“I have to laugh at these asking prices with $999. I guess the seller still wants to squeeze every last dollar out of this sale. Maybe we will have houses priced like gasoline soon with the 9/10 of a cent added on.”
“Motivated Seller-Great location for UCI Student or Executive.”
What does an executive have in common with a student?
The listing descriptions are getting crazier and more desperate.
I would love to see pics of the inside for 2301 Ladrillo Aisle #54. Wells Fargo is asking 386k for 783 sq ft, fixer upper.
Are there still any suckers left who will pay that kind of money for these apartments? ——-
Posted by NanoWest on 08/27/07 at 07:41 AM
One of the ironic twists of this housing bubble is that the people that were willing to purchase with no idea of how to pay, will just as easily walk away. When they walk, they will blame everyone in the world and take no personal responsibility. What is really amazing, is the next time a stupid ponzi scheme gets started, these same people will be the first to jump in.
Posted by Live And Work In Irvine on 08/27/07 at 08:02 AM
Wow. You really have depth and understanding.
That sermon was exceptional. I printed it for my wife and she wants to tape it to the wall.
Posted by Patience on 08/27/07 at 08:04 AM
From what I remember this development has terrible parking, too.
Posted by lendingmaestro on 08/27/07 at 08:06 AM
These people are already taking losses and these properties are going for almost $400 per sq ft or more???
WOW.
Posted by CalGal on 08/27/07 at 08:19 AM
Great sermon for a Monday morning. Thanks for the inspiration!
Posted by SMF on 08/27/07 at 08:25 AM
I bought my first house with little down in 1994 in Sacramento. Of course it was ‘only’ $115K and 3X income. It was a 3/2 house with 1297 sq.ft.
Funny thing, ended up finding comparables sales in Zillow this year, and the RE agent allowed me to overpay by at least $15K.
There WAS a time when little down could allow a qualified person to start on the road. But with the current prices, not right now.
If you have a street address, you can do an online parcel search.
You can also go to http://www.ci.irvine.ca.us/depts/cd/building_planning.asp
and click on the “ePermint and Case History” link to get the building permits for a particular street address.
Posted by Sue on 08/27/07 at 08:54 AM
U.S. Economy: Home Sales Drop, Inventories Increase (Update1)
Wouldn’t be the first place in Irvine with a parking problem. I remember going to this neighborhood a number of months back, and thinking it seemed kind of nice. Still too expensive right now for what you get, in my opinion.
Not sure if this is the case with Brio, but I always shudder when I see complexes where there clearly isn’t enough parking considering the parking spaces some units get for the amount of bedrooms they have (e.g. 2 bedrooms, 1-car garage with no second space). How can that not lead to a parking crunch, since it’s hard to imagine there are too many single people who can realistically afford payments on a 1-bedroom with these price tags? Other than these so-called “executives,” of course. And it’s not uncommon to see 4 students in 2 bedrooms, so why not 2 in 1 bedroom?
It reminds me of a listing I saw a few months back that had a photo showing some guest parking spaces with the caption: “plenty of guest parking.” You guessed it: all the parking spaces in the picture were full.
Posted by covered on 08/27/07 at 09:40 AM
Funny, I didn’t view IR’s comments as a sermon at all. No fire& brimstone, proselytizing or guilt trips. Just a very astute, reality based commentary on who and where we are and how we got here on our respective journeys. I do have a feeling he IS sharpening up his keyboard for some well placed eulogies, though:)
Posted by Sue on 08/27/07 at 09:41 AM
The next credit crunch?
As home loan market tightens, mounting credit card debt could spur new crisis
A Distorted View:Existing Home Sales.
http://www.thegreatloanblog.blogspot.com/
Posted by covered on 08/27/07 at 12:08 PM
Behind every great fortune there is a crime.
Honore de Balzac
French realist novelist (1799 - 1850)
Posted by Major Schadenfreude on 08/27/07 at 12:28 PM
I’m sure Joy Jenise Jackson has read that book - NOT!
Posted by $10,000 Tax Free on 08/27/07 at 12:52 PM
Was that $10,000 cash back taxable? Are there any more deals like this left? I want someone to pay me 10k to live in a house rent free while I slowly strip away all of the valuable pieces and ship them to Mexico. Would this be against the law?
There was an interesting article in the Northcounty Times about a real estate group that gutted an entire neighborhood in Murietta.
