Monthly Archives: October 2008

Crying

Crying — Aerosmith

I was cryin’ when I met you
Now I’m tryin’ to forget you
Your love is sweet misery

For all our wisdom and collective experience, none of us knows what the markets will do next. Like an ocean current or a raging river, a financial market charts its own course. It is fickle and feckless and flows without regard to our hopes and dreams. The ebbs and flows of financial markets are meaningful to us, but in reality they are just movements in price; nothing more. Price rallies make homeowners blissful and renters bitter, while price declines make homeowners gloomy and renters gleeful. These feelings and emotions are independent of movements in price. The market just moves, that is all it does. It is benign, yet dangerous; it is indifferent, yet demonstrative; the market is a paradox which we must simply accept.

I was cryin’ just to get you
Now I’m dyin’ ’cause I let you

When today’s featured property was purchased in 2005, the owner undoubtedly thought they made the purchase of a lifetime. This property was certain to appreciate at 15% a year. It would be worth $2,000,000 soon enough. Now the owner is trying to forget this place. They listed the property at a short-sale price, they have proceeded to knock almost 20% off the asking price and still no takers.

Listing Price History

Date Price
Aug 26, 2008 $535,000
Sep 05, 2008 $525,000
Sep 17, 2008 $515,000
Sep 25, 2008 $505,000
Sep 29, 2008 $495,000
Oct 07, 2008 $485,000
Oct 15, 2008 $465,000
Oct 20, 2008 $445,000
Oct 21, 2008 $435,000
Oct 27, 2008 $425,000

Of course, they are not alone. We have profiled another property nearby lately: 65 Weepingwood #97, Irvine, CA 92614. This nearly identical property was an REO, and the lender let it go for $385,000. Do you think today’s seller will get 10% more? I doubt it.

97 Weepingwood kitchen

Asking Price: $425,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $106,250

Downpayment Needed: $85,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $3,499

Purchase Price: $565,500

Purchase Date: 10/28/2005

Address: 97 Weepingwood, Irvine, CA 92614

Beds: 3
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,582
$/Sq. Ft.: $269
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Other
Year Built: 1983
Stories: 2 Levels
Floor: 1
Area: Woodbridge
County: Orange
MLS#: S545417
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 63 days

3 BEDROOMS, 2.5 BATHROOMS, 2 CAR GARAGE. CLOSE TO 405 FWY.

No wasted words in that description.

This property was purchased for $565,500 on 10/28/2005, the same day as the comparable property. The owner used a $452,400 first mortgage, two HELOCs for $56,550, and a $0 downpayment. There are two more HELOCs opened later for $17,000 and $116,500 respectively. It appears as if the total debt on the property is the total of the first mortgage and the final HELOC: $568,900, although it could be $17,000 higher.

If this sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, the total loss to Wells Fargo will be $169,400. And I thought they were a conservative lender…

{book}

Get a Grip
There was a time
When I was so broken hearted
Love wasn’t much of a friend of mine
The tables have turned, yeah
‘Cause me and them ways have parted
That kind of love was the killin’ kind
Listen, all I want is someone I can’t resist
I know all I need to know by the way that I got kissed
I was cryin’ when I met you
Now I’m tryin’ to forget you
Love it sweet misery
I was cryin’ just to get you
Now I’m dyin’ ’cause I let you
Do what you do down on me
Now there’s not even breathin’ room
Between pleasure and pain
Yeah you cry when we’re makin’ love
Must be one and the same
It’s down on me
Yeah I got to tell you one thing
It’s been on my mind
Girl, I gotta say
We’re partners in crime
You got that certain something
What you give to me
Takes my breath away
Now the word out on the street
Is the devil’s in your kiss
If our love goes up in flames
It’s a fire I can’t resist
I was cryin’ when I met you
Now I’m tryin’ to forget you
Your love is sweet misery
I was cryin’ just to get you
Now I’m dyin’ ’cause I let you

Crying — Aerosmith

IHB Privacy Policy

Privacy — Michael Jackson

The Irvine Housing Blog has an unwritten policy concerning privacy that needs to be stated.

