Mcdonna1980 - 02 August 2009 04:32 AM

oh wow, saw one the homes on Victoria is for sale. Wish I had the cash.
Floral Park

More pictures of listing on www.santaanarealty.com

It’s also on the Santa Ana Register of Historical Properties list #346 as the Was House

Cameray - 02 August 2009 08:29 AM

More pictures of listing on www.santaanarealty.com

It’s also on the Santa Ana Register of Historical Properties list #346 as the Was House

Still… no interior photos, not a single one on found here. And because AI made me get out my crankypants… how hard is it to figure out what that “<a>” button does? Come on… I know many techtarded people on here who know how to link for gawdsakes. It is a simple button, it’s not like we are asking you to use freakin code here.

Disclosure: Cameray… do not take it personally. Just some dumb people have made some really dumb posts tonight, and unfortunately you are getting some of the aftermath. Sorry in advance.

graphrix - 02 August 2009 08:59 AM

Cameray - 02 August 2009 08:29 AM

More pictures of listing on www.santaanarealty.com

It’s also on the Santa Ana Register of Historical Properties list #346 as the Was House

Still… no interior photos, not a single one on found here. And because AI made me get out my crankypants… how hard is it to figure out what that “<a>” button does? Come on… I know many techtarded people on here who know how to link for gawdsakes. It is a simple button, it’s not like we are asking you to use freakin code here.

Disclosure: Cameray… do not take it personally. Just some dumb people have made some really dumb posts tonight, and unfortunately you are getting some of the aftermath. Sorry in advance.

Chill, at least she’s trying. I’m actually happy to see AI has got you all fired up again. I like this graphrix.

graphrix - 02 August 2009 08:59 AM

Cameray - 02 August 2009 08:29 AM

More pictures of listing on www.santaanarealty.com

It’s also on the Santa Ana Register of Historical Properties list #346 as the Was House

Still… no interior photos, not a single one on found here. And because AI made me get out my crankypants… how hard is it to figure out what that “<a>” button does? Come on… I know many techtarded people on here who know how to link for gawdsakes. It is a simple button, it’s not like we are asking you to use freakin code here.

Disclosure: Cameray… do not take it personally. Just some dumb people have made some really dumb posts tonight, and unfortunately you are getting some of the aftermath. Sorry in advance.

I’m computer challenged!!! I admit it!!! I want to go over to your house and you can tutor me!  Ha, ha.  I’ll try not to take offense but I’ve had a BAD week.  I just got off babysitting duty and had to deal with an 8 year old going on 11.  Maybe I’ll just read the posts in the future and not comment.

Cameray - 02 August 2009 09:09 AM

I’m computer challenged!!! I admit it!!! I want to go over to your house and you can tutor me!  Ha, ha.  I’ll try not to take offense but I’ve had a BAD week.  I just got off babysitting duty and had to deal with an 8 year old going on 11.  Maybe I’ll just read the posts in the future and not comment.

It’s been a crazy week for me too, so I will let you slide. Please don’t let my crankypants prevent you from posting comments. Hell, here is IHB 101 for you. Just know that much of what I say is tongue in cheek, and more light hearted than you might think. Just go look at my posts with IHO… that 3 car garage loving whore is really a cool guy that can take my snark well. BTW, I never want to know what color his underwear is… despite his desire to give me clues.

graphrix - 02 August 2009 09:20 AM

Cameray - 02 August 2009 09:09 AM

I’m computer challenged!!! I admit it!!! I want to go over to your house and you can tutor me!  Ha, ha.  I’ll try not to take offense but I’ve had a BAD week.  I just got off babysitting duty and had to deal with an 8 year old going on 11.  Maybe I’ll just read the posts in the future and not comment.

It’s been a crazy week for me too, so I will let you slide. Please don’t let my crankypants prevent you from posting comments. Hell, here is IHB 101 for you. Just know that much of what I say is tongue in cheek, and more light hearted than you might think. Just go look at my posts with IHO… that 3 car garage loving whore is really a cool guy that can take my snark well. BTW, I never want to know what color his underwear is… despite his desire to give me clues.

I should have added that my grandson sang Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer for me on my last day babysitting so I think he’s got you beat this week!  I plan on getting even with him though.  I think I’ll rent some really scary movie and he’ll be up all night with nightmares.  Just kidding!  I’m making myself laugh at the thought of it.

tmare - 02 August 2009 07:52 AM

graphrix - 02 August 2009 07:42 AM

tmare - 02 August 2009 05:04 AM

Paging bk. We need a little history lesson on Victoria Drive. I’m sure it has a pretty OC significant history.

All those homes have cool stories, especially since they were built before the depression. BK’s pager must be broken… between me, tmare, and Mc80 his pager would be blowing up to know the info on this home. Oh… and I’m sure Cayci pinged him too. Do tell BK… we know you know the story on this home.

