B of A to establish special home investment trust as a bank to hold toxic assets

Mar 14th, 2011  
by IrvineRenter  in Library News

Astute Observations

Astute Observation by Planet Reality
2011-03-14 06:36 AM

$383 per sq ft, the irvine “crash” continues to devastate… those that said we would drop to $150-200 per sq ft that is, the devastation continues.  6 years into the “crash” and counting the money keeps flowing 30% median cash down payment cotinue for Irvine

Astute Observation by bigmoneysalsa
2011-03-14 10:57 AM

Yes, people who predicted Irvine prices would drop to $200/sf by now were wrong. This is a very small group of people btw, probably about the same size as the group of people who though gas prices would drop below $2 a gallon, but hey we all know how much fun it is to pick fights with straw men.
Also wrong: people who repeated over and over that 2009 was the bottom. Hmmmmm, who can we include in that group?
Meh, so this house is *only* down 20-25% from peak. So far. Not great, but not too bad.

Astute Observation by AZDavidPhx
2011-03-14 02:56 PM

Let’s not forget those who said interest rates were going to continue to break record lows and reach 2%.  Indeed, the “crash” continues to perplex all.

Nice article linked by Patrick today:

First Time Buyers Fade From Market

Comments from Irvine HO or those who have staunchly been in denial?

Astute Observation by irvine_home_owner
2011-03-15 09:46 AM


First Time Buyers Fade From Market

Comments from Irvine HO or those who have staunchly been in denial?

Hehe… straw man from the anti-straw man advocate.

What is it you say? “Trot the straw man out there just to see me crumple him up an throw him away”?

Give me a break:

1. That’s a national article link and we’re talking about Irvine.

2. The first line of that article says:
“There’s more evidence today that cash buyers and investors are dominating the housing market.”

Uhh… the whole contention of our decades long war was that you felt that Irvine buyers were more irresponsible than the rest of their world with their zero down loans. My counter was that Irvine buyers put down on average more (40%) than most cities so that’s not true.

So now you’ve changed your tune that those are not first time buyers but move-up buyers using equity. Yet… you can’t prove it and the numbers are not on your side. Over 1000 new homes (NOT counting resale) sold in Irvine last year… were those ALL move up buyers?

3. And again, your buddy IrvineRenter was the one who said that there were NO move-up buyers in the Irvine New Home Collection… so are you saying he is staunchly in denial?

@bigmoneysalsa:
<i>“Yes, people who predicted Irvine prices would drop to $200/sf by now were wrong. This is a very small group of people btw…”,/i>

Really? You may want to go back and check the IHB comments and the old forums. That group seemed to be the majority… not a “small group”.

Astute Observation by Joseph
2011-03-15 12:06 PM

You’re wrong. AZDavid was the only regular predicting below $200/sf.

Astute Observation by irvine_home_owner
2011-03-15 12:33 PM

Google says otherwise:

Astute Observation by avobserver
2009-08-19 08:39 AM

it’s an old house close to freeway. $258/SF does not sound like a bargain to me. I suspect houses like this will sell for $200/SF in a year.

Astute Observation by MMG
2007-06-19 07:59 AM

how about 200 per square foot soon.

Even IR himself, at one time said $200/sf would be bottom:

http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/blog/2007/09/P21/

“Asking less than $300 / SF in Westpark? That is progress. When properties like this one get down under $200 / SF, we will be getting near the bottom.”

[url=“http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/blog/comments/the-builders-will-lead-them/”]
http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/blog/comments/the-builders-will-lead-them/[/url]

“I believe new home sales prices will bottom between $225/SF and $250/SF while most resales will fall to $200/SF or below.”

And, when prices were $375-$400/sft and commenters were saying that Irvine would see drops of 40%-50%... my calculator says $200/sft… does yours?

Astute Observation by lee in irvine
2011-03-14 11:16 AM

Irvine Inventory

3-14-2011 = 811 homes for sale
3-13-2010 = 552 homes for sale
3-13-2009 = 775 homes for sale
3-15-2008 = 924 homes for sale

Astute Observation by lunatic fringe
2011-03-14 11:56 AM

“declining loan balances (remember the rent is paying down the note”

Is it? Unless the amount lent by the bank represents current rental parity I don’t think you can make this assumption.

Personally I think this is a desperate effort by the banks. How long will they have to sit on these homes before they are above water? And if it’s years, just what kind of shape will these homes be in after years of renters?

These banks should have been left to die instead of being bailed out and their bondholders left to twist in the wind. We’d be done with this already instead of staring at years of decline ahead.

Astute Observation by matt138
2011-03-14 03:11 PM

These banks that try to become landlords will atrophy into slumlords, especially as our economy worsens.  When deferred maintenance bills come due (new roof, slab leak, new water heater, termite/dry rot), they will be financially overwhelmed and the government will force the taxpayer to foot the bill.

