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| Posted: 30 September 2007 04:56 PM |
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IAC Rental
Total Posts: 196
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15 MALLARD DRIVE, Aliso Viejo, CA 92656
List Price: $725,900
Last Sale: 10/07/04
Last Sales Price: $825,000
Bedrooms: 4
Full Baths: 2
Partial Baths: 1
Square Feet: 2,100
Lot Size: 4,512 Sq. Ft.
Year Built: 1996
Listing Date: 09/27/07
On Market: 3 days
Type: SFR
Status: ACTIVE
MLS #: S507112
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| Posted: 30 September 2007 05:12 PM |
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Custom Estate
Total Posts: 5364
Joined 2007-01-28
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ns2524,
Keep an eye on 28 Spicewood 92656. It was featured in the OCR last Sunday because it sold for $805k. The comps do not support that at all. I smell fraud and bet we will see it in the foreclosure thread by April.
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| Posted: 01 October 2007 07:02 AM |
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Starter Home
Total Posts: 620
Joined 2007-09-13
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graphrix,
You’re completely right about 28 Spicewood, beginning with the fact that the sellers were able to get $306k more than they paid for it in August ‘03. Considering there are many, many 2004 rollbacks in Aliso Viejo these days (so we can assume appreciation has been virtually 0 since then, if not negative), it seems like a pretty big stretch to believe this property shot up that far that quickly.
As for comps - 25 Spicewood (exact same size) sold one month earlier for $710k, as I’m sure you’re well aware. This one doesn’t pass the smell test at all. For what it’s worth, the closest comp that’s on the market now is asking $56k less - $749k.
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| Posted: 01 October 2007 09:37 AM |
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Custom Estate
Total Posts: 5364
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caliguy,
Did you see this one? It went back to the bank on 9/4 for $270k and is already listed for $299k. Then there is this one that went back to the bank for $632k. Of course this one is classic it has a make me move price of $1.025mil. Well the bank is going to make you move alright since they bought already for 40% off your wishing price. This one here has a minimum bid of $705k for the 10/4 auction and they paid $850k in 2004. Someone here has been drinking the Cuervo alright. They paid $425k in 2003 but they needed some MEW and the NTS is $450k. Ouch this one is losing $170k if it sells for $725k not including commission and fees from their 11/2006 price of $895k. The NTS is even higher at $766k so I don’t think the bank would take $725k.
Oh man south county is getting hammered right now. You sure have your hands full taking it on.
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| Posted: 02 October 2007 02:49 AM |
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McMansion
Total Posts: 1450
Joined 2007-07-26
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"Down, down, down…" - Alice in Wonderland
412 NORTH EARLHAM STREET, Orange
Sales History
09/21/2005— $610,000
Price Reduced: 09/08/07—$549,000 to $519,000
Price Reduced: 09/20/07—$519,000 to $499,000
Price Reduced: 10/02/07—$499,000 to $449,000
http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1077374
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| Posted: 02 October 2007 03:13 AM |
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Starter Home
Total Posts: 620
Joined 2007-09-13
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graphrix,
Thanks for the heads up on the listings…I’ll have to look into some of those to post on my blog. And, you’re absolutely right - South County is getting completely, and I mean completely slammed right now. I was surprised to see that even Laguna Beach is seeing its median price dip (if you can trust the median), so obviously the high end is not immune. No South County ZIP saw an increase in both the median and sales volume over the past month - in fact, in most areas were down on both fronts. Lake Forest and Ladera Ranch are particularly brutal right now.
I haven’t gone out to Ladera open houses for a long time, but there were a ton of places up for sale long before this mess really began, so I can only imagine what it’s like out there now. I went to some open houses in Aliso Viejo recently, and we saw just one other couple the whole afternoon.
