Brio New World

Aug 27th, 2007  
by IrvineRenter  in Price Rollback

Astute Observations

Astute Observation by Mr Vincent
2007-08-27 07:02 AM

“Motivated Seller-Great location for UCI Student or Executive.”

What does an executive have in common with a student?

The listing descriptions are getting crazier and more desperate.

I would love to see pics of the inside for 2301 Ladrillo Aisle #54. Wells Fargo is asking 386k for 783 sq ft, fixer upper.

Are there still any suckers left who will pay that kind of money for these apartments?
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Astute Observation by NanoWest
2007-08-27 07:41 AM

One of the ironic twists of this housing bubble is that the people that were willing to purchase with no idea of how to pay, will just as easily walk away. When they walk, they will blame everyone in the world and take no personal responsibility. What is really amazing, is the next time a stupid ponzi scheme gets started, these same people will be the first to jump in.

Astute Observation by Live And Work In Irvine
2007-08-27 08:02 AM

Wow. You really have depth and understanding.

That sermon was exceptional. I printed it for my wife and she wants to tape it to the wall.

Astute Observation by Patience
2007-08-27 08:04 AM

From what I remember this development has terrible parking, too.

Astute Observation by lendingmaestro
2007-08-27 08:06 AM

These people are already taking losses and these properties are going for almost $400 per sq ft or more???

WOW.

Astute Observation by CalGal
2007-08-27 08:19 AM

Great sermon for a Monday morning.  Thanks for the inspiration!

Astute Observation by SMF
2007-08-27 08:25 AM

I bought my first house with little down in 1994 in Sacramento. Of course it was ‘only’ $115K and 3X income. It was a 3/2 house with 1297 sq.ft.

Funny thing, ended up finding comparables sales in Zillow this year, and the RE agent allowed me to overpay by at least $15K.

There WAS a time when little down could allow a qualified person to start on the road. But with the current prices, not right now.

Astute Observation by Stupid
2007-08-27 08:32 AM

Discovered City of Irvine GIS/Mapping website

http://www.ci.irvine.ca.us/depts/cd/gis/default.asp

If you have a street address, you can do an online parcel search. 


You can also go to http://www.ci.irvine.ca.us/depts/cd/building_planning.asp
and click on the “ePermint and Case History” link to get the building permits for a particular street address.

Astute Observation by Sue
2007-08-27 08:54 AM

U.S. Economy: Home Sales Drop, Inventories Increase (Update1)

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aWpWs_zJPpMo&refer=home

Astute Observation by caliguy2699
2007-08-27 08:55 AM

Wouldn’t be the first place in Irvine with a parking problem. I remember going to this neighborhood a number of months back, and thinking it seemed kind of nice. Still too expensive right now for what you get, in my opinion.

Not sure if this is the case with Brio, but I always shudder when I see complexes where there clearly isn’t enough parking considering the parking spaces some units get for the amount of bedrooms they have (e.g. 2 bedrooms, 1-car garage with no second space). How can that not lead to a parking crunch, since it’s hard to imagine there are too many single people who can realistically afford payments on a 1-bedroom with these price tags? Other than these so-called “executives,” of course. And it’s not uncommon to see 4 students in 2 bedrooms, so why not 2 in 1 bedroom?

It reminds me of a listing I saw a few months back that had a photo showing some guest parking spaces with the caption: “plenty of guest parking.” You guessed it: all the parking spaces in the picture were full.

Astute Observation by covered
2007-08-27 09:40 AM

Funny, I didn’t view IR’s comments as a sermon at all. No fire& brimstone, proselytizing or guilt trips. Just a very astute, reality based commentary on who and where we are and how we got here on our respective journeys. I do have a feeling he IS sharpening up his keyboard for some well placed eulogies, though:)

Astute Observation by Sue
2007-08-27 09:41 AM

The next credit crunch?
As home loan market tightens, mounting credit card debt could spur new crisis

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-sun_crunch0826aug26,0,4784210.story?page=1

Astute Observation by jwbrown77
2007-08-27 09:57 AM

“I have to laugh at these asking prices with $999. I guess the seller still wants to squeeze every last dollar out of this sale. Maybe we will have houses priced like gasoline soon with the 9/10 of a cent added on.”

lol!

