Login
Subscribe
Recent Comments
- Lee Campbell on Uncovering the History of the Secret Garden
- Kelja on Uncovering the History of the Secret Garden
- Sylvia Walker on Irvine Housing by the Numbers - May 2012 Update
- Casual Observer on Irvine Housing by the Numbers - May 2012 Update
- Astute As It Comes on Open House Review: 35 Bella Rosa
- Sylvia Walker on Open House Review: 35 Bella Rosa
- Darin on Open House Review: 35 Bella Rosa
- Sylvia Walker on Investors Are Busy in Irvine's Low-End Housing Market
- Casual Observer on Investors Are Busy in Irvine's Low-End Housing Market
- irvine_home_owner on Tustin, but Irvine Schools
Recent Posts
- A Review of The Field Tract at Lambert Ranch
- Open House Review: 34 Redwood Tree Lane
- Uncovering the History of the Secret Garden
- Closed Sales from 5/10/2012-5/16/2012
- Open House Review: 52 Secret Garden
- Irvine Housing by the Numbers - May 2012 Update
- Paired Living with Privacy in Woodbridge
- Beige Ruth Sisters
- Closed Sales from 5/3/2012 to 5/9/2012
- Open House Review: 35 Bella Rosa
Categories
- Community Profile
- HELOC Abuse
- House Flips
- IHB Property Listing
- Investment Property
- Library
- Mortgage Fraud
- New Homes
- News
- Price Rollback
- Property Rental
- Real Estate Analysis
- Real Estate Owned
- Schools
- Short Sale
- Special Essays
- Special Irvine Homes
- Uncategorized
- WTF
Archives
- May 2012
- April 2012
- March 2012
- February 2012
- January 2012
- December 2011
- November 2011
- October 2011
- September 2011
- August 2011
- July 2011
- June 2011
- Rest of archives
Browse Homes
Irvine Homes
- Airport Area Homes
- El Camino Real Homes
- Northpark Homes
- Northwood Homes
- Oak Creek Homes
- Orangetree Homes
- Portola Springs Homes
- Quaill Hill Homes
- Rancho San Joaquin Homes
- Turtle Ridge Homes
- Turtle Rock Homes
- University Park
- University Town Center Homes
- West Irvine Homes
- Westpark Homes
- Woodbridge Homes
- Woodbury Homes
Newport Beach Homes
- Newport Coast Homes
- Crystal Cove Homes
- Corona Del Mar / Spyglass
- East Bluff / Harbor View Homes
- Lower Newport Bay / Balboa Island
- Balboa Peninsula Homes
- West Bay / Santa Ana Heights
- West Newport / Lido Homes
Other Cities
- Aliso Viejo Homes
- Anaheim Hills Homes
- Brea Homes
- Costa Mesa Homes
- Coto de Caza Homes
- Dana Point Homes
- Huntington Beach Homes
- Ladera Ranch Homes
- Laguna Beach Homes
- Laguna Hills Homes
- Laguna Niguel Homes
- Lake Forest Homes
- Mission Viejo Homes
- Orange Homes
- Rancho Santa Margarita Homes
- San Clemente Homes
- San Juan Capistrano Homes
- Santa Ana Homes
- Tustin Homes
- Villa Park Homes
- Yorba Linda Homes
Contact
.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Foreclosures
Housing
- Talk Irvine
- IHB Forum Archive
- OC Housing News
- Coto Housing Blog
- Housing Kaboom
- Patrick.net
- Housing Chronicles
- Housing Doom
- Dr. Housing Bubble
- Manhattan Beach Confidential
- Burbed
- SoCal RE Bubble Crash
- Professor Piggington
- Real C'ville
- Westside Bubble
- Bubble Meter
- Portland Housing Blog
- Sacramento Land(ing)
- OC Register Blog
Econ/Finance/Other
- Calculated Risk
- The Big Picture
- Economist's View
- Mish's Blog
- Matrix
- Bakers' Stock
- ML-Implode
- Eschaton
- Best Mortgage Rates
- Crackerjack Finance
Latest REOs
- $199,900 :: 3125 Watermarke Pl, Irvine CA, 92612
- $349,900 :: 10 Greenleaf 16, Irvine CA, 92604
- $439,900 :: 61 Olivehurst, Irvine CA, 92602
- $889,900 :: 14 Upland, Irvine CA, 92602
- $429,900 :: 56 Great Lawn, Irvine CA, 92620
- $465,000 :: 212 Garden Gate Ln, Irvine CA, 92620
- $329,000 :: 1006 Terra Bella, Irvine CA, 92602
- $579,900 :: 8 Star Thistle, Irvine CA, 92604
- $750,000 :: 69 Lakeview 6, Irvine CA, 92604
- $499,900 :: 84 Deermont 51, Irvine CA, 92602
Congrats Irvine Renter!