BTW… WTF?! One picture! Lazy Santa Ana Realty turds… they need a lesson from the pic master known as Deuce. For the love of gawd, at least get a shot of the kitchen, living room, and master bedroom. Really… at $1.1mil. you can afford a photographer to be out there before you list the home.

Just FYI for those not familiar, Victoria Drive is the premiere location in Floral Park. The street has a “Beverly Hills” type of feel to it. It is without a doubt THE street in Floral Park. The lack of pics of this house is unforgivable, the local agent who lives on the street and lost this listing (and another the other on the street) is furious right now, even though I don’t particularly like her, I know she would have had pictures posted immediately.

There are three homes that appear to be almost identical in their exterior to this one in Floral Park, two are for sale (the other is on North Park) and one has been owned by my in-laws for over 30 years. In fact, all three are even painted the same exterior colors. These are pretty rare finds in Floral Park, the fact that there are 3 homes for sale on Victoria is significant. Any loan info on this particular one, graphrix?

The owner of this property lives in Oceanside of all places.  The property was purchased on 6/18/91 for an unknown amount however the accessed value $102,540 and there hasn’t been a loan on this property since it was acquired.

The Berkenstock Mansion in Placentia

And just for IHO, the 4 car garage

usctrojanman29 - 02 August 2009 10:21 AM

tmare - 02 August 2009 07:52 AM

graphrix - 02 August 2009 07:42 AM

tmare - 02 August 2009 05:04 AM

Paging bk. We need a little history lesson on Victoria Drive. I’m sure it has a pretty OC significant history.

All those homes have cool stories, especially since they were built before the depression. BK’s pager must be broken… between me, tmare, and Mc80 his pager would be blowing up to know the info on this home. Oh… and I’m sure Cayci pinged him too. Do tell BK… we know you know the story on this home.

BTW… WTF?! One picture! Lazy Santa Ana Realty turds… they need a lesson from the pic master known as Deuce. For the love of gawd, at least get a shot of the kitchen, living room, and master bedroom. Really… at $1.1mil. you can afford a photographer to be out there before you list the home.

Just FYI for those not familiar, Victoria Drive is the premiere location in Floral Park. The street has a “Beverly Hills” type of feel to it. It is without a doubt THE street in Floral Park. The lack of pics of this house is unforgivable, the local agent who lives on the street and lost this listing (and another the other on the street) is furious right now, even though I don’t particularly like her, I know she would have had pictures posted immediately.

There are three homes that appear to be almost identical in their exterior to this one in Floral Park, two are for sale (the other is on North Park) and one has been owned by my in-laws for over 30 years. In fact, all three are even painted the same exterior colors. These are pretty rare finds in Floral Park, the fact that there are 3 homes for sale on Victoria is significant. Any loan info on this particular one, graphrix?

The owner of this property lives in Oceanside of all places.  The property was purchased on 6/18/91 for an unknown amount however the accessed value $102,540 and there hasn’t been a loan on this property since it was acquired.

That may explain the lack of pics.  The owner may not want it advertised that the house is vacant, lest some enterprising person w/o a roof offer to “babysit” it in the meantime w/o permission.

Re: Tmare’s comment.  My guess is that the other agent also isn’t thrilled with steep price reduction on this one, because she lives on the same street. 

The Victoria houses are open today from 1-4. Anyone down for a little excursion?

Mcdonna1980 - 02 August 2009 06:12 PM

The Victoria houses are open today from 1-4. Anyone down for a little excursion?

We are heading over there today.

Cayci has a lot of photos… including many interior shots. Now… we know why they didn’t post any interior photos of 2019. Ouch… bring your contractor and a lot of money… it’s going to cost you to open all those cans of worms.

graphrix - 02 August 2009 11:18 PM

Cayci has a lot of photos… including many interior shots. Now… we know why they didn’t post any interior photos of 2019. Ouch… bring your contractor and a lot of money… it’s going to cost you to open all those cans of worms.

I popped in on my way home from my office. Dear Gawd! It looked like someone one hadn’t lived there since 1970. Even with that orange carpet, the house was still better than 99% of the homes in the OC. I didn’t go in the Gone with the Wind house. Did you?

Mcdonna1980 - 02 August 2009 11:29 PM

graphrix - 02 August 2009 11:18 PM

Cayci has a lot of photos… including many interior shots. Now… we know why they didn’t post any interior photos of 2019. Ouch… bring your contractor and a lot of money… it’s going to cost you to open all those cans of worms.

I popped in on my way home from my office. Dear Gawd! It looked like someone one hadn’t lived there since 1970. Even with that orange carpet, the house was still better than 99% of the homes in the OC. I didn’t go in the Gone with the Wind house. Did you?

