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His lack of popularity makes more sense now, I’d never seen those quotes before, disappointing.

he’s not completely against blacks…

Stating that lobbying groups who seek special favors and handouts are evil, Paul wrote, “By far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government” and that the goal of the Zionist movement is to stifle criticism.

There…you see?  It appears Ron Paul is an equal opportunity offender.  He gets my vote.

He has bashed Asians, Whites, Blacks, and now Jewish people.  If anything, I am offended that he hasn’t….errrr….offended Hispanics.

when has he bashed whites? christians?

It’s looks simpler than that to me: Ron Paul supports decriminalization of drugs, closing of overseas military bases and ending all foreign deployments with major reductions in military spending, return to the gold standard, etc., along with the more usual Tea Party Republican must-haves and does not drape it all in righteous Christian rhetoric. So the right-wing social conservative religious Republicans can’t live with his program, nor can any significant proportion of Democrats or independents. Lots of people like some bits of what he stands for, but not enough, or strongly disagreeing with other parts.

I’ve seen these quotes surface before, yet no one seems to be able to produce the newsletters in full…perhaps because they are being taken completely out of context?

Bill Cosby has also been villified for speaking such truths as “the number one killer of a young black male is another black male” and “Let me tell you something, your dirty laundry gets out of school at 2:30 every day, it’s cursing and calling each other n———as they’re walking up and down the street,” and, in a stunningly parallel statement to the Ron Paul statement about D.C. criminals “There’s a Fulton County juvenile court judge in Atlanta who’s black. He grew tired of so many young black men coming through his courtroom. He said they made up 95 percent of his cases. So in April, he cleared the courtroom of all the white people and began to chastise these young black men.  He scolded them, told them what they should be doing instead of standing before him for conduct and crimes against society and their ancestors.”

So is Bill Cosby a racist?  Is Ron Paul?  Is speaking the truth “racist?”

he’s not racist if he spoke the truth, but you would be an idiot or racist yourself not to see that these are racist statements that have nothing to do with the truth.

“If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.” - Ron Paul, 1992

—- aren’t most [non-overweight] teens of all races “fleet-footed”?

“I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.” - Ron Paul, 1992

—- nuff said

“We don’t think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That’s true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such.” - Ron Paul, 1992

—- according to the law it’s your mental state that determines culpability, not how “big and strong” you are.

“complex embezzling, which is 100 percent white and Asian?” - Ron Paul, 1992

—- really?  only whites and asians are capable of “complex” embezzling?

Simply ending the War on Drugs, would do more for black americans than any other single issue. The War on Drugs and how it has eroded our constitutional rights, created a police state, and burdened us with the prison industrial complex is horrific. There are more people incarcerated in the U.S.A. per capita, than *any* industrialized nation on the earth, that includes Russia and China BTW.

The War on Drugs is the biggest travesty to america since slavery. There cannot be a free america, if your goal is a drug-free america.

“The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the Prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this.”
- Albert Einstein

Agree with every word of this great post, Swiller.

Worse, our drug prohibition is creating addicts, not preventing addiction. As long as drug distribution is in the hands of criminal outlaws, it is they who will decide what is sold, and to whom it is sold. And if they decide they will sell heroin to the high school kids in your suburb, that’s who it will be sold to.

If we want to control access to dangerous street drugs, we need to decriminalize them and impose multi-tiered regulation that recognizes different levels of impairment and threat to health. As things are now, we have no control at all and we are are only adding to the death toll as criminal gangs engage in daytime gun battles on our city streets for control of drug turf.

Those quotes are not Ron Paul’s.  The scheme was debunked long ago.

I dont think he has a problem with any person, of any race, color, or creed, who strives to be a productive member of society.

He is speaking the truth even if it is an ugly one.