  1. We do not use names. We do not have an ax to grind with any particular homeowner. The stories we convey are representative of many faceless owners and borrowers in Irvine and around the country. We uncover the microeconomic factors that underpin the major macroeconomic problems facing the country and the world today. There is no need to reveal names, although since these names are in the public record, we could do so if we chose to.
  2. We post information from the public record. All the sales and mortgage information is a matter of public record. There is no expectation of privacy concerning this information. If the owners of the properties we profile have a problem with that, I suggest they take it up with the state legislature. Of course, that will not go anywhere because our entire real property transaction system operates on the public nature of this information. Up until the real estate bubble, there weren’t any real stories found in these public records, so very few people bothered to write about it. Now there is, so now we do.
  3. The information is accurate. There may be instances where the public record is in error, but not very often. I occasionally read about bloggers being threatened with libel lawsuits. This is crazy. First, for the printed word to be libelous, it must be inaccurate. What we post is not. Second, the inaccuracy of this information must be reasonably known to the person printing it. Since we post only what is in the public records it is either accurate, or there is no way we could have known it was inaccurate. Either way, we are not being libelous. If someone wants to bring suit anyway, I suggest they read California Civil Code Section 425.10-425.16: the anti-SLAPP legislation.

I can understand that some people find this information embarrassing. Of course, they should have thought of that before they did something that they might find embarrassing later on. Those who are obsessed with “keeping up with the Jones” and worried about what the neighbors think are the most prone to abuse their HELOCs and pretend they are rich. These are the people who feel the most embarrassment because they obsess on what they believe other people think about them. There is an old adage which says, “you wouldn’t worry about what other
people think about you if you realized how little they did.” I cannot control people’s reactions to these posts, nor do I want to. Quite honestly, I don’t give them a second thought after the post has had its day. I am certainly not going to stop blogging because someone might be embarrassed if their illusion of wealth and prosperity is exposed for what it is.

I am not trying to embarrass people. If these stories could be told in a way so nobody was embarrassed, I would do so. Unfortunately, there is no other way to tell these stories, and the lessons these stories teach to individuals and society are important. If these stories are not told, another generation might be tempted to abuse their HELOCs and refinance themselves out of their homes. If these stories are not told, another generation of lenders may repeat the mistakes of the bubble and risk a catastrophic implosion of our financial system. If we do not learn the lessons of history, we are doomed to repeat its mistakes.

Today’s featured property was purchased right at the peak with 100% financing. Of course the owners are walking away now, and the lender is absorbing the loss. For those keeping score, this on is being offered for 27.6% off its peak purchase price.

14212 Utrillo back

Asking Price: $445,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $153,750

Downpayment Needed: $123,000

Monthly Equity Burn: $5,125

Purchase Price: $615,000

Purchase Date: 11/21/2006

Address: 14212 Utrillo Drive, Irvine, CA 92606

Beds: 3
Baths: 2
Sq. Ft.: 1,224
$/Sq. Ft.: $364
Lot Size: 5,500

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Ranch
Year Built: 1972
Stories: 1 Level
Area: Walnut
County: Orange
MLS#: S552132
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 3 days

Desirable single story home in the Colony tract. Light and open
floorplan. Cozy fireplace in vaulted ceiling living room. Corner lot
with private back yark. Kitchen has been upgraded. Property is Bank
owned REO. Bank is deciding what if any work they will complete.

If the kitchen has been upgraded, why now show a picture of it?

This property was purchased on 11/21/2006 for $615,000. The owners used a $492,000 first mortgage a $123,000 second mortgage, and a $0 downpayment. One very interesting thing about this property is that the bank did not bid up to the amount of the first mortgage. Instead they bid almost 15% less at $425,475, and they won the auction anyway. The bank was willing to take a loss of $189,525 at the courthouse steps.

