I am not having big issues with my son. I was using his grades as an example at the time.
Lets take 100 parents of teenagers and assume the have all given the same talk you did. I have had the raincoat speech as well.
However up to 15% of the time the raincoat fails or hormones get the best of a well raised teenager. Now that parent is an Epic Failure.
I can’t agree with that. BLT if your son did have premarital sex and didn’t get a girl pregnant great. That doesnt mean you are a better parent then the person that had the sme speech and a condom failed.
I personally know someone with one ovary that was on birthcontrol and she got pregant. They were going to name the baby houdini.
You are a failure as a parent if your like Sarah Palin and preach abstinence
all the while letting your teens “Sleep Together” in your home.
And your a failure as a parent if your children have unprotected sex resulting in
an unplanned pregnancy.
And your a VERY UNLUCKY failed Parent if your child gets pregnant while having protected
sex or while taking birth control. I think the percentage is like under 5%.
So your talking 1 in 20 odds. Bottom line is accountability. If the kids get pregnant
your a dog. Just get over it.
It seems as though you and vas opinion is based on making Palin look like an idiot.
Up to 15% of the time condom’s fail if used incorrectly. I am sure that there are millions of teenagers that have unprotected sex no matter what their parents say and teach them and they dodge a bullet. Ran out of raincoats and decided to go out in the rain anyway. That is part of being a stupid teenager.
If you want to condem Palin feel free.
You could raise a tramp but as long as she doesn’t get pregnant you are not an epic failure.
I think Vas said it before about if this were Obama’s daughters the press would have a field day. I have a feeling if it were Obama’s daughters you would skew closer to my opinion.
More than three-quarters of teen girls who have lost their virginity say they’ve engaged in sex without a condom and most moms are in the dark about it, a survey from Seventeen and O, The Oprah Magazine finds. Fifty-six percent of the girls who are no longer virgins said they’ve had sex without any form of birth control and two-thirds of them (66 percent) kept it a secret from their mothers.
Again the best a parent can do is have the talk but it doesn’t absolutely insure the use of birth control.
By age 12, 12 percent of students had already engaged in vaginal sex, 7.9 percent in oral sex, 6.5 percent in anal sex and 4 percent in all three types of intercourse, researchers found.
As long as these 12 year old’s don’t get pregnant they have great parents!
So it looks like Brisol and Levi were part of that three quarters that engaged in sex without a condom or fifty six percent that used on birth control.
I can’t respond to any of the other crap TR posted right now, but I am disgusted at him as a fellow human being.
UMMM your numbers are almost identicle to mine.
I mean on yours 14 woman out of 100 get pregnant with typical use of a condom and 15 on mine but really I think that would be more of a slight sampling difference.
On yours birth control typical is 5% mine is 8%.
Most of yours are very close to mine. So again you found a slight variation and your stats must be right.
I think most samplings have at least a 1-2% pls or minus.
One skews more toward your post one toward mine. Either way the biggest variation is on the pill by about 3%. So I doubt my numbers are bogus.
You are not high on my list of favorite humans either. I think your opinion about women being floozies and parents being failures is tainted by your distaste for Palin. Or you feel morally superior to the rest of the world because you didn’t have a child out of wedlock.
10) Last September, a skit on Saturday Night Live suggested incest in the Palin family. “What about the husband?” asked a mock Times reporter. “You know he’s doing those daughters. I mean, come on. It’s Alaska!” No outrage. Sarah Palin appeared on the show one month later in late October.
I really think she can fly solo on that one. And noone is trying to make her LOOK like an idiot - she already IS an idiot.
The Media has done a great job making the Republicans look like idiots by splashing their missteps across the news on a regular basis.
We are all human beings and what is funny to me is when President Obama was on the View he asked a simple question about his reverend. His response was how would you feel if the five stupidest things you ever said were put into a 30 second spot and played over and over. That is what is happening to the Republicans.
Obama tries to use a window as a door.
Obama banging his head.
President Obama Quote from a visit on Leno.
“I’ve been practicing bowling. I bowled a 129. It was like the Special Olympics or something.”