LOL Irvine renter. You are right on. Clearly you have touched on a sore subject for a lot of people.
I’ve read the bible and was *forced* to read several self-improvement books at work.
None of these tomes of wisdom mentioned granite countertops, german-import cars, silicone boobs, or outdoor kitchens. Happiness comes from within.
Posted by Mark on 08/27/07 at 01:22 PM
Your bible doesn’t mention cars, electricity, phones, etc. Are all those things “bad” too?
Posted by Joe on 08/27/07 at 01:24 PM
I never understand why stupid condo developers only include a 1 car garage for 2 bedroom units. It’s not like we live in a high density area with decent public trans where having 1 car per household is practical.
My in laws live a block away from a relatively large condo complex, and the people end up parking their POS junk cars all over the surrounding streets because there isn’t enough parking in the complex. So the street is full of eyesore cars that don’t even belong to the homeowners who live on the street. Ridiculous.
Posted by Stupid on 08/27/07 at 01:58 PM
What does that mean for CDO’s ?
You may charge a foreigner interest, but not a brother Israelite, so that the LORD your God may bless you in everything you put your hand to in the land you are entering to possess.
Deuteronomy 23:19-21 (in Context) Deuteronomy 23 (Whole Chapter)
Posted by lendingmaestro on 08/27/07 at 02:08 PM
OMG.
Posted by Joe on 08/27/07 at 02:30 PM
My Bible mentions fake boobs.
Posted by Major Schadenfreude on 08/27/07 at 02:34 PM
Joe,
Was that under a “Making Others Happy” paragraph?
Posted by Idaho_Spud on 08/27/07 at 02:44 PM
who said electricity is bad? I guarantee it won’t make you happy
Posted by Idaho_Spud on 08/27/07 at 02:48 PM
Mark, do you get your happiness from having electricity, phones (an iphone perhaps to show off to your co-workers), cars, and etc (whatever that is)?
If those are the source of your happiness and self-worth I pity you. A lot.
Check out the sales history. I hope something is wrong with Redfin’s data. Otherwise this one is funny as hell.
Posted by Mark on 08/27/07 at 03:21 PM
I guess, my point would be, that happiness is very personal. Discover what makes you happy and pursue it. I don’t fault others for finding happiness in places I wouldn’t venture.
And try not to worry about others’ sources of happiness. Why would you pity anyone? It’s unnecessary…
Posted by RW on 08/27/07 at 04:09 PM
Somebody confused Redfin by listing their timeshare on the MLS.
Posted by Anonymous on 08/27/07 at 04:30 PM
Ah. That makes sense.
Posted by Mark F. on 08/27/07 at 05:03 PM
After checking in to irvinehousingblog.com on a regular basis faithfully over the past few months, a tremor of self-aggrandizement came over me when I realized the IR had focused his daily diatribe on Brio, the development that I’ve called home for the past three years. My ego’s a bit crushed that our two-bedroom, one-bath, single-car garage carriage unit, currently on the marked for three months now, didn’t get profiled; at $415 - 429k for 917 sqare feet with a greenbelt view and plenty of sunshine, it’s the best deal going in the whole complex. Perhaps I should be thankful that it didn’t get mentioned, otherwise I’d have no cause for the plug. And yes, as a 2-car family with my wife’s car getting garage privileges, I’ve had to rely on a bizzare combination of subterfuge and luck to get to park close to my unit. But when I actually get the coveted space over my neighbors who struggle for the same location, it makes me overcome with glee every time.
Posted by Stupid on 08/27/07 at 05:03 PM
No electricity = no air condition = Stupid not happy
Posted by Sue on 08/27/07 at 05:19 PM
Subprime Borrowers More Apt to Pay Card Debt, Ignore Mortgages
Posted by Major Schadenfreude on 08/27/07 at 08:26 PM
Boo hoo. My keyboard is wet with tears…
Posted by Idaho_Spud on 08/27/07 at 10:08 PM
Mark,
Please read this and see if you consider it healthy (or even marginal) behavior. Do you feel that such behavior is in the best interest of greater society and our financial system? If it only affected those involved (like herpes) I would have no issue with it.
As one who is not partaking in this recent glut of a credit orgy and bankruptcy (I am not a “bitter renter” having been a homeowner for decades), such behavior seems not only irrational, but harmful - even to those not directly involved. At that point I draw the line on what is acceptable to acheive “personal happiness”.