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| Posted: 03 October 2007 12:10 AM |
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McMansion
Total Posts: 1111
Joined 2007-05-16
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The property talked about in this article is on the other side of the country (Greenwich, Conn) but it debunks the standard realtor statement that higher end properties are not affect but the housing slump.
www.cnbc.com/id/21112461
"There’s an indoor lap pool, eight-car garage and four-storey elevator. But the 26,000-sq ft, Tuscan-style home features something even more unusual in this ritzy suburb of gated estates and mansions—a $3 million discount on its price.
As the credit crisis started to shake global financial markets in August, the owners of the 22-acre estate at 309 Taconic Road in Greenwich, Connecticut, cut their price to $19 million, showing turbulence in the U.S. housing market penetrating the wealthiest strata of American society."
"But the global credit crunch is stirring caution among its newest crop of wealthly elite. Greenwich is the unofficial capital of the U.S. hedge fund boom. More than 100 of the private investment pools for the wealthy have set up in the town. That worries economist Edward Deak at Fairfield University in Connecticut.
"The hedge funds, private equity firms are taking a hit," he said.
"I’m concerned about what the mortgage meltdown is going to mean for bonus incomes coming into Connecticut in January ‘08 and also January of ‘09."
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| Posted: 03 October 2007 03:58 AM |
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McMansion
Total Posts: 1111
Joined 2007-05-16
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Another tale from a far away land (Miami). I thought the auction descriptions are interesting.
www.cnbc.com/id/21102250
"At a condo auction a few weeks ago here (Platinum Condos) about 300 people showed up but only 50 actually bid. The rest were folks from banks, hedge funds, and mortgage lenders. It’s like when more ‘industry’ shows up at a Madonna concert than actual fans. They all wanted to watch the bleeding begin and see just how fast it flowed. "
The article also stated that Miami has a three-year inventory.
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| Posted: 04 October 2007 02:25 PM |
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IAC Rental
Total Posts: 196
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These 100,000+ losses are a common place now.
25831 CHAPEL HILL DR, Lake Forest, CA 92630
Last Sale: 11/02/06
Sales Price: $715,000
List Price: $590,000
Bedrooms: 4
Full Baths: 3
Partial Baths: 0
Square Feet: 1,829
Lot Size: 5,900 Sq. Ft.
Year Built: 1977
Listing Date: 10/04/07
On Market: 0 day
Type: SFR
Status: ACTIVE
MLS #: C07146132
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| Posted: 05 October 2007 01:09 AM |
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Administrator
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| Posted: 05 October 2007 02:02 AM |
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Starter Home
Total Posts: 620
Joined 2007-09-13
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ns2524 - isn’t it crazy how common these types of losses are becoming? Another thing that is surprising me is I’ve still been finding obvious flip attempts out there. I guess they could get lucky and find a buyer…
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| Posted: 06 October 2007 05:15 AM |
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IAC Rental
Total Posts: 196
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100,000+
26632 PEPITA DRIVE, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
Last Sale: 09/15/04
Sales Price: $739,000
List Price: $634,900
Bedrooms: 3
Full Baths: 2
Partial Baths: 1
Square Feet: 1,954
Lot Size: 6,600 Sq. Ft.
Year Built: 1967
Listing Date: 10/05/07
On Market: 1 day
Type: SFR
Status: ACTIVE
MLS #: S508283
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| Posted: 06 October 2007 06:11 AM |
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IAC Rental
Total Posts: 196
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300,000+
24951 MUSTANG DRIVE, Laguna Hills, CA 92653
List Price: $1,249,900
Last Sale: 10/21/05
Sales Price: $1,500,000
Bedrooms: 4
Full Baths: 2
Partial Baths: 1
Square Feet: 2,580
Lot Size: 34,848 Sq. Ft.
Year Built: 1979
Listing Date: 10/05/07
On Market: 1 day
Type: SFR
Status: ACTIVE
MLS #: S508236
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| Posted: 06 October 2007 06:32 AM |
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IAC Rental
Total Posts: 196
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Mission Viejo, CA 92691
Last Sale: 03/07/05
Sales Price: $530,000
List Price: $449,900
Bedrooms: 3
Full Baths: 3
Partial Baths: 1
Square Feet: 1,678
Lot Size: 1,961 Sq. Ft.