Realtors dismiss complaint against blogger
Published on July 22nd, 2011
Written by: Marilyn Kalfus, real estate reporter
http://irvinehomes.ocregister.com/2011/07/22/19523/19523/
Thank you. I will comment next week:
“By MARILYN KALFUS / THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER
A formal grievance complaint filed by the Orange County Association of Realtors against an Irvine real estate blogger has been dismissed, the attorney for the blogger says.
The lawyer, Scott Sims, had accused OCAR of being at odds with laws governing free speech in filing its complaint against Larry Roberts of irvinehousingblog.com. But Sims says he was given no reason the case was stopped.
“The bottom line is that OCAR has completely backed down and dismissed the complaint, without any settlement agreement or anything of the sort,” Sims said. “This is a clear and total victory for Mr. Roberts. He looks forward to continuing to provide readers of irvinehousingblog.com with high quality analysis and insight into the housing market.”
Roberts has taken on the real estate industry and accused agents of being dishonest. But while he’s been hard on real estate agents in general, he said in a recent interview, ”I have never singled any Realtor out and called them a liar.”
The grievance didn’t say specifically what Roberts — who is not a Realtor –or anyone else did, according to Roberts, who showed a copy of it to The Orange County Register.
Also subjects of the grievance — and the dismissal — were real estate agent Shevy Akason and broker Tina Rector. Akason, who works at Evergreen Realty, advertises on Roberts’ blog and pays him for referrals. Rector is Evergreen’s founding broker.
An OCAR grievance committee representative previously declined to discuss the case with a reporter, saying grievances are confidential.
Did **reality** hit OCAR right in the face or what?
<snark>
Congrats IR.
I’m half happy and half bummed. It would have been fun to leverage this to further expose the corruption and fraud that occurs with some OCAR members. But it’s awesome to see IR deservedly come out on top!
I love the “grievances are confidential” line.
I think this is OK in principle, until the point when the “grievance” becomes a “formal complaint” (in writing) and is issued externally to the subject from the OCAR organization. How can it still be regarded as confidential anymore. That’s sounds dumb.
I find it convenient for OCAR that the subjects of the grievance are named individually and publicly, but not the individuals within OCAR who drafted the complaint in the first place.
I do have a question: Was the dismissal of grievances by OCAR accompanied by a written personal or public apology?
While dismissing the grievance is a positive development, without something official or in writing acknowledging OCAR’s “error”, I presume Shevy and Evergreen and IHB have to try and do business in OC with a scarlet letter.
My sign for shopping mall demonstration was going to say:
“OCAR: It’s OK. We know. Just apologize!”
Does anyone know what happened to the PIMCO guy who called the housing bubble in PIMCO articles around 2006? He wrote about his own experience selling his Newport Beach home and moving his family into a rental home? I wonder if he’s still at PIMCO and whether he’s purchased a home.
His name was Mark Kiesel and it looks as if he is still there.
This is the article in which he revealed he sold his home to rent while prices dropped.
Ah, that brought back memories. I like this quote:
“...I will likely not re-enter (and buy a home) for at least another year as I suspect there is more downside ahead for Orange County housing prices…”
We’re in this six years and counting!
You should do a thread based on that thread (unless it’s illegal or violates blogging ethics). The 5th anniversary is coming up in November, which might be an appropriate date.
With 5 years’ hindsight, the comments in particular make very interesting reading . . .
(And if you frequent Lansner’s blog, as I do, you’ll know that the prices-will-defy-gravity comment crowd is even more shrill today than they were back in 2006. Desperation, anyone??)
The comments on that article are priceless. While only a small snapshot of what people were thinking, it summarized the two camps pretty well.
Is this the guy, Mark Kiesel?