I read somewhere that Neanderthal man would only travel a few miles for a slightly better piece of flint, but Homo Sapiens would travel hundreds of miles for a slightly better piece of flint.
And Homo Sapiens, with his technological advantage due to craving the latest and greatest things, wiped Neanderthal man out.
And that drive for the slightly better piece of flint (or cellphone, to make a modern analogy) remains.
Posted by OscarDeLaJolla on 08/28/07 at 10:15 AM
Umm…nobody in all of SoCal is reasonably priced. Just thought I would point that out.
Posted by Trooper on 08/28/07 at 10:41 AM
wow on that article. Didn’t this happen to Murrieta last time too (90’s) ?
Posted by effenbrio on 08/29/07 at 07:45 PM
I lived in Brio. De Nile flows straight through there on its way to Egypt.
2401 (1186sq ft) has been off and on the market for at least 12 months. It first hit the market at $589k.
Yes. Read that again. $589k.
It’s on its 5th listing.
The parking situation has been cleaned up due to new rules from the HOA. Check these rules VERY carefully before considering this tract—They went from anarchy straight to parking dictatorship. If you have frequent overnight guests, forget about living here unless you want to pay a couple hundred to assign them a *non-transferable* pass.
Posted by jwbrown77 on 08/27/07 at 09:57 AM
“I have to laugh at these asking prices with $999. I guess the seller still wants to squeeze every last dollar out of this sale. Maybe we will have houses priced like gasoline soon with the 9/10 of a cent added on.”
lol!
Posted by Mr Vincent on 08/27/07 at 07:02 AM
“Motivated Seller-Great location for UCI Student or Executive.”
What does an executive have in common with a student?
The listing descriptions are getting crazier and more desperate.
I would love to see pics of the inside for 2301 Ladrillo Aisle #54. Wells Fargo is asking 386k for 783 sq ft, fixer upper.
Are there still any suckers left who will pay that kind of money for these apartments?
——-
Posted by NanoWest on 08/27/07 at 07:41 AM
One of the ironic twists of this housing bubble is that the people that were willing to purchase with no idea of how to pay, will just as easily walk away. When they walk, they will blame everyone in the world and take no personal responsibility. What is really amazing, is the next time a stupid ponzi scheme gets started, these same people will be the first to jump in.
Posted by Live And Work In Irvine on 08/27/07 at 08:02 AM
Wow. You really have depth and understanding.
That sermon was exceptional. I printed it for my wife and she wants to tape it to the wall.
Posted by Patience on 08/27/07 at 08:04 AM
From what I remember this development has terrible parking, too.
Posted by lendingmaestro on 08/27/07 at 08:06 AM
These people are already taking losses and these properties are going for almost $400 per sq ft or more???
WOW.
Posted by CalGal on 08/27/07 at 08:19 AM
Great sermon for a Monday morning. Thanks for the inspiration!
Posted by SMF on 08/27/07 at 08:25 AM
I bought my first house with little down in 1994 in Sacramento. Of course it was ‘only’ $115K and 3X income. It was a 3/2 house with 1297 sq.ft.
Funny thing, ended up finding comparables sales in Zillow this year, and the RE agent allowed me to overpay by at least $15K.
There WAS a time when little down could allow a qualified person to start on the road. But with the current prices, not right now.
Posted by Stupid on 08/27/07 at 08:32 AM
Discovered City of Irvine GIS/Mapping website
http://www.ci.irvine.ca.us/depts/cd/gis/default.asp
If you have a street address, you can do an online parcel search.
You can also go to http://www.ci.irvine.ca.us/depts/cd/building_planning.asp
and click on the “ePermint and Case History” link to get the building permits for a particular street address.
Posted by Sue on 08/27/07 at 08:54 AM
U.S. Economy: Home Sales Drop, Inventories Increase (Update1)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aWpWs_zJPpMo&refer=home
Posted by caliguy2699 on 08/27/07 at 08:55 AM
Wouldn’t be the first place in Irvine with a parking problem. I remember going to this neighborhood a number of months back, and thinking it seemed kind of nice. Still too expensive right now for what you get, in my opinion.