Astute Observation by Sue
2007-08-27 10:24 AM

Prince George’s Fairy Tale Unravels For Woman at Center of Fraud Probe

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/25/AR2007082501362.html

Astute Observation by Jeff
2007-08-27 11:06 AM

A Distorted View:Existing Home Sales.
http://www.thegreatloanblog.blogspot.com/

Astute Observation by covered
2007-08-27 12:08 PM

Behind every great fortune there is a crime.
      Honore de Balzac
      French realist novelist (1799 - 1850)

Astute Observation by Major Schadenfreude
2007-08-27 12:28 PM

I’m sure Joy Jenise Jackson has read that book - NOT!

Astute Observation by $10,000 Tax Free
2007-08-27 12:52 PM

Was that $10,000 cash back taxable?  Are there any more deals like this left?  I want someone to pay me 10k to live in a house rent free while I slowly strip away all of the valuable pieces and ship them to Mexico.  Would this be against the law?

There was an interesting article in the Northcounty Times about a real estate group that gutted an entire neighborhood in Murietta.

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/08/26/news/californian/21_20_158_25_07.txt

Astute Observation by Idaho_Spud
2007-08-27 01:15 PM

LOL Irvine renter.  You are right on.  Clearly you have touched on a sore subject for a lot of people.

I’ve read the bible and was *forced* to read several self-improvement books at work. 

None of these tomes of wisdom mentioned granite countertops, german-import cars, silicone boobs, or outdoor kitchens.  Happiness comes from within.

Astute Observation by Mark
2007-08-27 01:22 PM

Your bible doesn’t mention cars, electricity, phones, etc.  Are all those things “bad” too?

Astute Observation by Joe
2007-08-27 01:24 PM

I never understand why stupid condo developers only include a 1 car garage for 2 bedroom units.  It’s not like we live in a high density area with decent public trans where having 1 car per household is practical.

My in laws live a block away from a relatively large condo complex, and the people end up parking their POS junk cars all over the surrounding streets because there isn’t enough parking in the complex.  So the street is full of eyesore cars that don’t even belong to the homeowners who live on the street.  Ridiculous.

Astute Observation by Stupid
2007-08-27 01:58 PM

What does that mean for CDO’s smile ?

You may charge a foreigner interest, but not a brother Israelite, so that the LORD your God may bless you in everything you put your hand to in the land you are entering to possess.
Deuteronomy 23:19-21 (in Context) Deuteronomy 23 (Whole Chapter)

Astute Observation by lendingmaestro
2007-08-27 02:08 PM

OMG.

Astute Observation by Joe
2007-08-27 02:30 PM

My Bible mentions fake boobs.

Astute Observation by Major Schadenfreude
2007-08-27 02:34 PM

Joe,

Was that under a “Making Others Happy” paragraph?

Astute Observation by Idaho_Spud
2007-08-27 02:44 PM

who said electricity is bad?  I guarantee it won’t make you happy wink

Astute Observation by Idaho_Spud
2007-08-27 02:48 PM

Mark, do you get your happiness from having electricity, phones (an iphone perhaps to show off to your co-workers), cars, and etc (whatever that is)? 

If those are the source of your happiness and self-worth I pity you.  A lot.

Astute Observation by Anonymous
2007-08-27 03:09 PM

Anyone want to try and explain this one:

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=682391

Check out the sales history. I hope something is wrong with Redfin’s data. Otherwise this one is funny as hell.

Astute Observation by Mark
2007-08-27 03:21 PM

I guess, my point would be, that happiness is very personal.  Discover what makes you happy and pursue it.  I don’t fault others for finding happiness in places I wouldn’t venture. 

And try not to worry about others’ sources of happiness.  Why would you pity anyone?  It’s unnecessary…

Astute Observation by RW
2007-08-27 04:09 PM

Somebody confused Redfin by listing their timeshare on the MLS.