Year Built: 1976
Listing Date: 10/04/07
On Market: 2 days
Type: CONDO/TH
Status: ACTIVE
MLS #: S508254
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| Posted: 07 October 2007 02:08 AM |
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McMansion
Total Posts: 1604
Joined 2007-06-06
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1 Westchester Ct, Coto de Caza
MLS#: S489068
Tract: Tanglewood
4 bedroom, 3 bath, 3-car garage, 3195 sq ft, 10,142 lot size
Purchased: 09/22/04
Purchase Price: $1,175,000
List Prices: 05/20/07 $1,199,900; 07/30/07 $1,184,900; 08/08/07 $1,150,000
<u>SOLD</u>: 10/07 $1,114,000 (5 months to sell)
LOSS assuming 5% RE Commission: $116,700 or 10%
[ Edited: 24 November 2007 05:20 PM by CalGal ]
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| Posted: 07 October 2007 02:58 AM |
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McMansion
Total Posts: 1604
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63 S Gingham St, Rancho Santa Margarita
MLS # S483560
Area: Wagon Wheel
5 bedroom, 3 bath, 2841 sq. ft, 7,100 lot sz
HOA: $50
On Market since April 2007 (6 months)
Sale History: 08/12/2005: $1,010,000; 11/19/1998: $380,000
They will be losing $340,000 If they get their current asking price of $800k and assuming 5% re commission.
<u>31% Loss</u> (and it could be worse since it hasn’t sold yet!)
Taxes have not been paid either.
<u>List Prices:</u>
04/11/07 $1,100,000
05/08/07 $1,049,000
06/07/07 $999,000
08/09/07 $925,000
08/16/07 $899,000
08/22/07 $875,000
08/29/07 $850,000
09/05/07 $825,000
09/12/07 $800,000
[ Edited: 24 November 2007 05:21 PM by CalGal ]
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| Posted: 08 October 2007 09:02 AM |
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Starter Home
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In Orange:
http://redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1100406
Last sales price: $661k
Current asking price: $480k
Loss assuming sale minus 6 percent selling costs: $209,800
Oh, and for a big loss in Coto, check this out : http://www.southoctracker.com/2007/10/225k-loser-in-coto.html
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| Posted: 08 October 2007 01:13 PM |
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McMansion
Total Posts: 1111
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That is an amazing agent. I mean there were only seven words in the description and yet he managed to misspell one of them.
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| Posted: 09 October 2007 12:50 AM |
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Custom Estate
Total Posts: 5418
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CalGal - Two more notice of defaults in Coto; one on Loam which are the Toll Brothers homes that usually go for over $2mil and one on Avena which is Los Ranchos Estates. An NOD in Los Ranchos? What is up with that? I will have to go check that out. There can’t be more than two or three homes on Avena and there may be only one.
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| Posted: 09 October 2007 05:55 AM |
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Starter Home
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Here’s a train wreck in Santa Ana… $212k loss in about 8 months if a sale at this price and 6 percent selling costs:
http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1088865
Description, my emphasis in bold: Great Property for first time buyers. Recently painted. Great loactionn close to everything. Excellent location. Garage has been converted can help with extra income.
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| Posted: 09 October 2007 06:00 AM |
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McMansion
Total Posts: 1604
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Almost half a million dollars and you only get 1 bathroom.
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| Posted: 09 October 2007 06:01 AM |
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Condo
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"Garage has been converted can help with extra income. "
Garage has been converted? To what, an ATM?
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| Posted: 09 October 2007 06:11 AM |
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McMansion
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[ Edited: 25 November 2007 02:08 AM by CalGal ]
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| Posted: 09 October 2007 06:12 AM |
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McMansion
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I wonder if it’s a legal conversion with permits and all.
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