Not sure if this is the case with Brio, but I always shudder when I see complexes where there clearly isn’t enough parking considering the parking spaces some units get for the amount of bedrooms they have (e.g. 2 bedrooms, 1-car garage with no second space). How can that not lead to a parking crunch, since it’s hard to imagine there are too many single people who can realistically afford payments on a 1-bedroom with these price tags? Other than these so-called “executives,” of course. And it’s not uncommon to see 4 students in 2 bedrooms, so why not 2 in 1 bedroom?
It reminds me of a listing I saw a few months back that had a photo showing some guest parking spaces with the caption: “plenty of guest parking.” You guessed it: all the parking spaces in the picture were full.
Posted by covered on 08/27/07 at 09:40 AM
Funny, I didn’t view IR’s comments as a sermon at all. No fire& brimstone, proselytizing or guilt trips. Just a very astute, reality based commentary on who and where we are and how we got here on our respective journeys. I do have a feeling he IS sharpening up his keyboard for some well placed eulogies, though:)
Posted by Sue on 08/27/07 at 09:41 AM
The next credit crunch?
As home loan market tightens, mounting credit card debt could spur new crisis
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-sun_crunch0826aug26,0,4784210.story?page=1
Posted by Sue on 08/27/07 at 10:24 AM
Prince George’s Fairy Tale Unravels For Woman at Center of Fraud Probe
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/25/AR2007082501362.html
Posted by Jeff on 08/27/07 at 11:06 AM
A Distorted View:Existing Home Sales.
http://www.thegreatloanblog.blogspot.com/
Posted by covered on 08/27/07 at 12:08 PM
Behind every great fortune there is a crime.
Honore de Balzac
French realist novelist (1799 - 1850)
Posted by Major Schadenfreude on 08/27/07 at 12:28 PM
I’m sure Joy Jenise Jackson has read that book - NOT!
Posted by $10,000 Tax Free on 08/27/07 at 12:52 PM
Was that $10,000 cash back taxable? Are there any more deals like this left? I want someone to pay me 10k to live in a house rent free while I slowly strip away all of the valuable pieces and ship them to Mexico. Would this be against the law?
There was an interesting article in the Northcounty Times about a real estate group that gutted an entire neighborhood in Murietta.
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/08/26/news/californian/21_20_158_25_07.txt
Posted by Idaho_Spud on 08/27/07 at 01:15 PM
LOL Irvine renter. You are right on. Clearly you have touched on a sore subject for a lot of people.
I’ve read the bible and was *forced* to read several self-improvement books at work.
None of these tomes of wisdom mentioned granite countertops, german-import cars, silicone boobs, or outdoor kitchens. Happiness comes from within.
Posted by Mark on 08/27/07 at 01:22 PM
Your bible doesn’t mention cars, electricity, phones, etc. Are all those things “bad” too?
Posted by Joe on 08/27/07 at 01:24 PM
I never understand why stupid condo developers only include a 1 car garage for 2 bedroom units. It’s not like we live in a high density area with decent public trans where having 1 car per household is practical.
My in laws live a block away from a relatively large condo complex, and the people end up parking their POS junk cars all over the surrounding streets because there isn’t enough parking in the complex. So the street is full of eyesore cars that don’t even belong to the homeowners who live on the street. Ridiculous.
Posted by Stupid on 08/27/07 at 01:58 PM
What does that mean for CDO’s
?
You may charge a foreigner interest, but not a brother Israelite, so that the LORD your God may bless you in everything you put your hand to in the land you are entering to possess.
Deuteronomy 23:19-21 (in Context) Deuteronomy 23 (Whole Chapter)
Posted by lendingmaestro on 08/27/07 at 02:08 PM
OMG.
Posted by Joe on 08/27/07 at 02:30 PM
My Bible mentions fake boobs.
Posted by Major Schadenfreude on 08/27/07 at 02:34 PM
Joe,
Was that under a “Making Others Happy” paragraph?
Posted by Idaho_Spud on 08/27/07 at 02:44 PM
who said electricity is bad? I guarantee it won’t make you happy
Posted by Idaho_Spud on 08/27/07 at 02:48 PM
Mark, do you get your happiness from having electricity, phones (an iphone perhaps to show off to your co-workers), cars, and etc (whatever that is)?
If those are the source of your happiness and self-worth I pity you. A lot.
Posted by Anonymous on 08/27/07 at 03:09 PM
Anyone want to try and explain this one:
http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=682391
Check out the sales history. I hope something is wrong with Redfin’s data. Otherwise this one is funny as hell.
