income and call it a day.
At that point our best and brightest needs to figure out what to do with the 1 trillion + the gov is borrowing every year.
Assuming this family lived there the entire time since 1997
Cashing out and departing the closing table with net a $500K check is an excellent move.
In the same time frame, renting in Irvine means you were SOL.
Yep. As our esteemed host frequently points out, timing matters.
I wouldn’t necessarily call buying right before the housing bubble “an excellent move”. It’s unlikely that they planned on benefiting from the largest economic bubble in the history of mankind. Instead they probably bought because it was cheaper than renting (yes, there actually was a time like that in Irvine). Just because you see a baby on third base don’t assume they hit a triple.
Mike Dunn is famous (or notorious) for his listing descriptions. One of my favorites is:
“End of cul de sac, more upgrades than Taj Mahal, Forbidden City, Taipei Tower and the Burj Dubai combined!!!!”
I wonder how his clients feel about his listings… although I’m sure they just want it sold at a high price.
Yes, I have noticed other listings he has done where he slips in a zinger. I think its great.
Yeah, Mike knows the market dead-on.
If you were to use something like Google Docs (or even Gmail) to compose your comments, you probably would not need to worry about losing anything you write. “An ounce of prevention….” Furthermore, because you post your comments publicly, I suppose you wouldn’t need to wrestle with the inherent loss of privacy associated with putting data “in a cloud.”
By the way, although I think you may be a bit obsessed with this blog, I enjoy your astute commentaries. I’ve learned much by reading your comments and those of the other contributors. At the risk of coming across as a preachy do-gooder, because I tend to become far too obsessed myself for my own good, I see many signs that you may be harming your overall health with your current behavior. I’m sorry to preach (I certainly have many, many shortcomings myself) but my hunch is that if were to listen to your wife- who I expect says things like, “Honey, why don’t you come to bed now?”- you might be better off.
The thought crossed my mind last night as well.
It’s all good. I was a bit fatigued today, but I am in good spirits.
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At the risk of sounding like some preachy know-it-all who thinks he is all high and mighty, I’m going to offer you some more food for thought (pun intended, see later in this observation).
If you accept the following two aphorisms, “Behind every good man is a good woman”
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Karenina_principle
“Happy families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.”
then when your wife says, “Hey honey it’s getting late, you need to come to bed” you’ll heed her call in spite of what I suppose is a voice inside your head that says something, “I’ve got to get this done!” That later voice is the siren song of obsession which, like a mirage, can easily lead one astray. I regret that I have heeded that siren song for much of my life.
I know it probably seems obvious, but it’s also probably worth reminding you that your family and your health are far more important than this blog.
Personally I’m a bit like border collie: I tend to succumb to workaholism unless someone or something intervenes to stop me. Unfortunately I’m not married yet. But I’m working on it. I suspect you have a similar workaholic tendency. Although our society tends to applaud workaholics such as Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and so on, it’s not a healthy way to live.
If you approach your wife and say, “Honey. I love you and need your support. I’m spending too much time on this blog. Please help me to keep my blogging habit under control” I strongly suspect not only will your wife smile with a huge grin of joy and relief, but she will be very glad to assist you. Generally speaking, wives yearn to both emotionally support and improve their husbands.
After all, women tend to be attracted to men who they believe can provide and protect whereas men tend to be attracted to women who they believe can birth and nurture. Given your use of songs to introduce postings, here’s one you might be able to relate to: the song does *not* go, “Oh your ma’s rich and your daddy’s good lookin.’” instead it’s, “Oh your daddy’s rich. Your ma’s good lookin.’”
A quick search on Google turned up this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T03SxaUSs5Q
If you explicitly ask your wife for support in this area, I suspect it would be a bit like offering a bowl of milk to a cat or jar of honey to a bear.
Also, why not broaden the scope of your blog (from Irvine to the US) and then charge $10 for annual subscriptions to your blog? If you were to eventually get 10,000 subscribers (a big “if”) then you’d probably make about $100,000 per year or so. I’m assuming your operating costs would be negligible.
Content is king. In the field of writing, it always has been and always will be. I think you write great stuff. I hope that if you were to spend 10 hours or so each week marketing your blog via Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn etc., you’d get 10,000 subscribers within a few years.
The common notion that all content on the Internet must be free is absurd on the face of it. Besides, if the price to your subscribers were less than $1 per month (that’s about 5 cents per day) and if your subscribers knew that virtually all of the money they were paying was going into your pocket (not some big corporate entity) then I think many of your readers would be glad to support you. Although I never read his book, I seem to reacall that more or less, this is what Bill Gates predicted in “The Road Ahead.”
Warren Buffet has opined that in the short run the stock market is a voting machine; in the long run it’s a weighing machine. In the long run, I’m hoping that 10,000 folks would “weigh” your content to be worth $10 per year. I think if each of us found 10 bloggers whose work we enjoyed, many of us would pay $100 per year ($10 per month) to read their daily musings particularly if we didn’t need to navigate past increasingly invasive advertisements and worry about the inherent conflict of interest and resulting bias that necessarily occurs when writers become beholden to advertisers.