Had we let them die in ‘08, we would have dealt with the sharp pain and been closer to true recovery today.  Bankruptcy is healthy to an overencumbered individual, family, company, or country.

Astute Observation by irvineshadow
2011-03-14 01:15 PM

anonymous released a slew of BofA emails regarding their dirty dealings in foreclosing on people.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110314/wr_nm/us_bankofamerica_emails

Astute Observation by Planet Reality
2011-03-14 01:50 PM

All of those inventory numbers are extremely low.

Astute Observation by tenmagnet
2011-03-14 03:47 PM

Exactly, Irvine continues to be sought after, premium areas in particular.

Astute Observation by Balboa Employee
2011-03-14 02:52 PM

As someone who works at Balboa, I can attest to the systems involved and can say that these emails say nothing about foreclosure fraud. Firstly, we are in the lender-placed property insurance business. This means on behalf of the lender, we will insure the property automatically, if the property owner lapses in keeping their property insurance current during the life of the loan. We have NOTHING to do with the foreclosure process at GMAC or BAC (who are our customers).

As such, this looks to me like a former employee cherry picking a piece of an email thread and trying to smear his former employers with it.

Astute Observation by AZDavidPhx
2011-03-14 03:02 PM

IrvineRenter -

Are we going to be seeing a post about your local swindler ripping off the gullible?

We were SHOCKED!  SHOCKED I tell you!  He smiled at us in church every Sunday!  GASP!!

Astute Observation by AZDavidPhx
2011-03-14 03:06 PM

Anslow provided $200,00 to Sparks in 2007 for him to use toward the purchase, rehab and sale of a $700,000 home at 1048 Laurel Fig Drive in Simi Valley, according to court records.

I would be curious to know how this property has performed since the flip.  Is the buyer still making the payments?

Astute Observation by SanJoseRenter
2011-03-14 04:04 PM

The article said there was no sales record for that address, and that Sparks “did not know how the deal was structured.”

Hard to pin down.

Astute Observation by AZDavidPhx
2011-03-14 06:54 PM

Yes, Angel Dave is off trying to figure out how that deal was “structured”.  He’s going to get back to you on that.

Astute Observation by theyenguy
2011-03-14 07:05 PM

Thank you for the interesting and timely article.

You question: “Will lenders maintain their properties to a reasonable standard, or will they all become slumlords?”

I expect to see a kind of leased property living like that presented in the 1973 movie Solyent Green

In my article European Leaders Affirm Angela Merkel’s European Economic Governance And Austerity Plan, I communicate the concept that Neoliberalism was the political and economic regime that governed mankind from the time that the Free To Choose economic theory of Milton Friedman replaced the gold standard in the early 1970s, to the exhaustion of Ben Bernanke’s quantitative easing 1 and 2 on February 22, 2011, which was reflected in the fall in value of the distressed securities, which underwrote quantitative easing, and which are approximated by the Fidelity Mutual Fund FAGIX. It was on February 22, 2011 that the value of FAGIX, and world stocks, ACWI, both fell lower.

The fall lower in world stocks, ACWI, commodities, DJP, world major currencies, DBV, emerging market currencies, CEW, documents the failure of seigniorage of the neoliberal economic and political regime, as well as entrance into Kondratieff Winter on March 11, 2011. It is reasonable to expect desperate economic conditions and great austerity with evaporation of lending and falling investment prices.

US Government Treasuries fell lower in an Elliott Wave 3 Decline, as reflected by the 30 Year US Government Bond, EDV, trading lower from 80.46 to 78.40; and the 10 Year US Government Note, TLT, trading lower from 92.37 to 91.55.  The beginning of the Elliott Wave 3 Down in US Treasury values means the likelihood of failed Treasury auctions. We are witnessing the end of credit as it has traditionally been known. Both bank lending and home lending will be a thing of the past.

Conclusion: Failure of seigniorage as well as the failure of US Treasuries as an investment means leasing of homes will be commonplace

Astute Observation by Planet Reality
2011-03-15 06:28 AM

We are now in the Ellitot Wave 3 down?

Thank god, it’s about freaking time… this is only the 1078th time we’ve been entering wave 3 down.  This is it !

Astute Observation by SantaAnaRenter
2011-03-15 07:39 AM

I once renting on Cherrybrook. These “homes” (technically they are detached condos, some with shared driveways) are SO TINY! I’m shocked at the $575,000 asking price, which still equals prices in late 2003.

1500 sq ft (but 2 story). Remember that includes the stairs, etc.

Astute Observation by LarryB
2011-03-15 09:41 AM

SantaAnaRenter, I drove by that place yesterday.  You are right. Can not believe these little doll houses are worth half a million bucks.

Astute Observation by PnL
2011-03-15 12:12 PM

They’re only worth what some sucker is willing to pay for them. The reason we’re in this mess is that Wall St decided to commoditize home ownership, thus prices can rise an fall on the whims of Wall St bankers.

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