Guess that explains why the owner lives in Oceanside.  So is this a fixer or is it just seriously outdated inside?

The house belonged to an elderly couple. The husband was a doctor who passed away 2 years ago the wife moved to a senior care facility. The house was transferred to an entity who has no intention of keeping it or to renovate it. The exterior was recently painted before the listing. This home has a floor plan that flow well and packed with a lot of footage almost 5,000 sf. This house has 3 stories excluding a basement. With proper renovation this house could be restored to its former beauty. The previous expansion did not ruin this home. The attic rafters sustained water and possibly fungus damages over the years but does not appear to be structurally weakened. The simple front to back gable roof saved this house from water penetration the most damaging element for all vintage homes.

The formal rooms are very good size with ample ceiling height and good proportion. However all horizontal, vertical and ceiling surfaces need extensive cosmetic work. Kitchen was redone several decades ago and is crying for renovation. The yard and accessory structures also needed help as well. The rear is up against an 3 story office building monstrosity that will need a bamboo forest to shield the yard and house from the office view.

This house is not in a good defensible position because 3 adjoining commercial properties meant burglars with ladders could easily hop the wall and gain entry through the rear. It is easy to tell when the occupants are not home from surveillance at the rear.

This home has good potential but will need a big budget for renovation and additional cost for the rear yard.

bkshopr - 03 August 2009 06:29 AM

The house belonged to an elderly couple. The husband was a doctor who passed away 2 years ago the wife moved to a senior care facility. The house was transferred to an entity who has no intention of keeping it or to renovate it. The exterior was recently painted before the listing. This home has a floor plan that flow well and packed with a lot of footage almost 5,000 sf. This house has 3 stories excluding a basement. With proper renovation this house could be restored to its former beauty. The previous expansion did not ruin this home. The attic rafters sustained water and possibly fungus damages over the years but does not appear to be structurally weakened. The simple front to back gable roof saved this house from water penetration the most damaging element for all vintage homes.

The formal rooms are very good size with ample ceiling height and good proportion. However all horizontal, vertical and ceiling surfaces need extensive cosmetic work. Kitchen was redone several decades ago and is crying for renovation. The yard and accessory structures also needed help as well. The rear is up against an 3 story office building monstrosity that will need a bamboo forest to shield the yard and house from the office view.

This house is not in a good defensible position because 3 adjoining commercial properties meant burglars with ladders could easily hop the wall and gain entry through the rear. It is easy to tell when the occupants are not home from surveillance at the rear.

This home has good potential but will need a big budget for renovation and additional cost for the rear yard.

Interesting…so given all this information, how much does this home end up selling for when the dust settles?

usctrojanman29 - 03 August 2009 06:44 AM

bkshopr - 03 August 2009 06:29 AM

The house belonged to an elderly couple. The husband was a doctor who passed away 2 years ago the wife moved to a senior care facility. The house was transferred to an entity who has no intention of keeping it or to renovate it. The exterior was recently painted before the listing. This home has a floor plan that flow well and packed with a lot of footage almost 5,000 sf. This house has 3 stories excluding a basement. With proper renovation this house could be restored to its former beauty. The previous expansion did not ruin this home. The attic rafters sustained water and possibly fungus damages over the years but does not appear to be structurally weakened. The simple front to back gable roof saved this house from water penetration the most damaging element for all vintage homes.

The formal rooms are very good size with ample ceiling height and good proportion. However all horizontal, vertical and ceiling surfaces need extensive cosmetic work. Kitchen was redone several decades ago and is crying for renovation. The yard and accessory structures also needed help as well. The rear is up against an 3 story office building monstrosity that will need a bamboo forest to shield the yard and house from the office view.

This house is not in a good defensible position because 3 adjoining commercial properties meant burglars with ladders could easily hop the wall and gain entry through the rear. It is easy to tell when the occupants are not home from surveillance at the rear.

This home has good potential but will need a big budget for renovation and additional cost for the rear yard.

Interesting…so given all this information, how much does this home end up selling for when the dust settles?

$200/sf at this point. Factoring in another $50/sf for renovation will bring the grand total to $250/sf for a house on Victoria. The site is not ideal backing up against the office properties and should be a negative premium. Because of the poor interior condition many may not be motivated emotionally thus allow them to make rational decision unlike the recent Ivy phenomenon. I suspect neighbors will likely be the one who most likely purchase this home. Outsiders do not understand the idiosyncrasy being on Victoria and having the imagination to visualize the potential of this home similar to recent similar size houses seen on home tours.

