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      <title>The Hidden Homeless</title>
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      <published>2009-11-20T09:16:27Z</published>
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        <p>I happened to catch this last night on So Cal Connected.&nbsp; It&#8217;s about middle class people who ended up homeless.&nbsp; </p>

<p><a href="http://kcet.org/socal/2009/11/hidden-homeless-mortgage-scams-steve-lopez.html#">Hidden Homeless</a></p>

<p>The first couple&#8217;s problems were a typical case of overspending.&nbsp; They moved up to a bigger house they couldn&#8217;t afford then began pulling money out.&nbsp; At one point he said something that was very honest and I have always known and espoused whenever I&#8217;m asked advice.&nbsp;  He said that they were never realistic about their situation in life and led more of a &#8220;wishful thinking&#8221; lifestyle - hoping that things would always work out.&nbsp; He made this realization too late, but at least he finally &#8220;got it&#8221;.&nbsp; Fortunately, his epiphany was something I&#8217;ve known all my life.&nbsp; You have to be realist about your education level, future earning capabilities, lifestyle, etc. before you plunk down big bucks to buy a home that you may not always be able to afford.&nbsp; Do you want to be in your 60&#8217;s and still paying down a mortgage?&nbsp;  What if you purchase a home dependent on two incomes and then your spouse decides to stay home with the kids?&nbsp; What if your high-paying job goes away?&nbsp; So many people do not ask themselves these questions.&nbsp;  Humility is not a bad thing.</p>

<p>BTW, I had trouble with this video in IE.&nbsp; Had to use FireFox.
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    <entry>
      <title>From Calculated Risk &#45; Mortgages Delinquencies</title>
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      <published>2009-11-19T15:43:40Z</published>
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        <p><a href="http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/11/mortgage-delinquencies-and-foreclosures.html">Mortgage Delinquencies and Foreclosures</a></p>

<p><a href="http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/11/mba-forecasts-foreclosures-to-peak-in.html">MBA Forecasts Foreclosures to Peak in 2011</a></p>

<p>&#8220;The problem is moving to prime loans, including fixed rate prime loans, and also FHA loans. &#8220;We are seeing the first hit on the weaker prime fixed borrowers.&#8221;</p>

<p>&#8220;Brinkmann expects foreclosures to possibly peak in 2011 (last quarter he said late 2010). He changed the forecast for two reasons: he expects unemployment to stay fairly high, and he thinks the prime borrowers will hang on before defaulting, and all the foreclosure moratoria will delay foreclosures - a longer trailing effect than usual.&#8221;</p>

<p>&#8220;Although the increases have slowed, about 40% of subprime loans are delinquent or in foreclosure. &#8220;</p>

<p>You should go take a look at the graphs, they really show the 90-day lates.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t care what you call it, just be aware it&#8217;s there.</p>

<p>&#8220;Clearly most of the increase was in the 90 day and in foreclosure buckets. And that is why the modification programs are so important.&#8221;
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      <title>Celebrities in forclosure</title>
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      <published>2009-09-10T15:23:16Z</published>
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        <p>I thought I would start a fun tally of our well to do friends who find themselves in a real estate pickle</p>

<p>I&#8217;ll dispense with the easy ones we all know:</p>

<p>•Marion Jones (athlete - track and field)<br />
•Jose Canseco (athlete - baseball)<br />
•Michael Jackson (entertainer - music)<br />
•Latrell Sprewell (athlete - basketball)<br />
•Aretha Franklin (entertainer - music)<br />
•Ed McMahon (entertainer - talk show)<br />
•Evander Holyfield (athlete - boxing)</p>

<p>Oh and our friends over at the Real Hosewives thread. Today, I will add Stephen Baldwin</p>

<p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=email_en&amp;sid=a6l3xr8MUE08&amp;ref=patrick.net">Steve</a></p>

<p>Actor Stephen Baldwin sought voluntary Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in July after lenders began foreclosure proceedings. Baldwin, 43, listed $1.1 million in assets and $2.3 million in debt in documents filed in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in White Plains, New York. His home is valued at $1.1 million and the banks sought to recover about $1.2 million in mortgage loans, according to court papers. </p>

<p>Who do you know?
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      <title>A gripe about defaulted homedebtors.</title>
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      <published>2009-11-18T11:30:13Z</published>
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        <p>Got an amazing call yesterday. Need a venting moment&#8230;</p>