{book}

Ain’t the pictures enough, why do you go through so much
To get the story you need, so you can bury me
You’ve got the people confused, you tell the stories you choose
You try to get me to lose the man I really am
You keep on stalking me, invading my privacy
Won’t you just let me be
‘Cause your cameras can’t control, the minds of those who know
That you’ll even sell your soul just to get a story sold

I need my privacy, I need my privacy
So paparazzi, get away from me

Privacy — Michael Jackson

Unbelievable?

Unbelievable — Bob Dylan

They said it was the land of milk and honey
Now they say it’s the land of money
Who ever thought they’d ever make that stick
It’s unbelievable you could get this rich this quick.

Isn’t
this whole situation a bit surreal? It is almost unbelievable that we
are witnessing such a catastrophic crash in our financial markets
coupled with a dramatic economic slowdown. The root cause of all this
turmoil is the behavior of owners like those I profile every day. So
many people took on so much more debt than they can afford to service,
and the geniuses on Wall Street securitized these toxic loans and
poisoned the entire world economic system. Think about this for a
moment: if the many borrowers in the bubble markets had not
borrowed so much money to inflate this massive housing bubble, our
current economic problems would not have occurred
. There are many
responsible parties, and it always takes two to tango, but if the
demand for toxic loans had not been present, the toxic loans would not
have been issued.

It’s unbelievable it’s strange but true
It’s inconceivable it could happen to you

Why would anyone be selling right now? Prices are 20% off the peak, and there are a number of REOs to compete with. Homeowners who are not distressed are not selling now — perhaps with the exception of those who recognize prices are going lower. Measurements of distressed properties only consider REOs and short sales; however, there are a number of overextended homeowners who are trying to get out before they become one of these statistics. These homeowners are just as distressed, but if they can manage to get out now, they will not lose all their remaining equity and good credit. Like the truly distressed properties, these owners will sell. They will either sell now while they do not meet the technical definition of distress, or they will sell later when they do. For most of these homeowners, hanging on is probably not an option. Most have more than doubled their mortgages, and when their ARMs reset, they will be unable to make the payments. So when pundits say our inventory is not distressed, they may be technically correct, but many of what appear to be organic sales are truly distressed sales. And even many of those that are not distressed are choosing to sell now because prices are dropping, and they know they will be able to reenter the market at a lower price point. A significant portion of the non-distressed sales are still highly motivated.

Today’s featured property is for sale because it is distressed. It does not fit the classical definition because it is not a short sale or an REO, but the long-term owners of this property got caught up in the financial mania, and they doubled their mortgage. Now they have an Option ARM about to explode, and they are hoping to sell before it does. They made mistakes when they got caught up in a financial mania, but selling now — before they lose everything — is the best decision they could make.

3 Encina Kitchen

Asking Price: $739,900IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $184,975

Downpayment Needed: $147,980

Monthly Equity Burn: $6,165

Purchase Price: $339,000

Purchase Date: 10/24/1991

Address: 3 Encina, Irvine, CA 92620

Beds: 4
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 2,459
$/Sq. Ft.: $301
Lot Size: 4,635

Sq. Ft.

Property Type: Single Family Residence
Style: Contemporary/Modern
Year Built: 1978
Stories: 2 Levels
Area: Northwood
County: Orange
MLS#: S552191
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 1 day

New Listing (24 hours)

GREAT VALUE ON CUL DE SAC STREET! Move In Ready Large 4 Bedroom Plus
Master Retreat, 2.5 Baths-Many Upgrades-Tile Floors,New Berber Carpet,
Laminate Floors, Window Shutters-Lots of Natural Light-Formal Living
& Dining Room, Large Kitchen w/Newer Appliances Including Double
Oven, Tile Floor & Counters, Pantry & Breakfast Nook w/Ceiling
Fan, Step Down Family Room w/Brick Fireplace, Spacious Master has
Retreat, Vaulted Ceilings & Walk-In Closet w/Organizers, Master
Bath w/Dual Vanity, Oval Tub, Separate Tiled Shower w/Newer Glass
Enclosure, Private & Lush Backyard has Bubbling Spa, Wood Patio
Cover, Hardscape w/Brick Accents, Mature Plants & Trees, Inside
Laundry Room, Newer Tile Roof, A/C & Furnace-Walk to Award Winning
Schools, Shopping, Parks & Trails-No Mello Roos, Low Tax Rate,
Association Dues $48/Month-Don’t Miss This Fantastic Opportunity!!