From what I’ve seen from politicians regarding economic issues Ron Paul seems head and shoulders ahead of most. I know a lot of people that are economically conservative and believe in free-market economic policy but are socially liberal. A candidate like this could appeal to moderate Republicans, moderate Democrats, and independents, I don’t know if he is racist but those comments make it seem like he is, if he is, that’s unfortunate.

What makes you think he said any of those things?

he didn’t “say” any of them… they were published in HIS newsletter… with no author… so he may, or he may not, but he surrounds himself with racists or he hires them it was him… we’ll probably never know.

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-01-10/politics/paul.newsletters_1_newsletters-blacks-whites?_s=PM:POLITICS

...or he hires them *or it was him… we’ll probably never know.

Good point, regardless, if this perception is out there my question is answered. I know some strong Ron Paul supporters that are not racist, I am curious regarding their thoughts on this.

one of my buddies is a black dude… he’s a ron paul supporter… we talk about this once in a while.  his thing is but his ideas are what’s important… voting for anyone else will be ruinous for the country, but my response was that sometimes you have to step back and and see who around you cheering at the crowds… not drawing comparisons, but hitler had a singular “unifying” theme for germany too at the beginning… and it was nothing more than a bunch of pissed off people at rallies that thrusted the nazi’s into power.

OK, I’ll bite at the bait.

I’m a very strong supporter of Ron Paul.  I WAS a registered Democrat, now registered Independent.  I always considered myself fiscally conservative and socially liberal.  I don’t think of myself as a racist (mixed-race background).

Ron Paul occasionally says some kookie things, but I GREATLY prefer listening to him than to almost any other politicians.  Most of what he says MAKES SENSE.  Other politicians just make me gag.  Ron Paul seems to really want to get the government out of our lives and just generally make it smaller.  Other politicians, both left and right, want to use the government for their own ends, whatever words they say.  Look at Rick Perry.  He warbles on and on about making government smaller.  But then he wants to MASSIVELY increase military spending.  Yet another hypocrite.  And don’t get me started on the Democrats.

SM

“Ron Paul seems to really want to get the government out of our lives and just generally make it smaller.”

Well, then get him to stop the govt from locking up all those wonderful black people. <snark>

Rachel Maddow for president then?

You don’t get it.  Mortgage rates lowering and rents increasing can happen simultaneously as they have by design.  That is the intention.  They longer the fed rate is held at zero mortgage rates are manipulated to conform lower.  The ensuing inflation from the manipulation will inflate rents.

Eventually rates will rise, but eventually is a long time.  By the time that happens inflation will probably he horribly out of control.  Unless you believe the fed is looking out for the little guy lol.

No, I get it, but I just don’t believe that rents will go up 25-50% in the short term.  That would happen if there were a true shortage in dwellings, which there isn’t.  Funny to see Tampa listed.  Nearly all of FL has too many dwellings, not too few.  Sure people may not want to buy, but as rents go up, investors will buy the vacant homes and rent them.

Plus, the recent construction in apartments will put downward pressure on rents.  There is this dream of massive new household formation, but those people forget the huge increase in 2nd home and investment buying that created excess housing supply when those purchases reversed.

As IR has stated ad infinitum, rental rates are correlated to income levels. And I doubt incomes will rise by 50% in ten years. In fact, in real terms, higher inflation and taxes (yes it’s coming) will eat away at wages thereby DECREASING the net incomes people have for housing. Rents will have to decline or stagflate in order to remain marketable in that scenario.

short term? he said 10 years. You realize that Jaysen’s exact trend line of 2.5%, that equals 28% after 10 years right?

To get to 50%, all you need is 4% a year. Seems hardly a stretch given the massive printing of money they have already done…much less will do in the next several years.

I’m sorry but you are dead wrong.  The reason rates have fallen so quickly is fear.  Major investors are pouring into the safest thing they can find right now because they are worried about another major down turn.  It may not matter if rates are low, if there is too much negative equity out there to capitalize on.

the safest thing they can find right now is on the top of the treasury bubble?  nice.