graphrix - 23 February 2009 10:51 AM

Have another drink, then you will pass out and wake up tomorrow and realize how ridiculous you sound.

You know it - 4-5 gallons a week of the hard stuff!

Whole milk FTW!

WINEX - 24 February 2009 07:16 AM

stepping_up - 24 February 2009 06:46 AM

Exactly… which party has been in control for the last 8 years that led us to where we are today?

The Democrats had a majority in the Senate in 2001 and 2002.  Though technically the Republicans regained the majority in 2003 (through 2006), when you look at the liberal voting records of people like Olympia Snow, Arlen Spector and others, the liberals still had the stronger voice.

The Republicans did have a small majority in the House from 2001 through 2006.

From 2006 through today, the Democrats have had a majority in both the House and Senate.

Of course the Executive Branch was led by Republicans from 2001 through the beginning of 2009.

But that has absolutely nothing to do with where we are today. (Assuming here you are talking about the economy)

Are you confused about the roles of the Executive and the Legislative Branches?

Or is your confusion just related to the cause of the economic problems this country faces?

My confusion is more around why you would attempt to blame the Dems (look, I know a lot of them really suck) and defend your party for where we are today.  I’m not just talking about the economy… I"m talking our two wars, our energy strategy, the state of our infrastructure, how the vets are treated, etc….

stepping_up - 24 February 2009 07:33 AM

WINEX - 24 February 2009 07:16 AM

stepping_up - 24 February 2009 06:46 AM

Exactly… which party has been in control for the last 8 years that led us to where we are today?

The Democrats had a majority in the Senate in 2001 and 2002.  Though technically the Republicans regained the majority in 2003 (through 2006), when you look at the liberal voting records of people like Olympia Snow, Arlen Spector and others, the liberals still had the stronger voice.

The Republicans did have a small majority in the House from 2001 through 2006.

From 2006 through today, the Democrats have had a majority in both the House and Senate.

Of course the Executive Branch was led by Republicans from 2001 through the beginning of 2009.

But that has absolutely nothing to do with where we are today. (Assuming here you are talking about the economy)

Are you confused about the roles of the Executive and the Legislative Branches?

Or is your confusion just related to the cause of the economic problems this country faces?

My confusion is more around why you would attempt to blame the Dems (look, I know a lot of them really suck) and defend your party for where we are today.  I’m not just talking about the economy… I"m talking our two wars, our energy strategy, the state of our infrastructure, how the vets are treated, etc….

I know this may be difficult for you to comprehend, but I blame the Islamo fascists for the war we are engaged in.  (BTW, there is only one active war going on that I am aware of.  There are multiple fronts in the war, but there is only one war)

And I find the way that liberals treat the brave men and women who serve our country absolutely deplorable.

As for the energy strategy, are you saying that this problem has just arisen in the last 8 years?  Furthermore, are you so confused about the role of government that you think that the Executive Branch is capable of solving the problem? 

Allow me to clear some of the fog that is perpetually circulating inside your head.

Despite any vague campaign promises that you may be naive enough to believe, $150 billion in government funding over 10 years is a true pittance.  US oil consumption is about 21 million barrels a day.  Even at the current price of $38 per barrel, this comes out to $798 million a day.  Without even considering natural gas, nuclear energy, or alternative fuels (defined as energy sources that no one uses), we spend $291.3 billion a year on oil.  Unimaginable riches await the person or company that can either find more sources of oil, or find energy sources that are cost competitive with oil.  A small federal subsidy of $15 billion a year is meaningless.  If an answer is out there, the private sector has amble reward to find that answer.

But those facts not withstanding, energy problems are nothing new.  I remember odd/even gas rationing and lines from when I was a kid.  Of course the problem wasn’t that there was a shortage of oil.  The problem was that the government set price caps on oil and there was a shortage of oil available for the government mandated price.  (There’s a lesson in there that applies to current problems as well.  The markets are more powerful than governments.  Any attempt to manipulate free markets ends up being an expensive lesson in failure)

You two dated in high school, didn’t you?

jhammons01 - 24 February 2009 07:33 AM

RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

“Got Milk” apparently found this cite:

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm

Rule 4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”

http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/forums/viewthread/4479/P25/

jhammons01 - 24 February 2009 04:09 AM

I buy 4-6 Gallons of Milk per week…..not ONE last week. They are $5.36 if you purchase two at the same time.