Obama bowed to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia at a G-20 meeting in London. (If Palin did this we would call her an idiot and use this to further the point)
Then there is the issue of President Obama almost always using a teleprompter. If that were a Republican candidate (or Palin) that needed a teleprompter almost every time they speak that would probably be used to prove they were stupid. Sure Palin is an idiot she can’t even speak for herself she always uses a teleprompter, or she is such an idiot she can’t remember a speech she has to read it off a teleprompter all the time.
None of these missteps by President Obama have been splashed across the headlines. Don’t seem to be big news at all.
You can spin almost anything any way you want it doesn’t make it true.
Again I am not trying to say Obama is stupid but there seems to be a huge double standard as to how incidents and blunders are perceived based solely on what the party affiliation of the person making the mistake is.
Your still trying to act like the election never happened.
A majority of voters in this country have made the decision.
And for some reason you still want to banter about the players in that decision.
The Election is over. Republicans got slaughtered at the poles.
I know its all about the media. Fox News should be our only media outlet
thats authorized for viewing. All the rest is left wing propoganda.
Now as far as the Republicans doing stupid things. Just listen to Dick Cheney.
The stupid old fart should just keep his mouth shut. Again. Game over. Nobody cares.
Then we have Rush Limbaugh calling the supreme court nominee a Racist. Priceless.
For some reason all the Republicans have left is “The Base”. Your basic bible thumping,
gun owning, anti abortion white middle aged voter who generally lives in the rural
parts of Southern Mid America.
Until the GOP starts looking at getting some fresh faces as far as voters.
The game will be over for a long time.
Your still trying to act like the election never happened.
Not true at all. I fully grasp that President Obama won th election
A majority of voters in this country have made the decision.
And for some reason you still want to banter about the players in that decision.
I didn’t start the thread about Palin or Cheney but I do oppose some of the views presented.
The Election is over. Republicans got slaughtered at the poles.
I know its all about the media. Fox News should be our only media outlet
thats authorized for viewing. All the rest is left wing propoganda.
I don’t know that all the rest of the Media is left wing propoganda but they seem to skew left.
Like you pointed out to get a conservative view it would almost require you watch
fox news and if you do then you are deemd a right wing whacko and everything
they say on that channel is sour grapes.
Now as far as the Republicans doing stupid things. Just listen to Dick Cheney.
The stupid old fart should just keep his mouth shut. Again. Game over. Nobody cares.
My point exactly both republicans and democrats do stupid things. Nobody is immune and
doing a stupid thing doesn’t prove you an idiot.
Then we have Rush Limbaugh calling the supreme court nominee a Racist. Priceless.
“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”
You know she may not be racist but this statement could be viewed as a racist statement.
“I would hope that a wise white male with the richness of his experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a Latina woman who hasn’t lived that life.” I switchted the latina woman with white male. I would think that many people would view this as a racist view point.
I am again not calling Sotomayor racist just that staement could be construed that way. It isn’t a stretch to make that statement.
Until the GOP starts looking at getting some fresh faces as far as voters.
The game will be over for a long time.
I agree I think that Palin, Cheney, Rush will fade to the background sooner or later.
It would also help if they could get some coverage outside of Fox news and if anyone besides Fox news would run anything that was remotely critical of the Dems.
It would also help if they could get some coverage outside of Fox news and if anyone besides Fox news would run anything that was remotely critical of the Dems.
You’re kidding, right?
I have today’s NYTimes in front of me, and there are three articles critical of Dems articles on healthcare, Iran, and Isreal.
Maybe you are complaining that they aren’t being as critical as the right wing wackjobs at Fox are of the Dems?
It would also help if they could get some coverage outside of Fox news and if anyone besides Fox news would run anything that was remotely critical of the Dems.
You’re kidding, right?
I have today’s NYTimes in front of me, and there are three articles critical of Dems articles on healthcare, Iran, and Isreal.
Maybe you are complaining that they aren’t being as critical as the right wing wackjobs at Fox are of the Dems?
No I was exagerating. I should have said “it would also help if the main stream media was more unbiased then they are today. The Left and the democrats get ABC, NBC, CBS, Oprah, All except one of the woman on the view and etc.