Why Is This Written In Title Case?

This is another sad story of a long-term owner who got caught up in the fallacies of The Great Housing Bubble and now they are losing their home. This property was purchased on 10/24/1991 — 17 years ago. The property records do not mention the amount of their purchase-money mortgage, but on 7/30/2003, the refinanced for $322,700. Then the kool aid began to flow.

  • On 9/16/2003 they opened a HELOC for $100,000.
  • On 4/7/2005 they refinanced with an Option ARM for $440,000.
  • On 6/3/2005 they opened a HELOC for $120,000.
  • On 2/22/2007 they refinanced with an Option ARM for $580,000.
  • On 5/4/2007 they opened a HELOC for $50,000.
  • Total debt on the property is $630,000.
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal is approximately $300,000.

Like many we have documented here, these people believed all of the fallacies of the housing bubble, and now they are losing their house. Losing the family home is a big price to pay, particularly when they have lived there for 17 years.

Those looking for market denial have been pointing to the continued activity on knife catchers in the more desirable markets. Their activity has caused prices not to decline as rapidly as they have been in less desirable neighborhoods and communities. The supposition is that there will always be a sufficient quantity of knife catchers willing to pay inflated prices to prevent further meaningful price declines. There is the possibility that this could happen. There are two factors working against this:

  1. As prices decline in other communities, a certain number of buyers will be enticed by the lower prices and buy there rather than in Irvine or other inflated, desirable markets.
  2. The number of distressed properties is larger than the number of knife catchers.

The first of these issues will cause the number of knife catchers to be smaller; it restricts demand. This will certainly happen. The second of these problems will cause an increase in supply. So far, this more serious problem has not caused inventories to balloon out of control. Based on what I see every day in the property records (owners like these,) and knowing the amount of ARM resets on the horizon, I believe it is very likely that the number of distressed properties will overwhelm the number of knife catchers and drive prices significantly lower. Only time will tell.

{book}

Bob DylanIt’s unbelievable it’s strange but true
It’s inconceivable it could happen to you
You’re going north and you’re going south
Just like bait in a fish’s mouth
Must be living in the shadow of some kind of evil star
It’s unbelievable it would get this far.

It’s unbelievable what they’d have you to think
It’s indescribable it can drive you to drink
They said it was the land of milk and honey
Now they say it’s the land of money
Who ever thought they’d ever make that stick
It’s unbelievable you could get this rich this quick.

Unbelievable — Bob Dylan

Introducing the RentVsOwnulator

Amish Paradise — Al Yankovic

The wheels of progress keep turning here at the Irvine Housing Blog. Some of you may have noticed that we have introduced a new rent versus own decision calculator. It is still a work in progress, but it is good enough to put on the main site. We hope to add some formatting and create a stand-alone version for people to download and use.

Our goal was to create an accurate and detailed accounting for the true cost of ownership. This is a point-in-time calculator. You are not asked to make assumptions about inflation or appreciation. There are no projections for the future. People who invest in real estate (I am not talking about stupid amateur speculators) always look at the stabilized cashflow in the first year of ownership. If it doesn’t make sense in year 1, then it isn’t an investment, it is a speculative gamble. There are a variety of rent versus own calculators out there. Most are put up by realtors. They are totally biased and ignore costs and exaggerate benefits. Some are put up by bubble bloggers that are biased the other direction. We want to be accurate.

Most of the underlying assumptions are documented in the post Rent versus Own. Most of the inputs are in the left-side column, and most of the outputs are on the right (the exception is the HOA fees which are plugged in directly on the cost side). Play with these assumptions at your own risk. As I documented in the Rent versus Own post many of the costs are underestimated, and many of the benefits are overestimated. The most common mistakes are to ignore maintenance and replacement reserves and to overestimate the tax savings. The true tax benefit is not the highest marginal tax rate you pay.