Rule 3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.”
Rule 8. “Keep the pressure on.”

Ralphs has a deal.  4 1/2 gallons for $5 as a mix and match if you use the Ralphs Card

http://ralphs.inserts2online.com/customer_Frame.jsp?divID=703&drpStoreID=00068

Vons has a deal.  $1.99/gal.  if you buy two.

Lucerne® Milk
1.99
Gallon. 2%, 1% or Fat Free.
EVERYDAY LOW PRICE Must Buy 2. At checkstand, first item will scan at regular price, second item will reflect savings.

Price Valid 2/18/09 - 2/24/09

http://albertsons.shoplocal.com/albertsons/default.aspx?action=browsecategoryl2&storeid=2408449&featuredcategorydropdown=2:119334&CatTreeID=119378&SortBy=3

Albertson’s has two gallons for four bucks.  You need a card to get it.

All major SoCal chains have milk for $2 a gallon. 

jhammons01 - 24 February 2009 07:33 AM

RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

Rule 7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.”
Got Milk’s overuse of “Rule 5”.

jhammons01 - 24 February 2009 03:45 PM

ah, so you found Alynsky’s rules for radicals.

sound familiar? You live them, along with ad homeniem.

you are no more “centered” that Rush Limbaugh is. You are good little liberal…of course you proclaim that you are a “progressive” or a “Libertarian”

I could care less what you say you are, your actions define you as a “good little Liberal”

What? You say you aren’t?.....prove it

jhammons01 - 24 February 2009 04:54 PM

^^My work is done here…....

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/health/4575624/detail.html

Is Too Much Milk A Bad Thing?
Some Kids May Be Gaining Weight

BOSTON—The dairy industry has put a lot of money behind an ad campaign pushing milk to help you lose weight.

Heather Unruh Reports On Study
NewsCenter 5’s Heather Unruh reported Monday that a new study led by researchers from Harvard and Brigham and Women’s Hospital finds too much milk has the opposite effect—especially for kids.

jhammons01 - 24 February 2009 03:45 PM

ah, so you found Alynsky’s rules for radicals.

No, I found Alinsky.  Who is Alynsky?

sound familiar? You live them, along with ad homeniem.

Rule 5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”.

you are no more “centered” that Rush Limbaugh is. You are good little liberal…of course you proclaim that you are a “progressive” or a “Libertarian”

Rule 5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”

I could care less what you say you are, your actions define you as a “good little Liberal”

Rule 9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”

What? You say you aren’t?.....prove it

Rule 3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.”

http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/forums/viewthread/3243/

When David Brooks and my pinko commie ass are in lock step agreement, the world is in a bad, bad, bad place.

jhammons01 - 24 February 2009 05:19 PM

^^this has what to do with the Topic??? Other than your attempt to deflect from the Original Topic and the Original statement….I could care less about that article

But let’s digress, you’ve spent four days on this Milk price issue started a completely different thread, all in some strange attempt to discredit me.

The truth of the matter is you spent three days getting totally schooled on your Repost claim, so much so that you had to finally apologize in order to keep from looking like a complete douche.

Despite the numerous credible sources I posted stating that the average price of a Gallon of milk is ~$4…you continue to try to post shit from weekly sale fliers as if that counters the USDA National average published prices….

Give it up…this is too easy. Now, you’ve moved to posting pop up pictures as if you’ve done something.

You’ve started a topic on the price of milk…...This one is “not” about milk despite the tantrum you’ve thrown herein…...

Rule #2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people. When an action or tactic is outside the experience of the people, the result is confusion, fear and retreat…. [and] the collapse of communication.”

jhammons01 - 24 February 2009 05:27 PM

The cost of milk at the supermarket has declined only slightly as retailers have been slow to adjust their prices. Based on a USDA survey of retailers in 30 U.S. cities, the average price of a gallon of whole milk was $3.67 in December, down 25 cents from its summer peak.

Nevermind that all SoCal chains have milk for $2 a gallon or less.  Never let the facts conflict with a good story.