<p>&#8220;Legitimate buyer&#8221; referred from a Realtor rings me up. Person was upset, wondering why they were having trouble getting a loan. They had several past homes they paid off on time, but the last one was a short sale in August. The bank ate about 100k when they exited the property. &#8220;It was a bad investment, but that shouldn&#8217;t reflect on my ability to make a new house payment&#8221;.... There was such a disconnect between reality and responsibility it was jarring to say the least. </p>

<p>It got a bit weirder from there. The down payment funds were in gold. Yes, gold coins, scrap, and a few bars. This person asked if there was some way to use this asset for cash down without putting it in the bank &#8220;so I don&#8217;t have to pay taxes on it&#8221;. The conversation devolved from there about how her Attorney was going to try and remove the short sale from her credit report. I suggested that I was unable to help and that they continue with their attorney with any future questions. </p>

<p>One would think that if you capsized on your home in August, the last thing your going to do is try for a new home purchase with untraceable down payment resources. There was no shame or remorse that I would have expected from anyone in a similar situation. Why this Realtor was even working with them is a separate discussion as well. The Agent was a Jr assistant to a more experienced Realtor I&#8217;ve worked with for years so I&#8217;ll chalk it up to naivete</p>

<p>Is zero remorse for short sellers / intentional walk away&#8217;s the new norm or is this experience an aberration?</p>

<p>Soylent Green Is People
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      <title>Foreclosure Process question&#8230;</title>
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      <published>2009-11-14T16:29:53Z</published>
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        <p>Haven&#8217;t posted in a little while. Looks like things are slowing down on the forums&#8230;</p>

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A few questions on the foreclosure process.</p>

<p>Once the homeowner gets a Notice of Default (pre-foreclosure phase),<br />
at what point does the bank send the Notice of Trustee Sale after the<br />
Notice of Default?</p>

<p>Can the owners still sell short if no one bids on the property at auction and can the <br />
short sales process still be going on when the auction still occurs?</p>

<p>Is the indicator of an auction by the bank, a sign that the bank isn&#8217;t interested in<br />
a short sales?</p>

<p>Once it gets back to the bank if no one bids on it, does the bank try to sell it again<br />
via the normal selling route?
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      <title>Mark Hanson doesn&#8217;t think we&#8217;re out of the woods yet</title>
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      <published>2009-10-27T20:55:33Z</published>
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        <p>http://mhanson.com/archives/274</p>

<p>It just amazes me that on mainstream media, all we hear is how the housing market has bottomed/corrected itself, and through sites like Mark&#8217;s, Dr. Housing Bubble, and IHB, we hear the truth - based in facts and figures. Stop lying, NAR!
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      <title>Buyer&#8217;s Remorse (A Tale of Two Houses)</title>
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      <published>2009-09-28T06:19:26Z</published>
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        <p>I&#8217;d like to share my recent adventures in real estate, in case anyone is bored enough to want to read it. My husband and I just bought a house after searching for about a year. When we first started looking, we didn&#8217;t know anything about real estate except that everyone and their grandmother told us it was a great time to buy. We weren&#8217;t buying for that reason, though. We decided it was time to buy because our living situation was intolerable and we needed to move, and I hate renting as we&#8217;ve had some bad experiences in the past. Even if we did end up renting, we were planning to buy soon anyway and we didn&#8217;t want to move twice in a few years. So we decided to take the plunge and do it. Time to look for our dream house!</p>

<p>As we looked for a house, we quickly learned that it wasn&#8217;t truly the buyer&#8217;s market everyone promised. Or at least, it didn&#8217;t seem that way to us. There were few properties on the market and it seemed like the good ones had multiple offers and were snatched up quickly. I&#8217;m sure that doesn&#8217;t surprise anyone on here, but we weren&#8217;t expecting it since everyone told us it was a great time to buy. We were getting really frustrated. It started to feel like a frenzy&#8230;crazy buyers snatching up any decent house for prices that were still crazy high. </p>

<p>After we&#8217;d been looking for almost a year, we found two potential properties. Hallelujah, finally we have some options! House #1 was an SFR. It was big, but needed some updating. House #2 was a detached condo, about 250 sq ft smaller and $30k more than #1, but it was in move-in ready condition. After a lot of discussion, we decided to go with #1. It was bigger, it was a real house, we could paint it any color we want without asking the neighbors, etc. So we made an offer and it was accepted. Yay!</p>