The primary function of the calculator is to determine the true cost of ownership to compare to a base rent. However, we have added a reverse calculation that allows renters to put in the rent they are currently paying and show them how much house they can afford. Since this is not a spreadsheet calculation and we could not iterate to run the calculations backward, we cheated: we use a percentage of rent that goes to the cost of ownership beyond the payment and subtract this from the rent to compute the purchase price, downpayment and loan amount. You will see the two methods produce very close results both forward and backward.

Any comments or suggestions for improvement will be appreciated.

In other news, I wanted to remind everyone that we are having an Irvine Housing Blog party and book signing at 6:30 on Wednesday, November 12, 2008, at JT Schmids at the District. All who wish to be a part of the IHB community and meet others
in the community are encouraged to attend. We may have staff writers and photographers from OC Weekly in attendance to write a story on the IHB community. You can avoid the pictures and remain anonymous if you wish. Participation is voluntary.

Look for an interview with me in the Irvine World News on Wednesday and the OC Register on Thursday.

I was having a conversation about current events and the massive deleveraging we are witnessing globally and I realized something rather remarkable: most residents of California have seen their new worth decline 40% or more over the last 2 years. Think about that for a moment. The California median home price is down 40% according to the California Association of Realtors. Since houses are almost always hugely leveraged, many homeowners have lost all the net worth they once had as equity in their houses. The stock market is more than 40% down in the last year. Anyone invested in the market either directly or through their retirement plans is down 40%. Stocks, bonds, real estate, commodities, and currencies: nearly every asset class is down, and down big. The only group that has not seen a huge decline in their net worth has been renters who are mostly in cash.

What is going to become of this huge “reverse wealth effect”? There have been many studies on how much people spend when their stocks or houses appreciate. I don’t think anyone have every studied what people do when every asset they own declines significantly in value. I don’t know if it has ever happened before. You have to imagine this will create a giant sucking sound in our economy. The only people who aren’t impacted by this and who don’t care are the Amish. Maybe there is something to be said for the simple life…

We have talked about cash being king. Right now, it really is.

{book}

As I walk through the valley where I harvest my grain
I take a look at my wife and realize she’s very plain
But that’s just perfect for an Amish like me
You know, I shun fancy things like electricity
At 4:30 in the morning I’m milkin’ cows
Jebediah feeds the chickens and Jacob plows… fool
And I’ve been milkin’ and plowin’ so long that
Even Ezekiel thinks that my mind is gone
I’m a man of the land, I’m into discipline
Got a Bible in my hand and a beard on my chin
But if I finish all of my chores and you finish thine
Then tonight we’re gonna party like it’s 1699

We been spending most our lives
Living in an Amish paradise
I’ve churned butter once or twice
Living in an Amish paradise
It’s hard work and sacrifice
Living in an Amish paradise
We sell quilts at discount price
Living in an Amish paradise


Amish Paradise
— Al Yankovic

I Wanna Be a Bagholder

I Wanna Be a Cowboy — Boys Don’t Cry

When the market was at its peak, there was a 40% or greater fall in front of it. The first wave of losses and defaults were late buyers using 100% financing. This made the banks the bagholders. This is why the banks have lost so much money so far and why our entire financial system is on the verge of collapse. The banks have generally eaten the first half of the drop, and they have not been anxious to be the bagholder for the other half. So the lenders have been lining up people with good credit and 20% downpayments to take one for the team.

Every knife catcher buying in 2008 will see their 20% downpayments evaporate before this decline is over. If they hang on long enough, they will get it back, but the banks are trying to provide enough of an equity cushion in the transaction to make sure they are not the bagholders for round 2 of the price declines. This is why equity requirements and qualification requirements went up so quickly. The lenders are betting that those with good credit and plenty of their own money in the deal will not walk away when prices drop. This is a good bet on their part. There will still be a healthy default rate from loans orginated in 2008, but it will not be near as bad as the defaults from 2004-2007.