I think the current price is fair.

bkshopr - 03 August 2009 07:52 AM

usctrojanman29 - 03 August 2009 06:44 AM

bkshopr - 03 August 2009 06:29 AM

The house belonged to an elderly couple. The husband was a doctor who passed away 2 years ago the wife moved to a senior care facility. The house was transferred to an entity who has no intention of keeping it or to renovate it. The exterior was recently painted before the listing. This home has a floor plan that flow well and packed with a lot of footage almost 5,000 sf. This house has 3 stories excluding a basement. With proper renovation this house could be restored to its former beauty. The previous expansion did not ruin this home. The attic rafters sustained water and possibly fungus damages over the years but does not appear to be structurally weakened. The simple front to back gable roof saved this house from water penetration the most damaging element for all vintage homes.

The formal rooms are very good size with ample ceiling height and good proportion. However all horizontal, vertical and ceiling surfaces need extensive cosmetic work. Kitchen was redone several decades ago and is crying for renovation. The yard and accessory structures also needed help as well. The rear is up against an 3 story office building monstrosity that will need a bamboo forest to shield the yard and house from the office view.

This house is not in a good defensible position because 3 adjoining commercial properties meant burglars with ladders could easily hop the wall and gain entry through the rear. It is easy to tell when the occupants are not home from surveillance at the rear.

This home has good potential but will need a big budget for renovation and additional cost for the rear yard.

Interesting…so given all this information, how much does this home end up selling for when the dust settles?

$200/sf at this point. Factoring in another $50/sf for renovation will bring the grand total to $250/sf for a house on Victoria. The site is not ideal backing up against the office properties and should be a negative premium. Because of the poor interior condition many may not be motivated emotionally thus allow them to make rational decision unlike the recent Ivy phenomenon. I suspect neighbors will likely be the one who most likely purchase this home. Outsiders do not understand the idiosyncrasy being on Victoria and having the imagination to visualize the potential of this home similar to recent similar size houses seen on home tours.

I think the current price is fair.

Is there a flip opportunity with his home?  e.g. if you put in $50-$60/sf in renovations and repairs, could you sell the home for around $300/sf?  If so, let’s pool up some IHB money and roll up our sleeves and get to work. 

What’s that about no interior photos of 2019 Victoria?

I went through some rooms twice so a few pictures are out of order.

And I did the Tara house (2225 Victoria) while I was at it.

What on earth are the green fruits growing in the back?  The ones I took close-ups of?

caycifish - 03 August 2009 08:18 AM

And I did the Tara house (2225 Victoria) while I was at it.

What on earth are the green fruits growing in the back?  The ones I took close-ups of?

I especially dig the toilets, especially the pink one.  haha

caycifish - 03 August 2009 08:11 AM

What’s that about no interior photos of 2019 Victoria?

I went through some rooms twice so a few pictures are out of order.

It looks like some rooms and bathrooms are in very good condition while other areas of the home are screaming for some renovation work.

bkshopr - 03 August 2009 06:29 AM

The attic rafters sustained water and possibly fungus damages over the years but does not appear to be structurally weakened. The simple front to back gable roof saved this house from water penetration the most damaging element for all vintage homes.

What did you make of the crack and bowing in the upstairs bathroom?

Typically when it looks like that… the big crack and serious bowing… it means that a leak from the pipes have caused the wood to soften up and when there is weight on it it will crack like that. But… it didn’t feel soft… I was that kid in the adult sized body jumping up in down in the bathroom.

Anyway, we do agree on the $50 a sqft., as I told Cayci it would require about $200k of work, but I would want a $50k can of worm buffer after I saw the upstairs bathroom. This house has really great bones, and with the right contractor it could be a beauty of house. Especially if you could install a 40 foot high electrical fence in the back to… um… keep the squirrels away from the avocado tree you plan on planting there.

Oh… and when we were there, there were about 40 people there. One couple was Chinese, yes this cracker can understand most of the differences in the Asian languages, so I asked them why SA and not Irvine? They said Ivy sucks, bad feng shui and too many fours in the prices… plus we are not stupid, the costs to buy at Tamarisk or Andover make them a better financial decision. This home here in SA has real value, and will be good for many years, not fall apart like Ivy.

I agree the location being next to the office building was a huge negative. There were a few youths peering into the backyard when I was there. Has that side of the street had problems with break ins?

tmare - 02 August 2009 08:13 AM

Funny story that illustrates the differences in the market today.

My in-laws received a knock on the door 3 years ago. A man wanted to purchase their Floral Park home (very similar to the one M80 posted). He offered 2 million cash and became extremely frustrated and angry with my father-in-law’s insistence that it was not for sale. The one for sale now is on a street that is considered to be much more desirable and it is offered at 1.1 mil.

That type of situation (where somebody out of the blue offers way too much for a property, a business, a classic car, whatever, when you aren’t even trying to sell it) is great, if you are willing to sell.  They probably could have countered with $2.5 million and the guy would have taken it-he was clearly emotionally attached to the house.  Of course, that’s assuming you are willing to part with whatever it is, which your in-laws weren’t.