I predict history will not be kind to AOL’s acquisition of blogs such as the Huffington Post and TechCrunch not merely because the best authors from those sites will likely bolt and post articles exclusively on their own websites (thereby garnering ad revenue for themselves instead of AOL).
Of course those authors will need to keep advertising from being too annoying and/or charge a low enough price to keep readers from trying to obtain pirated copies of their work which they charge for. I could be wrong of course, but I suspect that $10 per year for access to your ad-free blog is probably price point that many in your audience would be comfortable paying. But you could try offering both a $10 per year version of your blog and a free version of your blog with ads. Personally, I’d gladly pay for the ad-free version.
[continued in part 2]
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I would be pleasantly surprised if you are currently earning enough money from you blog via home sales and Las Vegas real estate investors to justify working as hard as you do on your blog. In other words, I worry that even for a workaholic like you, you are going to run out of steam unless you start making more money from this blog. Again, I hope I’m wrong. And losing your blog would be a real shame for me personally and for our society as a whole because you really do provide a very valuable service.
Frankly, I wish schools would introduce blogs like yours and CalculatedRisk into the curriculum. Actually, I think contacting college professors in economics departments and business schools might be an effective way to market your blog. However, powerful interests (such as mainstream media and the National Association of Realtors) are not going to go away now or ever. As with many other primates, we humans tend to form cabals to control large groups of our fellows. But bloggers like you are making great strides towards helping folks like me see past the veil of propaganda spouted profusely by the Ministry of Truth (or the Wizard of Oz).
Reaching out to your readers to get $10 per year is a way to help you help us. In asking for $10 per year from your readers you might post an article entitled with the following quotation from the inimitable Jerry Maguire saying/pleading, “Help me help you!” That would be the carrot. The stick would be, I’m going to start making money (in the vernacular of advertising: monetize eyeballs) from folks who don’t pay by posting ads on my free blog from a source such as this one http://web.blogads.com/publisher_html
This is just my 2 cents. Please feel free to ignore my advice. But one of my favorite podcasts/blogs seems to have ended http://losblogueros.net/ I suspect they didn’t make enough money to justify the work. I’m rooting for another one of my favorite blogs, http://www.ginatonic.net/ but I worry Gina will run out of steam too unless she starts making more money from her blog.
IrvineRentor I’ll do $10.00!
Dude, has anyone ever clued you in to your insufferable busybody tendencies??? If not, they should have long ago.
I am sure IR is capable of managing his own life and stress and finances without your sage advice. I for one applaud his admirable work ethic and dedication.
IR does not strike me as one in risk of tottering over the edge any time soon. Save your prognostications of psychological doom for the Dr. Phil Blog.
+1. Just think, individuals like this are running our government…scary.
There is little difference in risk between a 10-year T-bill and a GSE MBS. There is usually a spread between the two that represents the risk premium the market demands for risk of loss. With direct government backing, the spread is very small, so mortgage interest rates are relatively close to 10-year yields.
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This is incorrect. GSE MBS have prepayment and liquidity risk. That is the main reason why they have different rates to similar duration treasuries.
IrvineRenter, 2 much scotch…......... sorry 4 the typo.
Thank you Larry, for finding the energy and losing the sleep to rewrite your post. I’ve gotten so addicted to IHB that it would wreck my day if there wasn’t a new one to read. It will be a long slow withdrawal for me when you stop writing.
I second the $10!
> I calmed down, wrote this pep talk to myself, drank my coffee, and hunkered down to rewrite it all. Reliability trumps sleep.
Attaboy!
An thanks to Mrs. IR too.
(to readers) less effective way than the $10 site fee to show Larry your appreciation is to buy his book. Some of that $ will go to Amazon and the publisher, but some will go to him, and it will help the book’s sales #s.
Have you ever polled your readers to get a profile for advertisers? I’d imagine you’d be getting a good slice of your local population and out-of-state readers would be well-educated and fairly high income (attractive eyes for advertisers).
Bill Gates and Steve Jobs stopped writing code a long time ago. You could add guest posters, or other regular contributors.
Great advice from John Stumpf!
I’m a new reader of your blog. I don’t have an astute observation, but a question for you. We are currently renting and we want to buy a $600,000 home. We have $350,000 for a down payment and no debt. We also need the tax write off of a home. Would your advice be to wait since prices are coming down, or buy now?
Thank you!
Hi Betsy;
Thanks for the note. Historically speaking one is better off buying when interest rates are high and prices are lower and then refinancing when rates go back down. Since you have such a large down payment, the artificially low interest rates that are keeping prices high are working against you.
Buying in today’s market makes more sense for people that plan to leverage and have lower down payments, particularly under 30%, are planning to hold long term, and find a home that is below rental parity. With such a large amount down, you should speak with your accountant to make sure that you have the benefits of the tax write-off in the proper perspective. In addition, with artificially low rates and the banks holding back shadow inventory and all of the loan modifications that will serve as a short term band aid, there is a lot more downside risk than upside potential.
There are a lot of factors that come into play, you can email me at; shevy@idealhomebrokers.com and to set up a time to meeting and discuss your individual situation.
“historically speaking”
LOL
History, it isn’t as long as it used to be.