The conservatives get Fox news and they are written of as right wing wack jobs.
There’s a material difference between making mistakes when you speak/open doors and being cannon fodder because you truly are not qualified for the job. Hey, look! It’s Sarah Palin – unqualified, and unable to speak in complete sentences about stuff that isn’t trivial to the office she’s running for.
Lest anyone think I’m taking potshots at current/former female Mayors, here’s a candidate I know personally who is way more qualified that Sarah Palin for any elected office.
It’s Sarah Palin – unqualified, and unable to speak in complete sentences about stuff that isn’t trivial to the office she’s running for.
The great thing is McCains ticket with Palin as the VP was defeated by the Obama ticket so we don’t have to worry. I have actully seen some interviews where Palin does speak in complete sentences about stuff that isn’t trivial to the office she “RAN” for. She is no longer running for anything.
It appears as though the democrats had some concern on the VP candidate as well during the campaign. There was a hugely popular candidate that was being considered as a VP candidate.
After several days of Bill and Hillary Clinton floating the idea of a joint ticket with rival Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton chief spokesman Howard Wolfson declared Monday that Clinton does not consider Obama qualified to be vice president.
[...]
“We do not believe at this point that Sen. Obama has passed that key commander in chief test,” Wolfson said. Later, he added that failure to pass that his failure to pass that test would disqualify him as a vice presidential pick, since a vice president must be prepared to step into the presidency at a moment’s notice.
“Sen. Clinton will not choose any candidate who has not at the time of choosing passed the national security threshold, period,” Wolfson said.
Ouch
Here is what Obama says about experience because he agrees with you about knowing what you are doing.
Edited to add;
I really didn’t expect a Republican candidate to win the presidential election. I fully expected Hillary Clinton to be the POTUS at this point and was quite suprised that Obama won the Dem Primary over Clinton. I was suprised because of Obama’s complete and total lack of experience.. No Vas you like to focus on Palin and her inteligence and her lack of expereince. Can you explain why Obama’s complete lack of experience didn’t bother you and still doesn’t. Lets not focus on Palin as BLT put it they lost lets get over it.
A 2004 Fox Interview ? More like a sound bite. That was 5 years ago.
How much time doing YouTube mining did that take ?
Seems a little out of context as we didnt get the question asked either.
Are reaching for straws or what ?
I am just going to flat out say it again.
THE ELECTION IS OVER. GET OVER IT.
A 2004 Fox Interview ? More like a sound bite. That was 5 years ago.
How much time doing YouTube mining did that take ?
Seems a little out of context as we didnt get the question asked either.
Are reaching for straws or what ?
I am just going to flat out say it again.
THE ELECTION IS OVER. GET OVER IT.
What the????? Read the last sentence in my post.
Lets not focus on Palin as BLT put it they lost lets get over it.
You two seem to be fixated on old news Sarah Palin. You two seem to be fixated on slamming Cheney.
I think the confusion is that you and No Vas think I am slamming Obama.
Let me be clear I am slamming you and No Vas for being hypocrites.
Both you and No Vas continue to impune a person that lost. Many of the arguements you use to impune the “loser” could also be used to discredit the candidate you two think is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
You can say Palin is an idiot because… then I say he what about when Obama… which looks a lot like what Palin did. Well that is different because Palin is an idiot and Obama isn’t. OHHH I get it.
So I have finally figured it out. Both you and No Vas think all Republicans are idiots and you can use anything you would like to prove that. If a Democrat does the same thing it is different because the Democrats aren’t idiots.
If that train of thought is challenged then it is sour grapes. I have it now.
Democrats = Good, Intelligent people.
Republicans = Bad, Stupid people.
If Democrat does something that may disprove the above that doesn’t mean anything.
If a Republican does something that may disprove the above that doesn’t mean anything.
Edited to Add.
Meanwhile how is Iran/Isreal/Korea/The Economy/Afghanastan/Pay as you go/Cabinet appointmets
. I’m so mad at him for giving her this moment in the press. What a stupid, poorly planned joke.
