Big drop in Ashton Green in Turtle Ridge

Nov 4th, 2006  
by zovall  in House Flips

Address: 108 Coral Rose, Irvine, CA 92603 (Turtle Ridge)
Plan: 1398 sq ft - 2/2.5
MLS: S445098 DOM: 150
Sale History: 3/31/2005: $619,990 ??
Price Reduced: 08/23/06 -- $750,000 to $725,000
Price Reduced: 10/06/06 -- $725,000 to $689,000
Price Reduced: 10/13/06 -- $689,000 to $669,000
Price Reduced: 11/03/06 -- $669,000 to $595,000
Current Price: $595,000

MLS Description: CONDO GIVEAWAY! THAT'S RIGHT $595,000. GORGEOUS MODEL HOME BY SHEA BUILDERS. 2 BD, 2.5 BA. ALL THE GOODIES AND HAS A VIEW. WAS PRICED AT $750,000, AT $669,000----AND NOW YOU NAME THE PRICE!

This is a Plan 7 in the Ashton Green tract in the village of Turtle Ridge. So what's going on here? Your guess is as good as mine! Let me tell you what I've found so far:

  • No prior sales history in Zillow or the Title database
  • The last plan 7 (actually a 7A which had 1426 sq ft) sold for $815,000 on 5/24/2006 - an all time high for this tract
  • Property taxes are listed as UNPAID
  • Title lists the owner as "SHEA HOMES LTD PARTNERSHIP" and thus no loan information

I actually found an old listing in MLS (P422498) that shows the property listed by Shea Homes and sold to a buyer for $619,990 on 3/31/2005. The agent representing the buyer in that transaction is the same agent that is listing the property now. **IF** we assume the MLS info for the purchase is correct, then this flipper will lose $60,690 (assuming 6% in selling costs) if they sell at $595,000! They are selling for LESS than what they bought the property for FROM THE BUILDER!

Could Shea possibly still own this home or is the title information just not accurate? Is the seller in default? Why are the prior year's taxes still unpaid? Is the 'low' price an attempt to generate offers after probably receiving none for the last 5 months?


Astute Observations

Astute Observation by NanoWest
2006-11-05 11:10 AM

$595,000 for a 1400 sq ft. tract condo in Irvine is just plain stupid…..and what is the view of, the freeway?
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Astute Observation by Jeremiah
2006-11-05 08:03 PM

Interesting.  How do you search the title database?  For that matter, are there publicly available databases that reflect sales prices? Thanks.

Astute Observation by zovall
2006-11-05 08:24 PM

Title databases are typically made available to RE agents.  I don’t know of any publicly available databases with this information.  Sure would be nice though wink

Astute Observation by Neil
2006-11-06 12:45 PM

Great blog,

I’m refering a friend over here.  He’s about to experience a “life milestone” that is making him want to buy.  The information I’ve gained has convinced him to wait until at least 2008.

Neil

Astute Observation by TimA
2006-11-07 07:47 AM

realestateabc.com shows this property was purchased in July, 2006 for $585,500.

Astute Observation by zovall
2006-11-07 10:25 AM

I think the data at realestateabc.com is a little flawed.  When I search for 109 Coral Rose or 110 Coral Rose, it also shows a price of $585,500 and a sales date of 7/4/2006.

Astute Observation by Irvinite
2006-12-15 05:52 PM

This is no surprise that it is listed for so much.
1) Former Model Home
2) Turtle Ridge ( Beach Close )
3) Largest Plan

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