He’s still at PIMCO:
http://singapore.pimco.com/LeftNav/Bios/Mark+Kiesel+Bio.htm
As of 2009, he was still renting:
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/aug/17/business/fi-bubble-timers17
Still at PIMCO:
http://www.pimco.com/EN/Insights/Pages/InsightsOverview.aspx?pa=Mark R. Kiesel
I’ve seen 80-10-10 products used fairly regularly. The 2nd 10% loan is usually at a higher rate 1-2% above the 1st. 400k @ 10% down is now $2500/mo. At 25% DTI, that’s 120k in income. Say, 10%/yr towards 401k (with the possibility of a loan for a DP), and a $1250/mo rental banking the $15k/yr savings on housing, it doesn’t take long to get to a 40k DP.
With this the 2nd becomes something like a DP program. It should have a shorter term than the first so that a bigger chunk goes towards building equity. It is much easier to do this at lower DTIs. The 35-45% DTI that gets talked about here seems dangerous to me, but I haven’t tasted the CA-RE punch.
“Realistically, the only way an Orange County resident is going to come up with enough money is if they first buy a home with an FHA mortgage of 3.5%, and that house goes up enough that they can sell and obtain the 20% equity for the next house.”
Now who’s being infected by the REIC meme, IR??
There is another way. Buy a home with an FHA mortgage AND PAY THE MORTGAGE DOWN. At some point the equity from that home will serve as a deposit for the move-up without any requirement for appreciation; in fact, the less appreciation the better since it will keep the changeover price lower.
This is a healthy move-up market. What will impact Irvine (and CA in general) is the availability of financing for DTI > 30%. It will be interesting what the private lending market will do, especially if banks have to hold more capital for a non-qualifying mortgage vs. one with DTI < 28%.
Tot lots! AYYYY!
walk-in closet
Impeccable
White House to tackle housing reform after debt ceiling fight (Jon Prior at HousingWire)
I love it when the analysts come out and state the rather obvious. If you gather the facts and do your own thinking, not much in this paper would’ve surprised you. But it’s comforting nonetheless to see a “pro” confirm what we either knew, suspected or otherwise predicted would happen.
Higher education is becoming increasingly more expensive, gone are the days when a Cal State education cost little more than books and materials, tuitions are continually on the rise. As pointed out, graduates are emerging with greater amounts of debt and worse, few job options. Servicing debt, paying more for essentials (even a cheap new car is $14-15K now) and stagnating wages have all but decimated any savings ideals. The idea of owning a home is a retreating mirage, ever unattainable.
IR said - “The change in buyer psychology resulting from a multi-year price decline will be difficult to overcome. In fact, I believe this will be the worst problem created by the false rally of 2009-2010. Because the government meddling sent a false buy signal and burned a group of cautious buyers, many will question the real bottom when it materializes.” I couldn’t agree more and to me, this is one of the most salient points made. Its my belief a fundamental shift is underway in how people will look at their housing options going forward ... I know I am.
Renting is losing its stigma (as has long been the case in Europe) and many are rethinking taking on the responsibilities that come with owning one’s home. Maintenance costs, insurance, appliances and major repairs dull the sheen of owning a home; considering a likely very slow appreciation in value for the foreseeable future, coupled to the risk, it simply may not be worth it.
Saving for a DP has always been hard. The employment situation in the late 70’s and early 80’s was not great, and my parents used a loan from my grandparents for their DP. I actually think that used to be more common.
The change has already taken place. It’s not the false rally that has changed sentiment though, it’s the buyers of 2005-2007 who potentially had their down-payments dissolve. I don’t know if 100% financers who squatted for more than a year have owning look like a less attractive option.
Housing as an investment has taken a huge hit (you’ll know to get back in when you see the magazine cover below relating to housing). With that, you’ll have more people choosing to rent, and also spending less of their income on housing - because it’s more consumption than investment.
I’ve seen this with the residents in training at my wife’s hospital. When she started in 2003 up till just recently, nearly everyone bought a home. Even if they were only going to be here 3 years, or had no need for a the space of a home & yard. But, if you made 50-75k on your last $175k home that you owned for 3-4 years, why not buy? Some of those buyers are now accidental landlords, but many more incoming residents are choosing to rent (which is the right choice).
It will take a couple years for multi-family and apartment construction to catch up with where sfr was a couple years ago. There are a lot of condos though, that will become rentals instead of purchases, either by the original owner or investors.
Congrats.
One happy reader.
Congratulations on them dropping that silly action. Thanks for providing a place for us to have discourse. Best of luck to you!!!
$1.2 million mansion for $10K?
http://www.bankrate.com/financing/mortgages/1-2-million-mansion-for-10k/?ec_id=m1078089