Astute Observation by Anonymous
2007-08-27 04:30 PM

Ah. That makes sense.

Astute Observation by Mark F.
2007-08-27 05:03 PM

After checking in to irvinehousingblog.com on a regular basis faithfully over the past few months, a tremor of self-aggrandizement came over me when I realized the IR had focused his daily diatribe on Brio, the development that I’ve called home for the past three years.  My ego’s a bit crushed that our two-bedroom, one-bath, single-car garage carriage unit, currently on the marked for three months now, didn’t get profiled; at $415 - 429k for 917 sqare feet with a greenbelt view and plenty of sunshine, it’s the best deal going in the whole complex.  Perhaps I should be thankful that it didn’t get mentioned, otherwise I’d have no cause for the plug.  And yes, as a 2-car family with my wife’s car getting garage privileges, I’ve had to rely on a bizzare combination of subterfuge and luck to get to park close to my unit.  But when I actually get the coveted space over my neighbors who struggle for the same location, it makes me overcome with glee every time.

Astute Observation by Stupid
2007-08-27 05:03 PM

No electricity = no air condition = Stupid not happy

Astute Observation by Sue
2007-08-27 05:19 PM

Subprime Borrowers More Apt to Pay Card Debt, Ignore Mortgages

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aA5S1dNmg9SA

Astute Observation by Sue
2007-08-27 05:30 PM

Federal Reserve Education
Foreclosure resources for Customers

http://www.federalreserveeducation.org/pfed/foreclosure/

Astute Observation by IrvineRenter
2007-08-27 07:17 PM

Mark,

I’m sorry I missed your unit. If you are reasonably priced and not underwater, you passed under the IHB radar.

Good luck,  wink

Astute Observation by Sue
2007-08-27 07:29 PM

UPDATE Orange County mortgage casualties

http://www.ocregister.com/money/strong-layoffs-reported-1690495-edd-mortgage

Astute Observation by Major Schadenfreude
2007-08-27 08:26 PM

Boo hoo.  My keyboard is wet with tears…

Astute Observation by Idaho_Spud
2007-08-27 10:08 PM

Mark,

Please read this and see if you consider it healthy (or even marginal) behavior.  Do you feel that such behavior is in the best interest of greater society and our financial system?  If it only affected those involved (like herpes) I would have no issue with it.

As one who is not partaking in this recent glut of a credit orgy and bankruptcy (I am not a “bitter renter” having been a homeowner for decades), such behavior seems not only irrational, but harmful - even to those not directly involved.  At that point I draw the line on what is acceptable to acheive “personal happiness”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspicuous_consumption

Astute Observation by Stupid
2007-08-27 11:02 PM

I read somewhere that Neanderthal man would only travel a few miles for a slightly better piece of flint, but Homo Sapiens would travel hundreds of miles for a slightly better piece of flint.

And Homo Sapiens, with his technological advantage due to craving the latest and greatest things, wiped Neanderthal man out.

And that drive for the slightly better piece of flint (or cellphone, to make a modern analogy) remains.

Astute Observation by OscarDeLaJolla
2007-08-28 10:15 AM

Umm…nobody in all of SoCal is reasonably priced.  Just thought I would point that out.

Astute Observation by Trooper
2007-08-28 10:41 AM

wow on that article.  Didn’t this happen to Murrieta last time too (90’s) ?

Astute Observation by effenbrio
2007-08-29 07:45 PM

I lived in Brio.  De Nile flows straight through there on its way to Egypt.

2401 (1186sq ft) has been off and on the market for at least 12 months.  It first hit the market at $589k.

Yes.  Read that again.  $589k.

It’s on its 5th listing.

The parking situation has been cleaned up due to new rules from the HOA.  Check these rules VERY carefully before considering this tract—They went from anarchy straight to parking dictatorship.  If you have frequent overnight guests, forget about living here unless you want to pay a couple hundred to assign them a *non-transferable* pass.

Singles, hope your relationship is stable.

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