<p>Only now I&#8217;m experiencing big-time buyer&#8217;s remorse. It&#8217;s the middle of the night and I&#8217;ve been tossing and turning, thinking we should have bought the detached condo. Because we are now in the middle of a HUGE remodeling project and it&#8217;s going to take forever. We&#8217;re still in our lousy living situation because our house will probably not be ready for months. Plus we&#8217;re paying double - rent plus mortage. And the renovation is going to be so expensive when all is said and done. We are in WAY over our heads since we are first-time buyers, and here we are with a gutted house. I also haven&#8217;t been liking the house too much lately. Not just because the remodeling isn&#8217;t done yet, but I think the condo was in a better neighborhood. Plus, I think the house is kind of ugly. Maybe the remodeling will fix that. I hope so. And I keep thinking that if we had bought the condo, we would have moved in already instead of being stuck in the middle of a huge remodel on a house I might not even like.</p>

<p>I think everything just got so crazy&#8230;we were getting desperate, couldn&#8217;t find anything perfect or even close, so we bought this house. I keep thinking of all the other houses that we saw that I wish we had bought&#8230;the house we made a super lowball offer on, the house with the great view that went into backups in 2 days (even though we saw it at the broker&#8217;s preview and decided to make an offer an hour later&#8230;too late!), and the detached condo I mentioned. But oh well, no crying over spilled milk, right? I&#8217;m sure some people are thinking we shouldn&#8217;t have bought anything at all, and maybe that&#8217;s true. If the shadow inventory ever does hit the market (and it seems like it has to, where else is it gonna go), and prices drop I will be pretty annoyed&#8230;especially living in a house I kind of don&#8217;t really like. Putting the house back on the market is not really an option because then we&#8217;d still be stuck living where we are now with no prospects. I think if we did try to sell it now, we probably would find a crazy buyer to take it off our hands, as a similar house in the neighborhood sold pretty fast. But we would definitely lose money on it because we wouldn&#8217;t get back all the money we are putting in with the remodel. Maybe we could price it a little higher than what we paid, but not much. Plus we&#8217;re not in the flipping business&#8230;we just want a nice house to live in!</p>

<p>Anyway, that is the situation that&#8217;s keeping me up when I should be sleeping. Thanks for reading.
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    <entry>
      <title>Trump Says the time to buy is within 6 months.</title>
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      <published>2007-10-18T09:53:34Z</published>
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        <p>Was watching a show called Trump: The Billionaire Inside on CNBC and he said that he warned people that this would happen (the credit crunch and declining values) over&nbsp;2 years ago.&nbsp; He says that the time to buy is between now and 6 months from now- when the market will finally bottom out.&nbsp; He seems to think that the worst is behind us and that all the &quot;bad loans&quot; are finally weeded out. In 6 months we will begin to see a rise in purchases.<br />
So he says.. buy buy buy!!!! He cannot believe that so many people are afraid to buy now when so many deals are out there, when they should be buying LOW.&nbsp; He says that the prices today are lower than they were 2 years ago, and to Buy!<br />
Did I mention, he said BUY?!?<br />
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      <title>Ten Questions on the Volatile Housing Marke</title>
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      <published>2009-11-17T12:41:43Z</published>
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        <p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125841123967851223.html#articleTabs=article">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125841123967851223.html#articleTabs=article</a>
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      <title>The Trustee Sale Thread &#45; Califoria Specific</title>
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      <published>2009-08-28T13:08:00Z</published>
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        <p>Hi Everyone, I would like to learn more about the trustee sale process in the state of California. I have read the foreclosure thread on this forum and did some general research of my own but I&#8217;d like to get some more insight from the investors, or others in the know, here on IHB&#8230; I have lots of questions but I&#8217;ll start with some very basic ones.</p>

<p>1. What exactly are bidders bidding on at a trustee sale, is it a deed of trust associated with a mortgage? Is it possible for something other than a deed of trust to be sold at a trustee sale?</p>

<p>2. Is the trustee performing the sale on behalf of the foreclosing bank? If a person bids and wins, the funds go to the bank, is this correct?</p>

<p>3. What kinds of instruments can be attached to a California title? Which instruments will and will not be wiped out by the auction?</p>

<p>4. What role, if any, does the foreclosing bank play at the trustee sale?</p>

<p>Please feel free to discuss other topics related to trustee sales also. I only ask that information in this thread be limited to what applies in the state of California.
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