Banks don’t loosen credit until well after the crisis is over. If you are waiting for the banks to bring back 100% financing when prices bottom, that is not going to happen. In fact, credit will be at its tightest at the bottom of the market. When almost nobody qualifies for a loan, and when almost nobody has the required downpayment, prices will be at their lowest because demand will be small (Remember, Desire is not Demand). If you are one of those who qualify and has cash, you will get a great deal.

In the meantime, the banks are lining up bagholders to absorb the remaining market losses. There is still plenty of kool aid in the market in Irvine, and there seems to be no shortage of those with good credit and enough cash willing to buy at our inflated prices. Of course, there is also no shortage of distressed properties either, and this supply will continue to grow. Bagholders provide a useful function. If these people did not step forward to overpay for housing, the banks would be absorbing even larger losses, and our economic system would be put in even more jeopardy.

So what do you think, do you wanna be a cowboy and ride the market missile all the way to the bottom?

Today’s featured property is a recently purchased REO that has been put on the market as a quick flip. It really looks to me like the buyer got cold feet and is trying to make a quick and graceful exit from the transaction. Smart move…

219 Terra Cotta Front 219 Terra Cotta Kitchen

Asking Price: $619,000IrvineRenter

Income Requirement: $154,750

Downpayment Needed: $123,800

Monthly Equity Burn: $5,158

Purchase Price: $585,000

Purchase Date: 6/30/2008

Address: 219 Terra Cotta, Irvine, CA 92603

Beds: 3
Baths: 3
Sq. Ft.: 1,510
$/Sq. Ft.: $410
Lot Size:
Property Type: Condominium
Style: Other
Year Built: 2003
Stories: 2 Levels
Floor: 1
View: City Lights, City, Fields, Hills, Park or Green Belt, Peek-A-Boo, Has View
Area: Quail Hill
County: Orange
MLS#: S551712
Source: SoCalMLS
Status: Active
On Redfin: 1 day

New Listing (24 hours)

View View View. Corner End Unit, 3bdrm 2.5bth. Ready To Move In
Condition. Upgrades Include Granite Counters, Stainless Steel
Appliances, 5 Burner Cook-top, Hardwood Flooring, Plantation Shutters.
Very Open Kitchen To Dinning Area. This Is Not A Short Sale. Fast
Escrow Possible.

View View View. Blah, Blah, Blah.

The property records on Redfin are incorrect. They did not pick up the sale on 5/18/2005 for $787,000. The previous owners who were foreclosed on bought the property with 100% financing using a $629,600 first mortgage and a $157,400 second. That is why the bank foreclosure was for $632,123 on 5/29/2008. If this property sells in the next month, it will be the third sale in 6 months. McDonalds doesn’t flip burgers that fast.

If these people bought this property as a quick flip, I think they would have priced it higher. If this sells for its asking price, and if a 6% commission is paid, these sellers will lose almost $5,000. Why would they do this? Even if one of them is a realtor and there is only a 3% commission, there isn’t much profit in the deal. I am thinking they must have changed their minds, and they want to get out before prices drop further. These owners have $234,000 in equity in the property, so the realtor is accurate in saying this isn’t a short sale. I guess they changed their minds about being a bagholder.

I hope you have enjoyed this week at the Irvine Housing Blog. Come back next week as we
continue chronicling ‘the seventh circle of real estate hell.’ Have a great weekend.

🙂

{book}

Riding on the range,
I’ve got my hat – on,
I’ve got my boots – dusty.

I’ve got my saddle
On my horse.
He’s called….T-t-t-t-t-trigger
Of course.

I wanna be a cowboy
and you can be my cowgirl
I wanna be a cowboy
and you can be my cowgirl
I wanna be a cowboy

(woman’s voice)
Riding on the chuck wagon,
Following my man.
His name is Ted,
Can you believe that?
Camping on the prairie
Plays havoc with my hair.
Makes me feel quite dirty,
Though we all do sometimes

I Wanna Be a Cowboy — Boys Don’t Cry