Posted by Mark on 08/27/07 at 03:21 PM
I guess, my point would be, that happiness is very personal. Discover what makes you happy and pursue it. I don’t fault others for finding happiness in places I wouldn’t venture.
And try not to worry about others’ sources of happiness. Why would you pity anyone? It’s unnecessary…
Posted by RW on 08/27/07 at 04:09 PM
Somebody confused Redfin by listing their timeshare on the MLS.
Posted by Anonymous on 08/27/07 at 04:30 PM
Ah. That makes sense.
Posted by Mark F. on 08/27/07 at 05:03 PM
After checking in to irvinehousingblog.com on a regular basis faithfully over the past few months, a tremor of self-aggrandizement came over me when I realized the IR had focused his daily diatribe on Brio, the development that I’ve called home for the past three years. My ego’s a bit crushed that our two-bedroom, one-bath, single-car garage carriage unit, currently on the marked for three months now, didn’t get profiled; at $415 - 429k for 917 sqare feet with a greenbelt view and plenty of sunshine, it’s the best deal going in the whole complex. Perhaps I should be thankful that it didn’t get mentioned, otherwise I’d have no cause for the plug. And yes, as a 2-car family with my wife’s car getting garage privileges, I’ve had to rely on a bizzare combination of subterfuge and luck to get to park close to my unit. But when I actually get the coveted space over my neighbors who struggle for the same location, it makes me overcome with glee every time.
Posted by Stupid on 08/27/07 at 05:03 PM
No electricity = no air condition = Stupid not happy
Posted by Sue on 08/27/07 at 05:19 PM
Subprime Borrowers More Apt to Pay Card Debt, Ignore Mortgages
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aA5S1dNmg9SA
Posted by Sue on 08/27/07 at 05:30 PM
Federal Reserve Education
Foreclosure resources for Customers
http://www.federalreserveeducation.org/pfed/foreclosure/
Posted by IrvineRenter on 08/27/07 at 07:17 PM
Mark,
I’m sorry I missed your unit. If you are reasonably priced and not underwater, you passed under the IHB radar.
Good luck,
Posted by Sue on 08/27/07 at 07:29 PM
UPDATE Orange County mortgage casualties
http://www.ocregister.com/money/strong-layoffs-reported-1690495-edd-mortgage
Posted by Major Schadenfreude on 08/27/07 at 08:26 PM
Boo hoo. My keyboard is wet with tears…
Posted by Idaho_Spud on 08/27/07 at 10:08 PM
Mark,
Please read this and see if you consider it healthy (or even marginal) behavior. Do you feel that such behavior is in the best interest of greater society and our financial system? If it only affected those involved (like herpes) I would have no issue with it.
As one who is not partaking in this recent glut of a credit orgy and bankruptcy (I am not a “bitter renter” having been a homeowner for decades), such behavior seems not only irrational, but harmful - even to those not directly involved. At that point I draw the line on what is acceptable to acheive “personal happiness”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspicuous_consumption
Posted by Stupid on 08/27/07 at 11:02 PM
I read somewhere that Neanderthal man would only travel a few miles for a slightly better piece of flint, but Homo Sapiens would travel hundreds of miles for a slightly better piece of flint.
And Homo Sapiens, with his technological advantage due to craving the latest and greatest things, wiped Neanderthal man out.
And that drive for the slightly better piece of flint (or cellphone, to make a modern analogy) remains.
Posted by OscarDeLaJolla on 08/28/07 at 10:15 AM
Umm…nobody in all of SoCal is reasonably priced. Just thought I would point that out.
Posted by Trooper on 08/28/07 at 10:41 AM
wow on that article. Didn’t this happen to Murrieta last time too (90’s) ?
Posted by effenbrio on 08/29/07 at 07:45 PM
I lived in Brio. De Nile flows straight through there on its way to Egypt.
2401 (1186sq ft) has been off and on the market for at least 12 months. It first hit the market at $589k.
Yes. Read that again. $589k.
It’s on its 5th listing.
The parking situation has been cleaned up due to new rules from the HOA. Check these rules VERY carefully before considering this tract—They went from anarchy straight to parking dictatorship. If you have frequent overnight guests, forget about living here unless you want to pay a couple hundred to assign them a *non-transferable* pass.
Singles, hope your relationship is stable.